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Why are my Clockworkmod backups unusable?

So, I just rooted my Mytouch 4G a few days ago using the 'Ultimate' guide on this forum. I had root access and I disabled and deleted some stock apps from my phone. I was using LauncherPro instead of the HTC Sense launcher. I made a backup in Clockworkmod recovery immediately after installing Clockworkmod, before I'd made any major changes.
So, I spent the past few days removing and tweaking things. I had my phone working extremely well. But then I realized that I actually wanted an .apk file (the stock visual voicemail app) that I'd already deleted from the phone. It should be in my original backup file, right? So I figured that I'd make a new backup, restore my old backup containing the .apk file, copy the .apk file off of the phone, then restore my recent backup. Well...this didn't work.
When I restored either the original backup or the more recent backup, the phone would boot up and I'd get a message that the System UIDs are inconsistent. The phone would let me make phone calls, but 95% of my apps were missing from the loader. Most of the icons on my home screens were grayed out and would tell me the applications were missing when I tried to click on them.
I tried Fix Permissions in Clockworkmod recovery, but it didn't help. My Android Market app and all of my file manager apps didn't work, so I couldn't reinstall any apps. When I'd wipe all the data on my phone, but only restore the System backup, the Android Market would work and the phone basically returns to stock. But as soon as I restore my Data backup, everything breaks.
At this point, I've already wiped the phone and started over from scratch, but I'm afraid to rely on Clockworkmod/Rom Manager for backups again. Any ideas what went wrong?

did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.

this happens when your backups/card gets corrupted... it could of been a number of things... changing the name of something to how much you scan the card... hard to say exactly what caused it... If your really worried about it I would suggest making a backup of your backup on your computer just to be safe...

Hmm. Mine does.
mr.tenuki said:
did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.

mr.tenuki said:
did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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This is for phones that dont support Nand like the vibrant. HTC phones is a full backup including kernel.

sundayhustler said:
I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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Your right, CWM does do a md5 check when restoring. I'm sorry, I don't know what could be wrong. I currently have like 5 backups of 4 ROMS and have to restored to just to play around. Did you do apps2sd? This can cause major issues when switching ROM's.

I am also having a problem restoring to my stock rom. how big does my backup file have to be?

I have had this problem before. I think in my case my issue was caused by and incompatible version of CWM. I found that to be safe, I usually make two back ups, one with recovery in 2.5.12 and one with 3.0.0.6.

It was the file. It was only 60mb, apparently I ran out of memory thanks though my other backups work fine and I found the stock rom on a thread.
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oh haha i was about to post.

ROM Manager question

Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?

durrett syndrome said:
Ok so I DLed ROM Manager to my epic and hit "back up ROM". I now have a backup with todays date under the Clockwork mod folder on my SD.
1. Am I all backed up? If wiped phone and re flashed I could get my angry bird levels back?
2. If I switch to a different ROM, can I still use this backup?
3. If I do restore, how do I do it? Thru CWM?
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In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.

Backup your apps with Titanium backup.

I suggest doing both rom manager and titanium backup
Just in case.

If you go to a differemt rom you could restore all apps in clockwork by going into advanced restore under cwm and choosing to restore only /data however with some roms that's not recommended and could cause issues. If you restore the whole backup through cwm then it would overwrite whatever rom you have loaded.
With titanium backup you can backup just individual applications and restore their data or data and the app itself so as someone else said above that's your best bet.
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futureprospect said:
In my experience with Rom Manager, it doesn't work with the epic.
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Backing up with rom manager is literally backing up with clockwork mod. ROM manager just reboots the phone into cwm and makes the backup there. Clockwork mod backups have always worked for me.

When I tried to use ROM Manager it wouldn't work properly. Someone a while ago complained that booting into cwm with the app causes errors. I wouldn't rely on the app at all if I were you.
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Manually boot into cwm and backup, the app doesnt work properly. I tried backing up a rom and it said it was backed up after 10 seconds. The rom file was 3 mbs...the backup should be near 100, if not more.
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Gotta add my cold water here. ROM manager has been less than useless for me, screwing up things every time I've tried it.
Stick to backing up the entire system from CWM, and a full backup via Titanium to have access to individual apps as needed. This has always worked for me, and many others here.
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So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.

durrett syndrome said:
So if I ODIN my phone with a new modem and flash a completely different rom, I can still restore with a backup made with a different ROM? Thanks.
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Technically, yes, but it is not recommended. Restoring data when moving between roms is usually when errors start happening. Also Rom manager does not work with the epic so there is probably no data in the file it created. You would have to boot into clockwork mod and backup from there.or use titanium backup and then restore just the apps when you switch roms.
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Just my 2 cents...everyone here keeps saying to use Titanium, give Mybackup Root a try. Its free and has a good UI. Titanium seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be.
Other than that, the other posts here are correct, it doesnt matter what ROM you are running when you make or restore a backup, apps and their data will transfer and restore just fine, BUT like stated by others, system data does not always play well between ROMs and in my opinion you are better off not trying to restore that when you switch between ROMs...has given me more than one headache.

+1 on MyBackup Root. I find it to be more user friendly and just as effective as Titanium as well. I make a backup of everything (apks,data,photos,system settings, etc) at 4am everyday while I'm asleep. I plan on sticking with ACS so this is just a security net since they still do not use journaling. However if I want to try a different rom I can always choose to restore only the apks from the backup file.

The epic has not gotten rom manager support yet so it doesn't work and cwm can fail if you are switching between cm7 and acs cwm will give you a md5 mismatch so I had to re flash acs then restore data. So use titanium to restore apps.
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Updated Radios

I flashed a new Radio, WiMAX, PRI & NV...the combo pack from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485&highlight=radio
My 4G no longer works. On that thread they say to update your profile if 4G is not working, which I did, and it still isn't. It will say that it is connecting to sprint, but then disconnects. This process repeats and never connects to 4G.
Next I tried flashing the earlier radio and wimax, but still no luck. Can anyone help me out??? Thank you.

First make sure your WIMAX keys are intact. You can install wimax checker from the market. It may be called something else, if you do a search it will come up.
If they are in tact, then flash the wimax update only, not the combo.
If they are not intact, then I hope you have a backup.
Edit: If you are attempting to connect, your keys should be fine. Did you change any WIMAX settings through ##3282#? If you had made changes before you updated, they might have been reset. I have to lower my dB level to be able to connect.

It says sorry your WiMAX RSA key is missing. So I need to restore one of my backup roms then?

Make sure you actually have 4G coverage too.
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Yes I have 4g coverage.

irl5fan said:
It says sorry your WiMAX RSA key is missing. So I need to restore one of my backup roms then?
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Yes, you will need to restore your wimax keys from a previous backup

Restored a previous backup and ran the key checker (still can't find them). So does this mean I have to get a new phone to get 4g back? Or does anyone have any tricks up their sleeve?

Is that the only backup you have?
Have you ever saved wimax when doing a nand?
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I have proably 4 different roms i've backed up since april. I have never specifically backed up WiMAX on its own (not sure I even know how?). So unless I did it mistakinly, I don't think so.

irl5fan said:
Restored a previous backup and ran the key checker (still can't find them). So does this mean I have to get a new phone to get 4g back? Or does anyone have any tricks up their sleeve?
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Install Terminal.
Launch the app.
Type in su
Press enter.
Type in wimax_mtd
Press enter.
You should get a series of of what looks like random data. Hopefully it doesn't state version error or it hangs. Afterwards, update your profile (make sure you disconnect your WIFI connection beforehand).

irl5fan said:
I have proably 4 different roms i've backed up since april. I have never specifically backed up WiMAX on its own (not sure I even know how?). So unless I did it mistakinly, I don't think so.
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What recovery are you using? You should be able to look at the nandroid files to see if the Wimax partition is included there. If you have never backed up the Wimax partition then there will be no way to get your keys back.
If you used Clockworkmod or Amon_RA you are looking for a backup that includes a wimax.img or wimax.xxxxxxxx.img (where xxxxxxx is some sort of identifier).
If you used twrp then it will be wimax.win.
the first thing that I did when I rooted my phone was to make a backup of the wimax partition and save it in several places so I would always be able to recover it if something went wrong.

the first thing that I did when I rooted my phone was to make a backup of the wimax partition and save it in several places so I would always be able to recover it if something went wrong.
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Highly recommend uploading it to your dropbox account

For real. I have mine saved in a few places, and i don't even get 4G here

Transfer data to replacement N4?

I am receiving a replacement N4 shortly, because the rubber band/border on mine somehow started bending or bowing out away from the phone. I am wondering what the best and fastest way to get my current setup to the new phone. Im assuming Nandroid should be best, but I would like to hear what the community has to say!

Carbon Backup

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Carbon Backup
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Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping to be able to restore my apps, data, and CM10.1 ROM with settings all at once, that is why I was thinking nandroid. This carbon app is definitely nice but still seems like it would take too long. I want to root my new device, install CWM recovery, and get right back to where I am. If nandroid doesnt work i will use this.
How can I grab my nandroids off of my device?

crackmulah said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I was hoping to be able to restore my apps, data, and CM10.1 ROM with settings all at once, that is why I was thinking nandroid. This carbon app is definitely nice but still seems like it would take too long. I want to root my new device, install CWM recovery, and get right back to where I am. If nandroid doesnt work i will use this.
How can I grab my nandroids off of my device?
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Yeah in your case a nandroid would be the way to go. However I would recommend getting the new radio and bootloader from 4.2.2 on your new phone first.
Your nandroid will be located in /data/media/ then whichever folder correlates with your recovery. Clockworkmod or twrp.
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El Daddy said:
Yeah in your case a nandroid would be the way to go. However I would recommend getting the new radio and bootloader from 4.2.2 on your new phone first.
Your nandroid will be located in /data/media/ then whichever folder correlates with your recovery. Clockworkmod or twrp.
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so would you suggest that I restore from my nandroid then upgrade my radio and bootloader? I should probably be able to find them on xda somewhere right? (instead of having to pull them off phone)
also , what would be the best way to get to the /data/media part of my phone since it isnt supported with Android File Transfer (im on mac)?
and it has been such a long time since i have needed to do a nandroid, does it include what is on my External Storage part of phone (the part that you can access with AFT)? Or will I have to save that stuff to my comp seperately, and then transfer to new phone?

Best way to backup and restore?

I broke my phones screen, I have the best buy replacement plan, its also rooted, what's the easiest way to dump my phone and restore it to the new one?

I backed up with twrp, does it work to just restore data on the new phone?

Kitteh298 said:
I backed up with twrp, does it work to just restore data on the new phone?
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As long as it's the same phone you are getting and same recovery too. I've done it before on the s3.
If that doesn't work you could use a app like titanium backup or rom toolbox to back up your apps then restore them on the new phone.
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I actually think I tried it and it ended up having numerous force closes and crap like that. I think I'll try titanium.

I've got my internal storage backed up to the SD card, a titanium backup, and a twrp backup. I'll probably just use titanium.