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Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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rosedale19 said:
Coming from the cliq rooted with a 2.1 rom, atk was a necessity IMO.But ive hard that task killers are not needed with froyo and that it hurts more than it helps. But ive noticed that even with atk on froyo, apps aren't being killed unless I go to settings/applications/manage apps to force close myself. Ive tried just not force closing or killing apps and ive noticed it being a memory hog and decrease in performance and battery, but thats just my own personal testing.
What's your opinion on task killers and such? do I need it or am I better of without one?
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I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
gaww said:
I am using "advanced app killer'. A number of stock apps will restart right after, but most others will not.
I use it right after starting up, and after closing some apps (they often keep running in background). I think this is helping materially with my battery life - which is fairly good.
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Thanks I will try that out. But yeah my battery life if pretty good when I really try haha. But yeah I've noticed apps just reopen, I guys I have to just get used to the froyo ways
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I couldnt find "advanced app killer" in the market. Is it elsewhere?
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not needed, just like gaww stated
A number of stock apps will restart right after
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is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
Haven't seen the need for a task killer. I run System Panel app and what I'm seeing is the majority of the apps listed are on background and not taking up CPU power at all.
If anything, once I root, I'll probably use Autostarts just to minimize the number of apps that run at startup. But right now... not even necessary.
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not needed, just like gaww stated
is a horrible thing. the second u close an app and it instantly reopens itself your cpu shoots up 100% and you end up killing more battery by doing that.
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Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
30Glock said:
Total agrement here, ATK do more harm then good, There is really nothing good that it does.
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Iight makes sense to me!
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Questions go in Q&A section!
I'm so tired of this discussion to raise any of the many valid points why task killers are bad.... just don't use them lol.
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did the tutorial from the sticky titled: "HOW TO:Root, Install Clockwork, Remove Bloatware, Integrate Google, Un-root, and more"
now im constantly running a $hit load of ram, 277mb/326mb, and the phone is not particulary any faster. if anything its kinda slow actually. just really stuttery.
any tips?
yea please don't post questions on dev forum
deaffob said:
yea please don't post questions on dev forum
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so then where should i post a development question pertaining to the samsung fascinate regarding a stickied tutorial that is in the development section?
fupamobile said:
so then where should i post a development question pertaining to the samsung fascinate regarding a stickied tutorial that is in the development section?
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either post the question in the stickied topic, or in the general forum.
As to the memory usage, Android, and Linux in general, use and allocate memory differently than in Windows. High memory usage is not necessarily a bad thing due to how the system works. Odds are, there is something else that is causing your slowdown, an app that you have installed or something that you changed. Do you have a task killer installed, or do you have a bunch of widgets installed in running? Are you using TouchWiz, or another launcher? You can use an app such as Watchdog or the built in Task Manager to see if any apps are taking up a bunch of CPU time as that is what will cause more of a perceived slowness compared to high memory usage.
imnuts said:
either post the question in the stickied topic, or in the general forum.
As to the memory usage, Android, and Linux in general, use and allocate memory differently than in Windows. High memory usage is not necessarily a bad thing due to how the system works. Odds are, there is something else that is causing your slowdown, an app that you have installed or something that you changed. Do you have a task killer installed, or do you have a bunch of widgets installed in running? Are you using TouchWiz, or another launcher? You can use an app such as Watchdog or the built in Task Manager to see if any apps are taking up a bunch of CPU time as that is what will cause more of a perceived slowness compared to high memory usage.
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Watchdog is a great app for narrowing down CPU hungry apps.
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so then where should i post a development question pertaining to the samsung fascinate regarding a stickied tutorial that is in the development section?
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Your question has nothing to do with development, thats why it doesn't belong.
OSMonitor also works well. Sounds def like an app. Task killers, lookout (an app) and virus free (app also) have been known to cause issues and are generally culprits of lag issues. Check to make sure those aren't installed
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imnuts said:
either post the question in the stickied topic, or in the general forum.
As to the memory usage, Android, and Linux in general, use and allocate memory differently than in Windows. High memory usage is not necessarily a bad thing due to how the system works. Odds are, there is something else that is causing your slowdown, an app that you have installed or something that you changed. Do you have a task killer installed, or do you have a bunch of widgets installed in running? Are you using TouchWiz, or another launcher? You can use an app such as Watchdog or the built in Task Manager to see if any apps are taking up a bunch of CPU time as that is what will cause more of a perceived slowness compared to high memory usage.
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I did that tutorial so I am using launchpro. The only extra apps I have installed BESIDES what was needed ffor the tutorial are angrybirds, robodefense, doubletwist(with all of my music),snesoid, romgripper, and I think that's it. Nothing too crazy. Is there anyway to check if that whole voodoo thing worked? Or if I did the tutorial correctly? Oh wait, isnt there like a bench mark tester orsomething?
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Watchdog is a great app for narrowing down CPU hungry apps.
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The only widget I have is for doubletwist. But it doesnt consistently run just by having the widget on my homescreen does it? Do I still need an extra task killer app?
mexiken said:
Your question has nothing to do with development, thats why it doesn't belong.
OSMonitor also works well. Sounds def like an app. Task killers, lookout (an app) and virus free (app also) have been known to cause issues and are generally culprits of lag issues. Check to make sure those aren't installed
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See above comments. Do I really need a task killer?
no don't use a task killer, he was saying that is the mistake ppl make
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devlp1213 said:
no don't use a task killer, he was saying that is the mistake ppl make
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Then what can I do to ensure my phone is running correctly? Cause it really doesnt feel like it is.
Try Watchdog or another app that records cpu usage and see if you have a rogue app hogging cpu time. Even before installing a new rom that was cleaned up and a new kernel, I didn't have any significant lag or anything, so I'd guess that you have something running in the background causing your issues.
His lag could be from rfs working too hard.
Install one of geeknik's stupid fast kernels or install one of jt's voodoo5 kernels if you want to convert rfs to ext4. rfs and stock kernel tend to generate ridiculous lag.
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His lag could be from rfs working too hard.
Install one of geeknik's stupid fast kernels or install one of jt's voodoo5 kernels if you want to convert rfs to ext4. rfs and stock kernel tend to generate ridiculous lag.
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That is only true if he has an app that is constantly writing which means the above suggestions to find said app are the best. Also on regards to kernels only voodoo kernels will address rfs problems. Only voodoo.
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@adrynalyne If you can , let me know if there are special steps for that thing you sent me. Not getting past the samsung logo everytime.
Thanks!
Hi,
What is the best Memory Management app for wildfire on Froyo ... unrooted? I don't intend to root root it either.
Current problem is ... sometimes its really slow in responding like when typing a message or opening am app etc
Please help
Thanks
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Try advanced task killer. Its free in the market.
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Are Task killers useless now on froyo? most apps will reload after 5mins.
Search for "froyo task killer" on google and have a read. There are many more articles on the net which describe why you dont need a task killer on froyo.
im on cm7, does task killers work for gingerbread? i was using auto memory optimizer, didn't feel like it sped up anything
there was debate whether app killers were necessary on eclair, but if you have froyo definitely uninstall
free up memory i think its called
dont think you need root access but dont quote me on that
Some say it helps some says it does nothing
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No... No.....
I get better battery life without it.
Don't use it for any version. Android has its own management and frees memory as needed. The only way it'll help battery is if you need to close a rogue app causing drain. For this use Samsung task manager or system panel.
Thanks for the info
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Anyone know if it's possible to remove the TouchWiz 2.2 Task Manager via Titanium Backup for example (or another method if possible), without repercussions to the stability of my phone?.. If someone could answer this or direct me elsewhere it would be greatly appreciated. I figured I would use this thread as an opportunity to plug another question as I was also curious about the OP's question too.
I choose to use the advanced task killer on the market on auto kill, while I know it's not necessarily needed for Android with JIT I feel the freed memory launches apps more quickly. It might just be mental but it's always done good by me so I use it
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Some say it helps some says it does nothing
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Unless you're using Android 1.x, there's no reason to use a task killer.
Removed mine, thanks for the info.
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I choose to use the advanced task killer on the market on auto kill, while I know it's not necessarily needed for Android with JIT I feel the freed memory launches apps more quickly. It might just be mental but it's always done good by me so I use it
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I use it too and increased my battery life. Now I use only about 1% battery drain per hour of none use.
you dont need to remove it unless if its like a AUTO killer.
I keep ATK advanced task killer on my app list.
I mean who knows when a apps just gonna go crazy on me?
and the Android Task Manager doesn't see all the apps so... thats lame, i keep mine, but use it when a app is like freezing/slowing me down
Agree while in general task killers are not needed on 2.2+, there are some applications that still missbehave and need a force kill to function properly again. Personally I just use the stock Samsung task manager and widget, which does not mess with any system services.
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I hate atk, but I do use the task manager that is included in the roms I flash. I use the task manager ONLY when an application freezes or doesn't operate correctly.
I've removed mine through Titanium. If you're uncomfortable just freeze it.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Ever since I updated to ei22 my available RAM is virtually gone and its killing my battery. My battery usage meter says 78% of the drainage is due to the android system. I have tried doing a hard reset, using a third party app killer, using a different launcher, nothing helps.
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I recently switched to launcher pro and it has helped battery life signifantly but system ram is still being hogged.
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I'm running the ACS ICS V4 rom. I have the same issue with android system eating up ram... but it has hurt my battery life at least not that i can tell.
You can give Cynanogenmod7 a try, it hardly uses any. It still has minor issues, but well worth a look.
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Im starting to think gingerbread is just larger compared to ec05. Im,getting waay better battery life and performance from launcher pro.
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Get Memory Booster Lite from the Market. It has a great task killer and you can see what apps keep loading so you can freeze or uninstall them. The stock task killer is worthless.
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Full memory doesn't kill battery, but flushing it and refilling it does. If you keep trying to free memory the system will just keep trying to fill it up again. It's how gingerbread works, keeping the most recently run apps in ram so it doesn't waste battery reloading them again. It should clear memory when you need it for something else. As far as the battery meter is concerned, they reworked the code in Gingerbread, so you can't compare usage to Froyo. It's possible your battery usage is coming from some app or widget you installed that's syncing all the time. The app killer is probably wasting more battery than it's saving.
I'm on ei22, with some bloat removed and fuju tweaks I can free up 210mb of ram
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alextjen said:
Ever since I updated to ei22 my available RAM is virtually gone and its killing my battery. My battery usage meter says 78% of the drainage is due to the android system. I have tried doing a hard reset, using a third party app killer, using a different launcher, nothing helps.
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I recently switched to launcher pro and it has helped battery life significantly but system ram is still being hogged.
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If you want to keep more ram free, use the V6 script. The V6 script will lower the ceiling of ram allowed for tasks rather than flushing it constantly and allowing it to refill- like a task killer does. Using a task killer will only kill your battery faster.
Also, this has been said in other words already , keeping tasks in ram does not kill your battery. Once a task is loaded into ram it takes no additional juice to hold it there.
+1 on the v6script I can get my ram down to 125mb. In the task manager & 80mb in the running services.
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If you want to keep more ram free, use the V6 script. The V6 script will lower the ceiling of ram allowed for tasks rather than flushing it constantly and allowing it to refill- like a task killer does. Using a task killer will only kill your battery faster.
Also, this has been said in other words already , keeping tasks in ram does not kill your battery. Once a task is loaded into ram it takes no additional juice to hold it there.
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Where can I find the v6 script, do I need,clockwork mod and be rooted?
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Yeah you'll need root (I think) and you can find it in a search or look for the how to run v6 supercharger on gbking's youtube channel. Its real simple
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Yes, you need Root, and Busybox... Most ROMs have this built in... Adrenaline Shot is nice too... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236779, you can use both in conjunction(junction whats that function) and your phone runs sweet smooth like butter.