Hello my name is Suarezn and I'm a Flashoholic...S U A R E Z N...
All,
In an ideal world I could have my cake and eat it too. That means I would have a combination of Sense widgets (clock, weather, text to speech that works, 4G, etc) some AOSP features and some of the MIUI stuff (Theme manager, lock screens, visitor mode, etc). I was in MIUI, but it was so darn laggy on my phone that I ended up going back to a Froyo ROM (Koni's Elite) can't wait until these guys start making GB based roms.
Anyhow, since these guys don't all work together I want to know if I can replicate some of these features in my current ROM. Specifically I really like the MIUI dialer and Yes I've tried several other ones (Dialer one, Youlu, Go, etc) and they're all decent, but what I'm looking for is one that has the functionality the MIUI one has when you're in a call (it shows several buttons...Bluetooth, add a call, merge calls, etc) All the other ones default to the sense style while in-call which lacks those features.
Secondly any way to have a MIUI style lock screen with it's own wallpaper and the features to show unread messages, missed calls, double tap and you have the music controls available, etc...
...and does anyone else besides MIUI have the Visitor mode feature? This is cool I think cause you can lend your phone to someone and they can't change anything or see your calls and messages.
I know people say that they're different frameworks, but I think it is possible to port these features (i.e. the MIUI music player is now ported to all these other ROMs).
Will I ever be able to have everything I want in a ROM...I keep my fingers crossed.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
No miui features will ever be able to be used on any other rom until the source is released (p.s. will never happen) yea the framework is completely different but would be able to port with source...same reason u will never see sense Widgets on anything other than sense...
The reason for the miui music is (I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure...) because the app was not built into the framework but just an app from the system/apps folder which can be.easily pulled...and thanks to the wonderful devs here got it working everywhere...I too wish for a sense.miui cyanogenmod mix but unfortantly without source..its like creating honeycomb aosp right NW...sry man
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The OP was looking for suggestions on apps and widgets that would emulate of give the same purpose. The above reply was of very little help. I really cant say about the the dialer but have you tried using widget locker? I believe someone made a MIUI lockscreen for it and I know for a fact at least you can have a separate wallpaper screen by using that.
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I don't think he was looking for alternatives...based off his last few sentences abt the music player the op wanted exact ports from one rom to the other and all I said was.it wasn't possible
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Things MIUI has that no other ROM has which is why I keep endng up back on it:
1. MIUI Launcher
2. By far the best dialer
3. By far the best native SMS (fully skin-able and tons of features)
4. Native usage monitor with throttling (disable data/text after x, solid history)
5. Native firewall app (that can block out/in by data type)
6. By far the coolest File Explorer (with built in wifi FTP, and indexed results)
7. Native backup/restore of apps and SMS
8. Native Theme system that includes launch screen
If those Chinese Devs would just man up and give us WiMAX this ROM would be without flaw. A man can dream ...
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I don't think he was looking for alternatives...based off his last few sentences abt the music player the op wanted exact ports from one rom to the other and all I said was.it wasn't possible
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Yea I see your point on that one! I didn't read it all the way thru my fault it was like a total 180 from how it was at the beginning.
Sorry if I didn't explain myself correctly...im0rtalz is correct. I know you can't currently port any of this from MIUI to a sense based ROM for instance, so I was looking for alternatives (apps or whatever) that could replicate it. I played with widget locker and it does give me some of the same functionality (actually more than MIUI). It's not as polished, but I can live with that. Now I only need some way to replicate the dialer (in-call options). I wonder if the reason why this is not done is because Sense doesn't allow it...just curious because it just seems like something a lot of people would want. The ability to add a call, merge calls, bluetooth on/off, etc..I know you can press menu and sort of get to the same options, but it's so much nicer to just have them right there in front of you.
Justin: You're correct those are killer features that I'm surprised other ROMs don't incorporate. The theme manager rocks...plus the ROM just looks much cleaner and more polished than others IMO.
Anyhow any help would be appreciated.
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I have been an Android user for several months now . I came over from Windows Mobile . One of the main reasons i came to Android was for the open source capabilities (which i suppose now were only in my head). I feel I could REALLY customize my WM phones. Through much work of course , but I really felt like they were MINE . This has not been the case for me thus for with my Moto Droid.
Sure , there are several home screen replacement apps out there , but they really all do the same thing , they all just put their own tweaks on the already "blah" UI . Dont get me wrong , I love my Droid , but there are some simply BEAUTIFUL themes and skins being made for other devices that we cannot come close to . There are Windows Phone 7 / Zune HD themes for iphone and windows mobile that are stunning . The only thing we have that is even kind of "outside the box" is Slidescreen Pro , which I am using now .
I suppose my question is why? Is the OS just too new for these kinds of things to be happening for us? Or are the devs anti everything but the Android look ? Have read a lot of people expressing interest in such themes , most are met with coy responses . Telling the thread starter to "buy an iphone" or get a "WP7 phone" . I love android , but i feel like Microsoft made a hell of an UI with their Zune HD / WP7 . I would like to see something like that for us Android users , instead of looking like SPB Mobile Shell that i was running on my WM phone 3 years ago haha .
If there are devs out there willing to work on this , I am more than willing to pay for it . Im sure other people would be willing as well . Im happy to drop a couple hundred bucks if we can get it off the ground and running . I put the EZune HD theme on my girlfriends iPhone the other day and was shocked at how awesome it was . Something must be done .. Thanks .
I agree with that. I thought that with android the UI customising will be much more easy and flexible and I expected to see a lot and different home replacements. But all are at the same pattern. The only app that I can compare with wm apps(wisbar advance desktop, pointui home, throttle launcher) is sweeter home, which unfortunately it's not so stable at this stage and a little heavy.
I would like to see more apps with this flexibility and ability to really change the look of android' s home screen.
And I think that generaly this happens in android developing. You can find a lot of apps of a kind but all looks and do almost the same things. I find more imagination and creativity in development of a close and unflexible OS as wm.
If you make one let me know
yes sweeter home has the most potential
sweeterskins.com
sweeterskins.net
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Gotta say , i heard of Sweeter Home and just kept on moving . I got it today and it really does have potential . Some pretty cool outside the box themes . Hopefully it picks up steam . Good call guys .
Not a complete replacement, and still lacks quite a number of features, but SlideScreen is pretty nice looking
yes , slide screen is my favorite by far...
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yes , slide screen is my favorite by far...
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They need to let you choose default apps, it keeps launching into the sense apps instead of Handcent, etc
the thing about sweeter home that is so cool is that is has a GUI system for creating themes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZwQez-dUdY
Are there any homescreens that are text-only? (looking for a terminal look, but not matrix)
ok they are really PNG's but the effect is the same. The 'text' can go over any background including live wallpaper.
I'm working on one now, some screenshots:
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They need to let you choose default apps, it keeps launching into the sense apps instead of Handcent, etc
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what do you mean by that? The only thing i have not been able to change what it launches is the twitter app .
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what do you mean by that? The only thing i have not been able to change what it launches is the twitter app .
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I set handcent as the default texting app, but it still opens the stock one.
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I set handcent as the default texting app, but it still opens the stock one.
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Make sure you're opening the handcent program itself. The icon for messages on the home screen is the shortcut for that program. Not always the shortcut for messages in general.
Also, go to application settings, find "messages" and click it to remove default settings. Now when you select handcent you should be able to chose it as default
More tests...
Do you think? what is your opinion?
looking good so far . I would like to learn how to make themes for sweeter home . Have some pretty good ideas , and lots of graphic designer friends . If i had the know-how , pretty sure i could pop out a really cool Windows Phone 7 skin .
It's not so hard. Sweeter home has a theme editor as part of the app. You can create a theme on the device. And there is a wiki with documentation on how you can make themes.
http://www.sweeterhome.com/
http://sweeterskins.net/
Here is a demonstration at MWC 2010 showing a suite of tools that allows you to design home replacements for Android:
Offsite link to electronics-videos.com
I hope that it is okay to post external links... ?
Mods please remove if needed
I would say that it adds potential to what Android could become...
L8r
don't forget to check out lemonnz's sweeter home videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lemonNZ
Hey,
I've had my Unlocked European HTC Hero since the first week it was released. Even though there was quite a delay in the release of 2.1 (non rooted), I'm pretty happy. Some interesting things:
1) I received the OTA notification at a time when I did not want to update so I chose to "update later." In order to force the update later, I set the clock forward as people suggested. That worked just fine and the phone updated no problem. However, the time was set back to 1980. It was at that point I noticed the Market wasn't working. Once I set the clock back to real time, it did work. Just a note in case you did that.
2) I was actually surprised that almost everything was retained during the upgrade. I have previously flashed with some of the 1.5 Roms (official only) and it always wiped out everything. Even all my apps remained installed, though quite a few needed updates
3) FINALLY the compass works in Google Maps. When the Hero first came out everyone complained that the iPhone compass worked (with Gmaps) but not on Android. I must have missed the announcement that it was now working on Android and what an awesome surprise.
4) FINALLY we have Google search by voice. I love it. However, I understand that you are supposed to be able to use voice as input for any text box (composing email, sms, etc). How do you do that? There is no microphone button available. Do I need an app?
5) Google navigation works like a charm although it seems a bit laggy. Sometimes I have already turned before the map moves. Still - very slick. One question: Where is Car Home?
6) I though there was supposed to be a nifty new 3D Gallery like Cool Iris. Where is that?
7) Voice Search is al little strange to me. The window with results is not really a browser. When you click on a result, it opens in a new window, which is nice. But , how do you get back to the search results? It is not one of the open windows?
All in all, pretty cool stuff.
5)car home is an AOSP thing, so it is not available on sense roms. instead you get an app called "navigator" which is similar.
6) Gallery 3d is also AOSP, and not in htc sense roms. It is however in pretty much all custom sense roms, such as villain 12.
I used the goldcard image to downgrade my tmobile and now have upgraded to official 2.1 rom. I have to say i'm quite underwhelmed with the upgrade. Google navigation is nice but does lag a little. I have to admit my hero does not appear much snappier than when it was running 1.5. On the plus side I don't have to see the annoying tmobile logo when the phone boots up.
CyberWalrus,
I'm not sure I understand AOSP? You mean it is a choice to not include those features?
You mentioned an app called "Navigator." I don't see that anywhere.
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CyberWalrus,
I'm not sure I understand AOSP? You mean it is a choice to not include those features?
You mentioned an app called "Navigator." I don't see that anywhere.
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stock, unmodified, pure android. The one that the nexus one, the G1, and the magic run. Gallery and Car home are features of AOSP android
HTC roms have HTC sense android. they dont have gallery 3d because htc presumably thinks its own "photos" app is better.
I am running villain 12, rather than the stock htc rom, so I have gallery 3d ported over anyway.
But the navigator app may be from the desire, and therefore only available on custom roms.
Seriously none of you are freaked out by the new bootscreen...
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It scares me!
Can anyone help me with issue 4? How do I use voice input for any text box?
AFAIK you can choose it as a keyboard type.
settings -> locale&text -> Touch Input -> keyboard types
But I think there is a button on the keyboard, which is to change settings. You could use that to change keyboard type.
But none of the keyboard types are "voice" or anything like that.
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But none of the keyboard types are "voice" or anything like that.
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I seem to remember that was one of the things that HTC were leaving out of their roms. Not sure if anyone on 2.1 on any htc handsets has it.
There may be an apk kicking around for it , but again, this is from a distant memory since it wasn't relevant for me as 2.anything was a distant dream for me at the time.
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Seriously none of you are freaked out by the new bootscreen...
It scares me!
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What boot screen is that? Where can I download the full version? Also, the bear seems to be a small mod right? Where can I get the original version?
You people looking for voice input in every textbox, you can install the HTC_IME Mod for that, it has the voice input button.
I'm also looking for the Navigation app, can't find it anywhere... Suggestions?
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Nazgulled you know what that bear stands for, right?
I suggest you not to put that onto your phone...
Not really, what does it mean?
But what about the original, without the bear?
He is called a Pedobear.
But DO NOT google it at work.
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He is called a Pedobear.
But DO NOT google it at work.
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Where can I find the original boot animation without the bear?
there's no keyboard calibration on my Asian Hero. email HTC support to check why and I was informed that this was really meant and no reason was given why it was removed. now i'm wondering how I can recalibrate my keyboard
Launchers of like Touchwiz, iPhone, MIUI and DELL android tablet use those squared backgrounds for the icons on their home screen.
I've searched XDA for a themer/dev who has done this but no luck.
People seem to rather remove the iPhone's icon style but I think it looks nice.
Now I want to achieve this effect on a Sense or non-Sense based ROM without photo shopping every icon.
So is there a way to mod a Standalone Launcher like LauncherPro or ADW to have this icon style?
I'd love to help if any dev wants to give this a shot.
Thanks.
I know there are roms with those iphone-style backgrounds... here is one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688687
*note this rom is only compatible with the eris* *it has been ported to other htc phones though*
Also the mytouch slide has bubbles behind each icon,
Also if you install touchwiz3.0 launcher (ripped from a galaxy s phone) it puts a random coloured sqaure behind each icon, im sure you can edit those square to have what you want
Edit: Those bubbles are what is featured above
Thanks for the replies, the thing is I want this effect on the HTC Desire which I have installed a Sense ROM (Froyo) on.
I would rather not which to another ROM just to have squared backgrounds.
This is why a Launcher would be the perfect solution.
I think the touchwiz3.0 launcher wouldn't work on my ROM but I'll try!
EDIT: I tried the touchwiz and it works! But the "bubbles" only show in the app drawer.
Here's a *.png of a square I made.
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download bettercut from the market, then download an iphone icon set from market and apply icons to whatever you want through bettercut.
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download bettercut from the market, then download an iphone icon set from market and apply icons to whatever you want through bettercut.
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That would leave me making icons for apps who don't have an iPhone icon.
I'm not looking for that kind of solution.
I want it to have a square behind every icon automatically so to speak.
The DELL tablet ROM and the MIUI ROM does exactly what I want but.
I looked to port it over but that wouldn't work as the whole thing is different.
I've been searching for the same thing, with no luck. The Touchwiz launcher only puts the icon backgrounds on the dock, like you said, and I can't find the modified launcher that the MyTouch 4G uses to put on my EVO.
I'm currently running MIUI, which is awesome, except my battery life is pretty terrible compared with the stock (or modified stock) Sense ROM.
I guess I'll keep searching, and if anyone has any more suggestions, please post them here.
ADWLauncher EX can do this. It's not free though. I am sure it is possible to code it into any Launcher, but how you do that is beyond my capabilities.
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ADWLauncher EX can do this. It's not free though. I am sure it is possible to code it into any Launcher, but how you do that is beyond my capabilities.
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Cool. Thanks!
Awesome! Just bought it, now I'm downloading the latest EViO ROM and dumping MIUI- the random restarts (although seldom), the wifi drops, and the terrible battery life unfortunately outweigh the really nice UI.
Hello,
i found this new:
MESSAGING app - redesigned, changable text size, filter to see just one number history for contacts that have more numbers...
CALENDAR - more views..
MAIL - i dont like new look, i can see just 4 e-mails without scrooling
SCREEN LOCK - very cool
GALLERY app - a LOT faster
CAMERA APP - faster
WATCH app
TASK MANAGER app
new widgets, wallpapers, themes, sounds...
Did you find something else? Impressions after update?
O RLY ?!
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Task manager built in, new screen to select method of connection to PC (icons with SD card etc), small animations when you turn on.off wifi etc from HTC widget, overall the shell is much faster....
I am VERY satisfied with this update, so much improvements....
Great thread !
The Weather App has some major changes I like the new TXT message app lots to explore keep the changes coming
I like being able to see mem usage from Quick Settings
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Big Changes to HTC Weather App
Lots of new lock screens
Enable power efficiency is that new ?
New Connection Type Screen
Multimedia volume is much louder I have noticed. Just feels snappier overall.
You can resize the mails, go to settings and make the preview body lines or something like that none, also make text size smallest, now you can see 7 mails or so.
Mail sounds like a little scary for a user like me who use it a lot for daily work.
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Just rebooted for the first time since the update
It plays a sound when its booting during the white screen with HTC quietly brilliant
Hopefully you can turn that off
First bug I've noticed is the second stage of the unlock screen when you draw a pattern to unlock the phone its not showing the background just a black screen, I'm sure it used to show the background image ? ?
Guys the Sense 3.0 has been out for a while. I think we all know the diffs. Nothing really new compared to the last 3 months.
zelendel there are lot users not as adventurous us, they stick to official updates without root and usually they stick around the general section
I was wondering if it is possible the home screen rotation as you can have with other launchers... I think this is the only thing missing
that's correct, i personally don't have time to play with ROMs and i need something stable and reliable as i use my phone for work generally.
and i know that there are a lot of others like me. i know u are all up to sense 4,0 and that this is old news for u i know this thread is funny for more "advanced" users but think it will be ok for us "inferior" users
@accesser - thanks for uploads and support
- we got officially screenshot feature (power button + home)
what do think of battery usage? i feel it lasts shorter, maybe cause i play with it more...
dhd - stock rom 2.3.5 sense 3.0
and my proximity sensor it's not working anymore. yey...
and a little improvement of battery usage
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that's correct, i personally don't have time to
@accesser - thanks for uploads and support
- we got officially screenshot feature (power button + home)
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Really ? neat I had no idea I was using screen shot app I'll try now I knew Android 4 had built in screen shot but not this edition
When I install skins from market, it is not showed in personalize->skins. There are only 3 default skins for HTC Sense 3.0. I've tried download skins from HTC Hub and that works correctly with no problems.
And I found out that all of NON-HTC skins aren't showed in skins option. If I install skin from HTC Hub, everything is OK, but when I install any skin for example from Android Market it's not showing in skins menu.
Can anyone help me
You can't install 3rd party skins yet due to the m10 tools not being updated. I've been waiting a while...
There's also a swipe function built into the text app.
And I believe the pattern lock screen has always had a black background on stock roms.
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Even sense 3.0 skins????!!!
Sent from my Desire HD
No. The recently released sense 3.0 roms for desire s and desire hd are a different resolution etc to the 3rd party made skins for sensation etc. Therefore they are not compatible and we have to wait for the m10 tools to be updated.
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And I believe the pattern lock screen has always had a black background on stock roms.
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Not sure about the other stuff, but I can confirm that the pattern lock screen does not have a black background on my current (stock) rom. I haven't got the upgrade yet, so it still has the same background as the home screen.
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zelendel there are lot users not as adventurous us, they stick to official updates without root and usually they stick around the general section
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I found my self a power user and I did not even bother to root it
Post up your wish-list of custom options for custom ROM's (non OP) and Kernels and I'll add them to the OP.
This is for options that you aren't finding in any ROM, or at least not in your favorite ROM.
Feel free to mention your current ROM if you like but this thread is NOT about which ROM is the best or your favorite.
Please don't turn it into that. :good:
I'll try to bold new suggestions every day or so till the thread gets tired.
*Ability to filter out specific notifications from appearing (ie: NotifyClean)
*Bring "only show running apps" option back to Slim Recents.
*Clearly mentioned in OP if rom supports encryption/decryption.
*Day/Night - Provide option to switch between two different Substratum themes at toggle of a button.
*Fix the earphone bug.
*Fully working OOS camera
*Now Playing features from Pixel 2 XL detect song from lockscreen via ambient
*Option to remove USB Debugging notification is missing on some newer ROM's.
*Ring on charge complete
*Vibration - Would like to have option for more than 100% vibration.
- Clearly mentioned in OP if rom supports encryption/decryption. That is not always the case and people ask many times in the same thread.
- Long press back to kill foreground app.
Fully working OOS camera times 100. Literally the only thing stopping me from switching from OOS betas. I'm aware of the Google Camera functionality and also about all its problems.
Ability to filter out specific notifications from appearing. For example, my wife and I 'share' an Amazon Prime Photos account. I don't want a 'Successfully uploaded photos from your 3rd device' notification every time she uploads something. But I don't want to mute notifications for the whole app (or sometimes even notification group) as I may not get the 'upload progress' notifications' anymore. The Xposed module Notify Clean was perfect pre-Nougat and AutoNotification works alright post-Nougat, but it would be nice if this was baked into the ROM.
OP updated.
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- Long press back to kill foreground app.
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Just FYI, this is already available in every custom ROM I've tried so far.
You just have to enable the navigation bar options and then go into the button editor. I set up all my ROM's with this. And set the home button to open camera on long press.
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The Xposed module Notify Clean was perfect pre-Nougat and AutoNotification works alright post-Nougat, but it would be nice if this was baked into the ROM.
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OMG, if NotifyClean ever gets updated for Oreo I will go back to using Xposed again.
I really miss that app and some of the others by that dev. :good:
Hello there,
First off, the only couple things that stopping me to move from stock to a custom rom is the OOS camera (as mentioned above) and mostly the earphone bug. The mic on the phone and the earphones seems to be activated during a call and it gets pretty annoying to hear an amplified background of your environment and the person's on the other end, seems like most custom roms have this problem.
I've also long wanted to see ''ring on charge complete'' on the OP5T.
Thank you for asking.
Sorry i know this feature is hard to make but Now Playing features from Pixel 2 XL detect song from lockscreen
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Sorry i know this feature is hard to make but Now Playing features from Pixel 2 XL detect song from lockscreen
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No what i mean is it detect song using ambient display it will display black screen with the title of the song
OP updated.
superviked said:
I've also long wanted to see ''ring on charge complete'' on the OP5T.
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I think this might be an option using Light Flow?
If you really want it then it might be worth looking into.
It does custom ringtones for certain actions.
And they can be backed up for ROM re-flashes as long as the ringtone is stored in the usual spot /system/media/sounds/etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rageconsulting.android.lightflow
To clarify my personal request here:
*Day/Night - Provide option to switch between two different Substratum themes at toggle of a button.
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A few ROM's provide built in day/night theme options.
But they don't theme apps like phone or calculator or anything else.
They only theme the settings and drop-down and a couple other things.
I want a nice non-tasker hack.
And would be willing to donate for it :lol: