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My display is eating my battery! Help?

Well it seems I may have a problem here as my battery is being destroyed by my display. The usage on the pic is nothing compared to some crazy results I've seen. Heck I've seen 94% of my battery being used by my display. Is there a way to fix this?
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That's actually a good thing....
If you search the threads (hint: use search), you'll see why it's a good thing.
To paraphrase and give you the TL;DR version:
Better the display taking up the battery than the 3G radio...

ShinyBuddha said:
That's actually a good thing....
If you search the threads (hint: use search), you'll see why it's a good thing.
To paraphrase and give you the TL;DR version:
Better the display taking up the battery than the 3G radio...
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I did search as a matter of fact. And in case you didn't read I'm looking for a fix. I'm not looking for why its a "good thing"
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On any phone, the display is going to be the biggest source of power drain no matter what. This is why when a new display technology emerges, the developer always talks about the power saving ability of said technology.
Also, you need to understand that it is not 62% used, it is 62% of what IS USED. So if you used 30% of battery power then .30 * .62 = 18% of overall battery life is used to power the screen. It makes sense because no matter what you do, most likely your screen is going to be on, especially if you are reading xda.

PaiPiePia said:
On any phone, the display is going to be the biggest source of power drain no matter what. This is why when a new display technology emerges, the developer always talks about the power saving ability of said technology.
Also, you need to understand that it is not 62% used, it is 62% of what IS USED. So if you used 30% of battery power then .30 * .62 = 18% of overall battery life is used to power the screen. It makes sense because no matter what you do, most likely your screen is going to be on, especially if you are reading xda.
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OK. Thanks its just freaking me out. Sometimes ill leave the screen off and ill check battery usage and its like in the 90's so I'm like wtf I haven't used my phone. And I just got on xda too see if I can get a fix for this.
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I just tried to find the thread but couldn't (thought I had it "subscribed to").
So essentially, the fact that you've got a 4" screen as the primary drain on the battery shouldn't be that surprising. It actually speaks to the efficiency of the device. In other phones, either the phone idle state or the cell standby state would be the biggest suckers of battery life, which is a bad thing as it's polling the towers too often which drains battery quicker.
There are a few tips in the forums to save battery life like auto-dim, use wifi instead of 3G (not sure if this one), use a black background, etc... But I do think that PaiPiePia did a great job at explaining it =)

As posted above it's not as bad as it looks but you can do something. Run jac's uv/oc w/color fix. It allows you to drop your brightness even lower. This works well for me as most of my use is indoors. Plus the kernel being under volted obviously helps.

Exactly if you have things that are using more power than your screen then you have problems.

as others have said, it's indeed percentage of USED battery. And display should always be using the most - unless you hardly ever use your phone.

kizer said:
Exactly if you have things that are using more power than your screen then you have problems.
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Most of the time my voice calls is the top of my list. I prob do 2-3 hours of phone calls a day. With that much time on the phone is it still bad that my voice is number one?

geocepe said:
Most of the time my voice calls is the top of my list. I prob do 2-3 hours of phone calls a day. With that much time on the phone is it still bad that my voice is number one?
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Nope, that would do it. 2-3 hours would eat up close to 50% of your battery. I make maybe 20 minutes of calls a day at most, so display takes up anywhere from 50% to 75% of total drain.

Kubernetes said:
Nope, that would do it. 2-3 hours would eat up close to 50% of your battery. I make maybe 20 minutes of calls a day at most, so display takes up anywhere from 50% to 75% of total drain.
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thanks I was getting worried for a minute. The only good news s i get a good 24hrs of use out of my phone. Coming from a G1 its great.

geocepe said:
thanks I was getting worried for a minute. The only good news s i get a good 24hrs of use out of my phone. Coming from a G1 its great.
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seriously? I leave the thing in my pocket for 8 hours and the battery's at 20%
You get 24 hours WITH 2-3 hours of calling?

geocepe said:
thanks I was getting worried for a minute. The only good news s i get a good 24hrs of use out of my phone. Coming from a G1 its great.
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Umm dude that's just not possible. Post a pic for proof or it didn't happen. G2 users get like 15 hours Max and their battery is better than ours.
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ive gotten 24 hours ... i dont know how you cant get over 15 hours on your phone ..

Alex530 said:
Umm dude that's just not possible. Post a pic for proof or it didn't happen. G2 users get like 15 hours Max and their battery is better than ours.
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It is possible to get up to 30+ hours with very light use.
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kangxi said:
It is possible to get up to 30+ hours with very light use.
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Yup, I have set the phone on my desk over the weekend (48+ hours) and the battery only drop down to 86%.
It is possible, just don't use a bunch of widgets/auto sync options and make sure its in a good reception area and it will last for a while.

kangxi said:
It is possible to get up to 30+ hours with very light use.
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It's possible to get a lot more than that with very light usage.
Note: This is with No 3G as we don't have it in my country.
Bionix ftw!

PaiPiePia said:
Yup, I have set the phone on my desk over the weekend (48+ hours) and the battery only drop down to 86%.
It is possible, just don't use a bunch of widgets/auto sync options and make sure its in a good reception area and it will last for a while.
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do you have any mods or is this stock?

kuhan said:
do you have any mods or is this stock?
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oops, I just saw this today. It was stock using JI5 from Kies at that time.

104 hours of battery life!

ROM: Sky Raider 3.5
Kernel: 2.6.32.27.incredikernel-plus25
Battery: 2150mAh OEM Extended (smexy with case)
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- No setCPU, but kernel has one built in.
- No bump charging.
- Light use, I purposely tried to not use it too much just because I was curious how long it could make it (like if I were ever stuck somewhere without a charger, knowing how long my phone could last if I did not constantly stay on it).
~ 1.5 hours of 3G pandora
~45 mins of texting
~30 mins phone calls
~20 minutes of 'My Tracks' app
~15 mins GPS navigation
~10 mins angry birds (tehehe, couldn't resist)
3G, GPS and location were ON entire time.
Thought I'd share

since skyraider is a sense rom you can use that kernel?
i thought incredikernal was AOSP?
edit:
i'm retarded.
was thinking of the new incredikernal. fail on my part!

invisiblek is AOSP, incredikernel is Sense
(actually chad aka incredikernel is starting to develop some new GingerBread AOSP kernels)

Wanted to subscribe, forgot to!

To what do you attribute the most battery life to?
o 2150 mah battery?
o Kernel?
o Skyraider?
Scott

spatton said:
To what do you attribute the most battery life to?
o 2150 mah battery?
o Kernel?
o Skyraider?
Scott
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2150mAh definitely, Kernel next and Skyraider after that. I saw noticeable improvements when I used Sky Raider over stock, and used chad's incredikenel over stock so I feel they have significant improvements on battery life for sure.
With screen off I'll get about 1.5 hours per %, with screen on and doing things it's completely different.
Much of this test was to see how long it would last with screen off and with those services (like 3G) running.

Very impressive. Don't think I can go over 24 hours with stock battery, CM7 and incredikernel.

I think I can get 24 hours, with reasonable use. I use juice defender which REALLY helps a lot - at least in my life.
Scott

the 2150 makes the phone so ugly and disfigured I couldnt use it. I am running SR3.5 but I get great batt life with Lou #8 kernel and the 1800mah Inc/Evo batt.
Unfortunately battery problems will be around for a while, did you hear the rumors about the T-bolt batt? LOL, 3 totals hours on a full charge! These "phones" or whatever you want to call them are so powerful and do so many different things its hard to design a strong battery at that size. Phone management is crucial.

thats impressive, im still using my stock battery and I'm tired of worrying about it dying and bump charging
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I too got some crazy long battery life on Skyraider 3.5. Only reason I left was because ihtfp is no longer supporting them. When I tried MIUI for the 3rd time I really got into it (using LP) but I haven't been able to reproduce that awesome battery life I had on SR... Yet, at least.
I also dearly miss the Awake Time stat. All aosp roms should have that.
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Div033 said:
I too got some crazy long battery life on Skyraider 3.5. Only reason I left was because ihtfp is no longer supporting them. When I tried MIUI for the 3rd time I really got into it (using LP) but I haven't been able to reproduce that awesome battery life I had on SR... Yet, at least.
I also dearly miss the Awake Time stat. All aosp roms should have that.
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ihftp69 has stated he will be releasing one more update... SkyRaider4.0... can't wait

ACD168 said:
ihftp69 has stated he will be releasing one more update... SkyRaider4.0... can't wait
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Wow... I had thought he was done completely. This is pretty exciting news for me. Thanks for the tip, now I have something to look forward to!
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wow. Thats impressive.
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TokedUp said:
the 2150 makes the phone so ugly and disfigured I couldnt use it. I am running SR3.5 but I get great batt life with Lou #8 kernel and the 1800mah Inc/Evo batt.
Unfortunately battery problems will be around for a while, did you hear the rumors about the T-bolt batt? LOL, 3 totals hours on a full charge! These "phones" or whatever you want to call them are so powerful and do so many different things its hard to design a strong battery at that size. Phone management is crucial.
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With a case on it, it's really not bad looking at all. Looks pretty sweet, and have gotten a couple of compliments on it
I got my case from here:
http://htcpedia.com/news/case-cover-htc-droid-incredible-extended-batteryc.html
Without the case I'll admit it looks a bit weird though not that bad.
And about the thunderbolt only lasting 3 hours?
lul cakes, I read this:
http://androidcommunity.com/htc-thu...ored-to-be-due-to-poor-battery-life-20110228/
I thought HTC would have learned from the incredible that they seriously need to upgrade the battery. I hope they do a full redesign where they stick just a long battery down the entire back of the phone so people don't have to get extended batteries that bulge out.

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TokedUp said:
the 2150 makes the phone so ugly and disfigured I couldnt use it. I am running SR3.5 but I get great batt life with Lou #8 kernel and the 1800mah Inc/Evo batt.
Unfortunately battery problems will be around for a while, did you hear the rumors about the T-bolt batt? LOL, 3 totals hours on a full charge! These "phones" or whatever you want to call them are so powerful and do so many different things its hard to design a strong battery at that size. Phone management is crucial.
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Thats a rumor about the TB, supposedly it has a more energy efficient processor compared to our inc so it will last longer with the smaller battery. Maybe on 4g it lasts on 3 hours but no way with normal use
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Battery Jumping Issue on Gingerbread

This is a serious problem for me, and ive seen many others report it
it started with the HK 2.3.4, and i thought the ATandT build would fix it but it hasnt
The battery readings all over the place, it will say 40% left, but if i restart it itll go back to 59% and etc..
I have done a battery callibration, wiped battery stats, all that good stuff, it has not helped.
I flashed 1.8.3 SBF and then went to the ATandT gingerbread (gingerblur), so everying was wiped, but i still have this problem
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre

Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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lesonal said:
Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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LOL did u really have the screen on for 5 hrs +

Yup watched a movie on Netflix and everything
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SS2006 said:
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre
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Considering these builds are likely not at all final, it's probably something they either have fixed on another build, are working on fixing before the beta, or will fix during the beta.
Basically, I think we'll have to wait for the official release unless Kenn can patch a fix into his own rom.

this seems to be a problem after installing the 1% mod. every time i install it it happens no matter how many times i wipe... once i reflahed with beta 4.5 everything works perfect

I had the 1% mod , wish i never did
but flashed 1.8.3 and flashed to beta gingerblur again, i don thave the mod right now
but still seeing this

lesonal said:
Check out my battery life ...nice huh?
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How is this possible??

I am having the same issue but it doesn't seem to be a big deal as it shows quick drain when it jumps up or drains slow when it jumps down.
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Krshaw18 said:
How is this possible??
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Hows what possible? He has the 1% battery mod which makes his battery reading way off. I can be 60% battery , reboot and it will say I'm at 90%.

SS2006 said:
This is a serious problem for me, and ive seen many others report it
it started with the HK 2.3.4,
Does anyone know how i can communicate this issue to that motorola forum guy Matt,
its very annoying and is making our batteries look very mediocre
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Motorola isn't going to give 2 hoots about your problems since you flashed a leaked firmware, which wasn't for your specific model anyway!

ahjdmarchi said:
this seems to be a problem after installing the 1% mod. every time i install it it happens no matter how many times i wipe... once i reflahed with beta 4.5 everything works perfect
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I had a widget that displayed 1% increment battery levels and that showed the same deal as before. It's not a problem with the mod. All they do is read the system files reporting battery level anyway.
And really Caelan...can't you just ignore the topic if you're just going to post spam?

CaelanT said:
Motorola isn't going to give 2 hoots about your problems since you flashed a leaked firmware, which wasn't for your specific model anyway!
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If you read more carefully, you'll notice it actually is for our specific model
Gingerblur is based on the ATandT 4.5.91

to clear ur confusion, i did have hk and 1% mod in the past. But i then flashed 1.8.3 SBF (which is for at and t atrix)
So right there, all the past is history, im stock.
THEN went to 4.5.91, and still have problems, as do others

It's got to be a bug in the Moto ROM. I'm sure it will be fixed either by our devs or their's

My front facing camera will not work

Sorry to the OP if this is off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread.
Issue is, battery drains faster than it is getting charged while in use. playing game on it while charging and still sucks battery dry. any constructive thoughts is welcome

lesonal said:
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Damn how did you get such high display time and still have 46% battery left? Any secrets?

Aos y u no

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Because your battery life is fine. That's why. Stop whining.

seshmaru said:
Because your battery life is fine. That's why. Stop whining.
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How can his battery be fine? He lost 69% due to a bug and he's supposed to get excited?
Let me guess: this means his device is entering DEEP SLEEP, right?
...I begun suspecting that Samsung infiltrated XDA with undercover agents...those who post Aos and wake up lag is normal....
Samsung, Y U NO WORK @ YOUR ISSUES INSTEAD OF SPENDING TIME HERE?

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How can his battery be fine? He lost 69% due to a bug and he's supposed to get excited?
Let me guess: this means his device is entering DEEP SLEEP, right?
...I begun suspecting that Samsung infiltrated XDA with undercover agents...those who post Aos and wake up lag is normal....
Samsung, Y U NO WORK @ YOUR ISSUES INSTEAD OF SPENDING TIME HERE?
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He lost it over 15 hours.... That's over a day of use

15 hrs of doing nothing that could beat AOS, right?
...so...no matter what I do, I should be happy if battery lasts over 15 hrs....hmmmm

htc9420 said:
15 hrs of doing nothing that could beat AOS, right?
...so...no matter what I do, I should be happy if battery lasts over 15 hrs....hmmmm
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Sell your SGSII and get the sensation. no more complaints.

akusokuzan said:
Sell your SGSII and get the sensation. no more complaints.
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You could try to help him out instead of taking a dump on him because of an issue he's having instead of basically telling him to eff off.
Community, anyone?

garekinokami said:
You could try to help him out instead of taking a dump on him because of an issue he's having instead of basically telling him to eff off.
Community, anyone?
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This user said it best:
nobnut said:
100% is the maximum
therefore if we assume a basic scenario with three things using this 100%, lets say:
Android OS - 50%
Display - 30%
Something else - 20%
Total = 100%
Now, if we do not turn on the device's screen, the next result will be something like:
Android OS - 75%
Something else - 25%
Total = 100%
Does this mean that Android OS is now using more power? NO!
What this means is that Android OS has used a larger percentage of the power used BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER PROCESSES GOING ON!!
In the above example, the total amount of power used has actually fallen.
But the genius folk who complain about Android OS (AKA idiots) all of a sudden believe that Android OS is now using more power and start moaning like a bunch of little girls. As you can see from some elementary mathematics... this is a load of b*ll*cks.
Do you understand now?
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The battery is fine. Everyone's just getting worked up over the percentages that are reported.

L o L, whats going on here

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You should RTFM before saying stuff like this.
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Oh oh, effin' manual right?
so tell me, wise guy, have you heard of DVM ( sorry, aka Dalvik Virtual Machine) and native/core libraries?
I bet you already know everything that is to know about them an you're ok that those, along the kernel drivers< let me enumerate for you, so you don't have to wake your brain from deep sleep and wait for the 1 sec lag: display, camera, wifi, keypad/keyboard(if present),audio, flash mem, BinderIPC DRIVERS and power management> are grinding so much battery that it depletes in , let's say, 20 hrs.
Well, my hat's off to you, sir. You hold the power and the knowledge to be perfectly satisfied with what others don't understand.
As for the one that suggested to buy the Sensation and quotes the display off analogy, what could I say more? He explained how battery works so I'll buy the Sensation or whatever he wants after he explains how magnets work.

Sorry, my mistake. You were perfectly right
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I agree.
Everyone's just getting worked up over the percentages that are reported
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Couldn't agree more. Because, either the percentages are not accurately reported or something is draining power when it shouldn't.
My mistake.

How long is the display up and running?
Heres an attached screenshot of my usage for the past few days.

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Heres an attached screenshot of my usage for the past few days.
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Like a boss. I'm speechless.

EarlZ said:
How long is the display up and running?
Heres an attached screenshot of my usage for the past few days.
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You have no apps installed.

I have, only 96 apps though. We all have different usages.

Alright, if the percentage doesn't say anything, why don't they use another measures? Like mAh or other units.
Also these 15 hours WiFi was turned on most of the time. I used to turn the screen on and check Facebook/Google+/browse for 2-5 minutes, every 30-60 minutes. So let's just say the display was on for about two til three hours over this 15 hour period. Compared to 19% for the display I would say 50% is A LOT for AOS/CPU usage.

On a 2-3hr usage, at the AOS is THAT high its pretty much a LOT! Look at how low my AOS is compared to Andriod system, heck even cellstandby is taking up more power.

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On a 2-3hr usage, at the AOS is THAT high its pretty much a LOT! Look at how low my AOS is compared to Andriod system, heck even cellstandby is taking up more power.
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Yep that is awesome!
What are you running? Kernel, ROM?

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How long is the display up and running?
Heres an attached screenshot of my usage for the past few days.
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Nice uptime, but I guess you don't use packet data OR talk to friends/ppl because after all it is a PHONE you have at your possession.
So it seems imo that you AREN'T a normal user like the most of us, making phone calls and receiving them in avg per day, which is about 1 hour (call and receive) and letting packed data being online.
Correct me if I am wrong about this analysis.

Without seeing your wake bar and wakelock stats its hard to have any idea what your phone is doing.
Try using better battery stats(link in my sig) to see if you have any out of place wakelocks.
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Post your battery life results!!!

I've made a thread like this in the Sensation forums and it was quite popular so I thought I'd make one here as well, as I'm really curious how far can the Xoom really go in terms of battery life !
So the general format of how the posts should look like should be this:
Running (stock/stock+rooted/custom(name) rom) on my (model).
Here is a picture (insert battery life screen shot).
I'm (undervolting or no undervolting)
PS: Make sure you don't charge your xoom as it makes the results invalid and useless!
OK! My turn:
I'm running Stable EOS 3 custom rom on my MZ604 WiFi only Xoom.
Here is a picture of my battery results:
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And this one:
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No undervolting was done.
The only question left is, can you beat me?!

I usually don't take pictures of stuff like this, so next time when I get over a week of usage on my XOOM I will post it here. I should note I put it in airplane mode and have the WiFi and bluetooth on all the time, though I believe the WiFi does turn off after the device goes into sleep. It's a MZ601, uses Team EOS nightly builds always on the latest. Stock speeds and yeah.

Chaosgod27 said:
I usually don't take pictures of stuff like this, so next time when I get over a week of usage on my XOOM I will post it here. I should note I put it in airplane mode and have the WiFi and bluetooth on all the time, though I believe the WiFi does turn off after the device goes into sleep. It's a MZ601, uses Team EOS nightly builds always on the latest. Stock speeds and yeah.
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A whole week? Isn't that a bit exaggerated? Mind you, I just got the xoom so I can't talk, but a week? That's a nice result.
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beston94 said:
A whole week? Isn't that a bit exaggerated? Mind you, I just got the xoom so I can't talk, but a week? That's a nice result.
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not at all. i'm at 79% after 1 day and 9 hours. eos3 stable, stock kernel, not overclocked, MZ604
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not at all. i'm at 79% after 1 day and 9 hours. eos3 stable, stock kernel, not overclocked, MZ604
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I guess it goes to show how little I actually know about this tablet That is just simply amazing
With regards,
Beston94

Pretty much, I don't use it much, maybe one or two hours most each day.

Mine is a bit bias as I'm forever flashing and trying to edit/theme and therefore loads of time is spent in recovery/rebooting/'android upgrading'
but anyway, here it is:
CM10 Nightlies

matt4321 said:
Mine is a bit bias as I'm forever flashing and trying to edit/theme and therefore loads of time is spent in recovery/rebooting/'android upgrading'
but anyway, here it is:
CM10 Nightlies
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Seems great. However, could you maybe tell us or show us the screen time as well?
With regards,
Beston94

beston94 said:
Seems great. However, could you maybe tell us or show us the screen time as well?
With regards,
Beston94
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Sure mate, just under 3 hours, 2hr 55mins to be precise.
I generally think I get pretty decent battery life out of my xoom
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Some more results:
CM10, MZ604

The only part really worth posting is the screen on time.
This damn thing can literally go weeks technically "on" because there is practically no battery drain when its "asleep."

Cubanluke88 said:
The only part really worth posting is the screen on time.
This damn thing can literally go weeks technically "on" because there is practically no battery drain when its "asleep."
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In some ways that is true. However, what if somebody just charged it to 100% and played with it non-stop, so that the screen on time went to 12 hours. You say,"That's amazing". But some people don't have the time to play with them for 12 hours straight So the overall time adds towards the actual battery life, since it still loses some battery life during the sleep or the night. Take me for example, I play with it 3 hours a day and can go for as long as 2 days before charging it again.
I've said this before, but I'll say it again. This tablet is amazing !
With regards,
Beston94

Here are some pictures:
As I stated before I don't use my XOOM much, but I did use it a lot for music streaming to my bluetooth headphones and also watched a movie on it. Lol
And oh I had about ~35% left

EOS 3 Stable. No performance mods. Usually see a week at least between charges.
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