Hi, how can i back up before root/unlocking boot loader? i want a backup incase i screwup
You don't have to unlock bootloader. Use 'Gingerbreak' instead. It's very easy and no harm to your data.
so how do i back up?
Like incase i want to go back to factory reset.
dabinn said:
You don't have to unlock bootloader. Use 'Gingerbreak' instead. It's very easy and no harm to your data.
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So you only need Gingerbreak and then fastboot (Bin4ry tutorial)?
For getting root gingerbreak alone is enough. If you also want an unlocked bootloader (not necessary for root anymore) you'll indeed get some extra work.
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Has anyone figured out a way to unlock this device without having it do a factory reset?
What's the reason for the wipe anyways? I don't understand why this has to happen.
I guess it's impossible, but you can try Carbon Backup to backup your apps+data, it works without root
Sent from my Nexus 7 running Android 4.2.2
I actually have root and titanium backup but it's a pain to backup and restore. Would be nice if the device simply didn't rest itself when unlocked.
Maybe one day the app "Boot Unlocker for Nexus Devices" will support the Nexus 7
Sent from my SK17i running Android 4.1.2
Yeah, something like that is what I'm looking for.
I wonder what method the app uses to unlock other devices.
xxbeanxx said:
I actually have root and titanium backup but it's a pain to backup and restore. Would be nice if the device simply didn't rest itself when unlocked.
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Weird question how did you root without unlocking bootloader? and why do you need to unlock the bootloader, if you're already rooted?
clockcycle said:
Weird question how did you root without unlocking bootloader? and why do you need to unlock the bootloader, if you're already rooted?
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I relocked after flashing su (for security reasons). I don't have a need to unlock again right now but wanted to know if it was possible just in case I wanted to flash a zip in the future.
xxbeanxx said:
I relocked after flashing su (for security reasons). I don't have a need to unlock again right now but wanted to know if it was possible just in case I wanted to flash a zip in the future.
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Ok, makes sense. I did the same thing and couldn't find a way either, and just went at it the same way as initially, wiping.
I've heard that the rationale for forcing a memory wipe when unlocking the bootloader was to protect your data in case your device fell into the wrong hands. If someone steals it and can't get past your lockscreen, they won't be able to get to your device's memory via usb. They can try unlocking the bootloader, but that will wipe the device's memory clean. The thief will be able to use your device but the data is safe. If the bootloader is unlocked, the thief can plug in the phone or tablet, go mucking around in your files, and steal your identity as well as your device.
This is why using a device with an unlocked bootloader is not as safe as using one that is locked. It is also why a new security feature was added to 4.2.2 and adb, although I haven't plugged in my Nexus 7 to find out how it works.
getoffmylawn said:
I've heard that the rationale for forcing a memory wipe when unlocking the bootloader was to protect your data in case your device fell into the wrong hands. If someone steals it and can't get past your lockscreen, they won't be able to get to your device's memory via usb. They can try unlocking the bootloader, but that will wipe the device's memory clean. The thief will be able to use your device but the data is safe. If the bootloader is unlocked, the thief can plug in the phone or tablet, go mucking around in your files, and steal your identity as well as your device.
This is why using a device with an unlocked bootloader is not as safe as using one that is locked. It is also why a new security feature was added to 4.2.2 and adb, although I haven't plugged in my Nexus 7 to find out how it works.
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Thats a good reason.
4.2.2 on my nexus 4, when I plugged it into the pc, a box poped up on the n4 asking perrmission showing the pc's key..
FWIW, I found this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2068207
For work I have to use mobileiron, which detects everything from root to the unlocked bootloader. I am not sure if it simply detects the unlocked bootloader or detects because of the warning that comes up, I would guess its the latter.
So not only can't I root, I can't unlock my bootloader in the current state. At the very least I would like to enable wifi tether, and I would do that through TWRP but then I can't unlock my bootloader. So way to relock without wiping.
So I guess the question is for people who don't know about MobileIron is will we be able to unlock the bootloader without setting off any other options? or is there way to at least edit build.prop without root or unlocked bootloader?
I guess ideally if I could root without unlocking the bootloader then unroot that would solve my problems. Thoughts anyone?
Here is a thought, although it might fail. You could unlock your bootloader, boot TWRP without flashing(fastboot boot twrp-rgvrg.img), make your changes, then boot back into the bootloader and relock it.
Still can't say for sure it would work and it will virtually guarantee your userdata be wiped.
Buy a second phone for work related purposes
I'd never spend so much on a phone just to let my company lock it down
You could always test out various configs and see what trips the software or not. You might be able to keep TWRP and root just turned off via supersu and everything work. Similar to android pay. You might not even be able to unlock the bootloader. Anything in between in possible.
Regardless it is pretty trivial to go back to stock and get everything locked back up again. So there is little risk in trying.
If it were me I'd try root and see if it worked. No? Ok, try to disable root with supersu. Will work or not. If not then make your host file edits for adaway and such and then completely remove root. See if that works.
You can also try to unlock the bootloader now as stock and see if it impacts the software. See exactly where it trips and prevents you from using it. Then work from there.
If nothing works, go back to 100% stock and lock the bootloader again. At least you gave it a go and had some fun for the evening. If I had to guess something in between will work and you can work around the limitations.
Read some threads talked about un-boot risk without unlock bootloader. Is this necessary for 6p? Thanks
chiawei said:
Read some threads talked about un-boot risk without unlock bootloader. Is this necessary for 6p? Thanks
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Can you please clarify exactly what you're asking? I believe having the bootloader unlocked is a must, even if you have no plans on flashing ROMs or anything like that. I'll tell you why. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device. It's better for you to do this while you're in control and can backup your data first. If you have problems with your phone in future and need to flash the factory images to revive it, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. You might not have access to your data at this time to be able to back it up first. This means you'll be forced to unlock the bootloader and wipe all of your data. Sure, you'll have to live with a little warning each time your phone boots up, but that's much better than losing your data if something goes wrong.
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thanks
Hi I need your help, Iwant yo re-lock the bootloader on my OnePlus 6T
I understand that I have to go back everything on factory but I dont know how do it.
I did the ''root'' because I wanted to change the font and improve the sound but tlost quality on Netflix, and I that is important to me because I use it a lot. I want to back to L1
The problem was when I tried to eliminate the ''root'' (magisk) The system did not star and i was afraid because Iam not an expert so i flashed the ''full OTA'' and it works again, Now I want to remove twrp but I dont know how so I need help because i dont want brick my phone
I got the recovery 9.0.7 stock.img if I flash it will work?
sorry for my english..
Thanks
ross92 said:
Hi I need your help, Iwant yo re-lock the bootloader on my OnePlus 6T
I understand that I have to go back everything on factory but I dont know how do it.
I did the ''root'' because I wanted to change the font and improve the sound but tlost quality on Netflix, and I that is important to me because I use it a lot. I want to back to L1
The problem was when I tried to eliminate the ''root'' (magisk) The system did not star and i was afraid because Iam not an expert so i flashed the ''full OTA'' and it works again, Now I want to remove twrp but I dont know how so I need help because i dont want brick my phone
I got the recovery 9.0.7 stock.img if I flash it will work?
sorry for my english..
Thanks
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Check this thread, and follow local update method, then you need only of a command to lock the bootloader:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/how-to-update-return-to-stock-oneplus-6-t3870795
I just locked the bootloader for my OnePlus 6t. Follow the steps given below.
1. Backup all the important data. I am not responsible for any data loss!!!
2. Remove security lock screen (pin/pattern) or any thing
3. Download the stock rom from https://oxygenos.oneplus.net/OnePlus6TOxygen_34_OTA_020_all_1904032212_38e22c8b9abd42e3.zip
and transfer it to your phone.
4. Boot into twrp recovery.
5. flash the downloaded zip
6. Once done, reboot the system.
7. Now, boot back into the fastboot. (you can enable advance restart from developer mode for easy boot into fastboot)
8. Run fastboot oem lock
9. You will be presented with two options on phone screen. Select the one that says lock the bootloader.
10. It will wipe everything.
11. Once you in the system, enable developer mode and make sure that oem unlock is turned off. If not, turn it off and restart your phone.
And, you are done.
Let me know if it helps or if you have any question/concern.
MDM Tool in my opinion the easiest and quickest way to go back to 1000% stock. It will re-flash every partition on the phone so it's like brand new again. Using the MSM Tool guarantees that everything is back to stock and should restore the Widevine version back to L1 or whatever it was originally.
A question please
Once you lock again your phone, does it loose the root????
I mean, I have a Xperia 10 with the bootloader unlocked , it is root as well. Now root permissions for special aps work fine, but Google Pay is unusable, it does not work anymore. I hid root with xposed framework and rootCloak, but Google Pay still does not work now because the bootloader is unlocked...
As you should know, it is possible to lock the phone again... and many of those phones that relock their bootloaders keep the root permissions...
However , in my case, with Xperia devices (bq and xiaomi happen de same) is you lock the bootloader again, the phone resets, everything dissapear and root is eliminated. What is a really disaster.
As you have heard, the majority of phones, if you lock them again the root continues working, at least the apps that you gave them root permissions they continue working as they used to. But in my case this is different....ç
So please,
Is there any possibility to Lock my bootloader again without loosing the Root in my Xperia?????
Thousand of thanks!!!!
Bardok84 said:
A question please
Once you lock again your phone, does it loose the root????
I mean, I have a Xperia 10 with the bootloader unlocked , it is root as well. Now root permissions for special aps work fine, but Google Pay is unusable, it does not work anymore. I hid root with xposed framework and rootCloak, but Google Pay still does not work now because the bootloader is unlocked...
As you should know, it is possible to lock the phone again... and many of those phones that relock their bootloaders keep the root permissions...
However , in my case, with Xperia devices (bq and xiaomi happen de same) is you lock the bootloader again, the phone resets, everything dissapear and root is eliminated. What is a really disaster.
As you have heard, the majority of phones, if you lock them again the root continues working, at least the apps that you gave them root permissions they continue working as they used to. But in my case this is different....ç
So please,
Is there any possibility to Lock my bootloader again without loosing the Root in my Xperia?????
Thousand of thanks!!!!
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Go ask in Xperia threads
Striatum_bdr said:
Go ask in Xperia threads
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Yes I did:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-10/development/help-how-to-lock-bootloader-loosing-t3965829/post80203451#post80203451
Also I asked for help here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-lock-google-pay-xperia-rooted-t3965637
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/themes-apps/app-bootunlocker-nexus-devices-version-t1731993/page66
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/themes-apps/app-bootunlocker-nexus-devices-version-t1731993/page66
This is the only Thread where I could find some information about locking a bootloader again. Yes , this is dedicated to xiaomi 6t, but locking bootloaders is something common.
The only thing I want is to lock my Bootloader again without loosing Root permisions. Xperia devices seem to RESET everything when you lock the booloader automatically...., but perhaps there is another way.... a possibility to lock the bootloader without the phone is reset (loosing root permissions) ....
I asked for some help here. I regret any inconvenience that could may be caused on this thread with my message.
Regards
Nobody have your phone here how could we help you? Each phone has its specific behavior
If you relock a OnePlus phone you reset everything, like when you unlock it and it's logical. A locked bootloader is meant to ensure safety of data, safety that can't be provided with root access. Locked BL and root are antinomic.
Striatum_bdr said:
Nobody have your phone here how could we help you? Each phone has its specific behavior
If you relock a OnePlus phone you reset everything, like when you unlock it and it's logical. A locked bootloader is meant to ensure safety of data, safety that can't be provided with root access. Locked BL and root are antinomic.
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Thank you for your message and understanding. So in Oneplus devices happen the same. So once you unlock the bootloader you loose Google Pay forever because it does not work wit BL unlocked...
Some users suggested me to lock again the bootloader,
Imagine:
- I become Root. Then I modify some apps
- I give to some apps root permissions.
- I lock the bootloader again.
- I won't be able to modify my phone anymore, but all those apps that were given root permissions, Will they be kept in the phone although it has BL locked again.
would it be like this?
or all changes you did while being root would dissapear with everything?????
If So... there is no exit what I see..., We have to choose between being Root users.... or being stock with Google Pay. It is a Pity.
I was not sure if all Phones reset and erase everything when you lock the bootloader .... but as I can see here, this is the reality. Root users loose Google PAY definitely.
Is there any option to solve this??
thanks again for your attention.
regards
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Thank you for your message and understanding. So in Oneplus devices happen the same. So once you unlock the bootloader you loose Google Pay forever because it does not work wit BL unlocked...
Some users suggested me to lock again the bootloader, but if I do that, as you have said, the Root and everything will be erased because the phone resets everything. So... there is no exit what I see..., We have to choose between being Root users.... or being stock with Google Pay. It is a Pity.
I was not sure if all Phones reset and erase everything when you lock the bootloader .... but as I can see here, this is the reality. Root users loose Google PAY definitely.
Is there any option to solve this??
thanks again for your attention.
regards
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I'm unlocked and rooted c and Google pay works perfectly with Magisk
Striatum_bdr said:
I'm unlocked and rooted c and Google pay works perfectly with Magisk
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Does google pay work??? What did you do in magisk exactly to achieve that???
I rooted my xperia using Magisk..., is there any tutorial or info that you suggest to me to follow ? or what should I do in magisk options???
I have 10 days with my phone stopped, trying and trying to make Google Pay works....Maybe this is happening to me because my Xperia uses Android 9.0.... or Magisk should make google pay work even being in android 9.0?
First Google pay recognized Root, and the app stopped working. I hid it using xposed and RootCloak
Then, Google pay recognized Bootloader. But now... I dont know what to do to hid bootloader unlocked for Google..., Google pay recognises it is unlocked... a disaster and a nightmare for me, I dont know what to do...
Thousand of thanks, I really thankfull for your help.
Regards
and keep all data/apps installed.
Is this possible?
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xanthos84 said:
and keep all data/apps installed.
Is this possible?
Thanks
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It's unlocking the bootloader that wipes your device. If you've already done that, rooting won't wipe it.
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It's unlocking the bootloader that wipes your device. If you've already done that, rooting won't wipe it.
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I understand. So its not possible to unlock the bootloader without wiping, correct?
And is it possible to go back (locking the bootloader) and reseting to factory default? Or do I lose something (like Knox on Samsung devices)
xanthos84 said:
I understand. So its not possible to unlock the bootloader without wiping, correct?
And is it possible to go back (locking the bootloader) and reseting to factory default? Or do I lose something (like Knox on Samsung devices)
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If you haven't unlocked your bootloader, you don't have a choice, you're going to lose your data. Yes, you can go back to stock and locked pretty much whenever you'd like. Just don't try to re-lock the bootloader if you have any mods. This is my first OnePlus device, but it sounds like the restore tool can be used to restore to stock/locked regardless of any mods you may have, but don't take my word for it, do your homework first.
Do a backup and open the bootloader, you only have to do It once, and then, you could root when you want without lose anything.