Sound Quality - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I would like to know how good is the aux quality?
It seems to have low dynamic range, horrible stage, compared to a 3GS, and max ~16bit/44.1khz.
Does android support flac 24/96?
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The test was done with royalginger, android 2.3 . Used built-in player, winamp, flac and mp3 with a very good 2.1 sound system. Compared with 3GS and good soundcard.
The results were strange. I used 1.1.2 ice glacier before and the quality was good with a subpar 2.0 system/decent soundcard and with stock earbud. When i switched to royalginger i noticed a loss of quality with earbud but i didnt bother. The loss was evident with aux.
For the moment i cant have access to the 2.1 system so i will test the roms at hand with the 2.0 setup.
m4a/acc at mytouch, flac 24/96 at PC:
Ice Glacier 1.1.6:
2.0setup- good.
RoyalGinger 1.6:
2.0setup- good.
RoyalGlacier 1.3:

It would be nice if an RMAA test could be conducted with this phone. I'd be all over it but I lack the proper hardware.

I'm running CM7 with PowerAmp as the player and the sound is atrocious in my car with a very nice/higher end JL system. My Nano sounded much better.

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Sound equalizer

Is there a way to custom set (equalizer) the sound of the media player ?
The default sound settings are quite dull........
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The default sound via the 3.5 jack is quite bad, but so far no media player has an equalizer and until there's one that can access the hardware directly, which probably means a better built in media player first, we're out of luck.
I don't get how they could have overlooked this so blatantly. I've read the mytouch fender LE is even worse, and that's being plugged as a media phone.
It is a glaring whole in the Android OS and SDK that is being worked on; according to CorePlayer, they are working closely with Google to get the SDK and Android OS up to snuff, and it sounds like Froyo will make some major leaps and bounds in media department, both audio and video.
Theres one pay app just look up EQ in the market.
But it sucks.
Super fantastic news about Coreplayer. Just readup a bit on twitter.
the milestone 2.0.1 update in europe included an audio equalizer which people are reporting to work quite well. anyone care to try and port it over?
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Super fantastic news about Coreplayer. Just readup a bit on twitter.
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That's a good news. We may finally have a serious media player on our N1.
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I'm changing my opinion of the sound quality of the headphone jack on the N1. I just discovered that my Westone earphones were in the process of failing and the lousy sound quality I thought was the fault of the N1 was really the earphones. With a new pair of Monster turbine earphones, I have to say the N1 sounds quite good now. There is still the need for an equalizer to tweek the highs, but I no longer consider the N1 a terrible music player.

[MISC] Desire Z as Audio player - very positive surprise

Just wanted to share my feelings about using Desire Z as audio player.
Before I got Desire Z, I had to buy Cowon iAudio 9 to get decent bass (thanks to very good custom multi-band equalizer on iAudio 9).
I used to use Shure SH530, wasn't happy with bass response.
I'm now happily using Hippo VB (Variable Base) earbuds ($79). Review of these is HERE (in short: "their bass is more or less as refined as the one coming from the $1150 UE11 – but the VB put less weight on midbass and provide more real sub-bass, so they win. Their midrange appears linear, without peaks and valleys, and it’s “lush” and “sweet” like the Shure SE530.")
So then I got HTC Desire Z, plugged my phones and used stock Music player and surprise, surprise - low deep base is there without even using any equalizer!
I then tried PowerAMP, have ONLY increased 30Hz band for even deeper sub-base (as these phones have response starting from 20Hz) and reslut is that I now tend to use Desire Z instead of Cowon iAudio9 player.
This means Desire Z is providing enough power to be able to drive my phones.
On a side note, my previous phones were not able to deliver such deep base without distortion or serious using of equalizer/amplification.
So one happy user here LOL
Update: stock Radio seem to produce nice bass too!
Seconded . I use the Desire Z with my Denon ACH-751s and the quality is very good.
This judgement is also backed by GSMArena who do indepth testing of Audio quality.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-review-535p5.php
haven't tried the audio output yet, but i started to wonder if the DZ has better or the same soundquality as the Htc Legend..? I was very surprised when i had my Legend recently.
Really stoaked with the desire z's audio reproduction, just for a quick test mainly to see if my bluetooth headphones were working with my desire z, so I tested them out and the sound quality on the stock music player with no equalizer blew me away. Especially as I was just using a cheap pair of bluetooth headphones, will try with my bose qc2s and my astro a40s for a comparason.
D3LTA9 said:
Really stoaked with the desire z's audio reproduction, just for a quick test mainly to see if my bluetooth headphones were working with my desire z, so I tested them out and the sound quality on the stock music player with no equalizer blew me away. Especially as I was just using a cheap pair of bluetooth headphones, will try with my bose qc2s and my astro a40s for a comparason.
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Astro a40! Niceee what game u been playing? Anything mlg related?
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Well this is my 1st post to this forum.. Got my Desire Z yesterday - been playing with it since that.
Overall it's very impressive phone after using Nokia for years...
But one really disturbing "feature" is the clicks & pops when using headphones. If I listen music and someone chats with me (e.g. Google Talk), the music is interrupted with loud bang/pop whatever you want to call it..
Is there a way to get rid of the loud pops and bangs when connecting headphone, setting volume (when no content is playing) etc...?
I'm not familiar with HTC audio HW internals, but maybe it could be fixed with an sw upgrade.. Who knows..
Seems that the headphone output is not "ground referred" as in Nokia&iPhone for example.
I'm using usually Bose QC3's as headphones, they are "active" so it might also worsen the pops...
Despite this one audio related "feature", I'm still impressed of the phone overall.

Poor Headphone Audio Quality on Desire HD

Hey everyone,
i know there have been a lot of threads about the poor audio quality of the speaker. While it is not perfect, i can live with the quality revolution HD brings.
But when i use my earphones/headphones, i always notice how bad the Desire HD performs when playing music. Even when i compare the quality to a cheap MP3-Player, it doesnt sound good.
Can someone explain why the quality is so bad and if there is any way to improve the audio quality?
My Ideas would be:
-Bluetooth Audio adapter (but then again it is wireless, can't really be better)
-get a micro-usb to 3.5mm adapter (wouldnt help probably)
Any Ideas?
well, the DHD isn't famous for it's audio quality... there is nothing you can do about that.
it's probably related to a cheap sound chip used in the dhd.
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Just how "bad" quality are you talking about? Currently I'm using Nokia BH-503 and I'm pretty much satisfied with it. Good bass, clarity and range. It may not be the best, but "good" enough.
well, i use it as my default music player as well and it doesnt perform miserably, but whenever i connect my 150$ earphones, i always feel underwhelmed.
The highs just don't perform well, they lack a certain clarity. They sound a bit like tin cans
strange. i have the best audio quality on headset of all mp3 player i ever had with my DHD. i am still astonished how decent it is.
all of my friends have confirmed this.
At least DHD is far better than cheap MP3 player. But from where I am, I can't judge directly your claim. But you could use person near you to judge it. Ask if the sounds are truly bad as you said. Better if you could find another DHD for comparison. If it is the same, it seems that you set your standards a bit too high. No offense.
Strange to see this thread^^ I think the audio quality of the dhd is superb. I've been using an iPod for the last years and the quality is about the same i guess in normal mode. But when i enable SRS its like another level. I hear details on my tracks that i didn't even knew where there before.
So i really can't give any complaints. But anyway about 80% of the music quality comes from your headphones. I'm using stage in ears from shure because I'm a musician, and those headphones are much better than the average 30 bucks ones.
well, i recently noticed this when listening to a sony MP3-Player. When Comparing it to an LG P990, i also found the quality to be a bit clearer on the LG.
The SRS Sound does make it a little punchier, but it doesn't really fix the sound quality in my opinion.
I installed Volume Ace which gives you full control of all volume settings and I also have an app called Equalizer installed which, yes allows you to set various profiles/presets of music including bass, reverb, spacializer, echo etc etc. My DHD has SUPERB sound with this. If you use the stock music app it even switches profiles automatically provided the mp3 has the metadata for genre of music etc. I use Mortplayer which is now available for Android and I used it on WinMob too. It is THE best music player imho. I also use the HTC bluetooth headset and the sound quality is equally good with rich bass etc etc.
I use Moboplayer for movies/videos and the sound is equally superb. I am not sure what problem your device might have?
i will give the equalizer app a try, will report back whether i am more satisfied with the sound then.
UPDATE: The sound does seem quite a bit better when i use the equlalizer, thanks for that!
Well just wait for the new HTC devices with integrated dre beats audio
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Well just wait for the new HTC devices with integrated dre beats audio
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Dre? As in the c...rapper? I refuse to have that Name associated with my phone. hehehehe
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i use a good AKG Headset and the sound is superb... on my DHD
I use Poweramp with these settings (iBeats headphones)
Equaliser preset: Techno (You can try Rock too, I dont listen to these but they offer clean bass and good highs)
Bass knob: About 40%
Treble knob: About 55%
Tone: Enabled
DHD: SRS Enhancement
Try it, its better than anything else I've seen on basically any other device.
I totally agree,
The HTC in comparison to different ipods and MP3 players is not in the same league.
Even the power is much lower on the HTC...
Currently i'm using iPod for my music (for the "real" music), along with the DHD for ...m.... calling ?
Gentlemen, lets not generalize. The DHD might not be on par with iPods/iPhones.
But that doesn't mean whole HTC is not on par. Example, my HD2 sounds better than my gf ipod, but that might be the music player (android ginger) tweaks.
Another example, on the world of smartphones, the olddy HTC Kaiser has one of the better speakerphones, i haven't seen nothing better (except some old nokias like the ngage 1st gen, yet this one usually would burn the speaker)
So, though the sound might not be that good, i rather have a phone that plays good sound, than a phone and a mp3 player. Honestly, most my musics are on FLAC, so any mp3 player would sound bad to me. No... i'm not a audophile. I don't have a better ear than anyother, but i can see difference between a 320kbps mp3 and any flac.
I have found that audio quality is very poor through the HTC supplied headset, but through my personal headphones really good, plus the ARHD ROM adds some volume and aswell to the sound.
peter9991 said:
Hey everyone,
i know there have been a lot of threads about the poor audio quality of the speaker. While it is not perfect, i can live with the quality revolution HD brings.
But when i use my earphones/headphones, i always notice how bad the Desire HD performs when playing music. Even when i compare the quality to a cheap MP3-Player, it doesnt sound good.
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I'm curious if you're using the stock ROM (that came with your phone) or a custom one (CyanogenMod, MIUI, etc.)
I'm on Miui.us ROM and my audio through headphones is quite clear, if rather loud.
I am using ARHD.
With the Beats Audio add-on it seems quite a lot better (the highs don't oversteer that much anymore).
My DHD performs quite correctly in the matter of sound !!
Check out the radio updates, roms and softwares
They can change a lot already

Audio Quality Over Jack?

Im curious to buying this phone to be able to have windows phone and android in one! I would like to know how the audio plays through the jack though in comparison to an ipod touch. Is it loud and good quality? Thanks guys!
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Im curious to buying this phone to be able to have windows phone and android in one! I would like to know how the audio plays through the jack though in comparison to an ipod touch. Is it loud and good quality? Thanks guys!
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As far as I know, the audio quality isn't affected by the headphone jack but by the quality of the MP3s and the headphones themselves? I've found listening to music to be louder with the standard HTC headphones than with the standard iHeadphones (that's probably what they're called anyway ) and I personally couldn't find a difference in sound quality. If you want the best experience possible I'd guess you'd have to buy the actual albums you want, have a higher class SD card and have the best possible headphones. A Beats audio ROM might help but I don't know how good that actually is for music which isn't bass heavy (if I'm not mistaken Beats is largely just a bass enhancer).
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As far as I know, the audio quality isn't affected by the headphone jack but by the quality of the MP3s and the headphones themselves? I've found listening to music to be louder with the standard HTC headphones than with the standard iHeadphones (that's probably what they're called anyway ) and I personally couldn't find a difference in sound quality. If you want the best experience possible I'd guess you'd have to buy the actual albums you want, have a higher class SD card and have the best possible headphones. A Beats audio ROM might help but I don't know how good that actually is for music which isn't bass heavy (if I'm not mistaken Beats is largely just a bass enhancer).
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It pretty much is a bass enhancer with some processing on higher frequencies. I have beats on my HP and i love it. But when it comes to the phone, i use Volume+ (Sound Boost) 1.8.1 i believe NOT the latest the latest doesnt have as much features as the older version
File format is the number one factor in sound quality. MP3s basically suck... and Apple's file format is not much better. So much audio information is lost due to compression that no matter how good the amp or headphones one uses, they do nothing to improve the inherent quality.
Always use .FLAC or .WAV for lossless and best sound possible. That said, Beats Audio is not much more than a gimmick. To hear the intention of the artist, one should listen to the music 'flat ' with no equalization at all. Otherwise, if you really like to enhance the bass, the just use the basic bass tone control on your favorite audio player. I recommend the Sennhieser Headphones with the best frequency response you can afford. I use Power Amp app on my X2 because it plays all audio files.
Speaking to the original question; the physical audio port (headphone jack) is the best quality save the HDMI port... unless someone finds a way to export audio from the USB port.
For super awesome audio files, get your music at www.hdtracks.com. I hope this helps.
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Audio SQ Stock vs CM10?

Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?
This is the big question for me since I own a pair of NuForce NE-700M and plan to upgrade to Yamaha EPH-100, and roughly 90% of my smartphone usage is just listening to music. GSMArena shows stock playing with enjoyably low THD (I know some of you aren't too fond of their review process, though).
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Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?
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Stock has workarounds for the cheap buds that come with the Oppo - but Dirac HD is unnecessary for decent headphones and in fact ruins the audio quality if used with good headphones. So if you use decent wired headphones you should not hear much difference if any. Some A2DP (stereo Bluetooth) devices have issues with 4.2 due to the new Bluetooth stack, however I can't reproduce this with any of my A2DP headsets.
I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....
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I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....
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No, DiracHD only works with cheap headphones - more specifically, *only with the cheap headphones included with the device* - it is an EQ preset that offsets the deficiencies of the OEM earbuds. Use it with anything that doesn't have the exact same frequency response and you correct for problems that aren't there - effectively creating new problems that didn't exist.
Effectively it's an audio form of RF predistortion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predistortion - Applying predistortion to anything with distortion characteristics different from what the predistortion algorithm was designed for results in increased distortion.
Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim
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Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim
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I got rid of my stock firmware before I had a chance to try the Dirac stuff, but it sounds like it's very similar to Beats Audio, where a lot of the lower spectrum and possibly some of the highs are boosted. This generally makes a more "fun" sound for the casual listener but a lot of more analytical listeners will feel like it ruins the sound, especially if they own earphones that already have their preferred sound signature.
So basically: If your earbuds share a similar signature to the Find 5 included buds, you'll appreciate Dirac HD's effects. Elsewise, if Dirac happens to shape your buds' signature into something you enjoy, then more power to it.
Meh. My NuForce NE-700Ms are already plenty V-shaped (my only complaint being that I have to run 4khz into the ground because it can be harsh. I still recommend them to you out there looking for a quality pair of IEMs at a decent price)
Only for information:
With the Stock Music App, which is not really bad you can switch between DIRAC, Dolby or turn every sound improvement off. But you must plug your headphone in otherwise you have in the speaker mode only a possibility to select Dolby or turn everything off..
So you can compare a little bit better how it works for you...

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