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just got a vibrant....oh my where to start! :)

Got a Vibrant yesterday to "try out" the android world for the first time. Must say I'm impressed by the phones performance out of the box even with all the bloatware and crap on it. I've been a windows mobile guy for quite some time now, so the people that know both platforms well, know they are two completely different monsters. My two options were the hd2 (since i know the WM world pretty well) or learn a whole new platform with the vibrant.
I like it so far, but also miss some of the things from WM (or rather miss knowing my phone well). I guess i just have to start from zero and get acquainted with it first.
Any suggestions on getting the bare down scoop of the platform and such as far as learning it from the ground up? The sticky explains how to do these things, but I need something more basic...I just wanna become proficient in the android world as I am in the WM world starting from zero.

Its hard to say where to start, the best thing about android is the customization. Playing with phone is the only way you are gonna learn, I have been an android owner since day one and am still learning new things everyday. If there is something I don't know I simply come here since this is the best android community on the web. Hope you enjoy IMO the best android phone on the market.
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Yeah, really not that much to help with...everything seems pretty intuitive to me. When in doubt, long press or press menu.

My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p

phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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Well, kindle isn't that bad considering you can get a ton of free books for it.
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phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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Well, you could always copy Avatar onto a larger card and then go wild! That's what I did, it will play lots of 720p mkv's that you might have laying around no problem!

Long press and menu are your friends. Other than that look here on xda and use the search function. The stickies typically have the most current info.
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phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
That's where I started off, you're most likely going to want to root it. Search the forums around. There's some great stickies to follow by and just go with that.
Can't wait for CM? Learn to make your own APP to have fun with ;p
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what is CM?
I am a programmer by profession. Maybe I could look into the world of android programming too while im at it

phragg said:
My first questions were always like:
Sweet I have Avatar on here, what else Can I put on?
Oh damn, there's only a 2GB Card, and if I remove it, I lose Avatar.
WTF is amazon kindle for? I don't need this? How can I remove Bloats?
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I didn't have those questions. I mean the first thing i did was move avatar to my 16gb msdhc into it and go wild with my music, photo, and videos...which I'm amazed how good of sound/video quality i get on this.
I thought more of like where do how do I view flash websites, how do i stream live .pls live music streams, or smaller things like hiding apps from the notification area at the top left when they are running, or resizing certain widgets, removing some of the applications that came with the phone from t mobile, mapping buttons to do different things based on holding them down or tapping a certain amount of times, things like that that aren't explained in the user manual. Or even like right now, I'm trying to make a call and it says: "Call not sent"...well? whyyyyyyyyy? so many questions!
I don't know, I guess all this is just part of the familiarization process and will sooner or later find them out whether by experience or hunting down resources why certain behaviors and actions happen.

speoples20 said:
Long press and menu are your friends. Other than that look here on xda and use the search function. The stickies typically have the most current info.
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what is long press?

^ you should read the sticky. A lot of the things you mentioned, are addressed in the sticky.
Also, flash is only on Android 2.2, which we do not have yet.

achild said:
Got a Vibrant yesterday to "try out" the android world for the first time. Must say I'm impressed by the phones performance out of the box even with all the bloatware and crap on it. I've been a windows mobile guy for quite some time now, so the people that know both platforms well, know they are two completely different monsters. My two options were the hd2 (since i know the WM world pretty well) or learn a whole new platform with the vibrant.
I like it so far, but also miss some of the things from WM (or rather miss knowing my phone well). I guess i just have to start from zero and get acquainted with it first.
Any suggestions on getting the bare down scoop of the platform and such as far as learning it from the ground up? The sticky explains how to do these things, but I need something more basic...I just wanna become proficient in the android world as I am in the WM world starting from zero.
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Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.

SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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haha that seems to be a problem with any gps enabled phone nowadays. Happened with the fuze and after months and months of tweaking and tweaking we got a hang of it. I tried the GPS yesterday on my way home from work yesterday and did not get a lock, i went ahead and downloaded gps test today to see if that will unlock it before using the gps software. We shall see! Thanks for the heads up tho!
edit: I guess gps test on android works differently than on WM. On WM it scans through your COM ports and gets a fix for you to then use your gps navigation software.

achild said:
what is CM?
I am a programmer by profession. Maybe I could look into the world of android programming too while im at it
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please do!
we could always use more programmers.

achild said:
what is long press?
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Instead of tapping on something you hold your finger down for a few seconds. A menu will pop up giving you options like copy and paste.
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If your phone won't play a video format, try RockPlayer
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I would recommend the market as the first place to go. Just start searching and downloading apps and play with your phone. You'll get accustomed to it very quickly!

Droidicus said:
I would recommend the market as the first place to go. Just start searching and downloading apps and pay with your phone. You'll get accustomed to it very quickly!
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Yeah thats what ive been doing. Thats another thing that amazes me about android, soooo many apps, and they are all centralized into one easy, convenient location. In wm you would find a few in the marketplace, and the rest u had to hunt down either on the forum or the web. This is slowly growing on me
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Coming from WM myself, (and just recently and very reticently turned over my beloved Wizard to my mom) the fun and unfun I have with Android:
Apps are so dratted cheap. Have at it.
Cloud connectivity. I use Picasa all the time now. It took me a while to get used to Google contacts, especially first name alphabetization, but I like it now.
You might want to look at subscribing to CompanionLink. It reliably syncs everything Outlook with your Google account (thus your phone).
Almost nothing was built into Android 1.0. Not much was added through 1.5. Some stuff has been added since, like Facebook sync, but custom ROMs don't add stuff. There's an app for everything. There has to be.
The app drawer is a hassle. I use FolderOrganizer (and ADW Launcher) to quell my addiction to organization beyond alphabetical.
It's fun to watch a few things catch up with WinMo and hear all the Android users brag about how great it is. Like app-specific auto-rotation. There's an app for it out now, but it actually costs something you'll think about, and it eats a hunk of RAM. They're just getting into animated GIFs. Lists and their apps aren't anywhere near ListPro, but they almost all have some way to sync to the cloud.
Office documents created on a PC don't always work with the Office apps that are out there. Don't bother with DocumentsToGo, but Sheadspreet is good (you have to convert first) and I'm trying OfficeSuite, and it seems the best. 30-day trial, $15. It's still not WinMo, though.
For those things you don't sync with the cloud, you can't just throw stuff in your My Documents Folder and rely on that backup. DropBox is a good app/service, and GoogleDocs is your friend. Most apps back up thier specific data to your SD, but on this phone, it's on the internal SD. You have to manually handle your backups, or do Nandroid backups (another worthwhile Google).
You have to install an app to install apps not from Market. Instead of exes their apks.
There's no Total Commander. I like Root Explorer. Astro is feature-filled. There are a million file explorers, and every one of them will have its advocates.
Flashing ROMs is tons easier, but you have to root first.
The Android world moves a lot faster. If you're off the forums for a week you'll feel like you've been in a coma for months. On the flip side, if you're waiting for something to get developed, waiting a few days feel like eternity.
Android devs work harder for a lot less, or no money; it's truly inspiring.
Before you go buying the first app that does what you want, check Market for more that do the same thing. I've found that there's a free alternative to almost everything. The paid versions/apps are more luxurious in one way or another, usually, but a little research can save you a bunch of regret.
Widgets suck RAM. Before you know it you've got 25 and you're wondering why your Home screen is lagging. Phones are finite. Even these.
CM is CyanogenMod. Google it, it's worth it. They started on XDA and it got out of control, so they have their own site now, although the threads still hanging on XDA re CM are a much more interesting read. It seems to be the most popular set of ROMS for a variety of devices. I follow and flash them (the ROMs, that is. I dont want the devs to hate me).
Double entendres are rampant. It's Google.
Once you get your apps organized, you'll be surprised at how smoothly your phone useage goes. Frankly, it's just more fun, and much cheaper, to play with.

SamsungGalaxySVibrant said:
Congrats on your new phone. Let us know how your GPS works, since that seems to be a hot issue. you can test using google maps, google navigation and GPS Test downloadable from the Android Market.
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Tested it. Google maps got no lock. However, gps test gave me 3 satellites, when I held it in front, under the windshiels it jumped to five satellites, but it wasn't enough for google maps to lock or get my location.
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[Q] first smart phone. very lost

1)whats the best rom?
2)how do i get all this bing crap off here and make this look like an android phone and not an iphone
3)root?
4)video game roms? SNES? PS1 or two? quake or similar games?
5) interesting thing happened when i first used the phone right after i bought it. i went to google and searched a store. clicked on the map. after 15 seconds, boom, it would just keep returning to applications tab. as if you hit the return led button. did it like 15 times. went home shut it down and turned it back on and it stopped doing it. should i be concerned?

fupamobile said:
1)whats the best rom?
2)how do i get all this bing crap off here and make this look like an android phone and not an iphone
3)root?
4)video game roms? SNES? PS1 or two? quake or similar games?
5) interesting thing happened when i first used the phone right after i bought it. i went to google and searched a store. clicked on the map. after 15 seconds, boom, it would just keep returning to applications tab. as if you hit the return led button. did it like 15 times. went home shut it down and turned it back on and it stopped doing it. should i be concerned?
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1. Try them until you find one you like.
2. Google.
3. Allows you to do awesome things. Also google.
4. Snesoid, Nesoid, Psx4droid.
5. If it doesn't do it again don't worry about it.

gardndj said:
1. Try them until you find one you like.
2. Google.
3. Allows you to do awesome things. Also google.
4. Snesoid, Nesoid, Psx4droid.
5. If it doesn't do it again don't worry about it.
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thanx dude!!

Don't root until you are familiar with the phone
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bomber889 said:
Don't root until you are familiar with the phone
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I second that. Learn everything you can before rooting. Unlike your dumbphones you can permanently break your smartphone if you're not careful with root access. Rooting is like jailbreaking an iphone, it voids your warranty and good luck getting support from big red afterwards.
If you just want to change the look of the interface, try a new launcher from the market. Launcherpro and adw are great places to start.

I agree with the idea of not rooting without proper knowledge, however if u want to save a little time u can use z4 root in the market
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theraptscallion said:
I second that. Learn everything you can before rooting. Unlike your dumbphones you can permanently break your smartphone if you're not careful with root access. Rooting is like jailbreaking an iphone, it voids your warranty and good luck getting support from big red afterwards.
If you just want to change the look of the interface, try a new launcher from the market. Launcherpro and adw are great places to start.
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There have been several people that have had there phones replaced after rooting. The same was said about flashing winmo phones and look at how many touch pros were replaced. It really isn't an issue and I don't know of anyone that was turned down from replacing there phone in the years I was a tp user.
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Mylt1 said:
There have been several people that have had there phones replaced after rooting. The same was said about flashing winmo phones and look at how many touch pros were replaced. It really isn't an issue and I don't know of anyone that was turned down from replacing there phone in the years I was a tp user.
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ya. i already rooted the phone. i think. i followed this guide here: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sa...ent/79811-newbie-guide-rooting-fascinate.html
everything seemed to go fine. but i dont know how to check if the root was successful.
i also got clockworkmod rom manager but i am having trouble getting it to work like it says here:http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
i get stuck at the backup faze. im going to have to make a new thread about it.

Unfortunately you can't just install ROM Manager and have CWM magically be there. You have to flash CWM thru Odin, which you can find all the instructions in the development forum

Super Content With the (m)Atrix ; )

Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4

Good to see positive things about the atrix!
I love this phone as well its greatly sized and the screen is really nice and the haptic feedback is phenominal. The speed goes without saying and the battery life is good too.
So glad I switched from an iphone 4
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I agree, it was a great movie.

pzaragoza1 said:
Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4 <if you know the right things to do to make it so- and yes I've had one> tethering, apk powerhouse, webtop ready, rooted monster. We should all enjoy the speed of this phone, as well as its capabilities. I don't like to change roms and all that because of bad experiences, and I feel like I've done all that I can. Just wanted to share with you guys my story, and hopefully encourage utilizing what these great devs have created for us.
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I was like you when i first got my HTC Inc, i was able to root it and all and then do other kewl stuff with it. But when i attempted to install a rom on it, with no research done before hand as to how to properly do so, it really threw me for a loop for a good month before i actually started "asking" people for help on the forums. Overall, everyone was pretty responsive and quite helpful, so i encourage you to try out some of the psuedo-roms available. There are three thus far and they're called psuedo roms because our Atrix bootloaders are still locked, so until it's unlocked we can only make minor changes to the framework of the phone.
If you need any help as to how you can install any of the three available roms, here are some links that will prove quite valuable in your quest to further enhancing the aesthetics and functionalities your phone.
1. This link will help you get your phone rooted and retained after the update . But since you already have it rooted and updated, then you can immediately proceed to Part 3!
2. This link is for the GingerBlur v1.3 psuedo-rom.
3. This link is for the GreyBlur v2.1 psuedo-rom.
4. This link is for the GladiAtrix2 v4.2.3 psuedo-rom and it also has instructions on it =P
Of the three, i've only tried GingerBlur and GreyBlur and haven't had time to get around to GladiAtrix2 yet, but the ones i did try are both great. If i had to recommend one for you, i'd say go with GreyBlur just because of my personal preference, i like the theme and icon set better than the stock and GingerBlur ones.
Another great reason to try the Blur Rom series is that both roms have a "Blocked Advertising" feature! In short, if you have apps that give you pop-up ads, they'll be gone! And probably the one app you'll appreciate this the most for is YouTube, because you won't have those 15 second ads anymore =]
If you need any other help, don't be afraid to ask, the XDA community is very open and responsive =] Btw, glad to see you're enjoying your Atrix, it is truly a great device!

TfzSCVang said:
I was like you when i first got my HTC Inc, i was able to root it and all and then do other kewl stuff with it. But when i attempted to install a rom on it, with no research done before hand as to how to properly do so, it really threw me for a loop for a good month before i actually started "asking" people for help on the forums. Overall, everyone was pretty responsive and quite helpful, so i encourage you to try out some of the psuedo-roms available. There are three thus far and they're called psuedo roms because our Atrix bootloaders are still locked, so until it's unlocked we can only make minor changes to the framework of the phone.
If you need any help as to how you can install any of the three available roms, here are some links that will prove quite valuable in your quest to further enhancing the aesthetics and functionalities your phone.
1. This link will help you get your phone rooted and retained after the update . But since you already have it rooted and updated, then you can immediately proceed to Part 3!
2. This link is for the GingerBlur v1.3 psuedo-rom.
3. This link is for the GreyBlur v2.1 psuedo-rom.
4. This link is for the GladiAtrix2 v4.2.3 psuedo-rom and it also has instructions on it =P
Of the three, i've only tried GingerBlur and GreyBlur and haven't had time to get around to GladiAtrix2 yet, but the ones i did try are both great. If i had to recommend one for you, i'd say go with GreyBlur just because of my personal preference, i like the theme and icon set better than the stock and GingerBlur ones.
Another great reason to try the Blur Rom series is that both roms have a "Blocked Advertising" feature! In short, if you have apps that give you pop-up ads, they'll be gone! And probably the one app you'll appreciate this the most for is YouTube, because you won't have those 15 second ads anymore =]
If you need any other help, don't be afraid to ask, the XDA community is very open and responsive =] Btw, glad to see you're enjoying your Atrix, it is truly a great device!
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Thank you so much for such a great response to my post! I will definitely look more into the psuedo roms. Thank you for the links. I enjoy this phone very much and I would love to make it even better. Oh and happy easter!
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pzaragoza1 said:
Hey guys, just wanted to express my love for the phone and let you know some things I did, that you could do too in order to love your beast a little more.
First off, I rooted at 1.26 and then updated and rooted again at 1.57 (used the root that says you need to root before going to 1.57)
Second, I got several mischievous mods and fun stuff that rooters can only have. (This alone made my phone twice as good...cough...tethering apk..cough...can't say what else)
Third, after figuring out how to make the battery run good, I downloaded a bunch of music and just enjoyed the sweet super loud speaker (covered) while I took a nice hot shower.
Lastly, and this took a while to figure out due to the fact that im no dev. I located on the android dev page the webtop via hdmi and made it so I could do just that. I tried doing the whole adb thing, I tried my own way with root explorer and the installer for 1.26. But nothing worked except for the 4.1.57 (w/chinese font fix) one. I highly recommend it! Go check it out!
Overall, I have a super fast (faster than the iphone 4 <if you know the right things to do to make it so- and yes I've had one> tethering, apk powerhouse, webtop ready, rooted monster. We should all enjoy the speed of this phone, as well as its capabilities. I don't like to change roms and all that because of bad experiences, and I feel like I've done all that I can. Just wanted to share with you guys my story, and hopefully encourage utilizing what these great devs have created for us.
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Yea I'm loving my mARIX to. Too bad the Matrix is an old Pantech phone from 2008 (the one that could slide out the keypad and the keyboard at the same time)
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BravoMotorola said:
Yea I'm loving my mARIX to. Too bad the Matrix is an old Pantech phone from 2008 (the one that could slide out the keypad and the keyboard at the same time)
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Ha! I missed that completely. However, I was embarrassed for about a millisecond because I realized this phone could be called the matrix. So if you were trying to make fun of me, im sorry but you have instead made me realize that calling it the matrix is far better than the atrix. I will change the name so others could know which phone I was talking about, but I will now dub thus beast the matrix. Thanks buddy!
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sgtmedeiros said:
So glad I switched from an iphone 4
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I switched from an iPhone 3G, needless to say I love this phone.

UPDATE: Root for [Sprint, CDMA] Tab w/ Gingerbread 2.3.4 + Extras

Update:
Looks like they've got root running over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161033
Flash using ODIN, super easy!
GTALK with Video! See this post! Super easy install!:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/339390/r1-12-may-google-video-talk-installer/#entry0
If anybody knows of a way to get the crt animation going that they seemed to have removed for the tab, please post or pm! Thanks!
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Don't see a post for this, maybe this is dumb, but good to have this information east at hand for others. Please inform me if I'm wrong of if any progress is made (hopefully soon!)
There is currently no exploit out to root the Sprint Tab on 2.3.4
Super One Click Root will not work, even with GingerBreak, nor will z4root
Looking forward to some sweet progress tho!
If only I were a dev...

The phone call function is even more important for me, but seems no replacement of original phone*.apk from other devices is available now.

theamazingaustin said:
Don't see a post for this, maybe this is dumb, but good to have this information east at hand for others. Please inform me if I'm wrong of if any progress is made (hopefully soon!)
There is currently no exploit out to root the Sprint Tab on 2.3.4
Super One Click Root will not work, even with GingerBreak, nor will z4root
Looking forward to some sweet progress tho!
If only I were a dev...
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Read this.

TheATHEiST said:
Read this.
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You know were in general right?
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akmzero said:
You know were in general right?
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Because the topic has been moved

The only thing I was using root for was to remove the annoying startup and shutdown videos. There aren't any great ROMs for the Sprint Tab, and the OEM build is pretty solid, so I don't think root access is a big deal for many users at the moment.

etvaugha said:
I don't think root access is a big deal for many users at the moment.
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I wish people would stop passing their own opinions as that of "many users".
Titanium backup, Google Talk with video, AdFree Android, Chainfire3D, drocap2... Shall I go on listing awesome and invaluable apps that require root access?

Has anyone else seen this.
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-root-samsung-galaxy-tab-on-android-2-3-3-gingerbread/
I have not tried it just came accross it. I only got Gingerbread running a few minutes ago.\
Edit: This is for Android 2.3.3 and NOT the current Sprint update of 2.3.4.

I'm hoping for a custom kernel with root and CWM soon, and I'd help expedite the process if someone needs a tester. Or even someone to do all the work (as long as there's some direction, i know i could manage to piece things together and compile it, i just suck with actual pure coding)
missing my Ti Backup and others as Chahk mentioned.

Next time use search before you post a question.
It was on the front page of general:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1157064

I think it doesn't help that sprint's tab isn't very popular and doesn't have the developers like the GSM does. I know nothing about it but I would guess that even though people are developing roms, that finding a root exploit is a completely different animal. I'm guessing since 2.3.4 isn't on a lot of phones yet doesn't help.

Chahk said:
I wish people would stop passing their own opinions as that of "many users".
Titanium backup, Google Talk with video, AdFree Android, Chainfire3D, drocap2... Shall I go on listing awesome and invaluable apps that require root access?
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Sorry...I didn't mean to bother you. I've been reading some of the GB threads over the past couple days and it seemed to me that most people weren't that bummed about losing root for the time being, myself included. I could definitely be wrong, which is why I said "I don't think". Again, sorry if I bothered you with the post.

The biggest thing I miss is tethering from the phone.

Chahk said:
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If youre on Gingerbread, root access isnt that important to you.
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I'm going back to 2.2 until root is achieved for 2.3.4. I mainly got the tab so I could tether on the go. Having to find wifi while out and about when you want to get online is difficult sometimes. If you're lucky to find open and free, many times they have ports blocked. You can only 80 or 8080. I've got wd live and roku and boxee for Netflix and crap.

im definately frustrated i dont have root. i want to put some apks in system/app and cant through crippled file explorers. also, i want to start pushing out some themes. the SGT has gotten little love and that needs to change. i was holding out on FROYO cause i knew it wouldnt be long till everyone was on GB. ive been talking with DRockstar about getting a cwm put together specifically for the SGT and that should get things rolling.
please give me your feedback.

Chahk said:
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All those, plus I really miss Root Explorer. Guess we're just being picky, by what some are concluding here...

toonvox said:
All those, plus I really miss Root Explorer. Guess we're just being picky, by what some are concluding here...
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Not at all. Those are great tools and I will be running them again on my Tab once an exploit is discovered. But for the time being, not having those tools doesn't really affect my day to day use of the device much. That includes listening to Slacker, using Facebook, email, browsing, Qik video chat, Netflix, etc. There are a lot of people like me who like the power that comes with root, but not having it for a few weeks or even months isn't going to kill them.

etvaugha said:
Not at all. Those are great tools and I will be running them again on my Tab once an exploit is discovered. But for the time being, not having those tools doesn't really affect my day to day use of the device much. That includes listening to Slacker, using Facebook, email, browsing, Qik video chat, Netflix, etc. There are a lot of people like me who like the power that comes with root, but not having it for a few weeks or even months isn't going to kill them.
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so you are using netflix now?

etvaugha said:
Not at all. Those are great tools and I will be running them again on my Tab once an exploit is discovered. But for the time being, not having those tools doesn't really affect my day to day use of the device much. That includes listening to Slacker, using Facebook, email, browsing, Qik video chat, Netflix, etc. There are a lot of people like me who like the power that comes with root, but not having it for a few weeks or even months isn't going to kill them.
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One of the first things I did with root was adjust the pixel density in the build.prop file so the icons didn't look so cartoonish. If the GB update breaks that and I can't fix it, then it might kills me. With the larger icons, the Zeam launcher doesn't even look right at all.

What about a "media player" ROM?

Along with many others, I am moving on from my still perfectly usable EVO. I have a daughter who wants an ipod touch and I was thinking of converting the EVO. Since she wants the ipod, I was thinking of MIUI with the phone components stripped out. I don't have the skill to hide everything (nor the time to learn). But, I would think basics could be done by most of us...unless there is someone with that skill, and more interest than just me in this becoming a ROM.
ROM or not ("not" meaning a one off that I do for my use), the EVO will be a more than suitable mobile media/game machine as it's been for me since launch day. Anyone else done this?

MIUI I would think. Use Root Explorer to rip our the phone stuff and other .apk you don't want. Leave in Market and maybe Amazon Appstore so she can get games and music
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uniquenameevo said:
Along with many others, I am moving on from my still perfectly usable EVO. I have a daughter who wants an ipod touch and I was thinking of converting the EVO. Since she wants the ipod, I was thinking of MIUI with the phone components stripped out. I don't have the skill to hide everything (nor the time to learn). But, I would think basics could be done by most of us...unless there is someone with that skill, and more interest than just me in this becoming a ROM.
ROM or not ("not" meaning a one off that I do for my use), the EVO will be a more than suitable mobile media/game machine as it's been for me since launch day. Anyone else done this?
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Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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That is what my old Hero is essentially used for. I did not remove anything but I just installed CM7 and we keep it in Airplane Mode with (Wifi on) and my son uses it to play games.

ckoadiyn said:
Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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Don't take offense to this...but is what you asked not a bit like "why customize, it already works"?
I figured I would modify it to suit it's use.

ckoadiyn said:
Why not leave the phone stuff in it wouldn't hurt anything I don't think
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Exactly. If the phone is taken off the account it wont work a phone anymore since Sprint towers won't allow it to make or receive phone calls so it could be considered a mini tablet at that point (powerful mini tablet tho). If your daughter needs to make purchases she can use the wifi radio to connect to the internet.
The other option is to disable the radio... there is an app on the market called network that will allow you to control if you want the CDMA radio to work... you could install the app, disable the radio and then remove the app. This way IF you ever need a spare phone you can revert the process and have the CDMA radio back online.
As far as removing the phone apks... I have seen many threads that indicate that doing such thing might be a bad idea since most seem to bootloop when they are removed. It make sense that it does, after all the EVO is a phone.

uniquenameevo said:
Don't take offense to this...but is what you asked not a bit like "why customize, it already works"?
I figured I would modify it to suit it's use.
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I understand was just saying either way if u do get something you could post it lol
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fenixjn said:
As far as removing the phone apks... I have seen many threads that indicate that doing such thing might be a bad idea since most seem to bootloop when they are removed. It make sense that it does, after all the EVO is a phone.
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This. I once accidentally deleted the phone apk with root explorer and everything went to hell. Had to pull the battery and do a nand restore. Although, I'm sure if you had a ROM that was designed to operate without a phone apk, it would work just fine. Tablets don't have them.
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MIUI is perfect for this.
I don't think I will even have to "remove" core parts (wasn't concerned since I have a nandroid of synergy from last night), just hide them. I would have liked using this before, but the 4G was a killer for me...until now.