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New developers where to start

I am starting this thread in hopes of learning more about the epic and how make my own roms and kernels and all storts of goodies my hope is that all the new people like myself can read this thread and learn what they need to know in order to become great developers
So my first question is how do you make your own rom?
(please if you are a new developer stay in this thread with your questions)
"and for all the more exp developers please help the new developers"

josephrr21 said:
I am starting this thread in hopes of learning more about the epic and how make my own roms and kernels and all storts of goodies my hope is that all the new people like myself can read this thread and learn what they need to know in order to become great developers
So my first question is how do you make your own rom?
(please if you are a new developer stay in this thread with your questions)
"and for all the more exp developers please help the new developers"
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Get on irc id be glad to help you out. Don't listen to the people who are going to try and discourage you.

bubby323 said:
Get on irc id be glad to help you out. Don't listen to the people who are going to try and discourage you.
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That's the kind of attitude I like to see. Thank you bubby323, you maybe young, but you have a lot of maturity.
Way to set an example.

Id defo love to help out, its too many selfish, arrogant, assholes who dont wanna help out the community and just want fame

This is what we need to see, more people trying to get involved.
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josephrr21, you got my support

I would like to start developing for the we epic . I have a linux box trying to get it set up . I have tried to get everything like it says on cyanogen to build from source just not very proficient at linux . Any help is very welcomed . Like where to start . Thanks
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Kingmac38 said:
I would like to start developing for the we epic . I have a linux box trying to get it set up . I have tried to get everything like it says on cyanogen to build from source just not very proficient at linux . Any help is very welcomed . Like where to start . Thanks
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If your looking for a good place to start, I would say this would be it. A good dev here showed me this link when I asked him much the same question.
http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html

Thank you very much a good start
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You got my support!!!

If you really want to play around check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
This can be used on any rom!!

Thanks for clearing that up . I didn't know if it would work or not since it said htc and not just android kitchen. Thank you very much
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Wow I know.this a dumb queztion but what is the irc and thanks guys for.all.the support lets keep this thread.like this ,this is what me and alot of other developers need

Irc = internet relay chat
Popular clients are mirc and xchat.
I'm currently trying pidgin.
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Mammon88 said:
If you really want to play around check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
This can be used on any rom!!
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If you like the more, in-depth, manual approach to learning. Below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1

first of all get a dedicated irc client, they tend to be soo much better then the all in ones.
second i dont know much about development but i am fairly knowledgeable able all around android
when you get an irc client (xchat ftw) there is a sticky with the required info

Damn... This is some nice info. Now I'll never go to bed. Thanks!
If this was 2 weeks ago... you would have never got this, it seems a happiness has come to the Epic Forums. lol
Now if only we could talk noobnl into staying.

First its how you approach things. Coming on here and demanding a Gingerbread port in 15 minutes is just dumb. Asking for resources... Great. I've saved some on my toolbar for firefox. I have an idea, but want to do more research myself before I cook something up. Its not something I'd personally use, but I know a lot of people have asked for it on here.

[Journal] My Road to Becoming a Great Developer

My Road to Becoming a Great Developer
Intro
Hello I am Kifno. I have had my HTC Hero CDMA for a short period of time and I've fallen in love with it and everything about it. I love testing out other developer's apps, tweaks, mods, themes, roms, kernels, etc. I also have recently gotten into the modding and tweaking aspect of our hero's too. Some of you may know me from my tweaked build.prop's. But I have decided that I want to be known as a great developer for the HTC Hero CDMA. I am going to keep this thread as a journal during my journey to becoming a great developer, posting what I have learned, accomplished, created, modded, tweaked, etc. that is making me one step closer to reaching that goal. Hopefully during my journey you all will appreciate some of my work for our HTC hero CDMA devices.
1/22/11
- Working on v0.7 of my tweaked build.prop's
- reading the c programming language (chapter 1)
My Work So Far
Kifno's[Tweaked] Build.prop v0.6​

reserved for future use

reserved for future use #2

reserved for future use #3

last reserved post i think that'll be all i need

Developer for editing a text file values? Right, I wonder what programming that is? By the way, does Aosp know your editing his builds and redistributing them?

thats a lot of reservations!

I'M ON A JOURNEY TO BE THE GREATEST DEV FOR THE HTC HERO CDMA
good luck, we already have the best dev's for it.

SimranSingh said:
Developer for editing a text file values? Right, I wonder what programming that is? By the way, does Aosp know your editing his builds and redistributing them?
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I'm new to becoming a developer. My first piece of work is simple, editing the build.prop from other developer's roms. And I'm learning how to program and learn the c language and learning java so I can do bigger and better things for the HTC Hero CDMA. And as a matter of fact not only did I make a editing build.prop for aosp but aosp as of last 2 updates to his new gingerbread rom has implemented my editing build.prop into his gingerbread rom by default so I'm pretty sure aosp know's i'm editing the build.prop to make the hero better for the community. That is why aosp is keeping it implemented into his rom by default. Please be positive here I'm on a journey to become a great dev and all great dev's started small okay. Remember I'm NEW to becoming a dev.
dburg84 said:
thats a lot of reservations!
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Yeah I plan on sticking with the HTC Hero CDMA for a WHILE!

No need to be negative guys. At least he's going out and working for it. That's a lot more than 90% of people here can say. Most are too lazy to learn and want others to do it for them. Really can't believe that on xda we have at least two guys who who would actually try and discourage someone from developing. I think you guys need to check yourselves. Pathetic.
To kifno, goodluck friend and best wishes! I can't wait to see what you do!
Sent from my 2.2 Hero

Wow lets watch the negative.. Glad there are still people who want to progress the hero.. And he isn't taking claim of anyones rom he is editing the build.prop giving people some extra tweaks to make our phones quicker.. Kudos on your hard work kifno and there are some big shoes to fill around here and someone needs to do it.. I plan on trying but its hard to make time with life right now for me, so thank you for giving it a shot..
Sent from my awesome hero using XDA App

Darch was the greatest and I believe he retired the cdma hero lol
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dirkyd3rk said:
Darch was the greatest and I believe he retired the cdma hero lol
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Unfortunately for the hero I believe you are right..
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pstevep said:
Unfortunately for the hero I believe you are right..
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Fortunately aosp still has one.

MrDowntown12 said:
No need to be negative guys.
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I think you guys need to check yourselves. Pathetic.
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No need to be negative.

stayclean said:
Fortunately aosp still has one.
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amen to that
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I agree.... Good luck cant wait to see some more of ur work....

androidnoob111 said:
I agree.... Good luck cant wait to see some more of ur work....
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By the time he becomes a "great dev " he will be the only person owning a cdma heroc, 3ghz processors will be out lmfao
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not that i'm going to stop learning how to develope things for the hero but why does everyone have to just be so negative......i just want to help everyone
but i'm going to continue learning regardless of what others say

kifno said:
not that i'm going to stop learning how to develope things for the hero but why does everyone have to just be so negative......i just want to help everyone
but i'm going to continue learning regardless of what others say
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We aren't trying to be negative. Our point is that you haven't developed anything in reality. Just editing a properties in a file isn't developing, but it does take some knowledge to know what you are going to edit . Nonetheless, you are trying to become the greatest developer, but really you are in the 1st chapter of your C Programming book. It's going to take you maybe another 3 - 5 books to actually understand what's happening. Instead of striving to become the "Greatest" developer, why not focus on just becoming a developer at first

CyanogenMod Epic maintainer stepped down, transition successful

I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!

noobnl said:
I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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wait... what?

I guess you're leaving for good (again)?

apatcas said:
wait... what?
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He gave all his work to the cyanogenmod team and is probably leaving for good... but I don't know completely
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Peace
10 Char

noobnl said:
I handed off CyanogenMod 6/7 work to other developers, transition is successful i wish you guys luck and have fun!
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LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?

ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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Nah man regardless just got to the developer section and see how many topics are started by noobl or reference him. Dude is important on these forums and we which him the best because lets face it he did a lot of good around here.

ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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noobnl has done more for the epic than most people on this forum have, and only a handful of developers have contributed equal or more. most of the people who post here and make roms simply theme a few files and call it developing. what you need to understand that even though they have cm7 booting, noob had cm6 booting months ago, that isn't the hard part. the hard part is getting the radios and data to work, noob did this with help from very few people, and it took a long time (because he largely did it by himself minus help from skeeterslint forcystos and a few others) but so far not ONE other people have managed to accomplish this task.
:middlefinger:

I wish him the the best, and also we don't know what happened behind closed doors, metaphorically speaking. So lets just leave it at this.
Sent From My Command Center... (aka basement)

The proper reply to this post is "Thanks for all your hard work and dedication noobnl! i hope you decide to help out more in the future"

ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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You probably shouldn't run your mouth (fingers?) without learning a bit of history, not-so-ScientificOne. As others have stated, noobnl has contributed much of the early work that current development is built upon...
noobnl, thanks for the work you did to get us this far!

Appreciate your work man. I'm sure your sweat equity will be beneficial to everyone in getting this off the ground.

Thanks for all the hard work you put into both the CM6 project and the Epic as a whole. Your efforts have gotten us really far in this game. Even for the stuff you indirectly accomplished, like gaining the attention of some of the more seasoned devs, so that we could get more stuff done.
You're definitely a great resource and this community is better for it.

I hope I'm as cool as noobnl when I grow up.

+1 thanks.
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ScientificOne said:
LOL....they started CM7 without your help, starting from scratch and to my knowledge avoided referring to your "work"
And from the looks of it, they've accomplished more in 2 days than you had in weeks...
Oh, and this new thread isn't really necessary is it?
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High level of douchebaggery in this post.
Anyways, like everyone else said, thanks for all your work and contributions
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Thanks for everything you've done, its appreciated... how long until you come back??
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dmanwithnoname said:
I hope I'm as cool as noobnl when I grow up.
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I hope I never grow up ;-)
Thanx for all of your past work noobnl, hope to see you back contributing someday...
sent by an Epic4g through the cosmos

AmericanJedi001 said:
You probably shouldn't run your mouth (fingers?) without learning a bit of history, not-so-ScientificOne. As others have stated, noobnl has contributed much of the early work that current development is built upon...
noobnl, thanks for the work you did to get us this far!
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My post may have been a little harsh, but obviously you don't know what you're talking about. In regards to CM7, the team of Dameon and others aren't relying on what noobnl has contributed. In fact, who do you think this blog post was aimed towards?
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/a-note-on-unofficial-ports-and-how-to-get-it-right
Dameon and others are trying to get it done the "right way".
It appears, to me at least, that noobnl is attempting (by starting this thread) to get some kind of credit for the work they're putting together, which is probably very little, if any. And if any, I'm sure he'll get the credit he deserves.
Sure, noobnl has done a lot for the community, I for one certainly appreciate it, but that's not what this thread is about now is it?

hmmm, so sounds like we have two dev-groups working on CM now because I'm pretty sure the recently announced group working on CM7 basically said straight up they had yet to even look at noobls progress bc it wasn't actually CM worthy and bc they started group up.
so using logic we can see that noobls 'transition' is to a different group. to bad he won't enlighten us on who that other group is. imagine that, half a statement that tells us not much at all and then some "look at me and what i did" statement, as usual.

Kifno's Lessons

I would like to start teaching people about android so if you would like to learn from me about:
- Making Roms
- Scripting
- Modding
- Theming
Then please post here what you'd like to learn about and PM me as well and I'll send you a lesson every night or every other night about that category. You can choose all 4 or just 1. It doesn't matter I'm here to help you, yeah YOU!
- Kifno

I'd like to just understand more about all of the topics. Not to be a dev, but just to be able to communicate better on this forum about it. Like I understand digitals VMS os but always hated to work with unix, so I learned very little about it.. What is scripting ? what is meant by modding, etc.
Thanks Kevin, Ted O.

Houndog101 said:
I'd like to just understand more about all of the topics. Not to be a dev, but just to be able to communicate better on this forum about it. Like I understand digitals VMS os but always hated to work with unix, so I learned very little about it.. What is scripting ? what is meant by modding, etc.
Thanks Kevin, Ted O.
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Modding as in learning what I do in my tweak
Scripting is I'll give you bash script lessons

Also the lessons won't start until next week sometime because I wan to gather a group of students first. Right now I have a small class of 8 people. I'm only starting next week so that I can make a plan on where I'm going to start teaching you and the process I'm going to go about teaching you more (what should I teach you after what I previously taught you so that the lessons flow together). but I'm sure I can teach you all enough so that you all can start doing something for xda too

I wanna learn how to port and make my own rom, add me to your list!

someonenewhere said:
I wanna learn how to port and make my own rom, add me to your list!
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I'm still learning how port roms so that's new to me too. But as for making a rom I can help you with that so you're on the rom list sir

you can show me to how to sign a rom zip lol..

someonenewhere said:
you can show me to how to sign a rom zip lol..
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Sent you a pm
Oh and if you're reading this and you are new to xda. You don't have to want to learn the big things I listed. If you want to know something as simple as what someonenewhere asked then you can. I'm here to help you learn

I want to learn how to theme so when I get my 3d ill be at to Customize all my roms to fit me.
From my Gingerbread Hero.

Nsandhu23 said:
I want to learn how to theme so when I get my 3d ill be at to Customize all my roms to fit me.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en

I want to learn something about all of it , not to be a dev. , but to understand what they do , so I can react better to posts/etc. Thanks Kevin,.

Why don't you post in a thread(s) instead of in pm's that no one else will see? Are you just trying to limit the number of questions and comments you get back?

Nsandhu23 said:
I want to learn how to theme so when I get my 3d ill be at to Customize all my roms to fit me.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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On the list the.lessons will start tonight probably so join now preferably but if others want to learn from me later I will still teach you. And nice I have a class of ten
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maxpower47 said:
Why don't you post in a thread(s) instead of in pm's that no one else will see? Are you just trying to limit the number of questions and comments you get back?
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I'd rather teach one on one makes it easier for me to get to learn my students and how they learn and how fast , and how to go about teaching them
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I wouldn't mind learning all of it but would prefer a classroom environment but since you're the teacher I will do whatever you think is best.

I'd like to learn about all 4 it would be an honor to pick ur brain
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joed1960 said:
I wouldn't mind learning all of it but would prefer a classroom environment but since you're the teacher I will do whatever you think is best.
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One on one is best for my teaching style. I have my reasons and you'll see if you learn from me

Cai6978 said:
I'd like to learn about all 4 it would be an honor to pick ur brain
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Hehe thanks and lessons will begin soon I promise I've been busy trying to figure out the sense lockscreen for my gingersense rom and typing a explanation for all my tweaks for my v2.0 tweak.

kifno said:
One on one is best for my teaching style. I have my reasons and you'll see if you learn from me
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One on one is ok with me.

joed1960 said:
One on one is ok with me.
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Cool After I finish test v2.0 (major changes made to it from v1.5 so that its all mine and its much better that v1.5 )
edit: i didn't finish my sentence lol...but after i finish i'm going to type up the first lesson and introduction about myself and the private classes

Sabsa Prime + TrickDroid Tweaks Combo

I and as well as many are in love with Sabsa Prime and have been lead to belive that it was a full HTC Sense 4 built. However, I am hear to inform those who do not know that sabsa is not a full sense 4 but is sense 4 lite, which means that some features are not available to us unless they are successfully ported to it.
Trickdroid is one of the few roms for the HTC Inspire 4G/Desire HD that is full sense 4. I love the full customizable features of trickdroid but love the smoothness of sabsa;so i took the trickdroidtweaks.apk as well as the personalize lock screen and placed it into sabsa and it works perfectly but only features under the SystemUI.
I used netquin's rom manager to backup and restore the files because it refuses to accept them directly.
Hope this helps
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app

Try venom rom first.
Sent from my ViperDHD 1.0.0

Such threads are disrecpectful, I don't build tweaks for other ROMs so please make it in private but don't talk about it in public

torxx said:
Such threads are disrecpectful, I don't build tweaks for other ROMs so please make it in private but don't talk about it in public
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I have much respect for your work, but if you load your rom in a public site, you also have to understand that each of us is trying to improve their device, so I think your complaint is a bit exaggerated.
I'm sorry, and thank you for your excellent Rom:highfive:

Superuzzu said:
I have much respect for your work, but if you load your rom in a public site, you also have to understand that each of us is trying to improve their device, so I think your complaint is a bit exaggerated.
I'm sorry, and thank you for your excellent Rom:highfive:
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I understand that you feel this way, but be aware that it's probably in your best interest to honor the dev's request. He's not demanding that you refrain from using the combination entirely, merely that you not publicly advertise it. And as the dev, he could simply pull his tweaks, making the entire community suffer.

bananagranola said:
I understand that you feel this way, but be aware that it's probably in your best interest to honor the dev's request. He's not demanding that you refrain from using the combination entirely, merely that you not publicly advertise it. And as the dev, he could simply pull his tweaks, making the entire community suffer.
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Sorry but i think different...however I thanked him for his hard work...

Superuzzu said:
Sorry but i think different...however I thanked him for his hard work...
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I just realized that you're not the OP. My bad; I just assumed.

torxx said:
Such threads are disrecpectful, I don't build tweaks for other ROMs so please make it in private but don't talk about it in public
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I want to make it clear that I made this post in the hope of no way of disrespecting any of developers, because I understand clearly the time and effort taken in every statement in you guys code. Tested both Roms and I liked it and because I tinker with them here on my free time I decided to post it hoping that it might provide any help in any form. Sorry if I offended you,I do some programming and I am hoping to assist the community one day. As a result, I will remove this thread or request for it to be removed as soon as I reach home later tonight.
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This thread has been closed at the request of the OP.