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I'll tell ya, the quality of the camera on this thing is bad ass. Attached is a panorama I shot with it yesterday.
The original is really high resolution too.
vr24 said:
I'll tell ya, the quality of the camera on this thing is bad ass. Attached is a panorama I shot with it yesterday.
The original is really high resolution too.
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Glad you were in such a nice place. I was wondering how you took such a good panorama shot? (was it a specific panorama app?)
nice shot.. i too am extremely satisfied with the cam on the nexus. care to share the app you used to take that panorama?
I too am interested in that app
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Not sure if there's an app that can be used directly on the phone but there's many PC applications that can stitch together a series of photos flawlessly like this. But if there is one on the phone I'd be interested in it!
And that's a beautiful picture!
It's not an app on the phone. I just shot the photos then stiched them together with Windows Live Photo Gallery.
All you do is put your photos into the live photo gallery, highlight them all, right click and select "make panorama".
The optimized version doesn't do it justice, the original is 7500 pixels wide. Took a lot of other ski photos, it was nice not needing a separate camera - every photo came out stunning.
Looks fantastic! Is that with the Desire Camera, or the stock Nexus one?
This is the Desire ROM Alpha 21. I would assume that this is the desire camera app, although I've never seen the normal nexus app so I wouldn't know.
Thanks for the info. The stock camera is good... but the Desire camera is way more adjustable. So far the standalone Desire camera app that PaulOBrien ported for us is the only reason I'd consider rooting.
As I'm rooted and using a custom ROM I don't have the HTC Sense image viewer.
And the froyo one I don't really like because it only organizes the photos by date and when you zoom in it becomes pixelated.
Want an image viewer which will organize by name and will be clear when zoomed into a picture.
Thank you.
Gallery should be the thing.
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Gallery should be the thing.
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That's the one I'm saying is **** lol.
Since I don't get such pixelation in any viewer, I'm not sure what'll work for you. JustPictures! is another viewer, and, I like it.
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Stock gallery has the confirmed blurry/pixelated issue when zooming in all the way. Incidentally, this seems to be related to the 24MB managed heap restriction, which seems a bit low especially when google coders say you shouldn't use native heap allocation too much.
Anyway, You are right, I'm lost too without htc sense gallery and there is no way to port it at the moment. I've found that when I need to zoom all the way in a photo I can use pictureviewer, which has no navigation though.
PS justpictures sorta works, however it's the slowest and most choppy gallery I've seen on android
Definitely no slowness, pixelation (etc) here. Gallery app is the only sluggish one for me. Maybe check you have enough mem space free before opening the app... Known to slow down most apps and make them sluggish on Android.
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Definitely no slowness, pixelation (etc) here. Gallery app is the only sluggish one for me. Maybe check you have enough mem space free before opening the app... Known to slow down most apps and make them sluggish on Android.
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
This is also confirmed by Google, both in eclair and froyo.
This is also completely unrelated to the quantity of free memory, but rather by the fixed limit of memory allocation in the managed heap. I can post the link of code.google if you want to read a very technical discussion about it.
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
This is also confirmed by Google, both in eclair and froyo.
This is also completely unrelated to the quantity of free memory, but rather by the fixed limit of memory allocation in the managed heap. I can post the link of code.google if you want to read a very technical discussion about it.
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Your exactly right and you know what I exactly mean.
Because in the HTC Sense picture viewer you can quite clearly see the difference when you zoom into the pictures compared to the stock android gallery and you can zoom in more with the HTC Sense picture viewer.
I think i would be fine though if in the stock gallery you could at least sort them by name and size. Only sorts it by date, quite annoying.
I might be wrong but I think the issue was even worse on 2.1
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
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I read fine the first time. You've misunderstood me.
1. The "etc" meant in reference to any issue you mentioned including "slow/choppy/blurry"; they're all non-issues for me on both viewers - Sense and JustPictures! - except the stock Gallery app. That's sluggish and blurry, which as you correctly mention, is well known for the latter.
2. Except for testing, I never need to put high def images to view on the phone, ever, and the phone taken images give me no problem viewing in any of the 3 apps. AFAICT, only high quality pics are problematic in the stock Gallery app for me. I'll test more on more free time.
3. I didn't mention the blurry stock Gallery zoom could possibly be fixed by more free memory, but to your "most choppy/slowest viewer" remark for JustPictures!. Android routinely performs dirt slow for any app loading a lot of data when the memory space is sub ~45MB.
4. As to the discussion links re the stock Gallery limitations; I've already seen them priorly.
Late Edit: thankfully, you linked the crappy browser image quality pic I complained about there too: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6021
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- we miss HTC gallery
- stock android gallery is a problem for me when reading small text in big pictures or details in landscapes. Sometimes it's not very crisp anyway when zoomed in.
- justpictures is slow on my overclocked desire, plenty of memory free . Don't know, some market comments say the same. I also have some problems with pinch zoom. Shame because it looks nice.
Ps: I'm starting to hate tapatalk! Hehe
Edit: by the way, increasing heap size in build. Prop does not help
I think I've found a way to make justpictures bearable (for me)
Small thumbnails, no tilt, portrait mode. The first time you go through your photos it will be a pain (stops and shutters all the time) but subsequently, while not very smooth, can be used.
Pinch zoom is still a bit of a mistery to me: once you start zooming it's quite hard if not impossible to change photo by sliding.
I don't know if it's stock behaviour but I also can't maintain the max level of zoom and keep panning, as soon as I take the finger off it zooms out.. .
I've finished more thorough testing now.
You are right. The Sense viewer zoom level quality and picture sharpness is by far the better of the three viewers. I've tried with up-to 8MB and 8MP images. A 24MB and a 26MB high resolution image fails any level of zoom on all viewers though.
Re the Gallery viewer; I don't fully understand how their heap size explanation holds across all test cases when I have 192KB ~1000x1500 JPEGs giving the same poor zoom quality even at a low zoom level.
Re JustPictures!; during testing I could not replicate any of your earlier mentioned issues leaving it all stock... until I by chance cleared the cache. Ever since, it has been slug slow loading/navigating, choppy and >2MB pics as well as high resolution pics render blurry. You can zoom in more than the Gallery viewer and retain fidelity but no where close to the acuity the Sense viewer achieves. It seems inconsistent and unstable. You can check it out, but I take this recommendation back.
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Pinch zoom is still a bit of a mistery to me: once you start zooming it's quite hard if not impossible to change photo by sliding.
I don't know if it's stock behaviour but I also can't maintain the max level of zoom and keep panning, as soon as I take the finger off it zooms out.. .
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I've never been able to change image while zoomed, and panning while zoomed always resets the zoom for me. Understandably, not ideal at all.
The album sort/view options are the only current advantages it holds above the Sense viewer for me.
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Yup, justpictures looks ok at first and they are updating often, but it's quite messed up in some stuff deep down. If you notice, even when it has cached the images, while scrolling fast enough many still show 'working' in place of the image itself and the choppiness isn't completely gone.
The zoom interface is the last bit that makes it non-recommendable, I think they tried to do something smart there, but failed.
About stock gallery: In fact it's quite strange that heap size could restrict viewing small images correctly, nontheless it's a restriction which I guess hampers proper developement and could force developers to be lazy and just avoid to go near that limit anyway. Stock gallery is from the same guys that developed cooliris for the web and while it always looked awesome, it lacked a bit in functionality.
I think the argument on that google code thread against native stack use doesn't hold much water.
For some reason, google or samsung felt that we shouldn't be able to see the full quality of our picks in the stock gallery app. I was wondering this for my self because my pictures kept appearing blurry on my phone but not n my pc.
I suggest everyne download large image viewer from the market, it allows you to see your pictures in full resolution instead of the blurry mess that the gallery offers. I hope this issue gets handled though, this phone is way too powerful to be forced into lower quality image viewing!
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For some reason, google or samsung felt that we shouldn't be able to see the full quality of our picks in the stock gallery app. I was wondering this for my self because my pictures kept appearing blurry on my phone but not n my pc.
I suggest everyne download large image viewer from the market, it allows you to see your pictures in full resolution instead of the blurry mess that the gallery offers. I hope this issue gets handled though, this phone is way too powerful to be forced into lower quality image viewing!
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not samsung..google
I've always hated the blurriness on the stock gallery app too. It was the same on the EVO. The difference with this image viewer app is night and day. I love it Thanks!
I love this gallery for it's functionality, but damn, you are right. It just kills the quality the second you start zooming in.
Large Image Viewer does a nice job, just wish you didn't have to tap left and right arrows to goto the next picture.
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I've always hated the blurriness on the stock gallery app too. It was the same on the EVO. The difference with this image viewer app is night and day. I love it Thanks!
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It was not the same on the evo,the evo had sense gallery which showed the pictures in full res,its the aosp gallery that does enehance the quality, its better with froyo though
Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.
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Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.
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i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.
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i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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I think you may have used the free version...which doesn't support the full resolution of your phone. But I took a few different pictures comparing, I only posted that one comparision, but yeah vignette came out better everytime alot more crisp anyways.
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I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.
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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry
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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry
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I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...
bongd said:
I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...
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I was watching a video on youtube of the droid x camera and features....I wish SE would give us something like that. Pretty slick interface and options....really no need for 3rd party apps. However I do have PicSay Pro...so that gives me everything my heart desires lol.
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I returned to the stock app because vignette is so damn slow and I could not find a way to just take a picture and have it save without having to push 50 buttons.
I won't deny the quality is far superior, but like I said its just stop slow.
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i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI
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That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
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Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI
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I've noticed low light shots are a week point to... that's when I break out my actual digital camera tho.... which also happens to be sony lol
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iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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i just removed the shortcut m8 from the screen and in vignette there is a shortcut when u use it to take video and when you press the button u go to video mode to your stock camera app
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Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
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exactly what i did
I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app
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I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app
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It almost sounds like your doing something wrong. Do you have the paid version?
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Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine
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Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine
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There pretty close, but it almost looks like the X10 default camera has the edge in that pic. Perhaps the X10 default camera is better in lower light photos? I haven't tested that yet.
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That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too
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Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too
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y exactly ) i was thinking is easy to understand that i only deleted the app from my screen not uninstalling it
and about those 2 pictures with the sunglasses m8... there maybe is not difference in close up pictures coz macro is working fine but try to take pictures from distance and youll see the difference anyway i`m using steady shot for best preformance 8mpx superfine and 16:9 widescreen something u dont have at stock app 8pmx only 4:3 ... sooo there u go aaaa and another thing with vignette u can take picture with a real FLASH ... not with LED light
I am currently using 3 Gallery apps on the DHD; HTC Stock, Floating Image, and Gallery 3D.
Over all i think i prefer gallery 3D but it has some issues, when zooming in with Gallery 3D the image is a lot fuzzier than the HTC app.
It seems to be Version 1.1.3...
Is there anything that can be done?
There seems to be a distinct lack of options when it comes to the app.
I noticed this too and rated it low and left a comment...
I guess the dev isn't bothered at this point
Dev? I thought google was the dev, oops :/
Did it not come with the nexus one as stock?
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You rated it low? It is still awesome, id give it 4* with one deducted for lack of configuration options and fuzzy zoom...
I forget, I think I gave it 2 or 3. The fact you can't zoom in on an image seems a pretty massive drawback on an image app...
Yeah, I thought it was Google, but you'll see it in the Markets so...?
The description of the market app says its a 3rd party port if i remember correctly
Having said that, that means theres some source floating around, i'll have a look and see what the problem is, should be a fairly simple fix...
Would be very interested if you did. Be sure to let me know here if you do!
Hey I was also wondering how that app went on the dhd... i had it on hero but was slower then a sumo wrestler rock climbing!
but don't Cooliris make the app?
http://www.cooliris.com/mobile/nexus-one/
It is buttery smooth, no lag whatsoever
I installed Gallery 3D from Market couple hours ago because HTC own gallery app doesn't show pics from Picasa web albums and for me its superfast. And pictures are sharp and I can zoom in and out.
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To clarify, everything works great, you CAN zoom in, but it does re-render the images.
If you zoom in on the Sense Gallery app, it will re-draw it showing the finest possible detail.
Zoom in on Gallary 3D and it doesn't redraw it Looks fuzzy when you zoom right in.