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Still a buggy phone!!

The Nexus S is quite possibly the best but most frustrating phone I've ever had. I love the hardware and the android OS. I still get random reboots, sometimes sms notifications never show up, and sometimes when I get a phone call the phone becomes unresponsive.
I've been using the latest NSCollab rom for several versions and have never over/under clocked. I clear the dalvik cache after every update and clear data/restore with titanium backup whenever necessary.
I'll feel like I've been doing everything correctly, yet I'm still left with a phone that gives me a lot of grief. What's the problem here? How can I fix this? This is extremely frustrating with no obvious solution.

I had a lot of problems with the nexus s... Now i have a galaxy sii, but i still have the nexus. Using the nscollab, i had a looooot of problems, now the phone are with the stock 2.3.4, in my tests, everything is fine. I will sell it now.
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I don't know what kernel that rom uses but that and settings on voltages make the whole difference in stability. Something like stock rom with stock kernel or cm7 with stock or netatchys kernel are always good choices and will give you stability.
Just IMHO
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mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]

Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.

glasslung said:
That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.
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The Oxygen ROM is very stable aswell.

i tried several roms, but after all i came back to stock, it is stable and fast.. I do miss many features from cm7, but i guess i can live without it.
currently i'm trying to find a kernel with a battery life as good as stock one... i really miss bln ...

All I'm saying look into your voltage settings. Each phone will work different and you have to play with adjusting them. It also takes some time and patience.
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No matter what rom I use I end up going back to stock. I don't even think the net kernel is good enough.

glasslung said:
mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]
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I will sell it in brazil, where i live, i think 1000 reais, i dont know yet.
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Vandam500 said:
Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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no ROM I've tried has ever compared to stock, especially 2.3.4, when it comes to stability.
I tried Many ROMs but all before 2.3.4 (end of April?) and none was able to run for more than a few days without some kind of reboot/bootloop etc.
2.3.4 has been running flawlessly ever since.
Current uptime is like 1100+ hrs and that too cause i had to remove battery to change SIM card.

Hi,
I have installed NSCollab 1.0.35 on a week and have not problems on my Nexus S.

To resume, i had some endless bootloop and a lot of reboot on long calls.
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My 2 cents:
I'm on NSCollab 1.0.34, Netharky 1.3.4, KB3, OV to 1.2 Ghz, UV with protonvoltage. Gingerbread 2.3.4
I find this combo much faster than the stock one, smooth and pretty stable. Actually I have some reboots when I stress a lot my device, but they are rare.
So I don't want to renounce to Cyanogen features as the stock rom was really slow IMHO and I will give a try to NSCollab 1.0.35 very soon!
No problems in answering, good radio performance, faster than light (quadrant score: 3600) !! I can survive with a couple of reboot in a week!!

Too much porn?
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Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.

Using the stock, all is fine..
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lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.
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How does oxygen rom compare to oxygen rom with james bond kernel? I installed the oxygen rom last night and have had no problems so far. Time will tell how it holds up in the long run.

lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
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Yeah... if it wasn't for that crap you would have **** for your ROM.
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Which rom would you recommend?

I'm currently running CM7, I haven't tried many different roms with this phone, the others I had on my phone at least(besides CM7) were Froyo(stock/rooted) and rooted GB. What other custom roms would be good for me to try, for example, if I want to keep hdmi functionality and 720p recording etc. Is there an AOSP rom where I can keep that functionality?

Liberty .9 is pretty smooth and has the HDMI and 720 p recording down, as well as being very customizable (liberty customizer prompts at first boot to choose which features asop and blur you wish to have).
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I'm currently running DarslideX. It's a GB based prerooted rom. Has hdmi support, as do most GB builds. Been on it about 2weeks now, very stable, some blur, most bloat removed. There are a couple people making custom themes, sliders, etc for it. You can find it over at mdw.
My DroidX Thrives on the DarkSlide!!

I've had liberty and apex and the rooted leaked gingerbread but I have been happiest with cyanogenmod. Just waiting for HDMI.
DX+CM7

Thanks for the responses. I did try Apex, then I installed MIUI.

I am in the same boat. Looking for another GB rom until cm7 is stable.

g8rgrad2k said:
I am in the same boat. Looking for another GB rom until cm7 is stable.
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Cm7 is very stable. I update with the nightly every day. I do have to flash the camera fix to make YouTube work and I also flash the dx2 sound pack from team black hat app although they took it off the app. Wish there was a good HDMI fix already but that's the only thing that would really make cm7 any better for me.
DX+CM7

I'm currently using MIUI and besides the questionable battery life, I love it. My phone feels completely different, in a good way. It's also very smooth and haven't run into any problems yet.

I've been using Liberty v0.9 since it came out. Very smooth, customization is there, everything works... Best rom I've used. Had a problem the first time I loaded it. Re-downloaded it and data wipe fixed it. Liberty toolbox is just as good as team blackhat app.

I'm running Liquid now, i looked at Darkslide X, my phone isn't activated yet, and wanted to know if i have to switch back to stock to get it activated(i may flash to a local company, not Verizon). I might try Liberty.

Maximaniac said:
I'm currently using MIUI and besides the questionable battery life, I love it. My phone feels completely different, in a good way. It's also very smooth and haven't run into any problems yet.
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Agreed 100% MIUI so far has been absolutely wonderful. I would agree though about the battery life issue. Prior to MIUI I was running an early leaked build of Froyo, FroyoDynamite, with SetCPU active on stock kernel I was getting around 2 days of battery life. With MIUI I'm lucky to get a full day.
But everything is super smooth, and it is absolutely beautiful, and the ability to change themes on the fly is amazing. I would agree, it's like a brand new phone to me again.

So is it worth it going from liberty 2.01 to liberty gb .9? I've been holding off because I finally got my dx to run nice with minimal random reboots. I'd love to be on 2.3 but If its still unstable I'll stick with this.
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thejamhole said:
So is it worth it going from liberty 2.01 to liberty gb .9? I've been holding off because I finally got my dx to run nice with minimal random reboots. I'd love to be on 2.3 but If its still unstable I'll stick with this.
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Yes, by a mile. Everything is smoother and faster, and gingerbread is the only place to be.
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To the OP
Liberty .8 was good. I then went on to try other ROMs. I avoided APEX because of the bluetooth issue. Right now I am back on rooted 596. CM4DX blew up on me on build 23 and I have been staying away.
I'm trying to find out which ROMS do not have the in-call bluetooth volume issue. I am not getting very many answers though. I wish there was a list of ROM's that do not have the bluetooth issue.

Poll: Stock, CM7 or other Custom Rom?

Got the idea from a post by a dev who thought that we wouldn't need the custom roms so much now that we have CM for the Atrix.
I slightly disagree with that and could bet a 5er that there's more people on other custom roms than on CM, at least for the Atrix and due to its "special" features.
(If I'm wrong the 5er will go to XDA)
EDIT: Seemingly (though numbers cannot always be trusted..) I was wrong. 10€ donated to XDA!

Stock ROM with BLUR frozen. I was having way too many problems with CM7 (like the pattern lock suddenly changed to pin lock on me, but I had no PIN set. ) I love CM7, but will wait to try it again when its finished. Plus the fingerprint scanner and webtop are just too useful to give up for me.

I definately would like to see a vanilla AOSP build.
Of course with the ability to retain fingerprint scanner and webtop functionality.

I just put CM7 on and i'm loving it. alien build 4 was cool and I'd love to have webtop back but it's not that important to me. My fingerprint scanner had been broken for a while and I don't know how to fix it so CM7 seems right fir me now
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Stock rooted. As a change of pace from my sgs2.
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Definitely stock rooted/with most of motoblur frozen. Pciture sync is about the only thing i like about it.
But I don't like the look of stock gingerbread (or at least 'adw's stock' look on CM7, assuming the touchpad's CM7 has the same look as most CM7 releases - just too basic!)

I voted CM7 because thats the best rom availible today in terms of speed and features, but there's so much more that can be done with an AOSP code base. We need more non-blur ROMs before I would consider anything other than CM to be worth while.

Definitely CM7 but With Swype. CM7 is not final yet and it it's by far the smoothest ROM I have used on any phone. The camera ideas improved a lot flute some weird resin as my photos are no longer people, which was the czar with the stick ROMs. The only thing I Miss right note is the ability to use fingerprint scanner but one can't have everything in life....and patience is a virtue.
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Give every rom a try, you will see that always you go back to CM7.
Most stable, fastest and top customization ability.

ofek said:
Give every rom a try, you will see that always you go back to CM7.
Most stable, fastest and top customization ability.
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Man, it's so different user by user.. I've tried CM7 three times in the last 2 months but I keep going away from it; battery is worse than on other roms to start with, go figure?! And it's not as "snappy" as other roms either. Stability is for me equal on all the roms I tried.
Will definitely try the next release as well though..
P. S. Check the attached, on The DarkSide. Battery started from 95%. OC'd to 1,3 Ghz and on constant browsing, market, XDA app through wifi. Can you get that on cm7, basically 4,5 hrs of screen time on a bit more than half a charge..?

Vangelis13 said:
Man, it's so different user by user.. I've tried CM7 three times in the last 2 months but I keep going away from it; battery is worse than on other roms to start with, go figure?! And it's not as "snappy" as other roms either. Stability is for me equal on all the roms I tried.
Will definitely try the next release as well though..
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Agreed. I was starting to like CM7 on the atrix until it randomly changed the lock screen on me. I also had terrible battery life. I loved CM on the G-Tablet, and I love it on my friend's Droid X. I'm sure once the team is done I'll love it on the Atrix too.

Darkside V2.1, pretty stable and fast. Love the look on my SGS2 friend's face when my phone CF benchmarks better than his.
...Though I suspect it wont last long.

I'm on alien just because I haven't wanted to re-setup everything on my phone...once CM hits RC status I'll be on that for sure.

I'm still rockin stock Froyo be wise of the battery life reported on other options.
I'll probably make the jump to ICS if the version is stable...
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well stock was great before 2.3.4 update as far as the battery goes, the best up to date custom rom IMO is Homebase, next would be ninja's latest, but in this poll i would have to go with the CM7 beta, it's been flawless so far(3 days of testing) and i finally got my original battery life back(30+ hours) along with CM's features that i miss from my G1 days when CM first started....

CM7 is my daily driver, but I use the Darkside when I want to do webtop(or just want a change lol)
I have both as nandroid backups on my SD so all i have to do is backup my texts and any new apps i installed and flash between them..15 minutes to change at the most
I voted other rom though, since I still like having the option to do webtop

CM7 all the way. I don't need that BS fingerprint scanner or webtop. It's all useless to me.

Stock, rooted.
MUST HAVE WEBTOP.

the only way to future proof our atrix (at least for a year or two)
is to totally reject this ignoranamous
notion that cm7 or any rom is the end all be all rom
for our devices yes it is a great totally
custom ground up build i respect the time and effert that all the people took to build it ;
with that said we do need other roms too for the fact that maybe there are certain aspects that are not impemented into cm7 and cant be
i implore all the rom creators for the time they spend away from there familys to work on this "hobby"
futhermore yes we do need roms or Oc kernals for it ;
but should we expect it No.
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Vangelis13 said:
Man, it's so different user by user.. I've tried CM7 three times in the last 2 months but I keep going away from it; battery is worse than on other roms to start with, go figure?! And it's not as "snappy" as other roms either. Stability is for me equal on all the roms I tried.
Will definitely try the next release as well though..
P. S. Check the attached, on The DarkSide. Battery started from 95%. OC'd to 1,3 Ghz and on constant browsing, market, XDA app through wifi. Can you get that on cm7, basically 4,5 hrs of screen time on a bit more than half a charge..?
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Seriously??? i've been through every rom, and CM7 has great battery life, along with Ninja and Homebase. Then again the problem may not be the rom, maybe your battery needs to be re-calibrated. That was the problem when i would go from rom to rom. For example i would flash ninja and have amazing battery life, then i tried homebase when it first was released, which the battery was also great, then after a while i went back to ninja and the battery life was horrible(barely got to 8 hours). After i did the steps to re-calibrate my battery, it was just as strong as it was on the day the phone was released(30+ hours), so that may have been the problem

Not another cm9 Thread!

No no, its not that. I just wanted to see how many people are using cm9, and how many tried it out but went back to cm7 and so on.

running it on my nook color. havent even tried it on my phone yet.

I tried CM9 and loved it, but CM7 is better as a daily ROM at the moment. Few more fixes to CM9 and I'll be moving over to it permanently.

I really like it Android keeps getting better every year

Exactly 45 people are currently using cm9. Exactly 23 went back to cm7 after trying it out.
* numbers reflect assumptions by the University of Sarcasm.

Aside from some visual tearing on videos and random discoloring in video recording it's running so perfect for me
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my journy.. cm7 rc0 -> miui -> cm9 -> cm7 n34
I prefer miUI but cm7 just gets updated way more.. I feel like it has the latest everything while miUI is still based off of cm7 rc0..

I'll wait until more of the bugs are worked out. I'm still on stock GB (rooted BML) and it has been awesome for me. Battery lasts a full work day, I can go to work and come home with battery life to spare, GPS works without freezes, my music and videos work and play great, I takes great videos and still shots, and the few games I have on there (mainly to entertain my kids) work great too. There is nothing on CM9 as of yet that makes me want to switch until all the bugs get ironed out, which I know will be soon considering our devs have been cranking fixes as fast as lighting lately.

omair2005 said:
my journy.. cm7 rc0 -> miui -> cm9 -> cm7 n34
I prefer miUI but cm7 just gets updated way more.. I feel like it has the latest everything while miUI is still based off of cm7 rc0..
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Same here man!

wuts a cm9?

To be honest I have 4 ROMs on nandroids that I switch from at least once a day. I play with CM9 for a couple of hours in the evening trying to get it all set up the way I would like it but it seems signal strength is really poor for some reason. It shows wifi strength as poor 1 room away from my router. My other nandroids are CM7, Sleeper EL30 2.03, and Legendary MTD converted RC2.1.

kennyglass123 said:
To be honest I have 4 ROMs on nandroids that I switch from at least once a day. I play with CM9 for a couple of hours in the evening trying to get it all set up the way I would like it but it seems signal strength is really poor for some reason. It shows wifi strength as poor 1 room away from my router. My other nandroids are CM7, Sleeper EL30 2.03, and Legendary MTD converted RC2.1.
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I wish nandroids didn't take up so much space, otherwise I could do that lmao.XD lol I used cm9, till I reinstalled the app I used to IM my girlfriend and realized it didn't support ICS -.- so restored cm7 backup lmao
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Fire n mage said:
I wish nandroids didn't take up so much space, otherwise I could do that lmao.XD lol I used cm9, till I reinstalled the app I used to IM my girlfriend and realized it didn't support ICS -.- so restored cm7 backup lmao
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4 ROM nandroids and 2 older ones take up about 4GB on a 16GB card. I trimmed down all the bad pix on my card and the backups some ROMs leave when installing and have 5GB left over on the 16GB card.

omair2005 said:
my journy.. cm7 rc0 -> miui -> cm9 -> cm7 n34
I prefer miUI but cm7 just gets updated way more.. I feel like it has the latest everything while miUI is still based off of cm7 rc0..
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I don't really have that much time. I'm busy and doing a lot of work just to do the minor fixes that happen every week isn't really worth it for me. V4 should be better for updating, but realistically not much changes week by week anyway.

Zeinzu said:
Aside from some visual tearing on videos and random discoloring in video recording it's running so perfect for me
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Same here. CM9 has been dam near perfect since I installed it, it even seems to work better than CM7 did on my phone.
Really bummed over the video issues, but I think I may just live with it, as I rarely use video, I mostly take pics.
CM7 just didnt bring enough to the table to make me make a perm change from Legendary RC 2.2 w/ MTD, (which was flawless) but with CM9, I just cant get myself to restore my Legendary backup. Video issues are the only bug that matters (at least to me), and the rest of it was just so much better, I think CM9 is here to stay. Given how great it is now, I cant wait to see what it looks like in a month or two (which seems like a lifetime away, but will be here before I know it)
I can't believe my CM9 wish list has been reduced to:
Video recording fixed (major)
Built in theme support fixed (minor, given I was able to apply a theme by hand)
TV-Out enabled (yah, I know, I'm dreaming)
FM Radio (not needed, just would be cool)
So, with 2 of the 4 items being wishful thinking items, and themes being just a matter of time for it to added in, that leaves a single fix for me to have a flawless (IMO) CM9
I feel as giddy as a schoolgirl!! WOOT!

ICS Blues Crespo4g

Anyone else noticed how much cleaner and faster gingerbread is when you rollback ICS?
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Nope
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Did you rollback with a nandroid restore, or...?

Nope.
I could never go back to a pre 4.0 rom, ever. ICS is smoother, faster, and such a better experience than gingerbread ever was.

Nope, ICS is smoother for me.

Yeh gingerbread has been way smoother for me... just went back to Pete's 2.3 rom instead of his 4.0.3 and I love it.... I'm waiting for the official release

yep! anyone who says the ics is smoother is definitely fooling himself. with current ics builds, even the boot animation churns slowly.
still don't believe me? open up messaging or whatever, type something with the keyboard and hit home. see how the keyboard sticks on the screen? that's anything but smooth, to me.

We agree to disagree.

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yep! anyone who says the ics is smoother is definitely fooling himself. with current ics builds, even the boot animation churns slowly.
still don't believe me? open up messaging or whatever, type something with the keyboard and hit home. see how the keyboard sticks on the screen? that's anything but smooth, to me.
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mmm mine doesn't stick on the screen , it instantly disappears and goes to the home screen. With ics vs gb i have far less slow downs after a couple of days with ics , gb i had to restart every few days or it would get snail on me.

jietzer said:
mmm mine doesn't stick on the screen , it instantly disappears and goes to the home screen. With ics vs gb i have far less slow downs after a couple of days with ics , gb i had to restart every few days or it would get snail on me.
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What ROM and kernel are you using? I couldn't get rid of it no matter what I tried.
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Yeah gb is way more responsive. I tried cm9, vhgomez, oics and aokp. Also tried matrix kernel a couple times. It isn't that ics isn't smooth...i think it's quite smooth scrolling and transitioning but actions all take a little longer in ics...like the phone is working harder. There is a small delay on everything...it just isn't as responsive. i like the look of ics a lot but it isn't worth the hit in performance right now. It runs really well on my transformer prime though. I think that's why i don't like using it on my nexus because it is so easy to compare and see how much slower it is. Hopefully the official build is more responsive. If not i have no problem sticking with gb until the gnex is released on sprint.

Maybe not try a custom kernel
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