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Can you wifi tether this and just use my home network? If do i have to get the data plan
I've looked and asked around but I'm getting mixed information
ive read it has wifi, can connect to home network
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ive read it has wifi, can connect to home network
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yea i seen and read that too but was told io had to get the data plan to connect /boggle i want one but the data plans are crazy .. when i could tether it to my phone and use my wifi network at home
CheesyNutz said:
yea i seen and read that too but was told io had to get the data plan to connect /boggle i want one but the data plans are crazy .. when i could tether it to my phone and use my wifi network at home
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you can use you home network withour a data plan it works just fine, i tether from my Evo to my tab all the time and find it cheaer and more convient
Yes u can but if u buy one from the provider u gotta get a plan. Later a wifi only version will be released
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tmotech88 said:
you can use you home network withour a data plan it works just fine, i tether from my Evo to my tab all the time and find it cheaer and more convient
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cool i thought you could but wanted to make sure
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Yes u can but if u buy one from the provider u gotta get a plan. Later a wifi only version will be released
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well bestbuy told me i did not have to get a plan and its working just fine from my home network just picked it up and i did not get a data plan /shrug
yeah you dont have to get a data plan. that would be crazy. in a nutshell and please excuse the comparison but essentially it is like having a big ipod touch. you dont have to buy the data plan and dont let anyone tell you that you do.
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well bestbuy told me i did not have to get a plan and its working just fine from my home network just picked it up and i did not get a data plan /shrug
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little off topic here, but if you're bored, i wouldn't mind a review of the tab. i've seen it from the tech blogs standpoint, but i'd like to see an actual user review it.
just a thought.
It depends on the version you get whether you need to buy with a plan or not. Sprint, for example, does not offer the tab without a plan, but Verizon does.
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It depends on the version you get whether you need to buy with a plan or not. Sprint, for example, does not offer the tab without a plan, but Verizon does.
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funny best buys selling them for 599 i just bought one and im using it hell my wifes on it now and wont give it up
http://www.gsmarena.com/big_us_carriers_are_blocking_android_tethering_apps-news-2600.php
Android owners in the US won’t be happy about this – carriers have started blocking the apps that enable tethering on their phones. It’s a service they charge $15-$20 a month after all, you can’t expect them to let you have it for free.
Reports from all over the Internet are coming in saying that AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon are all blocking the tethering apps from the Market (both free and paid ones). Sprint seems to be the one operator that hasn’t blocked the tethering apps.
People who live outside the US might be scratching their heads wondering why you’d need an app to do what the OS can do on its own – well, US carriers usually disable that functionality, until you pay of course. AT&T goes as far as locking out the option to install third-party apps from sources other than the Market.
Finding the apps from other sources is much harder that way. And even if you manage to install those, you might get an email from the carrier – AT&T for one, has been sending out messages to those who use tethering without paying for it first.
It's the very reason why the latest 3.0 version of the popular tethering application PDA Net now features cloaking to mask the tethering activity from your carrier.
If you’re in the US, drop us a comment to say if tethering apps have been blocked for you.
All the more reason the enter the tethering info. / mobile hotspot info. manually and don't use an app at all.
Well they can't stop me from sideloading!!!!
Yup, I use the manual tethering!
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Manual...
s'plain that, please.
They can see that you are doing that manually through custom APN anyway. Safer to use Barnacle, WiFi Tether, etc.
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apn
I have been tethering thanks to my modified apn. Thus far no issues from Att. I check my plan weekly; Still locked into smartphone unlimited. Just wait until we get hulu (officially) then Netflix. I will use an extra 5 gb a month.
There's an easy way to get around this.
Just take your SIM out, turn on, use wifi and go to market. ALL THE APPS are there now!
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Just get the plan...you wont be happy when it automatically gets added to your att account bc you did it manually
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roharia said:
Just get the plan...you wont be happy when it automatically gets added to your att account bc you did it manually
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What plan? AT&T doesn't have an unlimited tethering plan do they? Plus I should be able to use my data how I want being that I am paying for it.
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I should be able to use my data how I want being that I am paying for it.
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What you should be able to do and what your service agreement says you can do are two different things.
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What you should be able to do and what your service agreement says you can do are two different things.
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True, and that is so wrong in itself, that the service providers would force us to pay for something that was already being done, with minimal if any impact to their network. greed. Sad thing is there is virtually nothing that the consumer can do to stop them.
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CaelanT said:
They can see that you are doing that manually through custom APN anyway. Safer to use Barnacle, WiFi Tether, etc.
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At&t Cannot see that you manually added a custom APN, however what they can do is see that someone has used 6gb on the WAP.CINGULAR APN in a 2 day session. Were they are using the "scare tactic" is when the billing system knows you have a smartphone and used 12gb in 1 billing cycle is when you get the threat letter, other than that all the APN does is allow you to connect to whatever server your are trying to connect to from the respective APN you set. They CANNOT see the actual type of traffic you are viewing or how you are using that.
I'm sure most will say "how do you know" or bash me for this statement. But when it comes to At&t, the At&t network in general from a technical standpoint, i can answer these questions with 100% certainty, just ask some of your more "veteran" XDA Forum Moderators.
ekerbuddyeker said:
There's an easy way to get around this.
Just take your SIM out, turn on, use wifi and go to market. ALL THE APPS are there now!
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Even easier way, turn on airplane mode then turn wifi back on.
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True, and that is so wrong in itself, that the service providers would force us to pay for something that was already being done, with minimal if any impact to their network. greed.
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They are not forcing you to do anything.
They offer a service that has conditions for use.
I personally don't like their terms and conditions, but I don't like Sprint even more, so I pick the lesser of the two evils.
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Sad thing is there is virtually nothing that the consumer can do to stop them.
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Sure you can... go to a provider that doesn't have the restrictions.
rjohnstone said:
They are not forcing you to do anything.
They offer a service that has conditions for use.
I personally don't like their terms and conditions, but I don't like Sprint even more, so I pick the lesser of the two evils.
Sure you can... go to a provider that doesn't have the restrictions.
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Sorry to go offtopic but quick q, why do u think att is the lesser of the two evils? I almost switched for the evo 4g when it came out.
rjohnstone said:
They are not forcing you to do anything.
They offer a service that has conditions for use.
I personally don't like their terms and conditions, but I don't like Sprint even more, so I pick the lesser of the two evils.
Sure you can... go to a provider that doesn't have the restrictions.
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Sure I can, but that still doesn't stop them. I didn't write it in the singular, I said WE, as consumers can do nothing to stop them. That went out the window when congress said we can only fix our disputes via arbritration. We don't have leverage, so you will probably see this no tethering without paying crap become standard for all the providers. They are apparently already blocking the apps on the market, right?
Hey guys, I was searching the interwebs for some general unlocking info and I found this from a couple years ago. Pretty interesting I think, what happened to this? Are they actually reflashing phones in-store? As far as the "gradual opening of the US wireless market"...it's gradual indeed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2541615...ss/t/metropcs-customers-bring-your-own-phone/
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MetroPCS will allow you to use some CDMA handsets from other providers, yes. But you don't get data; you'll have to figure out how to do that yourself. I know plenty of folks who put OG Droids and EVOs on Ghettro, though I don't know why... 1xRTT is pretty miserable, way too slow for a real smartphone... and their LTE isn't compatible with Verizon LTE handsets afaik.
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Interesting. So are GSM data standards are more inter-compatible between carriers than with CDMA? (I had to look up what 1xRTT is =) )
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Interesting. So are GSM data standards are more inter-compatible between carriers than with CDMA? (I had to look up what 1xRTT is =) )
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It's the same principle, each carrier runs their network on different frequencies, except most who use the same technology also use the same texting/phone frequencies.
If Metro had the same 3G bands as Verizon, a Verizon phone would work fine.
MetroPCS doesn't have EV-DO at all.
Yes they do. if you are using their latest .prl (3025) and your phone is 3G capable, you will get 3G in the rare places where it is available. i live in nyc and did not get 3g on metro unless i went to Brooklyn . i used the speedtest app and it got 300ish kbps on an evdo network. not bad speed for metropcs, but very slow compared to what im using now.
Check here if you don't believe me:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-admire/413237-3g-samsung-admire-here-3022-prl.html
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Hey guys, I was searching the interwebs for some general unlocking info and I found this from a couple years ago. Pretty interesting I think, what happened to this? Are they actually reflashing phones in-store? As far as the "gradual opening of the US wireless market"...it's gradual indeed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2541615...ss/t/metropcs-customers-bring-your-own-phone/
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There are two stores around me that do it. $50 to get your phone on there network. Only one of them does the data. Not sure how much they charge. But it's not officially done by metro. It's individuals who work in the store and the money goes to them.
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Speaking of bringing your own phone....anybody know anything about simplesim. I've thought about going to them from att.
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simplesim? Do you mean Simple Mobile?
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simplesim? Do you mean Simple Mobile?
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Yeah that's it. Know anything about em
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boborone said:
Yeah that's it. Know anything about em
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They are an MVNO of T-Mobile. To be honest, I would just go with T-Mobile's monthly 4G plans instead of Simple but to each his own. Some people swear by them.
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They are an MVNO of T-Mobile. To be honest, I would just go with T-Mobile's monthly 4G plans instead of Simple but to each his own. Some people swear by them.
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I'm about to go to sprint for the unlimited data. Att is going to start throttling me on mine. I've just all these GSM phones laying around and would like to use them.
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boborone said:
I'm about to go to sprint for the unlimited data. Att is going to start throttling me on mine. I've just all these GSM phones laying around and would like to use them.
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It won't be unlimited for long...WImax sucks too....but whatever makes you happy.
I'd say take Verizon up on their double data promo if your going CDMA
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Babydoll25 said:
It won't be unlimited for long...WImax sucks too....but whatever makes you happy.
I'd say take Verizon up on their double data promo if your going CDMA
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What's double data. I typically use around 150 gb a month. That's why I like unlimited.
I met a guy recently on Simple Mobile and he seemed happy, I'm thinking of switching soon. I mean, unlimited 3G data, text and talk for $40 a month including international texting? Considering my phone only does 3G (Vibrant) anyways...
But, I also don't use that much data.
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What's double data. I typically use around 150 gb a month. That's why I like unlimited.
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They have a promo where if you order 2GB for 30$ you automatically get 4GB and, pay for 5GB ($50) get 10GB, and so on....
ALSO: To anyone thinking of Simple mobile go with the higher priced option. The 40$ dollar option doesn't give you access to 4G speeds (T-Mobile's HSPA+ in this case) even if your phone is only 3G capable you will see a speed boost.
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They have a promo where if you order 2GB for 30$ you automatically get 4GB and, pay for 5GB ($50) get 10GB, and so on....
ALSO: To anyone thinking of Simple mobile go with the higher priced option. The 40$ dollar option doesn't give you access to 4G speeds (T-Mobile's HSPA+ in this case) even if your phone is only 3G capable you will see a speed boost.
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Ahhh I see. Still too little for me. I hook my phone to my tv and watch Netflix, the news. Play games and such. I'm a data hog I know.
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I have GNote and have using Straight Talk with not many problems.
but lately, the data connection seems to be much less stable than before.
It shows the data is connected but it doens't seem to be working. so I have to turn the date off and back on then it works.
So, I'm wonder if any other people having the same problem with ST?
Which carrier do you think that is the fastest and the most stable?
Straight Talk? Simple Mobile? Net10?
(Oh, and I've seen that Simple Mobile now provides $50 unlimited talk, text, & 3G/4G Data. Has anyone tried this one? How's it?)
With simple mobile u cant get 3g or 4g coverage on noye
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I was having the same issue with ST and most times it was so bad I couldn't load up fb or even connect to Google services.
Luckily my mom has a plan on at&t so I was able to add myself to that with no contract for almost the same price..
Data works fine now and I was on at&t network when I was with ST.
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I was having the same issue with ST and most times it was so bad I couldn't load up fb or even connect to Google services.
Luckily my mom has a plan on at&t so I was able to add myself to that with no contract for almost the same price..
Data works fine now and I was on at&t network when I was with ST.
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Lucky u! =]
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With simple mobile u cant get 3g or 4g coverage on noye
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oh really? although they say they provide 3g or 4g?
Thanks for the info. I almost bought the simple mobile simcard.
Right now I have no problem tethering off my Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile with an unlimited plan, whether on my tablet, laptop, or desktop. The Nexus 4 looks pretty nice, but my concern - since T-Mobile is also carrying it, does that mean it'll have the capability to block tethering without the proper plan, even using the Play unlocked version? Does the T-Mobile one even have anything confirmed other than a higher price? Apparently 42Mbps speeds are confirmed on the Play version through the Google press release and the Play Store specs are wrong.
I know its all speculation at this point since nobody has the phone, but that'd be a huge factor as to whether I sell my Galaxy Nexus now and go back to my HTC G2 until I get the Nexus 4 (while I can still get a decent amount for it), or just get my high-performance fix with the Nexus 10 (which I'd be planning to get regardless after selling my Toshiba Thrive).
If you can root it, you can tether w/o being charged a fee. True story.
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If you can root it, you can tether w/o being charged a fee. True story.
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If you buy it from T-Mobile, they will have the IMEI and can track it. Better get it from the PlayStore.
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If you can root it, you can tether w/o being charged a fee. True story.
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Except I've had issues tethering with a rooted/ROM'd G2 occasionally, and have had friends having issues with tethering on rooted devices, so I can't say that's entirely true.
eksasol said:
If you buy it from T-Mobile, they will have the IMEI and can track it. Better get it from the PlayStore.
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But if T-Mobile ends up carrying the same unlocked version (just upcharging for whatever reason), then wouldn't they be able to track the IMEI or whatever of the unlocked version too?
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Except I've had issues tethering with a rooted/ROM'd G2 occasionally, and have had friends having issues with tethering on rooted devices, so I can't say that's entirely true.
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I can say it's entirely true. No problems tethering with root on ATT or VZW with my Captivate, Atrix or Gnex using either WiFi Tether free app or built in AP via AOKP or CM for 3+ years in at least 2 states. So if you are having problems, you are doing it wrong.
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But if T-Mobile ends up carrying the same unlocked version (just upcharging for whatever reason), then wouldn't they be able to track the IMEI or whatever of the unlocked version too?
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T-Mobile only knows the imei of the phones they sell. They can't and don't have access (unless it's currently connected to their network) of any other imei.
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I can say it's entirely true. No problems tethering with root on ATT or VZW with my Captivate, Atrix or Gnex using either WiFi Tether free app or built in AP via AOKP or CM for 3+ years in at least 2 states. So if you are having problems, you are doing it wrong.
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How exactly can you root "wrong" like you're saying? Fact is, I've gotten the "get a hotspot plan" pages when tethering to my laptop/desktop numerous times while I had my G2, running both CM7 and CM9. Maybe T-Mobile is just more stringent about sniffing out tethering?
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How exactly can you root "wrong" like you're saying? Fact is, I've gotten the "get a hotspot plan" pages when tethering to my laptop/desktop numerous times while I had my G2, running both CM7 and CM9. Maybe T-Mobile is just more stringent about sniffing out tethering?
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No one said you were rooting wrong, they said if you're having tethering issues then you're tethering wrong. But it just depends on the current tower you're on as well as traffic at the time, as well as luck.
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No one said you were rooting wrong, they said if you're having tethering issues then you're tethering wrong. But it just depends on the current tower you're on as well as traffic at the time, as well as luck.
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Exactly. So while tethering is possible on rooted devices, its not guaranteed to work 100% of the time, which is what I'm trying to get at.
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Exactly. So while tethering is possible on rooted devices, its not guaranteed to work 100% of the time, which is what I'm trying to get at.
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No, no. My VZW LTE tethered from my Gnex is more reliable than my Charter cable internet, in fact I use it as a backup when Charter goes out. (which is a few time a month.) If you don't have data it is because of your carrier. And when I said doing it wrong I meant tethering not rooting. There are many many threads on how to properly tether. When done properly tethering works 100% of the time, not having data to tether is a different issue altogether.
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No, no. My VZW LTE tethered from my Gnex is more reliable than my Charter cable internet, in fact I use it as a backup when Charter goes out. (which is a few time a month.) If you don't have data it is because of your carrier. And when I said doing it wrong I meant tethering not rooting. There are many many threads on how to properly tether. When done properly tethering works 100% of the time, not having data to tether is a different issue altogether.
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Ah, I'll have to look into it then, thanks.
If you have any specific questions or errors tell me. I'm not sure why you've had a less than stable experience with tethering, but if you can note specific issues we can try and help you troubleshoot to get it working properly.:good:
I wonder how much they will sell it at a T-Mobile store off contract 350$ I hope
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Jasonhunterx said:
I wonder how much they will sell it at a T-Mobile store off contract 350$ I hope
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Way more than what Google selling it for
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Way more than what Google selling it for
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That's what I'm thinking just don't like using me credit card and shipping charges
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It seems to be pretty well established that T-Mobile is packet-sniffing to detect unauthorized tethering. It appears that they detect the User Agent string if you are using Internet Explorer or Chrome (but apparently not Firefox, I imagine because Android Firefox is able to pretend to be the desktop version with one tap). Changing the User Agent string for your browser or using a VPN tunnel circumvents the detection, and non-browser access (SSH, SMTP, etc.) is not checked, either. All that's independent of whether you are rooted or not.
just install a user agent add on or extention on your laptop. Firefox and chrome both have them, i set mine to nexus 7 user agent and the tether blocking pages go away for good.
FREEE
basementalism said:
just install a user agent add on or extention on your laptop. Firefox and chrome both have them, i set mine to nexus 7 user agent and the tether blocking pages go away for good.
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it works with out root or any app im using it right now on my comp with my nexus 4 free i have tmobile truly unlimited plan
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it works with out root or any app im using it right now on my comp with my nexus 4 free i have tmobile truly unlimited plan
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Very good to know. Thanks
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T-Mobile only knows the imei of the phones they sell. They can't and don't have access (unless it's currently connected to their network) of any other imei.
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IMEIs are assigned in blocks. Even if they don't have access to the info from the manufacturer, (they almost certainly do), they can still figure it out. If, for example, they've sold Nexus 4s with IMEIs 1001 and 1003, and you log onto their network with 1002, they can draw a pretty solid conclusion.
The hard part is figuring out if you're tethering or not, which requires invasive packet sniffing if the phone itself doesn't report tethering (that's how they track tethering with branded devices). I don't believe, based on my quick research, that T-Mo is sniffing everyone's packets. Which means they probably aren't watching you unless you are streaming 20GB a month. They are tracking user agents on branded phones, it seems.