Well. have had my xoom for around a week.
Little frustrated with some of the non function, Flash is slow and no SD however. operation wise it does everything I throw at it. Happy. Anyway these aren't avail on the Ipad sooo what am I going to do.
My wife came home last night with a Ipad 2 3G.
First things. Grabbing it the perception is the xoom is smaller. Weight wise can't tell. Both feel equall from weight wise.
Screen on the Ipad is brighter but grainer than the xoom.
Powering on.
Hit the ipad power button, powers on shortly and insist it need to be connected to a computer, no bypass. Plug it in and it needs iTunes. What!
Install itunes and get it online.
Done. Strange, Ipad only needs to be connected for like 1 sec before it is activated. Sure this could have been done over Wireless.
UI feels more constrained than the Xoom. usage difference are mainly due to what I am used to. Ipad Keyboard is a pain, have to start changing all our passwords because mixed numbers is frustrating. Xoom is easier to type on, both numbers and also touch typing.
Speed. Ipad has very smooth transitions however task switching, navigation, apps etc are way faster on the xoom. Backwards and forwards, homescreen, etc. With honeycomb there is no competition.
First thing we tried to do was copy some photo's onto the Ipad. Copy them onto a SD card and use the adpater. Nup. Browse to out website, nup. In the end installed photosync and now working.
However my wife will love the Ipad as I love the Xoom.
This morning my 2 year old has already sussed out to open an audio book and is listening to the gruffilo story. That in itself might say something.
I get my xoom today, and play with it for 4-5 hours. Honestly, i saw a lot of force close in web browser/ market, flash 10.2 doesn't work...but i believe those issue will be fixed by update next version of honeycomb in near future. Of course, i love my xoom.
tritran18518 said:
I get my xoom today, and play with it for 4-5 hours. Honestly, i saw a lot of force close in web browser/ market, flash 10.2 doesn't work...but i believe those issue will be fixed by update next version of honeycomb in near future. Of course, i love my xoom.
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Flash does work...you have to download it from the market. Also, if you are bold enough to root and install a custom kernel, the SD card slot is also functional.
After my loooong research on the ipad 2 vs xoom, Im buying my xoom tomorrow just sharing lol
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Flash does work...you have to download it from the market. Also, if you are bold enough to root and install a custom kernel, the SD card slot is also functional.
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- when i say "work" i mean it has to work at least 90-95% in all cases. Flash 10.2 on honeycomb can't approach that rate. i tested a lot of website this afternoon, watched a lot of flash video on my xoom, and i can only hear the sound or extremely choppy. However, flash 10.2 on my mytouch 4g, galasy s, even hd2- running android is far better than that.
- There is no custom room right now so i don't think i need to enable sdcard function. BTW, 32GB is enough for me.
Ye have a couple ipads here and one is for my 3 year old. I had to get her one after she figured out how to play angry birds Rio now she knows how to navigate net Flickr and watch kid moves and TV shows she even downloads games its crazy.... oh I have a zoom too and she can't figure it out lol
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Ty for your review this makes me feel a bit better about my decision to get a xoom next month...and as far as weight I was wondering bc a lot of people out there say "The Xoom is way heaver then the ipad 2" and that may be true, but does it feel super mega pushing a boulder up a hill heavy like people seem to be claiming?
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Ye have a couple ipads here and one is for my 3 year old. I had to get her one after she figured out how to play angry birds Rio now she knows how to navigate net Flickr and watch kid moves and TV shows she even downloads games its crazy.... oh I have a zoom too and she can't figure it out lol
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Aren't you glad you are smarter then a 3 years old? The XOOM makes you feel smarter
vamp6x6x6x said:
Ty for your review this makes me feel a bit better about my decision to get a xoom next month...and as far as weight I was wondering bc a lot of people out there say "The Xoom is way heaver then the ipad 2" and that may be true, but does it feel super mega pushing a boulder up a hill heavy like people seem to be claiming?
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No it does not feel like a super mega anything up a hill. People that say that should get out from behind the capacitive screens more often. Google the actual weight difference. Its very close. I have a wifi xoom and my girl has a ipad2. My xoom feels more solid than her ipad2. And she hates it when I show her different home screen layouts or transfer something from my SD card. I just tell her that "uncle" Steve says its ok.
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Ye have a couple ipads here and one is for my 3 year old. I had to get her one after she figured out how to play angry birds Rio now she knows how to navigate net Flickr and watch kid moves and TV shows she even downloads games its crazy.... oh I have a zoom too and she can't figure it out lol
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That's funny!! Maybe the ipad is the new Leap Pad?
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tritran18518 said:
I get my xoom today, and play with it for 4-5 hours. Honestly, i saw a lot of force close in web browser/ market, flash 10.2 doesn't work...but i believe those issue will be fixed by update next version of honeycomb in near future. Of course, i love my xoom.
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Go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/All, navigate to Browser and Market and try clearing the caches of both. This does help with the fc's.
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Go to Settings/Applications/Manage Applications/All, navigate to Browser and Market and try clearing the caches of both. This does help with the fc's.
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Browser fc when i try to play flash video, so I think it related to flash 10.2
Try to do a text search from Safari and let us know how that goes. I have the iPhone 4 and no text search = fail.
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Ye have a couple ipads here and one is for my 3 year old. I had to get her one after she figured out how to play angry birds Rio now she knows how to navigate net Flickr and watch kid moves and TV shows she even downloads games its crazy.... oh I have a zoom too and she can't figure it out lol
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That should be Apple's marketing strategy. "So easy a 3 year old can run it! And seniors too!"
Only force close i've had is from the facebook widget everytime i click on it... no force closes anywhere else, i'll use the browser more tomorrow on some flash intensive sites and see what happens
I'm rooted on the latest Tiamat version
xXy3kXx said:
Ye have a couple ipads here and one is for my 3 year old. I had to get her one after she figured out how to play angry birds Rio now she knows how to navigate net Flickr and watch kid moves and TV shows she even downloads games its crazy.... oh I have a zoom too and she can't figure it out lol
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Wow you got your 3 year old an ipad to play angry birds? Must have cash to burn homie
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I've had my 3G Xoom since day 1. This is my One month and then some Review.
I've found the Flash usage on sites in terms of both video, audio and animation content to be pretty damn smooth.
Sadly certain sites refuse to work with the stock browser most notable Channel4.com/4od and tvcatchup.com.
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Try to do a text search from Safari and let us know how that goes. I have the iPhone 4 and no text search = fail.
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- when i say "work" i mean it has to work at least 90-95% in all cases. Flash 10.2 on honeycomb can't approach that rate. i tested a lot of website this afternoon, watched a lot of flash video on my xoom, and i can only hear the sound or extremely choppy. However, flash 10.2 on my mytouch 4g, galasy s, even hd2- running android is far better than that.
- There is no custom room right now so i don't think i need to enable sdcard function. BTW, 32GB is enough for me.
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Flash does work at least 90-95% of the time.. It may lag a bit if the site is flash heavy along with bunch of ads. But it gets better once you zoom on the flash video that you actually wanna watch. I pad can't do that. Also, my mytouch4g can't play any song on mixcrate.com, but my xoom can. So I wouldn't really say that my mytouch4g's flash is better than my xooms.
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On the topic of the flash "issues". When I first got my xoom flash was sketchy at best. But once I rooted and blocked ads, I haven't had a problem.
P.s. having an sd card is great.
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Hi everyone, I'm Rob and I'm an iPad user......
I'm thinking about getting rid of the iPad due to the complete ballache of getting media onto the thing (via the hateful iTunes), the ridiculous Apple locking down of apps and having to jailbreak it to do what I want. The last straw is Apple stopping you from using iBooks to access bought content if the iPad is jailbroken which worries me as to what they will do next...
Now, I have a Milestone running Cyanogen Gingerbread and it is great but I'm wondering what happens if I log into my Google account on both devices at the same time. What happens with the apps, can I use them on both devices, will they appear on both devices if I install from the Marketplace? If I delete one from my phone, will it delete form the Tab? So many questions
Has anyone done the same thnig and have you regretted it?
Normally Apps are associated with the Ident number of the Phone, which is how developers get round individuals using a single license on multiple devices.
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Normally Apps are associated with the Ident number of the Phone, which is how developers get round individuals using a single license on multiple devices.
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I've not found that at all thus far.
I have several Android devices, all linked to the same account, and all running mostly the same apps. The only times they don't, are when there is another level of activation (e.g. CoPilot).
Google do provide a mechanism for developers to lock down their applications to a single device if they wish (see here), but I've yet to encounter such an application.
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Dave
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I've not found that at all thus far.
I have several Android devices, all linked to the same account, and all running mostly the same apps. The only times they don't, are when there is another level of activation (e.g. CoPilot).
Google do provide a mechanism for developers to lock down their applications to a single device if they wish (see here), but I've yet to encounter such an application.
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Dave
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Okay, fair point Dave.
My findings are based mostly on the Medical Apps I have installed and yes, Co-Pilot as one other.
Thanks for the replies chaps. I think the iPad is going to be replaced.
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Thanks for the replies chaps. I think the iPad is going to be replaced.
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Now that.... I can easily concur with...
I can't remember the last time I switched on my i-Pad.
... and I'm looking forward to getting the New Galaxy Tab 2 to add to my Samsung collection (Galaxy S & Tab)
I love the iPad itself and hardly ever switch on the laptop but it is Apples attitude to the user that if you don't want to conform to their way, you are to be stopped and treated like a criminal.
Also, with the Tab, I'll be able to copy and paste movies, music and photos onto it easily from my NAS. The iPad photos are reduced in size when copying over. I have 20Gb of family photos and want the full size version rather than a cut down version as a portable backup.
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I love the iPad itself and hardly ever switch on the laptop but it is Apples attitude to the user that if you don't want to conform to their way, you are to be stopped and treated like a criminal.
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I'm a former Ipad user and what I can say is you will miss the polish.
Things I hate about my tab
1. Browser
2. Youtube app
3. Picture app
4. It plays multiple audio sources at the same time. The ipad would phase one source out should you play something else.
5. No audio controls in the notification bar
Thinks I love about my tab
1. Email
2. Downloading media directly to the device
3. Torrent apps - love that I can dl directly to the device.
4. Form factor - I never read a thing on my ipad, I found it to large to use in bed whereas the tab is perfect.
5. Customization of the os - the things you don't like you can change.
In the end the ipad is a better consumer product, the galaxy tab is still running software designed for a phone. While it is a strong contender it won't be fair to judge the tab until it gets apps designed specificly for it and a proper os.
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I'm a former Ipad user and what I can say is you will miss the polish.
Things I hate about my tab
1. Browser
2. Youtube app
3. Picture app
4. It plays multiple audio sources at the same time. The ipad would phase one source out should you play something else.
5. No audio controls in the notification bar
Thinks I love about my tab
1. Email
2. Downloading media directly to the device
3. Torrent apps - love that I can dl directly to the device.
4. Form factor - I never read a thing on my ipad, I found it to large to use in bed whereas the tab is perfect.
5. Customization of the os - the things you don't like you can change.
In the end the ipad is a better consumer product, the galaxy tab is still running software designed for a phone. While it is a strong contender it won't be fair to judge the tab until it gets apps designed specificly for it and a proper os.
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Why do you hate the YouTube app? I think its much better than the ipad version.
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alex2792 said:
Why do you hate the YouTube app? I think its much better than the ipad version.
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Oh the app is okay but I felt the ipad offered higher resolutions. The videos always looked sharp as they do on a computer. On my tab a lot of videos look blurry.
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I hated ipad YouTube app it would always stutter when playing videos while the tab is smooth sailing. I do agree that stock browser sucks though.
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I was in the same boat - former iPad user. I have to say that the iPad certainly is more polished as a tablet (too many times Galaxy Tab acts like a giant phone), but I wound never go back. The size, the customization, and ability to do anything I want with it is a huge plus for me.
I do hope that at some point we will get a good port of Honeycomb, but not holding my breath. Gingerbread sure would be nice though, running it now on my Nexus One and I really like it.
you can have all your purchased apps on every device that meets the software requirements, as long as every device has the same gmail account on them.
and for the ipad....
what I love about my Gtab is the size, as other had mentioned, it's perfect for reading and holding with one hand
Im kindly sad that Samsung is going to the 10.1 inches race, although that's much better for browsing webpages than 7 inches.
In my Opinion (IMO) you should consider the LG Optimus pad if you want the best of both worlds, the size is smaller than the ipad (8.9") but at the same time is better for portability and reading like the Gtab
I agree the best device will be the LG tablet simply for the form factor.
I recall only bringing my ipad to work and using it at home. The tab goes everywhere because it fits in a pocket.
On another note if you get a gtab don't get the cdma version, its barely supported by the xda community.
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Yup agreed no problems using same account and apps on four devices i use daily.
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5. No audio controls in the notification bar
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Spoke to soon the sprint update adds audio controls in the notification bar. Thank god
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. Good to hear from ex iPad users who don't regret going to the Tab.
Already being an Android user (G1, Magic, Milestone), I know what to expect from the OS itself and love the customisability and community efforts, just wish I had the coding skills that some people on XDA have.
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Oh the app is okay but I felt the ipad offered higher resolutions. The videos always looked sharp as they do on a computer. On my tab a lot of videos look blurry.
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I think it's the other way around. The iPad's own resolution is low, so regular youtube videos look good. But the G-Tab's higher resolution makes regular youtube videos look bad. If you choose "HQ" streams in youtube, the videos look fine on the G-Tab.
The Tab is 1024x600 whereas the iPad is 1024x768 so the iPad is higher res.
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The Tab is 1024x600 whereas the iPad is 1024x768 so the iPad is higher res.
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Hmmm. but the size is different? 7" vs. 10"? Perhaps then it's the density that makes the difference?
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
Bye! You really didn't need to start a separate thread for this.
Come back when you're tired of iOS.
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Bye! You really didn't need to start a separate thread for this.
Come back when you're tired of iOS.
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Really? Would appreciate if non helpful replies be kept to themselve's as yours.
There will be no getting "tired" of iOS. I want a device that works.
When and if the Xoom will "Work" I will be back. Idc about what Operating System it carries. Android and iOS are both incredible.
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Really? Would appreciate if non helpful replies be kept to themselve's as yours.
There will be no getting "tired" of iOS. I want a device that works.
When and if the Xoom will "Work" I will be back. Idc about what Operating System it carries. Android and iOS are both incredible.
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If all you want is high profile video, I hope you don't get a notifcation or 20 while watching all those videos. I hear iOS notifications are wonderful when you're trying to concentrate on one thing.
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If all you're concerned with is high profile video get an Archos 101, and you'll be fine
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If all you're concerned with is high profile video get an Archos 101, and you'll be fine
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Owned 2 Archos products in my day.. Very mediocre cheap products compared to the rest. iPad 2 is my best bet for now. Obviously alot will hate on my decision but it's clearly the best "Tablet" as of now. Hopefully I will be able to re-enter the HoneyComb seen shortly as I love the potential.
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If all you want is high profile video, I hope you don't get a notifcation or 20 while watching all those videos. I hear iOS notifications are wonderful when you're trying to concentrate on one thing.
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I like all mobile devices. I like android more-so than ios, but man - you are about as bad a fanboy of android as the fanboys for apple. That is not something you should be impressed by.
I'm pretty sure you can turn ios notifications off if you need to. BTW.
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I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
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Just curious (and I mean this in nicest way possible)...why did you find it necessary to create a thread just to tell us you are getting rid of your Xoom?
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Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
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My Xoom never had any "foreclosure's" [sic].
jamaicansolja said:
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
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Both my wife and I have the Xoom. And we rarely get force closes if at all. The video complaint I can kinda understand but:
A.) How many 1080p movies can you fit on a Xoom or any mobile device anyway
B.) I am super confident it will be taken care by a Dev or Google itself
I will never go back to ios. A screen full of icons is so 1990s
I do find it amusing you want "multitasking" and yet you go with the ipad 2. Irony!
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I wonder when all the apple fanboys will go back to whatever message board is most appropriate to talk about apple products....
I owned an iPad for 10 months. I got my Xoom on day 1. With all of the Xoom's temporary shortcomings, I'd pick it over the iPad any day. Personally I feel that the iPad 2 is a joke - definately not worth upgrading from iPad to iPad2. It's like when the iPhone 3g got upgraded to the 3gs. Laughable!
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Just curious (and I mean this in nicest way possible)...why did you find it necessary to create a thread just to tell us you are getting rid of your Xoom?
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+1 explanation please.
Also, you complain about "non helpful" replies yet you started a whole "non helpful" thread. Where's the logic in that?
I wish people would realise that XDA forums are NOT for complaints.
You know apple fanboy == attention whore. :]
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Just curious (and I mean this in nicest way possible)...why did you find it necessary to create a thread just to tell us you are getting rid of your Xoom?
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Because I love the community and I will no longer see you folks.
Strange, ...
Are you sure that iPad2 is capable of playing that H.264 High Profile?
Have you checked the official spec of iPad2?
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/
Video formats supported: H.264 video up to 720p, 30 frames per second, Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps per channel, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; Motion JPEG (M-JPEG) up to 35 Mbps, 1280 by 720 pixels, 30 frames per second, audio in ulaw, PCM stereo audio in .avi file format
Nothing mentioned high profile ...
jamaicansolja said:
I returned my Xoom yesterday to Best Buy( No Re-Stocking Fee) in Prep for the iPad2.
Sadly, the ONLY reason i'm returning is because of Tegra2 and it's depressing ability for High Profile video.
Kind of crazy all I really need is a great multimedia experience and my Xoom just wasn't it! So many foreclosure's if I have even 3-4 Tab's open in the browser.
I hope Moto/Google fixes this issue I have no problem buying one again in the future.
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Both my wife and I have the Xoom. And we rarely get force closes if at all. The video complaint I can kinda understand but:
A.) How many 1080p movies can you fit on a Xoom or any mobile device anyway
B.) I am super confident it will be taken care by a Dev or Google itself
I will never go back to ios. A screen full of icons is so 1990s
I do find it amusing you want "multitasking" and yet you go with the ipad 2. Irony!
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I'm pretty sure he said multimedia man lol
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Both my wife and I have the Xoom. And we rarely get force closes if at all. The video complaint I can kinda understand but:
A.) How many 1080p movies can you fit on a Xoom or any mobile device anyway
B.) I am super confident it will be taken care by a Dev or Google itself
I will never go back to ios. A screen full of icons is so 1990s
I do find it amusing you want "multitasking" and yet you go with the ipad 2. Irony!
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A) Very True. But, I should be able to easily fit 720P video and/or be able to get software that can decode for me correct? Having to convert manually will never be a solution in 2011 for me to play on a Tablet.
B) This is Theory.
I do want to multi-task I actually sold my iPad for the Xoom; because I have all Android phones*.
I love the screen full of iCons once customized. I think this is also opinion. I love BOTH Android and iOS. But "Honeycomb" just isn't ready for the public. And we don't know how long untill we get updated officially. I root my device's but don't like to really tweak to much. So, even if a XDA hack solution is available I and the common folk won't use it.
The Xoom is sexy and I F*(&*(& Miss it like HELL right now!!!
But, I remember how easy it was to just upload a dam 720P Starcraft2 video from YouTube downloader.
Quite funny as to why you actually went for Xoom in first place?
Just read 1 of the article & it actually sums up entire Tablet war....
1)Various so called websites{Engadget--funded by Steve Restriction Jobs & others} complaints are glitches, battery life, and slowdowns. Yes, glitches and slowdowns are there. Do they ruin/hinder the experience at all? Heck no. People fail to realize that Android Honeycomb is a much more sophisticated interface than iOS. When you take into account everything Android does over iOS (widgets, customization, live wallpapers, true multitasking, better web browsing etc.), of course battery life and performance will take small hits. But in the grand scheme of things, Android has improved tenfold from Android 1.0 and performs amazingly well for everything it does. iOS is an app driven interface, which isn’t a bad thing, but the user has no freedom to customize the device to make it their own. The experience gets boring for someone who has used iDevices for a few years now. If you took a tech blogger’s iPad and compared it to a random 80-year old grandmother’s iPad, they would nearly look identical. But if you took my Xoom and compared it to anyone else’s in the world, I guarantee they would look completely different.
2)It isn’t fair to compare the performance of Android Honeycomb to iOS for previously stated reasons. I get a laugh when a tech journalist “compares” Android Honeycomb to iOS and says Honeycomb isn’t as fast and continues on to crown iOS/the iPad 2 like it’s perfect. Someone who reviews technology for a living should make it clear that Android has much more going on at any given time compared to iOS.
3)Another funny thing I see people say a lot is the Motorola Xoom/Android Honeycomb will never be as popular as the iPad 2/iOS. Uhh, okay? Why does it matter to YOU which one is more popular? Use both, see which one you like more, and go with it. Android Honeycomb will catch on and so will the Motorola Xoom. They aren’t aimed at the same audiences. Apple markets the iPad as this magical, cute, family friendly device while the Xoom is marketed as this totally bad ass, rugged machine that can turn into a spaceship if you try to grab it.
This guy has just summed up the entire Android 3.0 Honeycomb story.
iPad an oversized ipod Touch Tablet
I'm not a fanboy but can someone please explain to me why it's so difficult to play Video on this thing? Can someone also explain why the browser crashes? My device wasn't rooted but it would crash if it had to many tab's open and when I moved to quickly between them. Completely stock with only CNN tablet app installed.
What i'm saying is I paid 847$ for this. I expect it to just play the standard of HD Video. If it cannot handle this standard, you will have to decode the video specifically to this standard. Some as you see on the forums are still having this issue with certain solutions.
This iPad as a ex user didn't have these issues with video. So ofcourse the iPad2 will improve. BUT I feel the Xoom is better hardware so the problem is "how" long will the wait of fix be? I then see an Update that doesn't even list anything about Flash, SD Card Support, but a Time fix?
Hi Guys,
I am a big Android fan. I have Droid X and bought the Xoom the first day it came out. Was very happy with my Xoom untill my brother got the new IPAD2. It's lighter, thinner and the screen blows the Xoom screen, The Xoom screen colors are washed out, if you open the same image on both ipad and Xoom you will understand what I am talking about , its the contrast ratio ! I paid $800 plus tax for a device with mediocre screen and below average contrast ratio ! That's why Apple will stay the best and the top company as they don't compromise their quality and now even their price is unbeatable.
Also it was a big surprise that all the websites I browsed worked better on the Ipad browser. Engadget, Android central, and Cnet websites worked perfectly including the embedded Videos and I don't know how the video is playing while the Ipad does not have flash ? Managed to play the videos on my Xoom using the new flash 10.2 but it is not as clear and smooth and high resolutions as the ipad.
Friendly Facebook for ipad blows any Android app I ever seen, all other Apps including the new Weather bug for Honeycomb is not as good as the Ipads. Only the Pulse app is almost the same on both platforms.
Even though the Xoom resolution is higher, everything on the ipad looks smoother and much better with brilliant colors.
Now, I am not sure what is the thing that I can do with the Xoom and can't do it using the ipad. To be Frank I went back and checked my receipt to return the Xoom and buy an ipad but unfortunately I passed the 14 days return policy for Best Buy.
I wont sell it in Craigslist and loose some money, its a good tablet but I should not look at the ipad screen as it really irritates me.
Please drop a line with your thoughts
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I just farted.
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All I can say is be happy with what you have and stop comparing what you have to what you don't have.
There are just as many good points over the ipad as there are good points over the xoom. Get over it.
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Thanks for the advice
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ahmadddd said:
Also it was a big surprise that all the websites I browsed worked better on the Ipad browser. Engadget, Android central, and Cnet websites worked perfectly including the embedded Videos and I don't know how the video is playing while the Ipad does not have flash ? Managed to play the videos on my Xoom using the new flash 10.2 but it is not as clear and smooth and high resolutions as the ipad.
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When you sell 15 million iPads in 9 months and over 100 million iphones, websites generally will make sure their content plays kindly with your devices. All of those websites detect if you are on an iPad and display content that works well on the ipad (HTML5 video for example). Some websites go into a special ipad tablet mode when you go to them. I think the NYT does this. That is why Steve Jobsy says flash is unnecessary, because he has 115 million devices in the wild and he knows websites will do what they can to accommodate those users instead of potentially missing out on that giant block of traffic. That will not be changing this year when the iPad2 really takes off either.
Yup and frankly speaking HTML5 is much better as videos looked much better than our flash with less battery consumption and very smooth scrolling.
But the question is I thought that Honeycomb supports HTML 5 , so why we can't play the videos without flash and just like the ipad ?
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Sell it and get an iPad. Get what makes you happy. I'm fortunate, my wife and I currently have iPad 1s and I'm selling both of them. My wife is getting a new iPad 2 and I have a new Xoom. This way we have both in our house and I can use an ipad 2 whenever I feel like it (its actually my account so all my apps are on there anyway ).
Reality is, this religious war people have is freaking ridiculous. Just buy whatever makes you happy. One thing to note though about market share, last year when the iPhone 4 came out it blew away every Android phone on the market in benchmarks, specs, screen, apps, etc. and Apple was dominating the smartphone market.
Guess who's leading the smartphone market with leaps and bounds 1 year later?
mobilehavoc said:
Sell it and get an iPad. Get what makes you happy. I'm fortunate, my wife and I currently have iPad 1s and I'm selling both of them. My wife is getting a new iPad 2 and I have a new Xoom. This way we have both in our house and I can use an ipad 2 whenever I feel like it (its actually my account so all my apps are on there anyway ).
Reality is, this religious war people have is freaking ridiculous. Just buy whatever makes you happy. One thing to note though about market share, last year when the iPhone 4 came ut it blew away every Android phone on the market in benchmarks, specs, screen, apps, etc. and Apple was dominating the smartphone market.
Guess who's leading the smartphone market with leaps and bounds 1 year later?
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The power of a free people.
ahmadddd said:
Yup and frankly speaking HTML5 is much better as videos looked much better than our flash with less battery consumption and very smooth scrolling.
But the question is I thought that Honeycomb supports HTML 5 , so why we can't play the videos without flash and just like the ipad ?
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HTML5 video works on Android 2.3, however I don't know about Honeycomb. I set my user agent to iPad with Dolphin Browser HD and HTML5 video worked perfectly.
Edit: You don't even have to do this. Just try HTML5 only video websites. I assume the same should apply to Honeycomb as well, if not that would be odd... I don't think I'm going to be using Flash for a while actually, as long as the site supports HTML5.
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HTML5 video works on Android 2.3, however I don't know about Honeycomb. I set my user agent to iPad with Dolphin Browser HD and HTML5 video worked perfectly.
Edit: You don't even have to do this. Just try HTML5 video websites. I assume the same should apply to Honeycomb as well, if not that would be odd... I don't think I'm going to be using Flash for a while actually, as long as the site supports HTML5.
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i'm using dolphin HD browser and have it set on IPAD for user agent. works wonderfully..
too bad you can't switch user agents on IOS. shhh, don't tell the OP of this thread that you can do things like this on ANDROID.
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HTML5 video works on Android 2.3, however I don't know about Honeycomb. I set my user agent to iPad with Dolphin Browser HD and HTML5 video worked perfectly.
Edit: You don't even have to do this. Just try HTML5 video websites. I assume the same should apply to Honeycomb as well, if not that would be odd... I don't think I'm going to be using Flash for a while actually, as long as the site supports HTML5.
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i'm using dolphin HD browser and have it set on IPAD for user agent. works wonderfully..
too bad you can't switch user agents on IOS
Thanks for the.advise, tried it and it worked but provided that I disablebthe flash plugin the choose Ipad agent. The videos plays using the Xoom video player in a new full size page which is fine but still not like the ipad that can play the embedded video within the same page with a full screen option.
But if I enable the plugin it will use flash even if I choose Ipad agent.
Thanks again
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ryan562 said:
i'm using dolphin HD browser and have it set on IPAD for user agent. works wonderfully..
too bad you can't switch user agents on IOS. shhh, don't tell the OP of this thread that you can do things like this on ANDROID.
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Actually you can download browsers from the app store that support user agent switching.
albundy2010 said:
I just farted.
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Lololol
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ahmadddd said:
Please drop a line with your thoughts
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Keep on rockin in the free world.
ahmadddd said:
That's why Apple will stay the best and the top company as they don't compromise their quality
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Are you kidding??
I would hardly call the iPad 2 a quality built device:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1114606
After seeing all the pics in that thread, and hearing that Apple Geniuses are telling people that all iPad 2's do this so it's normal, I wouldn't pay a hundred bucks for one. It's obvious from that thread just why the iPad has a good price. Apple used cheap parts and POOR quality control. I considered an iPad 2 to go with my Xoom, but not now...it's crap.
You sure that isn't just a manufacture error that will be fixed?
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Are you kidding??
I would hardly call the iPad 2 a quality built device:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1114606
After seeing all the pics in that thread, and hearing that Apple Geniuses are telling people that all iPad 2's do this so it's normal, I wouldn't pay a hundred bucks for one. It's obvious from that thread just why the iPad has a good price. Apple used cheap parts and POOR quality control. I considered an iPad 2 to go with my Xoom, but not now...it's crap.
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Wow that is really bad.
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I have both the Xoom & the iPad 2, and to be honest, I'm using the iPad 2 a lot more than the Xoom, design wise they both have their pros and cons, same thing with hardware and build quality, I do however like the design of the Xoom a bit more and i like the feel more than the iPad just seems like its better put together to me. As for the power button on the Xoom, I'm not sure why people hate it, coming from the Viewsonic Gtab & a variety of other chinese tablets I think the button is great, I've never accidently hit it before. Anyways, I've got my Xoom about 3 days after it launched and only played with it for about 2 days max, cause frankly the apps just aren't there yet since it is a new device after all and there are still lots of bugs to work out this I understand. I've never owned the original iPad and was on the fence about the iPad 2 until I saw the specs for it, the dual core processor was what sold me on the iPad 2. Since getting it on launch day, I haven't been able to put it down, great device (yes, i hate the stupid iPhone UI) but the apps are years a head of the android apps, I love tinkering and customizing my devices with custom roms etc, but I find for daily use right now, the iPad 2 is a much better device since it has so much app support right now. Of course this could all change in about 6-12 months when more developers make apps for Honeycomb. Still, I find the overall quality of iPad apps/iPhone apps are better than android apps. My only gripe with the iPad is the crappy screen resolution on the iPad, sure the IPS screen has better viewing angles then the Xoom screen, but when you're looking straight at it you can tell the Xoom screen looks much sharper because of the resolution, if only Apple increased the screen resolution.
Anyways, both great devices but like I said the only thing that sucks on the Xoom is the app support right now which should be fixed in a few months once more devices are available. Totally different platforms, anyways, in my opinion the Xoom probably wont do 1/10th of the iPad sales just because the mass market wont get this device. Cause at this moment the iPad 2 is a much better functioning device, browsing is easier, and smoother, no (atleast I haven't had one) forced closes, it just seems like a more complete device for the mass market and I really think apple is smart for having their tiered pricing. So don't expect any SD card slot or anythign like that, cause if they do add an SD Card slot, then there is no incentive for people to buy the 64GB version.
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You sure that isn't just a manufacture error that will be fixed?
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Well who knows? But more than a few users have commented in that thread saying the ipad 1 had the same issue but to a lesser degree and that apple never did fix it. They are now seriously worried that they won't fix it this time either. Look how apple reacted to the iphone 4 antenna issue. Maybe they should stop looking at the ipad2 that way At any rate I'm not risking my time and money on a device with a screen that looks like that.
I know that I want an Android tablet. absolutely love this OS.
my questtion...is the transformer good for me?
I travel a lot....live tinkering with the software with Android development. other than that I need it for watching movies and videos and surfing the web. love the SDcard slot. thanks all!
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you cant watch 720p videos. well you can hardware encode it but no sound, software encode is laggy.
thats about it. everything else is great. theres a GREAT deal around TigerDirect @ eBay right now
about ~$480 for 32GB + headphones ($90) + SD Card.. if you want it, then get it. deal ending soon
so when you say no sound...it doesn't play 720 videos that well overall?
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With 3.1 it plays tons of videos without issue. 720 specifically, I have not tried but I've seen plenty of videos showing that it can since 3.1 was released. I love my transformer and highly recommend it.
drs6222 said:
I know that I want an Android tablet. absolutely love this OS.
my questtion...is the transformer good for me?
I travel a lot....live tinkering with the software with Android development. other than that I need it for watching movies and videos and surfing the web. love the SDcard slot. thanks all!
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Is it just me or are there already about 1,000,000 other versions of this exact post, comparing the Transformer to other tablets?
zephiK said:
you cant watch 720p videos. well you can hardware encode it but no sound, software encode is laggy.
thats about it. everything else is great. theres a GREAT deal around TigerDirect @ eBay right now
about ~$480 for 32GB + headphones ($90) + SD Card.. if you want it, then get it. deal ending soon
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3.1 plays High profile 720P without any issue at all.....
you need to look at the codec for the audio stream if you are not getting any sound.. for example, AC3 is not supported by hardware encode.
I'd go for something else. I've had the TF for aweek and it's nothing but a headache. The browser is unreliable. It'll open new tabs when you click a link, when you wanted it in the same tab. It crashes if you try to o anything quickly, like open a tab you just closed. Tex t input (like this comment) is painfully laggy with the dock. Don't get me started on the dock. the functionkeys are silly (3 keys for screen brightness? caps lock? ) and sometimes stop working for no reason. It's a pain to get it all the way in, to the point where I thought mine was broken because I hadnt pressed it down all the way.
The remote desktop software is just bad.
so spend the extra 100 for the galaxy?
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so spend the extra 100 for the galaxy?
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All tablets use the same ROM of Stock Honeycomb. GT will include their TouchWiz in a future OTA. So... it won't be much different.
All of the tablets are pretty similar. I personally love it, go to a store or something and try it out.
thanks...I Obviously love Android so its going to come down to hardware
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I'd go for something else. I've had the TF for aweek and it's nothing but a headache. The browser is unreliable. It'll open new tabs when you click a link, when you wanted it in the same tab. It crashes if you try to o anything quickly, like open a tab you just closed. Tex t input (like this comment) is painfully laggy with the dock. Don't get me started on the dock. the functionkeys are silly (3 keys for screen brightness? caps lock? ) and sometimes stop working for no reason. It's a pain to get it all the way in, to the point where I thought mine was broken because I hadnt pressed it down all the way.
The remote desktop software is just bad.
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I've had mine for a month now, and haven't had any if the issues you are describing.
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I have the TF101 32gb, Flyer 32gb, iPad 64gb. After my first real week traveling with TF101, it had amazing battery with keyboard dock, great using Evernote for meetings, and loaded 12 movies on 64GB SD card for viewing 720 movies... great little device with a few ticks here and there but overall happy with it.
drs6222 said:
I know that I want an Android tablet. absolutely love this OS.
my questtion...is the transformer good for me?
I travel a lot....live tinkering with the software with Android development. other than that I need it for watching movies and videos and surfing the web. love the SDcard slot. thanks all!
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1. I travel a lot - The TF is quite slim and lightweight, good battery life too, ideal.
2. Tinkering/development - I'd say it's the ideal tablet on that front too, a well supported dev section.
3. Watching movies - As good as any other Android tablet by the looks of it.
4. Surfing the web - Yep, it'll do that, with flash too.
It's a well priced tablet in comparison, has some QC issues but for the price ...
ya get the TF and dock it ownz, use it constantly and was a great vacation gadget
Battery life is king for travelers!
From what you describe I would have thought that the extra battery life granted by the dock is a major selling point for you. I particularly like the intelligent battery handling between the dock and tablet.
Hardware performance wise I don't think you'll find a huge range of difference between the honeycomb tablets - unless 3G is important to you.
I found the easiest way to choose was to head down to the local store and try them all out. Personally I find the TF really comfortable to handle - but that comes down to personal preference.
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I'd go for something else. I've had the TF for aweek and it's nothing but a headache. The browser is unreliable. It'll open new tabs when you click a link, when you wanted it in the same tab. It crashes if you try to o anything quickly, like open a tab you just closed. Tex t input (like this comment) is painfully laggy with the dock. Don't get me started on the dock. the functionkeys are silly (3 keys for screen brightness? caps lock? ) and sometimes stop working for no reason. It's a pain to get it all the way in, to the point where I thought mine was broken because I hadnt pressed it down all the way.
The remote desktop software is just bad.
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Never has one of these problems.
Transformer seems to be the best option all around for honeycomb. Hardware wise they are all the same
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best case?
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Other than the laggy and pathetic stock browser, I have no complaints with this device. Like it
So which browser is the best one to DL?
And for some reason the dock doesn't sound too appealing to me....maybe once I have it I will change my mind. Is there any other tablets with memory card slot?
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So which browser is the best one to DL?
And for some reason the dock doesn't sound too appealing to me....maybe once I have it I will change my mind. Is there any other tablets with memory card slot?
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I personally use Dolphin Browser. But I also love the stock browser included, very well sync'd with Google Chrome.
So, because there's been a forum lull (in my opinion) lets talk, what is the best way to stick it to ipad and ipad 2 owners who don't have xooms?
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I wouldn't own an iPad but IMHO, there isn't an Android tablet that just blows it out of the water. I'm sure I'll get blasted for not being a die-hard fanboi but honestly, I can see why the iPad is very appealing to the average consumer that isn't into the hacking/modding scene.
With that being said, these are the things that keep me loyal to Android that iOS can't/won't offer:
Google and Manufacturer support of the development communicating (AOSP, "fastboot oem unlock", etc)
True multi-tasking
Everything is OTA, no desktop software
Deep Google integration (Gmail, Gtalk, Docs, Books, Music, etc)
Tethering without rooting
Show them literally any widget, theme or customization... And then blow their minds with that whole sd card thing (they won't know what it is at first)
Well I whip out my 1TB HDD and OTG and play a movie from my HDD. I could also hook up my PS3, N64, Xbox controller and play emulators. If we're outside I just whip out my BT OBD11 sensor and Torque app to troubleshoot my car.
I need to figure out why mine lags like a bastard every time I attempt to show it off to someone, but will be buttery smooth when I'm using it by myself.
I sit there customizing widgets while pulling live data from others. They look and say, " what's that? " Android Xoom... Buddy. Then they say how are you online? I pull out the old trusty EVO with Cyanogenmod and say " It goes where I go " thanks to Android. They usually have this look of awe. Inside I have this feeling of satisfaction.
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I use my xoom at work all the time and the owner's daughters loved it, so they bought iPads. Apple users stick to apple products, there's no converting them.
VaKo said:
I need to figure out why mine lags like a bastard every time I attempt to show it off to someone, but will be buttery smooth when I'm using it by myself.
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Haha...happens to me too.
I think my Xoom is shy, or has a wicked sense of humor.
VaKo said:
I need to figure out why mine lags like a bastard every time I attempt to show it off to someone, but will be buttery smooth when I'm using it by myself.
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Are you using the stock launcher?Slap ADW launcher on that baby & watch her fly!
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Arun01 said:
Are you using the stock launcher?Slap ADW launcher on that baby & watch her fly!
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Yeah, especially with Tachi oc gpu kernel.
VaKo said:
I need to figure out why mine lags like a bastard every time I attempt to show it off to someone, but will be buttery smooth when I'm using it by myself.
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Maybe you should overclock. Yeah that happened to me once before but they were still impressed by its capabilities.
Ipad/Ipad 2 has it's place as many consumers want functionality right out of the box with little tweaking. The interface is very user friendly and there are a slew of accessories for it. I prefer Android tablets for customization and the fact that if we were just going on specs alone it is a more capable machine. I wish we had more photo apps though.
I can't be bothered to overclock and so forth, as I said it works fine when I'm using it. But for instance, when I needed to review a PDF in the bank the entire thing ground to a halt and sat there mocking me while the teller ranted on about young people and paper.
As for the launcher, I do like the stock one and so far the replacements designed for phones are somewhat lacking compared to it.
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I can't be bothered to overclock and so forth, as I said it works fine when I'm using it. But for instance, when I needed to review a PDF in the bank the entire thing ground to a halt and sat there mocking me while the teller ranted on about young people and paper.
As for the launcher, I do like the stock one and so far the replacements designed for phones are somewhat lacking compared to it.
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You should consider ADW ex...it's made for tablets and gives you up to seven screens, lots of customization and it's really smooth.
I constantly show myself my Xoom to impress myself.
Then I whip out my iPad2 while my Xoom is choking on some random process.
Then I show myself my Xoom again.
Then I put them both down and play with a Touchpad.
I have yet to find an iPad owner who's actually excited by what I have to a show them.
Apple product users enjoy exactly how those things are marketed. They were sold on them before they were even made.
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I need to figure out why mine lags like a bastard every time I attempt to show it off to someone, but will be buttery smooth when I'm using it by myself.
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Funny how that happens. Same problem here
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i agree that ipad owners are happy with their device... they also like the smell of their own behind (similar to the south park ep where they use hybrids) this is because of their continual claim that it is the best no matter the pitfalls... android is definitely not the bug free product however the customization and development and the openness on the whole model of google makes you place a little more trust... even if they may screw you to your face, apple screws you behind your back... so to speak
How about an embedded flash video?
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