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Anyone With Root, Can Say For A a Fact That Nexus Is Not Underclocked?

Well? I would find out for myself, but I cannot buy nexus yet.
Also, does the keyboard have multitouch?

Nexus One scales the cpu frequency from 245MHz to 998MHz based on cpu load using the standard Linux cpufreq support. You don't actually need root access to see this, as the cpufreq status and stats are readable from userspace by anyone.
Of course most of the time the CPU is completely powered down (including much of the time when the screen is on)... otherwise battery life would be pretty bad...

Sounds a little like how the tegra works

swetland said:
Nexus One scales the cpu frequency from 245MHz to 998MHz based on cpu load using the standard Linux cpufreq support. You don't actually need root access to see this, as the cpufreq status and stats are readable from userspace by anyone.
Of course most of the time the CPU is completely powered down (including much of the time when the screen is on)... otherwise battery life would be pretty bad...
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this man wins, thread over... people need to stop asking...
you dont advertise 1ghz speeds and underclock without expecting a fat lawsuit and google isnt trying to make any enemies (no multitouch?) lol

x10 uses ondemand cpu scaling 245 - 998 mhz stock, do not use setcpu

just wanted to let everyone know this, as there are still plenty of threads out there that suggest setcpu, and it's a waste of time

Thanks dan, where you been stranger?
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so what does it mean? it's doing what setcpu does? what about battery and temperature profiles? what if i want to force the cpu to use a lower clock speed to conserve battery?

I never understood SetCPU myself. The CPU is only used when required, so creating all these settings likely does nothing.
I'd consider it for overclocking, if that was possible.

I was also informed that our phones should do this anyway but I was suspicious of how well it does, being on 1.6 and butchered by SE after all.. it made a good deal of difference before the update.
Trying it without the update now and we'll see how it goes. Completely removed it and power cycled. Will bump in a few days with my results.

I found android got extremely laggy on 1.6 with setcpu. and I use a temp/cpu widget to keep tabs on stock behavior, my cpu sits at 245 most of the time, except when I'm using the phone

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dan-htc-touch said:
I found android got extremely laggy on 1.6 with setcpu. and I use a temp/cpu widget to keep tabs on stock behavior, my cpu sits at 245 most of the time, except when I'm using the phone
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What widget do you use?
I took a quick look on the Market and AppBrain, and couldn't find anything to track/plot CPU clock to see what the phone's doing while in standby.
I do use SystemPanel, but it doesn't plot CPU clock over time, only usage.

Try advanced task manager it shows cpu speed...
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[email protected] said:
Try advanced task manager it shows cpu speed...
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I'm not looking for a way to see the speed. SystemPanel will do that. I'm looking for a plot that shows the cpu speed over time, so I can see how and when it changes.

saltorio said:
I'm not looking for a way to see the speed. SystemPanel will do that. I'm looking for a plot that shows the cpu speed over time, so I can see how and when it changes.
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Try Usage Timelines Free or seepu++ (not free and dev seems to have abandoned it)
Edit: sorry I see you want clock speed not usage. I have yet to find an app for that as well.
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so what is SetCPU doing then? draining the battery? or is it affecting the charging process?
and what about the app CoolS? its almost the same thing as SetCPU but the only thing you can do is slow the CPU down

You can use SetCPU to:
1. Overclock (but not on X10)
2. Underclock (you know you go somewhere for 2 days and forgot the charger at home)
3. Make profiles to lower CPU freq when temp is too high
For day by day use, i'm ok with android's ondemand scaling.

use android hackers apk. thereu can see theCPU over time...
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i use setcpu to underclock my X10 to 5xx mhz when the screen is off.
my batt usage is better, from 3-5% per hour to below 2%.

I've been using overclock widget to keep it to 998mhz to see if it would make a difference in quadrant. Recently i uninstalled it and i still get about the same benchmark score.

Overclocking with Jrummys?

I just downloaded Jrummy's Overclocker and i was wondering what are some settings for a safe overclock. im shooting for 1.2

gkallivrousis said:
I just downloaded Jrummy's Overclocker and i was wondering what are some settings for a safe overclock. im shooting for 1.2
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1.2 should be no problem although all phones are different. start with the low voltage at 1.1 make sure the phone is stable. a quick test is to open the browser and load a few pages. a GOOD test is to run quadrant. then just increase the speed until it locks up. pull the battery and set it down 1 or 2 speeds and thats your max stable overclock at that voltage. most people are able to run 1.2 or 1.3 with no issues. i can run at 1.3 with no issues. any higher and after a few days (or less respectively) my phone hangs. Also increasing voltage will yield higher clocks but will drain the battery faster. just play around if the phone locks up just pull the battery. also i would not play with the manual settings until you are familiar with the basic ones first.

I am most stable at 1.25ghz LV. Currently running GummyJAR2.5 with Blueberry Theme.
No issues. I would recomend installing AutoKiller. This is not same as Task Killer. It frees up memory. Same function as the one that comes with Jrummy Overclock but you can customize it more.

auto killer waste battery we have plenty of memory on our phones

so what do you recommend for a jrummy oc? i was thinkin 1.2 on lv

I can only get up to Low volt 1.15 otherwise. Once I click on anything higher i get a MAJOR hanging as soon as its done overclocking. pissed but guess thats just the point that all phones are different.

friguy3 said:
I can only get up to Low volt 1.15 otherwise. Once I click on anything higher i get a MAJOR hanging as soon as its done overclocking. pissed but guess thats just the point that all phones are different.
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yup...some people can run 1.4 with no problems...try upping the voltage a little

1loudsvt said:
auto killer waste battery we have plenty of memory on our phones
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I wasn't a believer until I installed it. My ram use to run low and some times made my DX run slow. Since installing the autokiller, my DX runs smoother, zippier and consistant. I have mine pre-set at extream. As for the battery, I don't notice any difference and I am semi heavy user. I been running Autokiller for a while.

Hey guys, I recommend using QuickClock Advanced for some real battery savings. It calculates the lowest stable vsel your cpu can handle and then you can overclock from there.
my settings
300mhz 15vsel
600mhz 30vsel
900mhz 45vsel
1200mhz 61vsel

I could never get over 1.1 using jrummy untill I changed the gov, use anything but "on demand" and I can get 1.4 all day. The stock settings work well using the "performance" gov but battery life can suffer if you get crazy. Performance keeps it running at top speed all the time. Hope this helps.
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Droid-Xer said:
Hey guys, I recommend using QuickClock Advanced for some real battery savings. It calculates the lowest stable vsel your cpu can handle and then you can overclock from there.
my settings
300mhz 15vsel
600mhz 30vsel
900mhz 45vsel
1200mhz 61vsel
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Ive used similar settings and worked fine on my phone running Rubix.

SetCPU vs. CMSettings Built-in CPU manager

For those of you on CM7 (preferably RC2 or later nightlies), are you using SetCPU or the built in CMSettings CPU manager? Which is giving you better performance/battery life?
I can't help but think that the built in CM Settings CPU tuner is going to be conflicting with my SetCPU profiles.
Been using nightlies since #30 or so, and I currently run SetCPU with a normal profile, a screen off profile, and a profile for <10% battery and haven't touched CMSettings' CPU manager.
I'm contemplating just uninstalling SetCPU for a day or two and seeing what a 1017max / 245min Ondemand or Powersave governor via CMSettings ends up doing to my battery life considering there will be no screen off profile.
Any thoughts?

I dumped setCPU after a lot of testing (and even bought it on market)
I'm finding I'm much happier using inbuilt CPU settings. I think battery life is the same but performance is better due to the fact that SetCPU would sometimes get stuck in my screen-off profile when turned on causing the phone to be really slow.
I recomend uninstalling setCPU, set your ONDEMAND governor with ~1Ghz and run it... You'll find your battery about the same but much less hassle.

I have yet to try that, I somewhat feel obligated to use SetCPU since I purchased it lol. But it probably won't be the last time I waste money at the market.

Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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Utorrent76 said:
Neither. CPU tuner works best for me.
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its the same thing :facepalm:
Try the inbuilt one... I think its way easier

I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?

Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.

I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
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DJAeroX26 said:
I say setCPU cuz as battery gets lower... I have my CPU speed lower also. Basically, 15% battery lasts me forever :] lol
Sent from my T-Mobile G2
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Definitely. This is the one thing I like about SetCPU is having the 10% and 5% profiles so that I can get the last few % to last forever if I need it. Although in normal day-to-day use I'm never pushing it below 20%.

ScooterG said:
Whatever you tell SetCPU to do, you'll see the same settings mirrored in the CM settings.
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Yea I see this, as far as the governor changing etc.. This is why I'm wondering if it would be easier on my phone to just run only the CM Settings one.
I notice that every 5th or so time I unlock the phone, there is an obvious lag switching from the screen off profile, and my unlock sliders jitter around and it takes 4-5 tries to unlock the phone. I think this is probably partially due to both settings switching over trying to change.
I think I might try backing up and uninstalling SetCPU for tomorrow to see how it goes.

colonelcack said:
I've been wondering about this too. I don't quite understand how it works. Can I just set the frequency higher till a certain point without changing the voltage and get the same battery life?
What's the best way of doing this? Just change the clock speed or do I need to change something else or update the kernel?
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I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.

redpoint73 said:
I've read on here that overclocking the Vision's CPU up to 1 GHz requires no over-volting, and in theory should not affect battery life (but not sure exactly where that information originates from). But there has been lots of debate on these forums on whether the SetCPU app helps or hurts battery life depending on screen-off profiles (underclocking to save battery) or its constant polling of the CPU clock (possibly killing the battery faster).
A kernel that supports overclocking is already part of the CM ROM. If you are on CM, you can just adjust the clock speed under Settings>CM Settings>Performance>CPU settings. Or set the CPU clock using an app like SetCPU. Choosing one method over the other is what is being asked/debated here. If you are on the stock ROM, you need to be rooted, flash a custom kernel that supports overclocking, then install an app such as SetCPU or CPU Tuner to set the CPU clock to your liking.
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I'm not sure about CM's kernel with the over-volting but I do know that Pershoots kernel can be overclocked to 979mhz without over-volting (Pershoot told me himself).

At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted

Daughain said:
At 1.8Ghz, I find the temp settings in SetCPU very useful.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted
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Well obviously.... But why the hell would you ever need to be running at 1.8ghz? The fact that you are always using a temp-specific profile method should show you that consistent 1.8ghz isn't good for the phone...

Okay so I uninstalled SetCPU last night and I'm going to run just the CM Settings CPU manager all day to see how it goes. Running like this:
ONDEMAND governor
Min CPU: 245 mhz
Max CPU: 1017 mhz
On nightly #19 also.
Okay so its midnight almost, and I'm at 13hrs unplugged and 52% battery still. Pretty general/light use, phone is just as snappy and the lack of a screen off profile doesn't seem to effect battery at all. Liking it so far! very interesting to see the screen off profile not mattering much.

SetCPU for me. I like to have a temperature and charging profile, to prevent the phone from overheating. Even at 1ghz the possibility exists, nice to have a backup incase.

I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
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tackleberry said:
I'm thinking set cpu conflicting with the cm built in caused my ****ty running problems. I have not used setcpu since and been good so far
Sent from prison
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With multiple tries... If you change the settings on one, it cancels the settings on the other... Maybe it's because you had set on boot enabled on both?

im going to run the CM tuner and uninstall Setcpu and see how it runs. i never thought about this but i do get that lag when i turn my screen on sometimes. im gonna miss having the profiles but ill see how it runs over the coarse of a couple days.

SetCPU app and it's effectiveness? Syndicate Frozen ROM

Hey there, I just a few days ago rooted and flashed the Syndicate Frozen rom and am not getting such good battery life...
I was wondering how big of a difference SetCpu makes on battery life/performance in general? With moderate/heavy use (internet browsing, facebook, email, txt messaging) how much should it improve battery life? am getting around 10hours at the moment with moderately light use... Is there any free alternative app that runs comparatively well?
I guess what I'm really asking is: is it worth it to buy setcpu, and will it make a dramatic difference on my battery life? This Rom is supposed to improve battery life, and I think I read is overclocked to 1.2... Will setcpu let me set this underclocked to 1,0 and then like 800 with screen off, 600 idle? Am new to the android thing [have had my EPIC only around 2 weeks today]
Thanks for any help!

Overclock widget does pretty much the same thing, and you're going to want to set something like
20mhz min 1 or 1.2ghz max
Then 100mhz min 400mhz max for screen off.

You can set the speed to.anything you want. If you want battery to be the best then.set it to 100/1000 on demand. If you emwant performance then 100/1200. Also I don't set profiles cause I was reading somewhere that they aren't good to use on any galaxy phone.
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http://www.setcpu.com/
Nice info read up on it and yes you can set it anyway you want like stated above. I bought mine from the market to support the dev for the hard work involved in making setcpu, dont know if you know but it is free for xda members just search for setcpu. It is only $2.00 well worth the price so please support the dev if you can.

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Overclock widget does pretty much the same thing, and you're going to want to set something like
20mhz min 1 or 1.2ghz max
Then 100mhz min 400mhz max for screen off.
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20Mhz would freeze the phone. :O
I personally like running it @ 100 Mhz when screen is off and 1Ghz when screen is on.

Overstew said:
20Mhz would freeze the phone. :O.......
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I am pretty sure XOBX meant 200, cause your right 20 is pretty much crawling...

Yep, I meant 200, the damn autocorrect kept changing mhz to Hz and I must've clicked backspace one too many times.

Thanks, so it would make a big difference in battery life?
Sent from my EPIC 4G FROZEN and Syndicated

androikid said:
Thanks, so it would make a big difference in battery life?
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Don't expect it to magically give you another 4 hours up time. 1 extra hour would be high hopes.

I use SetCPU with the CPU set to 200/1000 and ondemand, and the battery life has improved GREATLY, well worth the $2 to support the Dev, IMO, even though XDA members get it free.

I've abandoned SetCPU and uninstalled it. Unnecessary consumption of system resources.
Same with any other user-space app/widget to control CPU speed scaling.
In the Bonsai ROM, the exact same capability, sans the profiles which I (and most people) don't use anyway, can be achieved by setting clock range and governor in /etc/init.d/24-cpufreq script. I expect that all the other OC kernels, if not every custom kernel, has a similar way to set CPU clock governor.

I have mine set to 100/1200 on demand, and it works well for the demands I put on it. Way low consumption at idle, but when I need something it instantly responds.
I routinely get 16-18 hours off the charger, and put it back on the charger with sometimes as much as 40% remaining, but as always YMMV. A lot of it has to do with the ROM, but I'd say that CPU scaling has realized a tangible gain for me.

dwallersv said:
I've abandoned SetCPU and uninstalled it. Unnecessary consumption of system resources.
Same with any other user-space app/widget to control CPU speed scaling.
In the Bonsai ROM, the exact same capability, sans the profiles which I (and most people) don't use anyway, can be achieved by setting clock range and governor in /etc/init.d/24-cpufreq script. I expect that all the other OC kernels, if not every custom kernel, has a similar way to set CPU clock governor.
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Talking about Bonsai ROM tweaks on a Syndicate thread would be like me talking about BMW mods on a Honda forum. Either way, I looked around in the system folders and I can't find the 24-cpu file you're talking about. I upgraded yestereday from the 2.1 SyndicateROM to this, and for the first few hours, the ROM itself was definately quicker...I don't know if that's just because I came from 2.1 to 2.2, not to mention all the other 2.2 tweaks. After a few hours, I completely forgot that I could overclock this to 1.2Ghz. Installing SetCPU and bumping it to 1.2Ghz felt like just another jump. System resource consumption aside, it makes the phone all that much quicker while going between screen, apps list, closing apps, etc.
I could care less about battery life because I've learned to always have a charger around me since my days of the Moment, of hell, even my Treo's. I want fast, SetCPU is something I can see the difference in just from turning it on and off and seeing the differences.