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[Q] How to use Epic as mobile hotspot

Ok one of the reasons I mainly got this phone was the mobile hotspot feature because the internet at my college blows and it would be nice for everyone to be able to browse the internet in a single dorm and not just 2 people. Unfortunately Sprint has made it so this feature costs an addition 25 with your bill. I don't pay the bill so this isn't an option for me. I heard that if you root the epic, you can use the mobile hotpot feature for free. I haven't rooted it yet but I have the z4 root application on my phone. So how can I go about doing this?

Run z4root and then download and run wireless tether. Its not on the market so google it and you will find the latest version. I don't recall whether it will run on a stock kernel; if not you'll want to install a custom rom.
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It is usually usable only on the Eclair build when rooted. Sometimes not ;-)
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Ok I found a hit on google for wireless tether on google code. The only samsung glaxy device I saw said it ran on 1.5 but I'm on 2.1 so it should work right. I'm not sure if the device listed works with epic but it said galaxy device. Also will sprint notice the increase of data usage and charge me more?

Nope, unless you start dl movies.
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So standard internet browsing should be fine then?

Your expectations are unrealistic and this is a really easy subject to search for.

I don't unerstand how my expectations are unrealistic but thanks for the responses anyways.
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Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/

If you are on 2.1 the best way is to get clockwork (use the one click root) then find mobile ap in the dev section and apply the zip. Way more stable than wireless tether in my experience.
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Jayavarman said:
Here you. Root and wifi tether and other stuff all in one. Easy menu.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/epi...ecovery-2-04-for-windows-intel-mac-and-linux/
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Thanks much Jay. Gonna give that link the once over before I mess with the phone itself. Thanks ipaq as well. I'll check that out if I find any problems with the one in Jay's link.

Definitly if you are staying on stock rom, use mobile ap, it is soooooooooo much better then wireless tether, and if you follow my tutorial after rooting and getting clockwork first you can have themes with it too.

I think what he's trying to say about your expectations is you think you can do this and give everyone internet on your dorm. Do you know how slow that will run? Also you can only connect so many devices at one time. I don't know how many for wireless tether but mobile AP is 5. Yes wireless tether is a great feature its just not going to meet your expectations for helping a while dorm out.
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What college do you attend?

Am I missing the OP's question that Sprint called this device a mobile hotspot?? Is Sprint lying?

If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?

DangerZone1223 said:
If you don't pay the $30 a month charge for hotspotting, will Sprint find out and charge you any extra if you tether your phone after rooting it?
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Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.

If you have an epic 4g you have unlimited (truely unlimited) data...they are not going to say anything regardless of how much data you use. That being said spint will not Check the status of your phone (root or un rooted). You are go to go on tethering

davidrules7778 said:
Ive been tethering since i had windows mobile, and ive never been in trouble, just dont download movies or any other big files. I mean its not even worth it to download movies takes too long anyhow. Just dont take your phone in rooted with that app on it or then u might get into some trouble.
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Yeah, I don't plan on doing anything crazy like torrenting. I'd use this to tether my iPad if I'm in an airport or on a long trip, or maybe if I'm on vacation and don't wanna pay $10-30 for the hotel's wifi. That's all. Nothing mundo crazy where I'm using gigs of transfers.
Thanks for letting me know!

I have a question that I hope someone here can answer.
I've toyed with the idea of installing one of the hotspot programs. But, I'm very wary of surfing the Net without a NAT/firewall between my Windows box and the Net. Do these programs provide firewall-type protection to the machines that are surfing through them?
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EB01 WiFi Tether

Is it safe to tether with EB01?
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Probably just as safe as tethering with DL30

So no word of there is any way Verizon can tell I'm tethering and charge me exyra
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I'm wondering about this too.

Word in the news, I read msnbc. Is that with the new I phone out today, they plan on cutting bandwidth on the top 5% of the bandwidth "hogs".. Maybe this has something to do with their spy driver in froyo.? .not sure, just a thought
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I've have been wondering this as well, but I believe it is a function buried within the kernel so we may need to wait for the source.

I thought they needed the source to make a voodoo build...
I don't think that the tether spy has much to do with the data throttling since they can already see how much data we use.
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iTz Nicholas72 said:
Is it safe to tether with EB01?
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I asked this a few nights ago and the answer I got was: Yep, EB01 has the same sort of tether tracking in the kernel that DL30 had, so no it is not safe the tether with EB01 at this point.
Wait for Kernel source and give them some time to see if it can be ferreted out of there without breaking anything else.

Anyone got busted yet?

quarky42 said:
I asked this a few nights ago and the answer I got was: Yep, EB01 has the same sort of tether tracking in the kernel that DL30 had, so no it is not safe the tether with EB01 at this point.
Wait for Kernel source and give them some time to see if it can be ferreted out of there without breaking anything else.
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Noons knows if it is safe at this point but don't jump to not being safe so quickly. I am tethering with eb01 and was tethering wwithdl30. I wrote the thread o. How to hack the tethering app for Frito and will. Continue to test and keep people updated with my bill. I'm sure they wont charge you extra without signing up for anything. So if your not worried about a measly 30 bucks just do it for a month a see what happens but I don't think anyone will be charged. I myself believe this tracker is just to throttle data if your using to much. I have never encoured extra charges for tethering and don't expect to. I believe their system is not that advanced to where they can "flag" your account and charge you more. As I've been tettethering 15-30 gigs a month for a long time and nothing has ever happened. If you want to follow my thread go for it. Besides if your bill goes up for a month big deal just call and get it straightened out and stop tethering. I think any of us can afford another 30 bucks if we must on our allready expensive bills. At least then you'll know whether you can do it or not.

cory3122 said:
Anyone got busted yet?
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I think this will be the only real proof, and so far the answer seems to be no. So take that for what it's worth--too soon to tell or bogus? We'll just have to wait and see.
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cory3122 said:
Anyone got busted yet?
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No. And if anyone should. Its me.

Ive been tethering, no changes to my account so far... I used **usbui, changed to modem, then used qpst to change m.ip and hotspot works fine
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i have been tethering with both DL09 and eb01 with no messages from verizon.
My data use has when from about 2.5G ($30.00 for that) to around 6G. We will see if verizon comments.

They might not actually activate the snooping service until EB01 is actually released, since right now only testers should have it. Their datasnooping server might not even be operational!

iTz Nicholas72 said:
I thought they needed the source to make a voodoo build...
I don't think that the tether spy has much to do with the data throttling since they can already see how much data we use.
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I actually thought so too, but apparently JT only needs the source to apply the Voodoo sound & color fix. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950945

Mobile hotspot

I just tried to use the mobile hotspot feature and discovered that ATT expects me to pay a tethering charge (?!?). I didn't have to pay for it on my Tilt2. Does anybody have a work around? Another app perhaps?

psymont said:
I just tried to use the mobile hotspot feature and discovered that ATT expects me to pay a tethering charge (?!?). I didn't have to pay for it on my Tilt2. Does anybody have a work around? Another app perhaps?
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Go to page 2 or 3 there's a post with a bunch of stars on it.

Follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11493471&postcount=193

psymont said:
I just tried to use the mobile hotspot feature and discovered that ATT expects me to pay a tethering charge (?!?). I didn't have to pay for it on my Tilt2. Does anybody have a work around? Another app perhaps?
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THIS IS GETTING BAD!!! USE THE SEARCH OPTION. I mean come on this has been handled quite a few times in the first FOUR DAYS since this phone has come out.

Noodles5666 said:
THIS IS GETTING BAD!!! USE THE SEARCH OPTION. I mean come on this has been handled quite a few times in the first FOUR DAYS since this phone has come out.
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I did use the search option. It didn't come up. Ill admit I didn't go 4 pages deep reading threads. Will do next time though.

psymont said:
I did use the search option. It didn't come up. Ill admit I didn't go 4 pages deep reading threads. Will do next time though.
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Follow my link.

neer2005 said:
Follow my link.
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Thanks so much. Works perfectly now. Thanks again.

Webtop without tethering?

Hey guys sorry if this question has been answered but is there anyway to get the webtop to work without tethering? Thanks a lot guys.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Noob gets pwned by another noob.
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Read the damn sticked noob guide. There's a link to webtip hack :/
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Noob gets pwned by another noob.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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I have read that webtop should work when you are on wifi, but that's just what I've heard since I don't use it. If you're trying to use it while on AT&T's data network then, yes, you need tethering but there are tethering and webtop hacks galore in the "noob" thread that is stickied at the top of the "General" forum.
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You need an att tethering plan to use webtop.... I don't know what you are talking about. There is a reason why xda is becoming more and more irrelevant as time goes on and developers are choosing a different website. It's people like you guys who just need to one up other posters who are causing this. There are some great people on here, then there are you guys. That's the reason why the rootzwiki is becoming the new standard. Oh and I should sell my atrix cause I asked a question about webtop? That clearly means I have no idea what I'm doing right? That's a joke but thanks for the suggestion
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Also, try not to take anything personally. This is an internet forum, just let it roll off your back.

Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G. Webtop works fine on wifi... And before gingerbread, there used to be a way to get it to work without a tethering plan. That is why I asked this "n00b" question that nobody seems to have an answer for.
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Have you tried the "Entitlement" mod (enabling tethering)? It should be the one right above or below the Webtop link.
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Just looked over the sticky and it has a link to a cwm installable webtop file that I already have. Nothing about disabling att from verifying the tethering plan required to use the webtop on 3G.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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No problem, hope you find something that works. Like I've said, I don't use it so I don't know what would actually work.
Also, like I've said, you can't take things personally on the internet, but if I can give some advice. Try to be more descriptive in your comments especially when starting an entire thread. Include things like what "mods" you have already used, and maybe include what ROM you're using and what resources you have already searched through for answers, you could even go as far as describing the steps you are using when encountering the issue. All of this helps the rest of us help you. Your original post "looks" like a "noob" question and that's like blood in the water for the sharks.
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No I haven't I will take a look. Thank you for actually trying to be helpful.
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OP asked a valid question and didn't deserve to be noob-bashed. I have the same issue. I have done the "entitlement" hack using the SQLLite Editor to set the "Entitlement Check" field to "0", and I am able to use my Atrix as a mobile hotspot without a tethering plan.
However, when I attempt to use Firefox on the Lapdock while connected via 3G (WiFi off), a popup appears saying "Verifying AT&T account status for webtop...". Then, after a few seconds, it fails and another dialog pops up saying "The Firefox browser requires a Wi-Fi connection or appropriate data plan. Please use Wi-Fi or call AT&T Customer Service at 1-800-331-0500 to add the appropriate data plan to your account"
Any help would be appreciated.

Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.

dmbrown81 said:
Try this and see if it works. Make sure you have done the entitlement hack and while connected to the webtop turn on the mobile hotspot on your phone and then go into your networks and choose the tether apn.
I tried something in that nature and was browsing firefox on my phones data. I'll try again in the morning and see if that's what I did.
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Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!

davemao said:
Thanks dmbrown81, that totally worked! I still get the nagging messages from the Webtop about needing a tethering plan, but if I just turn on WiFi Tethering while the phone is docked, Firefox will work fine! Brilliant!
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You might try turning off the "Mot mobile device extensions" addon and see what happens.
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Question.
Is it considered tethering if instead of using the full browser firefox, that requires a tethering plan, to instead use a browser (such as Dolphin HD) INSIDE of the phone module app on the webtop... since it's actually using your phone's apps instead of firefox?
just a thought.
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Obviously that would never be detected, but ATT does consider it tethering. Total BS if you ask me, all the doc is is an external screen/keyboard/pad/battery, it is in no way a seperate system.

The odd thing is that while using a StarHub prepaid sim in Singapore on my unlocked ATT Atrix it doesn't do that check, only when I use my ATT sim.
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Thanks that solution works
Thanks everyone for suggesting the "hotspot" trip. I am curious as to why this needs to be done is we are using the entitlement hack. Does anyone know why this is or is the just the way to get around having to pay twice for data? Also, have you guys noticed a big hit in your battery life when using the hotspot tethering? I'm just happy that this solution works because I got the lapdock just for this reason.

There is something in the ATT firmware that recognizes when the phone is using an ATT sim and disables data connections to the webtop environment. The whole time I was in Singapore using a StarHub Green prepaid sim my phone never did that "Verifying account blablablah..." when I docked the phone in my LapDock, as soon as I docked it I could start using Firefox.
An interesting note: the phone disables all data connections for a moment when it does this check. I noticed it because Pandora died on me one day when I was listening and I docked my phone. I watched the connectivity arrows on the H+ icon the next time I docked my phone and they went away for a few seconds just as that toaster notification popped up. Even with the Entitlement Mod this happens.
Hotspot tethering will kill your battery life, although that battery life is augmented by the lapdock. I'm pretty sure you can turn tethering off once you've started up Firefox and are browsing away. Don't ask me how I know, a little bird told me.
No, using apps inside the phone view isn't considered tethering. You can use the stock browser inside there without doing anything. If att calls using a non-stock browser tethering, pitch a fit and tell them to piss up a rope.
And regarding my snark earlier: I think a lot of the people who have been here for a while get tired of seeing threads like "Can I haz root on my phone OMG I'm a noob" when we remember discussing the same subject multiple times in the past. I know this particular question has been asked and answered before. I found it ironic that you were being chided by someone who had < 10 posts.
tl;dr - non-ATT sims work without mods, ATT sim data connection gets disabled, this has been covered.

Sprint Blocks Tethering Apps...

Here is your proof:
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/10/s...arket/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...locking-tethering-apps-in-the-android-market/
There are a million ways to get around this of course: market hacks, downloading the apps from other sources, side-loading... they're included with most roms... blah blah blah.
Just bringing this to your attention in case you were trying to d/l it from the market and it's not showing up. Now you know why

Just checked the market and looks like you're right. No PdaNet. No Easy Tether. Can still get Easy Tether on Amazon's app store however.

This will only effect the NOOBS.
CapsLockKey said:
Just checked the market and looks like you're right. No PdaNet. No Easy Tether. Can still get Easy Tether on Amazon's app store however.
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This will only effect the Noobs. We can easy download the tether programs to our computers and then copy them on to our android phones.

I knew this. I just ingored it
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Why do they give us data hungry phone and then want to limit our usage?
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Technically we agreed not to use these, but still. Getting around it is so trivial, and yes, this might trip up a few noobs, but chances are if you're that nooby you wouldn't have a need for, or even realize that, tethering is an option.
Add that all up, and it seems like the only thing this move can get you is bad PR/karma.
You may as well be "cool","allow" it, and play the "other carriers try to tell you how you can use your phone and limit your access to certain apps" card, cause it's happening either way.

Sprint can and will cancel service with high data usage.
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I use my PC and go to http://market.android.com/ and login to google account.
Easier to find apps that way anyway. Plus it shows all that I've ever downloaded if I look at my library.

jamice4u said:
This will only effect the Noobs. We can easy download the tether programs to our computers and then copy them on to our android phones.
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That's what the OP says dude...
swear0730 said:
I use my PC and go to http://market.android.com/ and login to google account.
Easier to find apps that way anyway. Plus it shows all that I've ever downloaded if I look at my library.
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Easier to find apps, yes. Shows your previous download library, yes. Once you click on an item that is no longer offerred, it will tell you its no longer available for download. You basically stare at the husk of an app it once was. But it doesn't tell you that til after you click on it to view its details.

Meh i never used tether apps i use the official hotpot hack

davidrules7778 said:
Meh i never used tether apps i use the official hotpot hack
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I like that one better. Its not an adhoc connection like the tether apps, but an actual hotspot that your computer actively looks for and can become a preferred network. Its just kewler.
Doesn't log your data usage though, only downside really.

Xhyperion said:
Sprint can and will cancel service with high data usage.
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What's about "unlimited data?"
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rangerover_95 said:
What's about "unlimited data?"
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Really only applies on your phone, as in, the data your phone is using. Tethering is a whole new realm. Sprint can tell if you're tethering or using your phone, so if you have a large amount of data through tethering, they'll flag you for it.
I think they're putting limits on tethering plans now, somewhere around 5GB or so I thought.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
I like that one better. Its not an adhoc connection like the tether apps, but an actual hotspot that your computer actively looks for and can become a preferred network. Its just kewler.
Doesn't log your data usage though, only downside really.
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Plus it is stable and doesn't cause reboots and its built into settings so u also get usb tethering too
Also i like it cause it has many different security types and i found one that works with my ds
Only one LOL

hayzooos said:
Sprint can tell if you're tethering or using your phone
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They can make you pay for the use of *their* tether app, but I'd like to see evidence that they can tell if your using the likes of a rooted phone with Wireless Tether. I think of this situation the way I viewed using a wired/wireless switch off your home broadband ISP back in the day. For me, Charter only allowed one registered MAC address to the cable modem, and there was some FUD spreading around that you'd get "busted" for using a switch to provide service to multiple computers. Of course there was no way to tell unless they get really invasive. Similar deal here. Hopefully restrictions on phone tethering will seem just as crazy in a few years.

I'm using TWC isp over wifi right now & its not showing up? WTF how is it that its not showing up over wifi?
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hayzooos said:
Really only applies on your phone, as in, the data your phone is using. Tethering is a whole new realm. Sprint can tell if you're tethering or using your phone, so if you have a large amount of data through tethering, they'll flag you for it.
I think they're putting limits on tethering plans now, somewhere around 5GB or so I thought.
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Actually they can't. The data logger only kicks in if you pay for the Hotspot app. They can't tell the difference if you are tethering or downloading tons of movies to your phone.

ArchangelRenzoku said:
That's what the OP says dude...
Easier to find apps, yes. Shows your previous download library, yes. Once you click on an item that is no longer offerred, it will tell you its no longer available for download. You basically stare at the husk of an app it once was. But it doesn't tell you that til after you click on it to view its details.
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Actually... I decided to use my Epic as a wireless hotspot about 3 days ago and was didn't find any wifi tether apps using my phone so I used my PC 'cause I knew I'd downloaded one before. (wifi tether). Went through my library, found it and pushed it to my phone.
(cool story bro)

hayzooos said:
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You forgot "I think" in the beginning of that sentence - you can't "know" something that is false, so that would be the only edit that would make your sentence accurate. Oh, but you'd still be wrong, just to be clear
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"Unlimited data" only means that you aren't going to get billed for going over x amount.
It doesn't mean Sprint just has to lay back and take it from someone who's costing them money to have as a customer, tethering or not. They reserve the right to tell any of us to beat it.