[ANNOUNCEMENT]Please read regarding FLAMING and POSTING IN THE WRONG SECTION - Fascinate General

Aight look. We have a Q&A section now, and I ask that all questions be posted in that section. This is a well known rule, and a simple one to boot.
But, that isn't what this thread is about. No, this thread is about FLAMING OTHER USERS FOR POSTING IN THE WRONG SECTION. Simply put, the amount of flaming that goes on for people posting in the wrong section is ASTOUNDING.
From this point on(4/16/2011) any and all threads that are flame wars will be closed, and the people doing the flaming will be issued infractions. These will all start as yellow cards, IE warnings that expire and do not go against your profile. If you continue to flame, they will escalate to red cards, which DO go against your profile and CAN and WILL lead to a ban, which may be permanent.
I honestly do not want to be posting this thread. But this has just gone too far.
IF someone posts in the wrong section, a polite "please post in the correct section", a short answer and a report to me is all that is required and expected. Please note that when you report a post it goes to me and the senior moderators and administrators. I have also made it so that I will now receive PM's directly to my phone so that I can get things resolved faster.
If you go into a thread that is in the wrong section, and the OP has already been told this, DO NOT add to the post, rather send me a PM with the link/info or click the REPORT POST button.
To the point folks-the flaming is out of control. I am partly to blame for enforcing that questions be posted in the Q&A section and completely realize this, but in order to keep this forum clean the Q&A rule will remain to be a rule.
This thread is closed. If you have any comments or concerns regarding this matter, please PM me.
Thanks-saur.

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[READ ME] Rules, Moderation, How to Help - Additional information

And now, a word from your friendly neighbourhood moderators!
As you may know some of our Android device forums are a bit "messy", with your help, let's see if we can keep the i9000 forums clean! This is a bit of an experiment, to see if posts like these help at all. Most of the following is simple common sense, and for most of you it will hopefully bring nothing new.
Moderators
The official i9000 forums moderator is Sirphunkee. I, Chainfire will also be hanging around here quite a bit.
Rules
Please consult the forum rules before posting, they can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263#post81
Additions
The rules should be clear enough, however I will repeat some points for emphasis and post some additions here as well.
Use the search
This speaks for itself, though many still don't use it.
Check the i9000 FAQ before posting
It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596
Don't post in the android development section ...
... unless you are absolutely sure it belongs there! The developers / hackers are trying to work, don't bother them with things that do not belong there.
When in doubt, post in the general section. If it's a question, post in the Q&A section
If you're not sure, it probably should NOT go into the android development section.
Treat eachother with respect
No flaming, no personal attacks, be nice, behave, show respect. While you may be responding to somebody who has asked a question you might find dumb, or he didn't use the search, or whatever reason you think you may have, it is never ever warranted to be flaming anyone, and it simply will not be tolerated.
Ignore flames, personal attacks, etc
If these should occur, do not respond to them! Especially when they are directed at you, this is hard to do and you want to defend yourself. Suppres this urge! Responding to these is "feeding the troll", and only serves to bring a thread further off-topic and make it much harder for us moderators to clean up the mess. Responding to these posts makes you part of the problem, and doesn't help anyone. See below for how to report these to have a moderator look at it, and if needed, remove it. Don't let the trolls win!
Saying thank you
This forum does not come with a "thank you" button like some other forums do. While for example if you post a question and others help you out, saying "thank you" is nice, in many development threads saying thank you only serves to clutter to thread. Please do not post a comment saying nothing more than "thank you" in these threads - instead perhaps consider giving the developer a small donation to show your appreciation, give the thread a 5-star rating, or help out in some other way (like assisting others with their problems).
Helping out
There are many of you, and only a few of us moderators. Like you, we are mere humans, we are not paid for being here, and our time is limited - we cannot read every post of every thread. The first few things you can do to help out is behave, assist others, follow the rules, and make sure you are not the (negative) reason that we need to look at a thread or post. But there's more you can do to be of assistance:
Reporting posts
Each post has a "report" button associated with it, found at the top-right of the post. It a triangle with an exclamation mark inside of it, and hard to miss. Clicking it will give you a box you can use to add a comment, and then the post in question will be brought to the attention of the moderators. Be short and precise when writing the comment. While your biography is undoubtedly an interesting thing to read, it has no place in that comment box Please verify that the post is actually against the rules of XDA (see link at the top of this post) before reporting a post. The additions I have posted here, unless they are also present in the XDA rules, are not enforced by other moderators.
Posts in the wrong section
I see a lot of comments on threads that they are in the wrong section. Please handle these threads in the following way:
Check that nobody else has already posted that the thread is in the wrong section. Do not clutter the thread with notices about how the thread starter is in the wrong place, one notice is enough!
If you're the first, post that the thread should have been (for example) in the general or Q&A section instead of the android development section, in a kind and respectful way, and ...
report the post, putting something like "not development, please move to general" in the comment box.
Flames, personal attacks, (severe) disrespect
Even though these are against the rules, they will still happen. As stated above, it is generally not a good idea to respond to them. However, depending on how offensive they are, you might wish to report them for moderator attention. Do so in the following way:
Check that nobody else has already posted that he reported the post. Do not clutter the thread with notices, responses to a flame, etc. One notice is enough!
If you appear to be the first, you might want to post that you have reported said post (without quoting it!), and ...
check if others have quoted the flame, personal attack, etc in their replies, and ...
report the post, putting something like "flame, has been quoted / responded to by others". This makes our job faster to do!
Violations of other rules
These will happen. Again, check if others have already (kindly and respectfully) notified the poster that his behaviour is against the rules. You might want to report such a violation, but please take a moment to think about it, and do not go on a "reporting spree". Is the violation really so severe that it needs to be "handled" by moderators ? Does a moderator really need to warn this user about his behaviour ? Does the post really need to be modified by a moderator ? For example, for some light verbal abuse / explicit language, you might just want to (kindly) ask the user to tone his language down a bit and/or edit his own post, instead of turning to a moderator.
Don't go on a reporting spree
As stated above, think hard about reporting a post before you do it. For example, don't go to android development section and report threads from page 3 to be in the wrong area. The thread is likely already dead, and requesting to have it moved is a waste of both your and our time. Use common sense!
Other
The "star rating" system is not useless
You can rate a thread with up to 5 stars. Please use this ability, it makes it easy to spot high quality and low quality threads for others browsing these forums.
Don't PM myself or Sirphunkee unless you really have to
We get enough PM's as it is. Most things can be resolved without sending us a PM personally. For example by reporting a post, or posting in this thread here.
Need more empty posts at the top of your thread ?
It is not uncommon that you have ran out of space in the first post of your thread (especially with "release" threads). Feel free to request additional "first posts" for your thread by posting in this thread here.
Do you really think a certain thread should (or should no longer) be a sticky ?
Again, feel free to post that here in this thread. Obviously, do not request your own threads to be stickied. If it is worthy, others will request it for you.
Anything you would like to add or request ?
Feel free to post it in here, but please remain on-topic.
The end!
Hopefully this will have a positive effect and is generally helpful, if not, I'll just remove this thread again.
I will try to keep up with the posts in here !
Thank you! I appreciate you putting time into keep our little patch of XDA in shape.
Thanks for your time!
it was about time we got some one official in here
Thank you moderators, for sacrificing your personal time to make this forum more enjoyable.
This is an excellent thread and it was about time to put things in order!
My congratulations guys!
Since there is an option for requests here..I would like to request consideration for this petition:
[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
Аnd there are already 270+ members up for merging.
Will moderators consider it?
That's an admin decision, not a moderator decision.
Oh, ok, sorry
Did the admins take final decision whether to merge or not?
And are they aware of the situation?
jam3sjam3s said:
Oh, ok, sorry
Did the admins take final decision whether to merge or not?
And are they aware of the situation?
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Yes, the discussion about this is ongoing at the moment. The admins and mods are discussing the best way to handle the organizing of all the Galaxy forum sections, and will likely come to some decision shortly. We're looking at the proposal in AllGamer's poll (see the sticky at the top of this section) as a possible solution, and I'm sure we'll post whatever the final decision is somewhere in each of the current sections (this one included) to make sure all members who need to know are aware.
sirphunkee , thank you for your reply and your work
All Galaxy S owners are looking forward to solving this problem
Modified the first post a bit to reference Q&A section. Q&A has been here for a while but I was on vacation
I see lots of great work from moderation lately!
This forum felt little 'undermoderated' until now, but your effort in past hours to keep this place up just cant be missed!
Thank you!
Thanks guys for all you do, got my SGS 9 days ago; was fearful of rooting; found one click lag fix, dove right in; you guys are awesome!!!! thank you!! thank you!!! thank you!!!
Well, not replying to anything in particular and nothing really special enough to warrant a new topic and since this is the most "general" Galaxy S topic I thought I'd share it here.
Swiping my Galaxy S along the the left side of the laptop (keyboard) area puts my Macbook Pro to sleep (around the FN key). Only when the Galaxy S is unlocked and screen, just a weird occurrence I thought I'd share. Tried it on a few other Macbook Pros, same result. Looked around a bit, apparently magnet does this but I'm thinking something else. Interesting nonetheless.
useful topic
Indeed usefull topic!
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hi you all i am new here
Noted with the rules...
okej good to know

Read this before posting anything --- threads will be deleted without notice

Hi guys, I've been assigned as the lead forum moderator for the Epic forum.
The other moderators are theimpaler747 and rolfd
Feel free to PM me any qualms you may have. Any.
Mikey1022 said:
With that being said, please take a moment to review XDA forum rules. Anyone found intentionally violating these rules will be punished.
The most important "rule" I urge you not to forget is, HAVE FUN and BE COURTEOUS! Thank you and I look forward to keeping "ORDer" and "Peace" throughout the forum.​
Thinking of posting a new thread???​
Use the search button on the top bar between "New Posts" and "Quick Links"
Threads posted in the wrong fora will be moved initially; however, for repeat offenders, the moderating team will look to take action to rectify the situation in a manner it believes is appropriate
WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE.
It is the responsibility of all users to keep the fora organized and clean. We need you to do your bit to keep things orderly.
REPORT THEM
To the dedicated members that care to keep this forum, sub forums included, clean and organized and grouped.
Please start reporting threads to the mods to take action. Please use the REPORT button to do so.
Thank You and happy easy searching.
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I am reiterating what Deca said above. It is just me and Jayharper08 now. Adding to the above, I will move threads to where they belong without notice since that only serves to bump the thread. Q&A is for ALL questions. General is for announcements and general statements (including rants apparently). I think we will keep surveys in the General forum for now unless people object, because they really are a question.
With that said the Epic community is fantastic. So much so that with all the traffic here the top guys felt you only need 2 mods. So let's all help to make this the shining star of XDA.
Thanks
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[ANNOUNCEMENT]Regarding flaming and new moderation technique

Alright, here's how it is. While a good majority of us here are from other devices/have been around XDA for awhile as this is an advanced device, there are also many, MANY new users here aswell. As such, the following apply not only to new users but to EVERYONE:
1-READ AND ABIDE BY THE XDA RULES.
2-READ THE STICKIES BEFORE POSTING *ANYTHING*.
3-*ALWAYS* USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION BEFORE POSTING A NEW THREAD.
4-POST QUESTIONS STRICTLY WITHIN THE Q&A SECTION.
5-IF YOU SEE SOMETHING AMISS, REPORT IT, *DO NOT FLAME OTHER USERS*.
Now onto the meat of this announcement. Moderation within the Fascinate forums are about to be kicked up a notch. Flaming has become a real problem around here, and will no longer be tolerated in any way. Simply put, you flame, your post gets deleted and you get infracted. No chances, no taking it back.
Now you may be saying, "o derp, i dont care about infarctions. tey dont meen anything". Keep this in mind, get enough infractions...and you get permabanned.
tl;dr-ANY user seen flaming, for ANY reason WHATSOEVER, WILL be infracted, no questions asked. If you see a user either flaming or being flamed, please use the report post function and send any of your moderators(myself, badwolve1 or benko) a PM and let us know what is going on. Likewise if you are being flamed, please speak up and let us know whats going on but DO NOT flame the flamer back.
tl;dr for the entire post-read and follow the rules and everything will be peachy.
This thread is closed and this subject is not open for public discussion. If you have any beef, please PM me directly here at XDA.
Word.-ashasaur

OPERATION:IRON FIST is now in effect

As was announced last week, Operation:Iron Fist is in full effect. Read about it here.
With that being said, the following will begin to happen:
1. All non-development threads started in the Development section will be moved to the appropriate section and/or closed and the "responsible" poster (in quotes because the fact they posted in the wrong section clearly brings into question whether or not they are responsible) will be infracted.
2. Any abusive posts directed at any user will be deleted and the abuser will be infracted and/or given a temporary vacation. Multiple instances will result in a longer leave-of-absence, and if it continues you will be removed from XDA. You, and your behavior, are not welcome at XDA.
3. Any off-topic posts in the Development section threads will be deleted. These are non-helpful, and certainly not development posts. This includes the following:
"OMG THIS IS SO GREAT!"
"WOW! YOU ROCK AND I WANT TO HAVE YOUR BABIES!"
"THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER!"
"THANKS FOR THIS!"
If you want to thank someone for their work, do so by clicking the "THANKS" button on their post.
4. Any post, in any section, that is done to further post count will be deleted and you will face possible infraction.
5. Anything else that goes against the XDA Forum Rules and XDA Mantra will be dealt with firmly, but fairly.
wrek said:
What if we're replying to a post to say "OMG!!! THIS IS GREAT!!!!!"? Is that considered a post or a reply?
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Ahh - perfect example. It's both - and not needed in a Development thread. Use Thanks.

[READ THlS FlRST] POST QUESTIONS IN THE Q&A SECTION AND NOT HERE!!!!

So since there has been a lot of newcomers lately who have been creating threads in general sections regarding questions/reporting bugs, I decided to make this thread to tell them about what they are supposed to do and what they should avoid.
For newcomers/newbies:
1. If you have a question regarding about your device, post in the Q&A Section
2. If you have bugs about a ROM, post your bugs in the ROM's thread or its Questions thread.
3. If you would want opinions on which phone you should buy, this is not quite the place but you can search for reviews or remarks by people who have used the phone via Google or Youtube (E.g Pocketnow, PhoneArena, Techradar)
For senior members/experienced people:
1. If you see a thread in the wrong section, hit the report button (Triangle button with an exclamation mark at the top right corner) and request for the moderators to move the thread to the correct section.
2. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
3. If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
For everyone:
1. If you would like to share your experience with your device, give a farewell message to others, tell funny stories or just anything off-topic, then post your random words in The Off-Topic Thread
Why?:
1. To keep sections neat and clean
2. To reduce threads that are not helpful to others but to yourself
3. To make moderators' jobs easier
I'm not a forum moderator, but I'm just here to help
I'd also like to add something.
I am tired of the snarky responses in the threads that should be moved. If you don't have anything to say, then don't. Maybe you could help fix the problem at hand and then at the end post something like, "Next time this should go in the Q&A section. I'll report for it to be moved."
There are quite a few people who think that they need to take matters in their own hands. Please stop. You are not part of the solution, but rather part of the problem. Recently The Rules have changed to condense Flaming and Lack of Respect. Snide remarks in threads can lead a person who has nothing invested in the thread getting an infraction.
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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Please Post All Questions In The Q&A Section.
They do not belong in the General Section.
If you are missing your threads, this is probably why.
They will be moved or closed depending on their material.
Per Rule 15
15. Keep posts/threads on-topic
Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.
•--->General Forums - For news and announcements relating to your device.
•--->Q&A Forums - For all question threads / posts. If there is no Q&A forum use the device General Forum
•Accessories subforum - For posts related to accessories relevant to the phone model
•Development Forums (ones with the word development in the title) - For developers to post release threads e.g. ROMs and Kernels including modifications to Kernels, Bootloaders, ROMs, etc.
•Themes and Apps Forums - For themers to post Themes and App. announcements & discussions including modifications made to Apps and Themes.
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And I'll just leave this here for kicks.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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^^^^ Thanks @Woody for this addition, I can stop biting my tongue hopefully now! I for one know that my first post on XDA was one of those "panic and post" classics!..........and I am eternally grateful that I was helped rather than being shot down in flames.
Any parent will know that encouraging people/youngsters whilst also steering them in the right direction, is infinitely more favourable than scolding and put downs.
We, as members of a community, should nurture talent, not discourage it and personally I would hate to think that I had tried slamming the door in the face of a potential upcoming Chainfire.......that would be very embarrassing.
Nurture the future
Learn wisdom from the past.
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