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Is it scorpion or snapdragon? How is it compare to hummingbird processor?
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Snapdragon is the SOC, and Scorpion is the name of the CPU core. It's arm based like the hummingbird, and as far as I know, the performance is very similar (some +&- between the two)

Both are same, except the GPU part, Snapdragon MSM8255 which uses Adreno 205 GPU ( Adreno is a rebranded AMD Z430 originally developed by ATi as Imageon then AMD sold it to Qualcomm )... Hummingbird in the other hand uses the PowerVR SGX 540 GPU from Imagination Technologies...
from performance POV, PowerVR SGX 540 is a little bit faster than Adreno 205 ( over all performance, in some benchmarks the SGX 540 is notable faster like in GLBenchmark 2.0 ), but the CPU part of the hummingbird limit it's power, the same GPU when used in a dual core SOC like OMAP 4430 ( used in LG Optimus 3D ) performs better... just to note, Samsung used another SOC in Galaxy S2 that SOC uses a different GPU named Mali-400MP which is slower than SGX 540... but being a dual-core helps the Mali-400MP to be faster than SGX 540...

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HD2 CPU/GPU Query

I have a question regarding the Processor in the HD2, we all know that its a 1GHz Snapdragon but in real terms how does this compare to something like the 600Mhz OMAP processor in the N900?
I read that the N900 also has a GPU to go with the 600MHz processor, how is this different to what the HD2 does?
hmmm
im not sure but the diffrents is in the graphic chip,battary consomption,speed and thats it,iwill wait for the genius friends in the forum
chrism_scotland said:
I have a question regarding the Processor in the HD2, we all know that its a 1GHz Snapdragon but in real terms how does this compare to something like the 600Mhz OMAP processor in the N900?
I read that the N900 also has a GPU to go with the 600MHz processor, how is this different to what the HD2 does?
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Looking at the specs of the GPU which is a PowerVR SGX.
It is an opengl 2.0 compatible GPU and supports many other standards, it basically means it would run a larger array of programs with graphical attributes compared to other devices with just a CPU.
Now the HD2's snapdragon processor also supports OpenGl 2.0 so in theory the additional GPU in the N900 would be redundant if it were put into the HD2's circuitry.
On the other hand due to the fact that the 600MHz OMAP in the N900 doesn’t have support for things like opengl and other it makes a large improvement in performance just like a GPU does in a PC compared with integrated graphics. Personally without any tests I would say the snapdragon would still be faster as long as you were running something like FPU enabler to make sure all the instructions are there and supported by the OS which the N900 wouldn’t be able to support them instructions and would use much slower less efficient instructions.
Also the n900 is running a diffrent OS so it makes it very hard to compare.
for more info on snapdragon opengl support go here
Hope that helps
chrism_scotland said:
I have a question regarding the Processor in the HD2, we all know that its a 1GHz Snapdragon but in real terms how does this compare to something like the 600Mhz OMAP processor in the N900?
I read that the N900 also has a GPU to go with the 600MHz processor, how is this different to what the HD2 does?
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Snapdragon is not just a CPU, it's an entire chipset, including a GPU, wifi, GPS, etc.
The CPU component of Snapdragon is roughly the same speed as the OMAP CPU clock-for-clock, but obviously clocked a lot higher. The GPU is significantly less powerful than the PowerVR chip that is usually paired with OMAP processors (though I haven't actually checked if it's the one included in the N900).
Shasarak said:
The GPU is significantly less powerful than the PowerVR chip that is usually paired with OMAP processors (though I haven't actually checked if it's the one included in the N900).
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The N900 has a SGX 530 GPU which is slower than the 535 in the iPhone 3gs and also slower than the snapdragon's Z430 (It probably has drivers with functional vsync though)
christonabike said:
The N900 has a SGX 530 GPU which is slower than the 535 in the iPhone 3gs and also slower than the snapdragon's Z430 (It probably has drivers with functional vsync though)
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My apologies, should have looked it up.
don't know which z430 you've been using, but I am finding it utter crap.
Nintendo DS: 120,000 triangles/s, 30 M pixels/s
PowerVR MBX-Lite (iPhone 3G): 1 M triangles/s, 100 M pixels/s
Samsung S3C6410 (Omnia II): 4 M triangles/s, 125.6 M pixels/s
ATI Imageon (Qualcomm MSM72xx): 4 M triangles/s, 133 M pixels/s
PowerVR SGX 530 (Palm Pre): 14 M triangles/s, ___ M pixels/s
ATI Imageon Z430 (Toshiba TG01): 22 M triangles/s, 133 M pixels/s
PowerVR SGX 535 (iPhone 3GS): 28 M triangles/s, 400 M pixels/s
Sony PSP: 33 M triangles/s, 664 M pixels/s
PowerVR SGX 540 (TI OMAP4): 35 M triangles/s, 1000 M pixels/s
Nvidia Tegra APX2500 (Zune HD): 40 M triangles/s, 600 M pixels/s
ATI Imageon _ (Qualcomm QSD8672): 80 M triangles/s, >500 M pixels/s
I think it's safe to say that the Snapdragon performs admirably, but the SGX blows it out of the water.
aethelbert said:
Nintendo DS: 120,000 triangles/s, 30 M pixels/s
PowerVR MBX-Lite (iPhone 3G): 1 M triangles/s, 100 M pixels/s
Samsung S3C6410 (Omnia II): 4 M triangles/s, 125.6 M pixels/s
ATI Imageon (Qualcomm MSM72xx): 4 M triangles/s, 133 M pixels/s
PowerVR SGX 530 (Palm Pre): 14 M triangles/s, ___ M pixels/s
ATI Imageon Z430 (Toshiba TG01): 22 M triangles/s, 133 M pixels/s
PowerVR SGX 535 (iPhone 3GS): 28 M triangles/s, 400 M pixels/s
Sony PSP: 33 M triangles/s, 664 M pixels/s
PowerVR SGX 540 (TI OMAP4): 35 M triangles/s, 1000 M pixels/s
Nvidia Tegra APX2500 (Zune HD): 40 M triangles/s, 600 M pixels/s
ATI Imageon _ (Qualcomm QSD8672): 80 M triangles/s, >500 M pixels/s
I think it's safe to say that the Snapdragon performs admirably, but the SGX blows it out of the water.
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most of informations listed here are not true iphone 3gs tests shows only (7million triangles ) samsung omnia 2 (has 9 million triangles not 4 )
hoss_n2 said:
most of informations listed here are not true iphone 3gs tests shows only (7million triangles ) samsung omnia 2 (has 9 million triangles not 4 )
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The 7 million triangles/sec number was based on AnandTech's incorrect guess that the 3GS used a lower-end SGX instead of the SGX 535. Samsung initially specced the Omnia 2's GPU (an in-house project by Samsung) at 9 million triangles/sec but then revised it down to 4 million at launch.
Much more info here (see tables at the bottom in particular):
http://www.techautos.com/2010/03/14/smartphone-processor-guide/

mali-400 mp vs adreno 225

Hi I'm trying to decide between int version and US version and I'd like to know which GPU is the most powerful, I already know about dual core vs quadcore (dual core being slightly better than the quadcore version) Thanks
Some info in the links in OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635401

Samsung Galaxy s4 vs LG optimus G2?

Who do you think will win in better speed performance?
SGS4's Exynos 5 octa VS Snapdragon 800(rumored)? and
PowerVR SGX 544MP3 vs ADreno 330(rumored)?
That is a question for Dr Emmett Brown and Marty Mcfly.

Gt i9500 gpu

The Antutu Benchmark and quadrant standard benchmark test identify the gpu on my galaxy s4 gt i9500 as powervr sgx 544 mp. It should actually be powervr sgx 544 mp3. Is there a fault in my phone. Can anyone help me to identify the gpu correctly?. The phone is original with bill and not rooted. Pls help urgently. Thx.
Nothing's wrong with your phone. Stop trying to be so intrusive about petty details.
PowerVR SGX 544 Mp3 = PowerVR SGX 544 Mp in AnTuTu. The 3 signifies 3 cores in the GPU.
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Nothing's wrong with your phone. Stop trying to be so intrusive about petty details.
PowerVR SGX 544 Mp3 = PowerVR SGX 544 Mp in AnTuTu. The 3 signifies 3 cores in the GPU.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I just wanted to know why the Antutu does not show the 3. The Micromax Canvas HD also has a PowerVr SGX 544 MP and the same is shown by Antutu. I just wanted to know the difference as seen on Antutu or Quadrant apart from the benchmark scores

Does the Zuk have 64bit processor?

Curious to know and what verison of 801? AB AC or AA?
According to Zuk web page:
"CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8974AC"
http://www.zukmobile.cc/zuk-z1-u-touch-4g-lte-dual-sim-mobile-phone.html
According to the review from Android Authority on YouTube it's a 32bit processor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFnBdS5Sn1Q
MSM8974AC
(Snapdragon 801)
28nm LP
4 x Krait 400 2,45 GHz
Qualcomm Adreno 330 578 MHz
Dual-channel 32 bits LPDDR3 1.866
Source: http://www.xataka.com/moviles/qualc...a-de-64-bits-y-8-nucleos-snapdragon-610-y-615
So basically this has a better processor than the Oneplus X! apparently they are using the old AA version.
No 32 bit

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