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I noticed this. Usually the screen uses like 80% of the power after I used the phone for 5 minutes. This is after a night of my phone doing nothing and me playing around with it for 10 minutes or so. The phone idle and cell standby are really really high for some reason.
I did a reset of my battery stats but this didn't do anything.
When I was running stock sense with 2.2 it never gave me this result. Those two were always maybe around 2 or 3% or so so after a full day of use. It's weird.
Anyone else dealing with this?
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5 to ten minutes isn't really an accurate capture, have you given it a full day and then checked the stats? After five minutes it completely stands to reason that in that five minutes the display used 80% of the overall draw that happened during that span, does that make sense?
Same thing here. Used my phone for the whole day and the Mobile Standby used up like 40% of the battery. Mind you, there was a trip today so i used it for pretty much anything from playing games to downloading market apps and listening to music.
With the stock 2.2.1 Sense my display used up 80-90% of the battery all the time.
^Exactly. It makes much more sense that the display uses the most energy by far.
Half a day later.
Still seems weird to me.
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It doesn't make sense at all. This is after almost a full day of usage. I've been calling, surfing and playing games on my phone.
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Battery almost empty stats.
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I kinda figured it out. I just switched to use only 2G networks and now Mobile standby uses only ~35% of the battery. That's still too high, though.
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I'm gonna try that on my next charge. 30% is still very high though, it should be less than 5% or so I think.
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Can the radio affect the battery usage? If so, then shouldn't flashing some other one yield different results?
I have similar issues with cell standby being unusually high. My phone battery only drains poorly in one location (work) however. It will go from 98% to 15% by about lunch time even though I haven't used it. Disabling cellular data and wifi does nothing to improve it. Only airplane mode seems to stop this behavior. I have wiped battery stats and conditioned the battery and am at a loss on how else to troubleshoot this problem.
Removing WIFI calling and GanOptimizer using TI Backup has improved my battery noticeably thus far. Will need to further test over the next day to see if this was the cause of my battery drain. Here is the post I found concerning these two apps. It seems GanOptimizer puts WIFI in high performance mode. This happens when not using WIFI Calling (think you had to have used it once and then turned it off). My thoughts are that it causes WIFI to not sleep (ignoring the policy in the process) and leads to excessive battery drain as WIFI is basically running full power constantly.
i think how it work for the rightway?
Hmm... I dunno. There seems to be something weird going on with the reporting itself. This is after another day of use. I used navigation for maybe 3 minutes or so. When I look at the detailled view of that, it shows that it didn't keep the gps on or anything. It just doesn't make sense at all. I did many other things as well. Calling, texting, browsing, youtube etc. None of that is in that list.
A lot of things just don't show up in the list for some reason. Notice the display isn't even in there?
This is a fresh install that's 3 days old or so and. I don't have battery management apps or app killers installed.
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Well so much for an improvement. Came to work with battery @ 96% and two hours later it was at 69%. Android System now is apparently consuming the most with Cell Standby a close second. Think it is time for a phone wipe and slow installation of apps one by one to find out what is causing such excessive drain.
Well it seems like the error is in the reporting itself. The stats don't make sense at all, but my battery life is a lot better than when I was running stock sense.
On a side note, oh what a happy day today!
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I've been noticing the same odd battery usage on cm7.0.3. the past few days, getting 32% for cell standby and 25% phone idle :S. I've never really had usage this high for any rom except cm7, usually its my display around 80%.
I'm still getting average battery life (~18hrs on a charge) but nothing like the amazing battery life with rmk's g-lite 1.0.2.
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It days I've been unplugged for 8 hours and 47 minutes with 80% battery level with tweeting and texting
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It days I've been unplugged for 8 hours and 47 minutes with 80% battery level with tweeting and texting
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How did you manage that? I had the phone in standby mode overnight for 9 hours and was down to 77%? This was after a factory reset with no appls installed, brightness all the way down, no data/sync on, no animations,etc.?
Idk I just notice my battery icon still looks full when usual at this time its halfway to aquarter way down idk mauve phone is now in a normal cycle I know I installed touteur yesterday since that was raping my battery and use the official twitter now and been using this app using the engadget app and little web browsing
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Uhh your battery will "look 80 percent full" until it hits 69 percent (I think).
Go into settings > About Phone > Status to see what your real battery lvl is.
That's how I got 80% it looked full but said 80%
Now says 74% still best battery day I've had
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Mines weird. It charges on standby. Lol tested twice. One day went to sleep for four hours on a 78% charge, woke up it was at 79%. This morning I slept 3 hours it left it on 28% woke up with 29%.... lmaoooo
My day today was similar but not quite as good.
7 and a half hours off the charger and 75% battery remaining. This is with texting moderate web browsing, facebook a market download and heavy GPS usage while trying to tweak setting to get a more reliable fix for the GPS issues.
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Does anyone know if switching from 3G/E and vice versa consumes more power? In other words if you constantly switch from 3G to Edge or GPRS does this cause your phone to consume more power than if you were in same 3G cell entire time?
I'm in orlando so 3g all thee time
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My day today was similar but not quite as good.
7 and a half hours off the charger and 75% battery remaining. This is with texting moderate web browsing, facebook a market download and heavy GPS usage while trying to tweak setting to get a more reliable fix for the GPS issues.
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How is your display so slow at under 40%? My usage is always around the 60-75% of battery usage for the display. This is with a live wall paper or regular wall paper. Any settings you want to share with us?
This how mines look
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I get 3G most of the time as well, but in many places where i used to get 3G on G1, i only get E now on Vibrant.
Many years ago I read that radios power consumption spikes up significantly when its doing a call "handshake" or switching from one cell tower to another on voice calls. It would be reasonable to assume that because Vibrant radio is weaker, it leads to more power being consumed due to more frequent cell and data protocol type switching.
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How is your display so slow at under 40%? My usage is always around the 60-75% of battery usage for the display. This is with a live wall paper or regular wall paper. Any settings you want to share with us?
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I think the display percentage is low because the GPS usage I had took a decent chunk of the battery.
No special settings to speak of. I use ADW launcher usually have brightness down all the way unless I am using the phone outdoors (which is not very often) I have a regular background.
The only thing I can say that I changed recently that might be helping my battery life is that I changed my ATK settings to put the security level at medium while already ste to Crazy and to kill on screen off.
No god's and mine 45%
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I think the display percentage is low because the GPS usage I had took a decent chunk of the battery.
No special settings to speak of. I use ADW launcher usually have brightness down all the way unless I am using the phone outdoors (which is not very often) I have a regular background.
The only thing I can say that I changed recently that might be helping my battery life is that I changed my ATK settings to put the security level at medium while already ste to Crazy and to kill on screen off.
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So you are using ATK. I had it on my phone earlier this week and in standby mode I was only using like 6% in 10 hours. Last night I did a factory reset (phone was lagging) and did not have ATK installed (had default wallpaper, brightness down all the way, no animations) and in 9 hours I dropped to 77% just in standby mode.
So I installed ATK again today and see how it goes. I haven't installed my apps again and using standard touchwiz (had launcherpro installed before the factory reset). Previously I had ATK set on Crazy and kill on screen off as well. I think I had security on High though.
Using Myn's ROM with the Battery Tweak, I have FaceBook syncing and I have 2 gmail accounts syncing along with Weather every 3 hours, Facebook every 2 hours.
Nothing else as of now and using Itching Thumb App.
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I get that stock with fairly heavy usage.
now lets see that screen on time.
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now lets see that screen on time.
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Not needed. From the pic he attached it's obvious the phone was in standby most of the time.
Man, you even use ya phone?
What is with this obsession of battery life goin on 'round here? I say, as long as you can get better battery life than a stock rom, you've won. Keeping the phone on for a day or two without charging seems like a good idea, but everyday isn't the same, and one day you may need to use it way more than any other day..if you start that day off with only 30% just because you wanted to see how long your battery would last, then you really gotta limit how often you use your phone just so that it can make it till the next time your around a charger.
How do u check wake time?
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I agree, but it want a heavy day. When I finally did have 14% left and used tv flash battery seasoned super fast. I forgot, I'm using juice defender too
Globetrahter
The battery needs to be charged? I bought my phone back in June. The battery is now at 70%. I figured I just had to buy a new one when this one runs out.
Barely used phone. Come on.
Display 4%? Is that possible?
I can go a full day and a half, 36 hours, without a charge and I am using the original sense android... and I use my phone normally, I text, read usatoday, tmz, check email a few times, use the xda app... and I have wifi on all the time! What's this beef with battery life on these forums? Mine lasts forever! I just have things update manually, I don't let anything run without my permission.
I do, however, turn my phone off the 6 hours I am sleeping.
wifi is on = low battery usage, atleast in my experience.
Indeed. I got 1 day and 19 hours on stock nonrooted 2.2 back. and i used it for some medium texting. and some gps applications...maybe 2-3 hours max awake time. i dont think you used it much...the excessive 3G usage from FB doesnt mean anything.
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How do u check wake time?
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You should be able to get what you're looking for from the Spare Parts app.
According to my calculation thats is 69min of display usage.
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How do u check wake time?
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According to my calculation thats is 69min of display usage.
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According to mine, it's 122 min of screen on usage.
I had this scenario on my phone running myn's rls2 + king cfs #11 yesterday:
since unplugged - 24 hours
display on - 1 hour 25 minutes
charge remaining - 50%.
so i wanted to find out how long the battery would last on standby, and to my surprise.. it turned out to be nearly 58 hrs!!! that was on stock sense rom. non-rooted. and of course with very very minimal use. i basically just left the phone alone on my desk or in my pocket all day.
here is the screenshot i took back in july:
but that kind of battery life is unrealistic with normal usage. I am a moderate user (on the higher side), and i typically put my evo on charge everyday in the morning when i get to work (on weekdays). so, the charge on my phone lasts about 25 hrs with normal usage, that usually means about 4-5hrs of Awake Time. this is after rooting the phone. and i am using a stock rooted sense rom. i have had similar results before rooting the phone as well.
on weekends, i find myself charging the phone about 3 times (over 2 days), as the usage of the phone goes very very high.
i have a charger on my desk at work for the weekday charging, and a charger in my car for the weekends.
i have recently installed setCPU, and havent really seen that making too much of a difference, but that perhaps has to do with my usage pattern.
as pointed out in many a threads, signal strength is one major factor when it comes to battery drain. i live in Atlanta and i have great Sprint coverage where I am located, and that makes a world of difference.
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Using Myn's ROM with the Battery Tweak, I have FaceBook syncing and I have 2 gmail accounts syncing along with Weather every 3 hours, Facebook every 2 hours.
Nothing else as of now and using Itching Thumb App.
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it would help if you indicate the battery life that you were getting on stock or any other rom you were using prior to this. because there are so many variables that come into play as far as battery life is concerned. so that will help put your claim into some perspective
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The battery needs to be charged? I bought my phone back in June. The battery is now at 70%. I figured I just had to buy a new one when this one runs out.
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hahah.. funny
Just trying to get a feel if my battery is normal or not.
With continuous internet usage over wifi, it takes up 30%/hr on the STOCK battery.
With the Sprint OEM Extended battery (2600mah), it only takes up 10-12%/hr.
So I'm wondering if my stock battery just sucks or if the Sprint extended battery is actually more around 3500mah...
How much battery is used with continuous internet usage for you?
I was just browsing the forums here for an hour and 44 minutes - little g reader too - and the first hour recorded roughly 11 percent of battery loss with straight use, shown in juice plotter. Screen brightness at lowest and wifi.
That said if I was popping tabs left and right and jumping around in the browser it would be a bit different. I think I was on Deadspin for maybe 15 minutes though. Dolphin Mini.
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I'm getting about 15% an hour on mikfroyo (undervolted htc 15). that's about what I used to get on older build roms (evio) and stock kernels.
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pic shows 7% loss in half an hour but you get the trend
edit: stock battery. how's your wifi signal strength?
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Well, guess I enabled wifi after 20 minutes or so. Between 20-25 percent in 2 hours 10 min didn't have a full charge. Just started using juice plotter to track how little battery gets used when phone idle. Cool little app! Always so late to the party.
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wifi strength is excellent, i'm only 8 ft from the source (in my room). i keep the screen brightness at the lowest setting since i lay in bed and use the phone before i sleep for about 30 min.
i'm extremely surprised at the drainage of both yours with just the stock battery. maybe i should try and get an exchange through Sprint.
some more info on your setup? maybe it's a software issue. try system panel to see what's running and how much it's been running. it also gives you cpu speed which should throttle back when there is no interaction with the device.
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i'm on Fresh 3.5.0.1 with the SBC kernel. I don't have any weird drainage issues over night, i sleep with it at 80% and wake up with it with about a <5% drop. I just have the usual apps running, nothing too crazy. All I use the phone for really is to browse the web.
I find that System Panel doesn't reallly help too much when i had a weird drainage issue a few months back, a hard data reset fixed that.
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I'm getting about 15% an hour on mikfroyo (undervolted htc 15). that's about what I used to get on older build roms (evio) and stock kernels.
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pic shows 7% loss in half an hour but you get the trend
edit: stock battery. how's your wifi signal strength?
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That pic shows 14% loss in about 30 minutes.
Which is normal - about 0.5% a minute.
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Just trying to get a feel if my battery is normal or not.
With continuous internet usage over wifi, it takes up 30%/hr on the STOCK battery.
With the Sprint OEM Extended battery (2600mah), it only takes up 10-12%/hr.
So I'm wondering if my stock battery just sucks or if the Sprint extended battery is actually more around 3500mah...
How much battery is used with continuous internet usage for you?
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That would be normal usage with 3G. Not sure about wifi.
Wherever answers are in this thread should be in mA since percentages are meaningless on the Evo.
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look at 90%-83% when screen is constantly on for 30 min. 100-90% always drops fast.
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That pic shows 14% loss in about 30 minutes.
Which is normal - about 0.5% a minute.
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I wouldn't say meaningless. i.e. 10% drain from a 1500 mAh battery is 150 mA no matter how you slice it.
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Wherever answers are in this thread should be in mA since percentages are meaningless on the Evo.
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I wouldn't say meaningless. i.e. 10% drain from a 1500 mAh battery is 150 mA no matter how you slice it.
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No it's not. It wouldn't be even on most Li-ion batteries in the first place, but even more so on the Evo. The firmware is programmed to oscillate between ~ 500mA and -500mA depending on voltage, all while keeping the status you see at 100%. Download Battery Monitor Widget to see this in action.
I installed OMGB-6 when it was released. Then flashed invisiblek #21 kernel and the new market. Since I last charged it, I've talked on it for about an hour, used the web-browser (Skyfire) fairly moderately, sent a few emails (Gmail), and spent a total of about an hour of GPS through the application WAZE. I'm left at 22% battery left after about 22 hours of use.
I've been fairly lazy with regards to changing the screen brightness, so it's been on about 50% brightness. I've left sync and gps on during the whole time.
I've been using Watchdog as a smart task manager. I have SetCPU installed, but I haven't used it at all.
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I have not installed the kernel but my battery life is terrible. I barely have any apps and I do not use my phone a lot. I love the rom (favorite by far). Should I try to install the kernel.
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Should I try to install the kernel.
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Can't hurt, just nandroid first, or have a spare kernel handy.
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I chewed through my battery in about 10 hrs today with the same kernel.
Guess I use mine a lot more. I've also got 26 hrs out if it when I barely use it.
Don't think you get great battery life when you don't use it much.
I'm in CM 6.1 but that wont really matter.
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True, I haven't been using it all that much. But compared to other ROM's I've used, this get much better battery. Everything else I've tried out got me a max of ~12 hours even on idle the whole time.
Definitely try to install the kernel. Can't hurt! Just make sure you always have a nandroid backup available.
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I installed OMGB-6 when it was released. Then flashed invisiblek #21 kernel and the new market. Since I last charged it, I've talked on it for about an hour, used the web-browser (Skyfire) fairly moderately, sent a few emails (Gmail), and spent a total of about an hour of GPS through the application WAZE. I'm left at 22% battery left after about 22 hours of use.
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Stock Battery?
50% Brightness?!?!?! Wow....battery life is not worth looking at a dull screen. 100% all the way for me...im using 1800mah from ChiChitech that I got for $20. Seems to help enough.
I'm also running a Gingerbread ROM (Evervolv a17) but can't tell what difference it's making on battery.
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50% Brightness?!?!?! Wow....battery life is not worth looking at a dull screen. 100% all the way for me...im using 1800mah from ChiChitech that I got for $20. Seems to help enough.
I'm also running a Gingerbread ROM (Evervolv a17) but can't tell what difference it's making on battery.
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the screen is not dull when it's set low...lol 100% brightness is like staring at the sun for me.
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Hydra 1.13 overclock kernel, stock ROM, stock battery, auto-brightness. I'm currently at 20% battery after 2.5 days. Light usage over the weekend, but there is an hour and a half of talk time in there and a half hour of reading.
The trick to DI battery life is keeping the data network usage/standby under control. If you're trying to send/receive data with no signal, the phone will burn through its battery in 4 hours and I've used 20% in 15 minutes trying to book a flight on a low signal connection.
Realizing this took me a few months since I live in NYC and as such, go through a lot of signal shadows. Some days my phone would be at 50% battery after 12 hours, other times it'd be dead after 6. I now realize that the short days were caused by sync services trying to run when I was in a shadow. You can diagnose this for yourself by going to the cell standby section of the battery usage. If you're over 10% or so without a signal, you have this problem.
You can handle this manually by holding down the power (on the stock rom) and enabling/disabling mobile network. This is a pain in the ass.
I handle this with some simple Locale rules along with the Mobile Signal and Mobile Data plugins. The first is to shut off the data when there's no signal. The second is to shut off the data at work where I'm usually but not always on a wireless network. The third is to shut down the data during my normal sleep hours and airplane mode if I'm at home.
These easily got me to 36 hours so I grabbed an undervolt kernel, which gets me to 2 days of regular use. Daily I do about 15m of talk, 40m reading news/email on the subway, and another 30 mins browsing/messaging/misc. My monthly data use is ~350MB.
While it is likely true that the OP and others have good battery life under their specific use conditions, battery life in general on smart phones is mediocre to poor at best. I have friends with various different models of smartphone (including iphone) and across the board battery life is not good. The exception is blackberry, but I don't consider those competitive from a tech and feature standpoint. Obviously different people are going to have different opinions and experiences based on the various factors that influence battery longevity.
The solution is to stop worrying about it, get a spare or two or three and pop in a new battery when one dies. This imo is one of the best things about the Dinc and Android phones in general. Just my 2c.
Once we get charged up (and back down), let's see how the battery life in the S4 compares to the quad core.
Please make sure to include your screen on time, as that is the best indicator of light/heavy use.
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I can't believe how good the battery has been so far, 84% after 13hours (over night)
I am a light user. still - that is impressive for stock. I never got close to that with my OG Epic on stock which was usually 3% per hour.
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Once we get charged up (and back down), let's see how the battery life in the S4 compares to the quad core.
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Mostly on WiFi
Screen brightness set to max
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1h, 3M Battery down to 76%.
screen on for 38 min, 33% of battery usage.
Heres mine on a first day full charge...
Not too bad for first day with moderate to heavy use!
This is heavy usage. Screen on time of 3.5 hours. Downloading Max Payne and a lot of apps. Downloading and listening to audio on Google chrome. Lots of Pulse usage. Games, YouTube, and 30 minutes of phone calls.
*edit* Bluetooth and wifi on all day long.
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More information is better for those of us living vicariously through you guys. Remember to include screen-on time. Thanks!
Here's mine for the first full day. Should my cell idle be taking up that much of the battery?
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one thing im NOT noticing here is Allshare Service taking up a high percentage in your guys battery stats...
on mine its been at 7-9% and i dont know why, i have something waking up my phone when the screen is off and it might be that... ive forced stop, but i check later and its active again, ive disabled the service and the Allshare play in the application manager but still comes back on... hmmm i think im gonna have to root and just get rid of that file, or freeze it or something
Question... Does having all the motion settings on effect the battery? Also does having the NFC and sbeam on hurt the battery?
lse4 said:
Question... Does having all the motion settings on effect the battery? Also does having the NFC and sbeam on hurt the battery?
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in addition, the eye tracker thingy?
This is only the 2nd cycle. Going to wipe stats after this charge
I'm still waiting for the second cycle to finish I have the motion controls on and the eye thing and I had no drop at all overnight
sewhuy said:
This is only the 2nd cycle. Going to wipe stats after this charge
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I wish I could get some stats like that. The screenshots are while I was sleeping and 7% seems like a lot of drain for it just sitting there. Only thing on was wifi. Cell standby time on is always the same as the time on battery, is that normal?
edit: the phone now shows 79% battery left with time on battery of 12h 46m; cell standby the exact same; screen on at 9% with time on of 48m. I'm fully stock and running power save mode.
Here are my stats. I think the battery life isn't too bad so far but we will see.
are the battery stats suppose to reset when you restart the phone? For dinner reason my persist even after a reboot
Sent from my SPH-L710
xtrezpasor said:
are the battery stats suppose to reset when you restart the phone? For dinner reason my persist even after a reboot
Sent from my SPH-L710
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No, they will carry over until you re-charge or change the battery.
I was going to make a thread like this, but it was already here! Here are my results after my second full charge and regular usage. The results are on par with my fully modified and decked out Epic. Of course, this device has a bigger battery, but it also has a larger screen. Between the hardware and software upgrades, I'm very impressed with the stock battery life. This includes wifi on at all times as well as signal w/data. Some motion features are enabled, nfc is not, and google sync is off (I use stock email). Now how much further can this be improved?? Remember not to be discouraged, Screen On times will vary depending on what the phone is used for. Showing pictures is much less battery intensive than watching YouTube videos.
DEVICE: Sprint Galaxy S III
ROOT: Non-Rooted
ROM: Stock
POWER-SAVE: Disabled
Calibrated
sewhuy said:
Calibrated
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What is involved in calibration?