Hey all. I am currently an android user looking into trading for a focus.
Problem is, the phone had WP7 chevron run on it and now has the nodo update.
My question is; since MS said no more updating for phones with chevron run on them, can I remove or revert to a non chevron installed state? From what I have read here, nodo "breaks" chevron, does that mean I can install future updates?
I just want to make sure I dont trade for a crippled phone...
I got the Samsung update after the NODO. Mine was Chevron 7 updated for NODO.
Where did you get the Samsung update? How did you apply it?
Also, is there a way to flash the original OEM firmware to get a "stock" phone?
Waiting to see
I used Chevron on my Focus so I could debrand it and used the timing trick to get NoDo myself, so after the MS release, I spent a while poking around online. As near as I can tell, what MS was warning against was the use of the chevron updater tool, not the original unlocker. MS had already said NoDo would basically "fix" the original chevron hack, so, I think they had that covered. If it was just an unlocked phone that got the update naturally through Zune (even if by trickery), it should be within what they expected. But, the updater apparently forced the NoDo update using some other function on the phone, and that seems to be where the worry is coming from.
But, in the end, if you don;t have a Zune backup from before the update (mine didn't successfully keep them, so, no rolling back for me) the only thing any of us can do is wait for either the next release and see what happens, or for someone to figure out how to get a rom. So far, I'm expecting to see the update first, but, you never know.
I am new to WP7 and would hate to get a crippled phone. Thank you both for your info.
I used the chevron ulocker. It ran in a DOS command window. It did the pre NODO, then it did the NODO. A few days later, I connected it to ZUNE and it announced there was a Sansung update. It went fine.
1.Chevron actually will not affect ur update. What MS said was using Chevron Updater MIGHT prevent you from further update, but what actually happened is that people used Chevron Updater still got Samsung Firmware update.
2.Get rid of Chevron unlock, is easy, just do a factory reset.
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1.Chevron actually will not affect ur update. What MS said was using Chevron Updater MIGHT prevent you from further update, but what actually happened is that people used Chevron Updater still got Samsung Firmware update.
2.Get rid of Chevron unlock, is easy, just do a factory reset.
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Pretty much what this guy said. I did the NODO timing update on my debranded Focus. Samsung update wouldn't show up in Zune until I did a Factory Reset.
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My phone currently updating to version 7008 - needs update to Zune too which is downloading first.
Was on 7004.
Will let you know what happens!
I can't see any changes...
Also no saving of the changes you make in Camera or so on...
Is this the update before March Update!?
Yeah, this is just an update to pave the way for future updates. You'll find nothing new here.
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Yeah, this is just an update to pave the way for future updates. You'll find nothing new here.
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Is the Camera any better...? could be into the realms of imagination here but took a photo and it seemed clearer than previous efforts on standard settings. Phone also 'seems' a little zippier.
Not totally sure so guess things aren't that different.
Backup worked nicely though.
Mine is in the process of updating. The backup process takes a while.
I wonder if we can use someone elses backup to restore a phone? I only ask because I flashed my UK T-Mobile device with the unbranded Samsung one because it was said that it fixed Bluetooth problems. However, it has had no effect, and now I can't take my phone back to T-Mo because it's not running the original firmware. If I can get it back to UK spec, then I can take it back to a shop and swap it for a (hopefully) working one...
Done. It is only a preparatory update for the actual update containing copy and paste, improvements to Windows Phone Marketplace et.al. Ergo, it doesn't contain any new functionality and won't remove or hinder any installed jailbreak functionality.
Yup, more playing, definitely no changes I can find...camera taking a better photo just happened to be a picture in better light.
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. The phone evenually rebooted and Zune reported the following:
RESTORATION ERROR
An error prevented the restoration of your phone to its previous version. Your phone cant be used in its present condition and there are no restore points for it on this computer. Thephone might restart and return to normal if you disconnect it. For further assistance, contact your mobile operator.
ERROR CODE C101002E
Thanks Microsoft, that's a really helpful message. NOT.
I have manually updated to the latest Zune, rebooted my PC, rebooted my phone, and I get the same thing every time.
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. The phone evenually rebooted and Zune reported the following:
RESTORATION ERROR
An error prevented the restoration of your phone to its previous version. Your phone cant be used in its present condition and there are no restore points for it on this computer. Thephone might restart and return to normal if you disconnect it. For further assistance, contact your mobile operator.
ERROR CODE C101002E
Sorry for that. I was afraid of this happening to me when the update stalled at the 7th step
Thanks Microsoft, that's a really helpful message. NOT.
I have manually updated to the latest Zune, rebooted my PC, rebooted my phone, and I get the same thing every time.
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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Sorry about that. I was afraid of this happening to me, after the update stalled for an hour at the 7th step, so I disconnected. Luckily nothing happened to my device. But apparently several Omnia 7 are experiencing this.
Sort it out, MS.
First things first. I was updated Zune to the recent version, because I was curious it will resolve a problem with login user on one of my computers. One (Windows Vista) works fine, but another one, Windows 7 (both 32-bits versions) works fine with Zune + Market.
Silent Shark said:
I wonder if we can use someone elses backup to restore a phone? I only ask because I flashed my UK T-Mobile device with the unbranded Samsung one because it was said that it fixed Bluetooth problems. However, it has had no effect, and now I can't take my phone back to T-Mo because it's not running the original firmware. If I can get it back to UK spec, then I can take it back to a shop and swap it for a (hopefully) working one...
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I've done the same. I have (branded) T-Mobile UK phone and decided update to unbranded one. I choose version I8700XENJK1 (but I tried another one before) - for me, one difference is language Dutch / Belgium if I remember correctly.
I've read this thread and I was wondering if my phone will find update... I had no information about this.
I return home, connect Omnia to computer and update process start immediately. I had no problem with update at all. Phone during update reboots twice (or more) and it looks stable. I haven't noticed any changes or improvements... maybe it's working a little bit faster, but maybe it's a auto-suggestion.
Loconinja said:
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. (...)
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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Sorry for that mate. I really had not problem with update.
Loconinja said:
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. The phone evenually rebooted and Zune reported the following:
RESTORATION ERROR
An error prevented the restoration of your phone to its previous version. Your phone cant be used in its present condition and there are no restore points for it on this computer. Thephone might restart and return to normal if you disconnect it. For further assistance, contact your mobile operator.
ERROR CODE C101002E
Thanks Microsoft, that's a really helpful message. NOT.
I have manually updated to the latest Zune, rebooted my PC, rebooted my phone, and I get the same thing every time.
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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have you tried taking back battery and then reboot again?
http://twitter.com/#!/WinPhoneSupport
hard-reset Focus, should be similar to omnia 7
http://www.technipages.com/samsung-focus-hard-reset-using-hardware-keys.html
Update error
801012DD Error code - we couldnt create a backup of your phone
Help !!!!!
Have you got samsung tools installed?
I have tried twice to install the update. Both times I got stuck at 7 or of 100 with 100%.
The only thing I have done my phone is to unlock it with chevron.
Altough I did have it in flight mode at the time to prevent relocking.
Do you think that would have affected anything?
Still nothing showing up for me yet. Those who got the mini update does your 3 button combo into download mode now work if you had a phone that didnt let it happen before?
Lordao
lordao said:
Still nothing showing up for me yet. Those who got the mini update does your 3 button combo into download mode now work if you had a phone that didnt let it happen before?
Lordao
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Three button combo now gives me the rather scary option to Format or Cancel. I thought Cancel would be the way to go....
Successful Updaters: Please post your Firmware revisions
For those who have managed to get the update installed without error, can you please post here your firmware revisions. We may be able to work out which models are affected by the issue.
There are rumours that this update only affects firmware versions JI9 and JJ4 while the JK1 firmware is unaffected.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-phone-7-update-bricking-some-samsung-omnia-handsets/11501
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Three button combo now gives me the rather scary option to Format or Cancel. I thought Cancel would be the way to go....
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Are you saying the Download Mode is no longer accessible after updating?
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For those who have managed to get the update installed without error, can you please post here your firmware revisions. We may be able to work out which models are affected by the issue.
There are rumours that this update only affects firmware versions JI9 and JJ4 while the JK1 firmware is unaffected.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-phone-7-update-bricking-some-samsung-omnia-handsets/11501
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How can I check which firmware revision I am using?
I thought I'd post here and make it easier for all LG QUANTUM users.
http://www.wpcentral.com/get-nodo-now-debranding-your-lg-phone
Just tried, worked smoothly.
When you get to the following step:
Input SUB_PATH: \System\Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo|
Input without the first "\"
Enjoy!
how's about the No-Do?
I heard it's out yesterday
just updated to 7008 after that it says that is the latest update
guess have to wait ...
Confirmed, works. Thank you very much!
-Gus
Twitter: @gguuss
In my country, there are someone selling a quantum with nodo update, he said that it's leaked from technician. So we can keep our hope
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In my country, there are someone selling a quantum with nodo update, he said that it's leaked from technician. So we can keep our hope
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Interesting. I'll research this.
Thanks.
I did the registry change last night and got 7008.
Same thing today... still 7008.
I was ATT-US before.
The registry key value doesn't change post-7008 update FYI.
7008 does fix the Markeplace hanging bug that makes you reboot. So there's some value in doing the update.
So, I guess we wait for NoDo. Since the table of carriers released by Microsoft says that AT&T is "Testing" for both updates for all their devices, perhaps - and this is a theory - perhaps it means that Microsoft is rolling the update to IMEI number groupings or something.
If anything changes, post about it!
Got it working, thanks!
no need to wait
follow the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012189 thread to get the NoDo update, it works great, but when u change over and debrand, change it from space to 000-88, then follow the instructions in the thread i posted. works like a charm. my magic number was 45 seconds and an onscreen timer is a big help.
I'm on LG Quantum - ATT, US, and now running 7.0.7390.0
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follow the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012189 thread to get the NoDo update, it works great, but when u change over and debrand, change it from space to 000-88, then follow the instructions in the thread i posted. works like a charm. my magic number was 45 seconds and an onscreen timer is a big help.
I'm on LG Quantum - ATT, US, and now running 7.0.7390.0
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thank you very much,
finally I can taste the joy of NoDo on my Quantum
Has anyone updated their Quantum to NoDo, and then rolled back using the ROM in the development forum? I'm waiting to update until ATT pushes just in case there is ATT/LG fixes included, but if I can rollback to a clean ATT ROM of 7004, I'll try the Nodo update now.
Thanks, Carini
I can't seem to get it to work for my Quantum. Edited the registry to 000-88, disconnected data, checked for update/turned comp internet off... nothin'. Zune either hangs if I disconnect too early, or it says my phone is already updated. I barely have enough time to disconnect my comp's WLAN before it finishes checking
So I never saw a response to my post about rolling back to 7004, but I decided to update to Nodo anyways
All I did was change my phone to 000-80 to get the update(I think). I first tried it at work, turned off the data/wifi on the phone, looked for update in Zune, disabled my NIC after 3 seconds. It gave an error about not contacting the server. I then tried to look for an update again this time not disabling my NIC, and it gave the same error. Tired it a couple more times just in case.
I assumed the update server was blocked by the proxy at work. When I got home, I plugged my phone in Zune, it immediately came back and said 7008 was available, and then after that installed Nodo was available.
I'm not sure if what I did at work caused me to get the update a few hours later, but when I was at home, I didn't have to do any tricks at all. Still wondering about using the ROM to rollback to 7004, if anyone tries it, let me know how it goes.
Got NoDo today with 'unbranded' Quantum
Hi... just wanted to let people know that I received the NoDo update today via Zune, using the 'unbrand' registry hack described here.
Took about 15 mins, went very smoothly.
I have the focus in USA w att. I followed all instructions and was able to get the nodo update, yay.however i can't side load apps. When i launch samsung tools it said to uninstall. It seems to relocked. Prior to installing nodo, I did use Samsung tools and checked prevent relock. I noticed after reseting it relock was unchecked.however noticed it was still unlocked hence the nodo update. I tried to run chevron again no luck. I guess I have to start all over again? Is anyone experiencing relock issues after nodo? Can someone help out bc I did use Samsung tools to try to prevent it from unlocking. Thanks in advance.
Chris
I'm stuck in the same boat. At some point after installing Nodo it relocked and now I'm stuck without being able to sideload. I guess that was the inherent risk of doing this update, anyway.
Did you guys use SamsungTools to prevent re-locking before updating?
I luckily have a dev account so I haven't tried to sideload since updating, but I can always unlock it again anyway.
If I recall (based on previous conversations that the guy who put out Chevron officially stated) Microsoft has closed the loop on the tool and essentially "fixed" the hole in the system. As Nodo rolls we're all kind back to step one... now that the guy that did Chevron has kind of stepped away from supporting it we'll need some smart people to put together a Chevron v2...
Tonight, I used Chevron to unlock my AT&T branded Samsung Focus, and then used a registry hack to 'unbrand' my phone. I then proceeded to install both updates.
My question is, if I use the 'Reset Phone' option in Settings, when the reset is finished, will it have NoDo software, or pre-NoDo software?
Thanks!
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I realize the phone would no longer be Chevron unlocked after the reset.
No. It will stuck at the whatever firmware you have last. However, you should be able to restore to a backup from Zune when you did the NoDo update.
im currently in 7004 and unlocked my focus and installed samsung tools, i ckeched the Prevent relock and would like to update, will NoDo itself relock my phone or will Zune sync relock? since im using the SamsungTool can i now update to NoDo 7008 then 7390
The steps are located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101344
The only thing I had changed is that I could not use AdvancedConfig.1.2.0.0.beta.xap for whatever reason, I had to download the Samsung Tools which are located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924497&page=12
I suggest getting the updated tool that 4epec4yp posted because it will tell you when you have the registry settings changed to prevent it from re-locking.
Honestly it really is as easy as:
- Flashing the original ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131022)
- Use ChevronWP7 to unlock
- Install Samsung Tools (above) and set to prevent re-lock on update
- Update to NoDo
The hardest part for me was unlocking with ChevronWP7, for me I just had to disconnect my computer from the internet and put my phone in the windows market and that did it for me, not saying it will work for you.
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im currently in 7004 and unlocked my focus and installed samsung tools, i ckeched the Prevent relock and would like to update, will NoDo itself relock my phone or will Zune sync relock? since im using the SamsungTool can i now update to NoDo 7008 then 7390
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You can update safely. I did the same as you plus unbranding (clear ATT-US) and now on NoDo, unlocked.
You can check if "prevent relock" works by syncing in another computer (fully, not Guest) and then going back to the comp you unlocked to check Re-Lock with Chevron. That's how I tested mine. If you sync to another comp and don't do the steps to "prevent relock" before that, Zune will lock your phone on the new computer sync, and when you check on the original comp with Chevron, you will see "Unlock" instead of "Re-Lock".