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Call Drops

Hiya
I've been getting a lot more call drops than usual recently.
Trying to make a call, I get a long pause with nothing at all then 3 pips/beeps as it drops the call. It takes about 5-8 redials before I can get a line out.
There is no difference either if I do a soft reset Reluctant to do a hard reset but if I do I'll try and backup first.
Then there are incomming calls. It misses them, or there are times when people calling get a long tone but i see their number flash up and it just drops the call and I get a missed call alert. Calling them back gives me.... the three pips
I can't win. I've tried screaming abuse at the phone but strangely enough it has no affect
Seriously considering ringing Orange tomorrow to see if I can get a replacement... Grr.
Suggestions anyone??
Tia
Elwyn

Sounds like a network issue and is probably down to your local 3g cell (either being just too far away or having other problems). And yes you might have two bars or whatever on signal strength but 3g can be problematic like that.
Try settings, phone, band, and changing it from Auto to GSM. This will force your device to use gsm instead of 3g. If that improves things, try switching back in a day or two to see if they've fixed the cell.

I'm in the city centre almost and from my flat I can see at least 3 seperate towers. Of which i know 2 are Orange
Thank you for your suggestions, I will try that later.
This problem though doesn't just happen at home I think I'll have to dig deeper...

Loss of signal when sending SMS/MMS?

Everytime I send an sms/mms my phone signal drops completely. Sometimes the messages send, sometimes they don't. I even tested this a couple times sending myself a text....anyone else experiencing this?
And yes I have tried restarting.
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I've experienced this too, but only when I already have a pretty low signal. It never happens when I have a good signal (not based on the notification bar, actually reading the dBm).

ive had this issue with every tmobile phone i have ever owned. even my nokia n900 on tmobiles network had this issue.

lowpeezy said:
Everytime I send an sms/mms my phone signal drops completely. Sometimes the messages send, sometimes they don't. I even tested this a couple times sending myself a text....anyone else experiencing this?
And yes I have tried restarting.
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Have you tried switching to 2g?
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Whenever I'm in a car or a bus, I tend to lose signal or even the data connection. It shows the bars but no data activity, and or loses the five bars and is empty. Ill go in phone status and check the phone signals are all 0. This just started happening, I'm going to give tmobile a call.
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this may sound dumb, but could it be the way you are holding the phone? much like my nexus one, i find that when i hold the phone landscape my right hand willc over up the bottom of the phone where the antenna is and my signal drops. depending on how weak it was to start, sometimes i kill my signal. my G2 isnt as bad as my nexus was but it still happens sometimes ive noticed.

Turbo Brian said:
this may sound dumb, but could it be the way you are holding the phone? much like my nexus one, i find that when i hold the phone landscape my right hand willc over up the bottom of the phone where the antenna is and my signal drops. depending on how weak it was to start, sometimes i kill my signal. my G2 isnt as bad as my nexus was but it still happens sometimes ive noticed.
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It is not an iPhone!
No but it happens anyway I hold it. Landscape or vertical, it loses signal even when I'm at my desk in class and not moving it will drop signal and then take abour 5-10secs to get the signal again.
And also I realized that when I have 1 bar, it will lose signal and then get 5 bars. I'm thinking it doesn't do good at holding signal and transferring from tower to tower.

Lol. Its not the way I'm holding the phone. I'll have full bars, then soon as I click send, I have none....then it goes from E to H.
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Only when roaming or on EDGE
I have only had this happen while roaming or on an Edge network. We are very fortunate in Lubbock to have HSPA and GPRS, only a couple of towers are pushing edge in this area. Usually once I return to a G or H, SMS/MMS goes through with no problems... May have something to do with the Radio Issue, the alleged ota will fix...

Sudden Drop signal

In the past few days, I've noticed my phone sometimes loses signal randomly: the bars will turn dark gray (not light gray) and there would be an "x" over the bars. Def. no "3G" indicator.
And it's happening in places where I normally get signal. A reboot doesn't fix this. I just have to wait until the signal is back up. I haven't installed anything new recently, nor am I running anything out of the ordinary.
Anybody else experiencing this as well? I did a quick search and wasn't able to find much.
I'm still on 2.3.2 (haven't gotten the OTA), unrooted.

I also experience this loss of signal. Constantly. Every time during a call.

cygnum said:
I also experience this loss of signal. Constantly. Every time during a call.
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Just to clarify, this isn't happening to me during calls, or hasn't happened to me during a phone call yet. Sometimes I pick up my phone, and I see I have no signal. And of course, attempting to call out or access gmail/internet proves it so.
It's very frustrating.

2.3.3 comes with a updated radio.
You can also fastboot the updated radio but your phone isn't modded.
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onthecouchagain said:
Just to clarify, this isn't happening to me during calls, or hasn't happened to me during a phone call yet. Sometimes I pick up my phone, and I see I have no signal. And of course, attempting to call out or access gmail/internet proves it so.
It's very frustrating.
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I will need to clarify myself too, I meant I always lose the data signal every time I'm in a call. As for the phone signal (bars), I have no issues.

cygnum said:
I will need to clarify myself too, I meant I always lose the data signal every time I'm in a call. As for the phone signal (bars), I have no issues.
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Are you on EDGE (2G) or 3G or WiFi when that happens? EDGE does not support concurrent use of voice and data, but the other types of data should.

Data dissappears during phone calls? Realization time

Has it always been like this? Flashed a few roms and radios. But I think I never really thought about it or noticed it until now and it's really bugging me. I've read a few topics about 3g and 4g being "parallel" to our voice calls so we can't have both? I don't quite understand any of it.
Can someone tell me it's just my phone so I can try to solve the problem, or reassure me that we can't have both at the same time so I can sleep better tonight? lol
Thanks for any and all help!
Edit: Sorry meant to post this in the question thread.

Balut20 said:
Has it always been like this? Flashed a few roms and radios. But I think I never really thought about it or noticed it until now and it's really bugging me. I've read a few topics about 3g and 4g being "parallel" to our voice calls so we can't have both? I don't quite understand any of it.
Can someone tell me it's just my phone so I can try to solve the problem, or reassure me that we can't have both at the same time so I can sleep better tonight? lol
Thanks for any and all help!
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ALL GSM phones that are connected to HSPA or greater should be able to talk and surf at the same time. I do it frequently personally. Do you know if you drop to EDGE/GRPS when you get on a phone call?

I am also having this issue but its strange that the guy posting above me does not face this issue - may be it is a hardware issue like screen and emmc since I already tried different roms and radios?. As soon as I am in a call I am disconnected from network data. I noticed only recently when I was in a hotel room working on my laptop (tethered phone to provide internet) and just when I joined a conference call, I lost internet. It was so embarrassing I couldnt curse tmobile and htc enough. The iphone ad about talking and surfing at the same time never made sense to me before this incidence.

my phone does this too, but its on and off. Sometimes it does, others it doesnt. I really have no idea what could cause it.

Let me shed some light on this....if you are on H will less then 2 bars and theres an E with 3 bars or more and u get a call the phone will switch to E but once you hang up then its back on H. But if H has 3 bars or more when a call is received then I will stay on the H network and allow talk and data at the same time. Theres no hard ware issues trust me. Hspa is preferred but if there is a stronger signal then the phone switches. I hope that makes sense. You can not do data and talk together on E but you can on H.
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Or, to put it in other words: when the phone is in a call, it'll hop to the "best sounding" base station, and if it would happen to be the old GSM/GPRS/EDGE base station - the data will drop. The missing bit is: once it drops - it isn't re-negotiated during the call, only after it. Thus, if the phone hops to EDGE base station even for a second during the call - you won't have data from this point and till the end of the call.
Perfectly normal behavior.

PureH2O said:
Let me shed some light on this....if you are on H will less then 2 bars and theres an E with 3 bars or more and u get a call the phone will switch to E but once you hang up then its back on H. But if H has 3 bars or more when a call is received then I will stay on the H network and allow talk and data at the same time. Theres no hard ware issues trust me. Hspa is preferred but if there is a stronger signal then the phone switches. I hope that makes sense. You can not do data and talk together on E but you can on H.
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This is definitely not the case. I have tried multiple times with different signal strengths but it drops completely every time. I just did another test, I was on H at 3.47mbps with all full bars and as soon as i placed a call to my friend, the data dropped completely.

chem.manish said:
This is definitely not the case. I have tried multiple times with different signal strengths but it drops completely every time. I just did another test, I was on H at 3.47mbps with all full bars and as soon as i placed a call to my friend, the data dropped completely.
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It's not about the bars you see, but the signal strength (and not only) your phone sees - which is way more complicated than just bars. Read my post above.
And it's not an opinion either, it's a fact. This is how cellular handoff/handover works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_handover

Thanks for the replies and insight everyone. Now I know a little bit more about how that handover works heh.
In my case, most calls were made from my office building. Yesterday, when I posted, I had the newest radio and data would drop immediately as soon as the person answers my call (not a steady drop from 4g-3g-Edge, icon just disappears completely). At best, I was able to download a few apps during a call (which was downloading before the call was made) but as soon my screen locked and turned off - the data was gone on wake and wouldn't turn back on until after the call was finished.
Went through 4 different ROMS yesterday with about the same results but I have recently reflashed RoyalGinger again along with the stock radio thereafter and it seems to be holding during calls, even on my ride to work this morning. I know this is against what most people have said in this thread but maybe I just messed something up on my phone with the new radio? Guess I'll stick to this radio for now. Thanks again everybody.

Radio is the one responsible for determining the best possible connection, and flashing new radio might change things.
I'm in a good 3G/H coverage zone, with new radio, and just tested - the data remained on during the call in any conditions, screen off, screen on, wifi toggling - still worked.

Jack_R1 said:
Radio is the one responsible for determining the best possible connection, and flashing new radio might change things.
I'm in a good 3G/H coverage zone, with new radio, and just tested - the data remained on during the call in any conditions, screen off, screen on, wifi toggling - still worked.
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When I'm on 4g and turn the screen off the data turns off, normally after an extended period, which its good for battery.
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This has happened to me since I had my blackberry 9700. My experience has been that it loses all data (H/3G/E), even in good H/3G signal area and won't reconnect until I end the call. However the data loss only occurs while on a call. While not on a call, just surfing the net or using data any other way does not cause lost data connection nor a drop from H/3G to Edge. I saw somewhere on these forums that switching to H/3G only will prevent this from happening. I've tried this and it seemed to help, but I haven't been checking on every call.
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Airwave + AOSP

Does the airware work with aosp roms? ive noticed my signal gets really bad running any type of aosp at my house (always had bad reception) few months ago sprint sent us an airware, i flashed tommys sense rom and i noticed i get much better signal and the mobile broadband light is blinking on the airwave, when on aosp no blinking light and down to 1 bar sometimes no 3g

My phone connects to my Airrave fine on MIUI - that is, when the Airrave is working. It's a POS.

No rom works well with the airave. Its a piece of garbage that deserves to burn.
First, your better off WITHOUT it. It basically only makes your phone beep 3 times when starting or receiving a call, steals bandwith from your internet, and gives your phone a placibo 4-6 bar signal depending on how close you are.
OCCASIONALLY it will help your call quality. But it will screw up your texts. Be warned, when you have it on and try texting people and get a "message not sent" notify, pull the plug on your airave instantly and make it restart or keep it off or else the person your texting gets 5-40 of the exact same message. It pisses everyone off.. When the issue happens like then, restarting it sometimes fixes the issue for maybe 30mins to 5 hours?

ReapersDeath said:
No rom works well with the airave. Its a piece of garbage that deserves to burn.
First, your better off WITHOUT it. It basically only makes your phone beep 3 times when starting or receiving a call, steals bandwith from your internet, and gives your phone a placibo 4-6 bar signal depending on how close you are.
OCCASIONALLY it will help your call quality. But it will screw up your texts. Be warned, when you have it on and try texting people and get a "message not sent" notify, pull the plug on your airave instantly and make it restart or keep it off or else the person your texting gets 5-40 of the exact same message. It pisses everyone off.. When the issue happens like then, restarting it sometimes fixes the issue for maybe 30mins to 5 hours?
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+1 I thought the resending the same text over and over was fixed but its not. So when I see its sending the same text over and over, I have to put the phone in airplane mode,use Google voice to text. And the second thing that annoys me is the gps will say you are somewhere where your not. Like my airave puts me in west Chicago when I live about an hour or so away.
The only real reason I use it is so when I'm flashing a rom I get lazy and don't want to put in my WiFi password so I use the 3G haha.
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