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Hey guys the offical update just came out i just didn't notice cause they have the picture of the Touch Pro2 for it. So go and get it guys!! Just go to t-mobile.com/wmupgrade
Before I even install this...just wanna make sure. Is the HSPL going to be overwritten?
Thanks! I didn't notice it either.
yeah can custom roms still be installed?
secano said:
Before I even install this...just wanna make sure. Is the HSPL going to be overwritten?
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As far as i know it does change it from 2.08 to 2.10. so i recommend you do some research before installing this update cause as of now i don't think there is a way to override 2.10 to have hspl.
It's just the 2.13 ROM, from what I saw on the download page.
In this event: The WMobile OS version is the same.
Ok so I installed it, I then read where people said it was twitchy and such and....well it is. My clouds no longer glide across my screen, they now twitch across my screen. I'm downgrading back to 2.10 until 2.13 is better.
its working for me...
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Ok so I installed it, I then read where people said it was twitchy and such and....well it is. My clouds no longer glide across my screen, they now twitch across my screen. I'm downgrading back to 2.10 until 2.13 is better.
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i would hard reset and then see how things are going...even though when you upgraded to the new rom it hard reseted for you, just doing it to be safe
Touch Screen Not Responsive
My issue with the new version is that the touch screen is flaky. I have to swipe my finger harder to move from screen to screen and push harder to get the characters to work. Went back to a cooked rom.
No more touch response issues
I re loaded the official rom again and voila, my touch senstivity issues are gone....I am not sure what else got changes between the first release and the official one(18th May), but I am not seeing the touch sensitivity issues..its smooth and am able to click on the x button without any issue...
im having touch problem and connection problem it keeps loosing service and serches for service, i didnt have this problem on the old rom, is there anyway to fix those without going back to the old version?
Please see the general forum for the fix on sensitivity:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=683192
As for the Radio, in the 2.13 version the radio was updated, so yes you may have different results from different radios in your area, please see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733&page=3
for your answer on HSPL, yes 2.13 will overwrite it to SPL 2.10; however if you re-install 2.10 then it will re-write the SPL to 2.08, and then you can re-install HSPL....
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Cant download update
Is anyone else having a hard time downloading the update? I have been trying since last night with no luck. I even tried on 2 different computers and three different internet connections...lame!
Same problem
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Is anyone else having a hard time downloading the update? I have been trying since last night with no luck. I even tried on 2 different computers and three different internet connections...lame!
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I download early this morning and tried on WIN7; said file corrupted.
btw, download speed was like crap
Slow to non existent download speeds
I'm trying to dl the newest official update, size 220mb, speed 6kb/s, you heard right. Guessing the server is getting slammed. Can't be my internet connection, cause I'm doing this from work, I work for Comcast and I'm at the headend, have my own personal connection rated up to 25mb/s. This sucks........
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i would hard reset and then see how things are going...even though when you upgraded to the new rom it hard reseted for you, just doing it to be safe
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I hard reset and then also reflashed the ROM, still had the same issues. I liked the menu's to "bounce" when I hit the top or bottom and scroll smoothly. I applied all the registry edits and it didn't help much, like I thought it did. My Sense weather was very twitchy and it really bothered me. I downgraded back to spl 2.08 and my 2.10.531 ROM for the time being. It is much better now, I never had any issue's to begin with so the update seemed pointless.
Looking at some custom ROM's right now.
I am not sure what is up them but here is the official release again.
Get it while it is hot!
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/HTC-H...ate-Now-Available-on-T-Mobile-com/td-p/380116
Did you try this? better than the original one they put out? I'm wondering why it's the same version number. Seems like a good way to confuse people.
Supposedly there were issues with downloading the originial release, so they had to correct that. But, the version they put up is the same one as before.
I've got all 3 "versions" of the new ROM now (leaked, first official issue, and this new one now too) and they're all the same.
Confusing? Yes. Big deal? Not really
so basically this isn't going to fix any issues? you downloaded it and it's the same everything? Why would they bother?
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so basically this isn't going to fix any issues? you downloaded it and it's the same everything? Why would they bother?
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Well yes it's the same as the first release of the 2.13 ROM if that's what you mean. I think they just put it back up because there's people who didn't get it before they had to pull it temporarily for the downloading issues. I assume it'll stay available there from now on.
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Did you try this? better than the original one they put out? I'm wondering why it's the same version number. Seems like a good way to confuse people.
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I used the First release and still have it on my computer at home. I downloaded the leaked version and it was a godsend. I hear when they made it official on the 18th it caused people a lot of problem even bricking. according to the link they where having server issues and that is why they had to pull the official release but I guessed they fixed the issues now. It is the same ROM version as the one I have so your guess is as good as mine. I think sirphunkee has them all downloaded but has not implemented them and is still running 2.10xxx
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I used the First release and still have it on my computer at home. I downloaded the leaked version and it was a godsend. I hear when they made it official on the 18th it caused people a lot of problem even bricking. according to the link they where having server issues and that is why they had to pull the official release but I guessed they fixed the issues now. It is the same ROM version as the one I have so your guess is as good as mine. I think sirphunkee has them all downloaded but has not implemented them and is still running 2.10xxx
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Correct, and I should have made that clear...still on 2.10, haven't flashed any of the upgrade downloads.
Somewhere in one of the threads in this section about the upgrade, the leaked version and the first "official" releases were compared and found to match bit-for-bit. Also, T-Mobile forums had confirmation that the recent re-release is identical to the one they put up before the download issues. So, by the commutative property of Windows Mobile Mathematics (WMM), they're all the same
However, that's not to say that the end experience from those who have flashed any of the three doesn't vary greatly. Some report a near-magical cleansing of demons, others are suddenly needing an exorcism...and this is across all three "releases" of this ROM.
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Correct, and I should have made that clear...still on 2.10, haven't flashed any of the upgrade downloads.
Somewhere in one of the threads in this section about the upgrade, the leaked version and the first "official" releases were compared and found to match bit-for-bit. Also, T-Mobile forums had confirmation that the recent re-release is identical to the one they put up before the download issues. So, by the commutative property of Windows Mobile Mathematics (WMM), they're all the same
However, that's not to say that the end experience from those who have flashed any of the three doesn't vary greatly. Some report a near-magical cleansing of demons, others are suddenly needing an exorcism...and this is across all three "releases" of this ROM.
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I forget where I read...but a lot of people where having issue when the flashed to a custom rom then flashed to the upgraded tmobile rom with out returning their phones back to stock. I guess that was a major issue. Or people had to factory reset then run the upgrade I didn't do either of those things when I flashed and it worked great. I mean I didnt have CHT or Editor on but I did have a bunch of apps.
I bought my HD2 last week and the rom it came with from the factory is 2.13.531.1. I have had the phone freeze on me 2 or 3 times in the week I have owned it. Even though the rom that was just released is the same version would it still be a good idea to flash it? I am coming from a G1 and on occasion have flashed a rom and the phone ran like crap. Then upon re flashing the same exact rom the phone ran like normal.
I upgraded last evening, despite my initial trepidation.
Everything seems smooth now--a lot of the hiccups when texting seem to be gone (out of order texts, highlighting of last text sent and lag when trying to write a text that is part of a longer thread).
Swype is working a 100x better.
So far, so good.
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I bought my HD2 last week and the rom it came with from the factory is 2.13.531.1. I have had the phone freeze on me 2 or 3 times in the week I have owned it. Even though the rom that was just released is the same version would it still be a good idea to flash it? I am coming from a G1 and on occasion have flashed a rom and the phone ran like crap. Then upon re flashing the same exact rom the phone ran like normal.
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That happens with winmo as well as android....after flashing a ROM, sometimes either a re-flash, or an immediate hard-reset is needed to get it to "stick". In fact, most chefs recommend doing a hard-reset right after a new flash, just to be safe, and I've seen numberous times where a buggy install is fixed perfectly just by doing that. So, if you're fine with the effort involved, I would certainly suggest it...it certainly can't hurt
Cool. Thanks for the info sirphunkee.
Software Upgrade or ROM
I downloaded the update from T-Mobile and have it running on my HD2. Was this an update to my ROM, so a hard reset will reload this update? I talked with a T-Mobile rep on the phone who said a hard reset would remove the update and I would have to re-install it.
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I downloaded the update from T-Mobile and have it running on my HD2. Was this an update to my ROM, so a hard reset will reload this update? I talked with a T-Mobile rep on the phone who said a hard reset would remove the update and I would have to re-install it.
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Good thing you asked here to be sure
No, a hard-reset will only "reload" whatever the currently flashed ROM is...whether it's an official update or a custom ROM.
Hello All,
I am using HTC wildfire for past one month and I just love this phone. All the apps which are present and downladable are really exciting !!
Here I would llike to know few things :
1. I am getting messages of upadate 2.2 available in my phone. I do have a Wi-fi connection to do it (Wi-fi needed info I got from the mobile shop person initially)
My question is If i go for the update taking initiative through the updates message
will there be any problem (like phone may not work and the featues might not work etc etc after updation ?)
2. If anythig happens is it possible to bring back to 2.1
3. Will updation cause any other trouble (may be there will be anything which am not sure or thinking off now ?) ?
Can you guys helps me out by answering the questions . I would like to go for 2.2 as I have heard it is awesome than 2.1 but want to make sure nothing happens to the phone.
Please help.
Am from Bangalore India (if location matters for an update !!! )
This is an official update, so there will be no problems. Go go go
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This is an official update, so there will be no problems. Go go go
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk
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Hi Vassie,
Thanks for the reply - but if i go for the update is there anything else to do other than 'pressing the update button' in the message ? It will install 2.2 itself ?
Remember, you will lose the ability to root, install root apps, custom ROMs etc. However, looking at your post, it seems it is not a priority, so you might as well go for it.
* Updating should not bring any trouble, since, after all, it is an official ROM, and would have been thoroughly tested before release.
* That said it is recommended to both, restore factory settings and format SD card after the update. It is said to slow down the phone if you do not do so.
* Getting back to 2.1 from 2.2 is possible, but, it is a very long process and potentially risky, and, in general, not recommended.
As for the update, I am pretty sure it will install itself. Never attempted it personally, but, I am sure it will be a "Next - Next" type of procedure.
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Remember, you will lose the ability to root, install root apps, custom ROMs etc. However, looking at your post, it seems it is not a priority, so you might as well go for it.
* Updating should not bring any trouble, since, after all, it is an official ROM, and would have been thoroughly tested before release.
* That said it is recommended to both, restore factory settings and format SD card after the update. It is said to slow down the phone if you do not do so.
* Getting back to 2.1 from 2.2 is possible, but, it is a very long process and potentially risky, and, in general, not recommended.
As for the update, I am pretty sure it will install itself. Never attempted it personally, but, I am sure it will be a "Next - Next" type of procedure.
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Hi,
Thanks for the valuable comments....
As you have told about rooting - I would like to know what is it (just for information if you dont mind ! any special advantages ?) Also in froyo is it possible to install apps and games in SD card ?
Rooting - Process to access the root of your device. Basically allows a lot more to be done with your device, like installing root only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU etc. Apart from that, it allows overclocking and underclocking your CPU, installation of Custom ROMs (Android 2.3.2 is available unofficially) etc.
For Apps2SD, Froyo supports it natively, but, not all apps and games can be moved using that. Only supported ones. Rooting allows you to install additional Apps2SD Scripts like DTApps2SD which allows install to SD irrespective of compatibility.
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Rooting - Process to access the root of your device. Basically allows a lot more to be done with your device, like installing root only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU etc. Apart from that, it allows overclocking and underclocking your CPU, installation of Custom ROMs (Android 2.3.2 is available unofficially) etc.
For Apps2SD, Froyo supports it natively, but, not all apps and games can be moved using that. Only supported ones. Rooting allows you to install additional Apps2SD Scripts like DTApps2SD which allows install to SD irrespective of compatibility.
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Great info. OMG u mean ginger bread in Wildfire (2.3.2 !!!) Please pardon me if am bugging u asking more questions .
For 2.2 am getting an update message - how you install custom roms ?
I guess that will be your own risk !
Yes, it is at your own risk. However, it is pretty safe. There are exit routes available if something does go wrong, also, if you take a backup before installing it, getting back to it is a snap.
Refer this guide, it will tell you all about the process of rooting and installing Custom ROMs.
[GUIDE] Turkeys' Ultimate Guide to Root Wildfire v42.1.2 (Easy & Safe!)
Apart from that, here is CM7 (Gingerbread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918072
Lastly, CM7 is still in Pre-Alpha stage, so, it may be a bit buggy. Also, it does not contain HTC's Sense Interface. So, if you prefer that, you can go for Sense Based Custom ROM's like WildPuzzle and SunAabh. They look and feel similar to the official ROM, but, offer many extras. (But they are based on Android 2.2.1)
3xeno, u r a store-house of info! thanx.
can u pls put a link for downloading wildpuzzle_v8.0.11 for htc wildfire?
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3xeno, u r a store-house of info! thanx.
can u pls put a link for downloading wildpuzzle_v8.0.11 for htc wildfire?
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It is not recommended to use WildPuzzle v8 since it is based on the Chinese Froyo, and, has caused many types of problems like location not working, contacts name not displaying not properly and so on. It is recommended to use the latest WildPuzzle 2.2.1 v0.x if you wish to use WildPuzzle, and that is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877243
Still, FYI, Wildpuzzle 8.0.11 is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761927
I have a few questions.
I understand there are official updates for our phones 2.1->2.2 but they are operator based. So there are customized roms, that are with custom stuff.
I'm really intereseted in upgrading from 2.1 official rom to a custom, but dont know exactly which one to choose.
I once flashed a 2.2 but it bricked my phone, so i had it repaired (the phone didnt respond to any key combinations or anything at all).
So is there any point to upgrade if there isnt any stable roms.
And also why is everyone waiting for the official update from samsung when there are already 2.2 roms for 5800.
Lagfix seems like a thing to try out, but i want to be sure which rom is the best and so that the basic stuff works.
Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..
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Don't know about others, but my reason for not upgrading to unofficial/custom ROMs is that I don't want to risk my phone (even if that risk may be small..)..I also don't have time to backup data, reset phone, re-install app.s, do settings again etc. which might be needed in the flashing process.
Besides, from what I read in this forum, none of the ROMs seems to be satisfactory enough & ready for prime time. But frankly, I am losing my patience fast & may soon go for a custom ROM if official upgrade doesn't arrive by end of this month..damn Samsung for taking sooo long..
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Thanks for your reply, that's what i wanted to know. I was thinking the same thing that probably the custom roms arent stable enough and that the official update still aint available.
Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?
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Why don't you use a stock 2.2 ROM like the JPF?
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is it safe and works fine just like the default 2.1 that we have in our phones?
Sure ^^ and you cant brick your phone if you dont flash your bootloader^^ jpf also works faster^^ i would recommend to flash a custom rom. Like lestatious one. Everything works well on it^^ have fun
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just dont flash the bootloader and you can always reenter download mode.
backing up isn't that big of an issue, titanium backup backs up pretty much everything.
If you're planning on using titanium, just be aware that you should only restore non android apps when switching from eclair to froyo..i tried this and kept getting fc's. Just make backups of stuff in the individual apps like contacts etc, then restore them after you upgrade to froyo. Then make a full titanium backup of everything once you have your phone the way you want it. From then on you can just test any rom you like and always have a quick easy way of getting your stuff back. I recommend using astro to backup titanium so you can have a version to hand after flashing.
P.S. I use jfp ultra clean and it rocks my socks
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Ok, i might try out the stock 2.2 rom... But what about lagfixes or are they even neccessary on 2.2?
Cause my current 2.1 stock rom is really laggy, i remove tasks to clean up memory but it's still kinda slow.
Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.
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Well if you're flashing a stock rom I would definately suggest JPF because it's pretty stable. You don't necessarily need the lagfix though..I personally found it made things a bit strange with random hangs when closing applications. Oh yeah and don't forget to use the modded 3d gallery from SGS Tools (I use the "last" version). You should be able to install it via the "Upgrade stock apps" option. You can also use it to change your GPS pool to Europe if needed.
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So the jpf rom isnt europe or just needs some configs like that? But is the stock rom the best option, i don't neccessarily need all those extra stuff like samsung apps and layar etc. Pauri mentioned lestatious rom, its on JPA, for example. Is each one one of those stock roms like an update with still some bugs on them or just converted from other phone updates?
I'm between that custom rom and the JPF stock right now..
Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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Oh it's a european rom, it's just that the default gps pool is set to north america. I installed The modded 3d gallery as a work around for the battery drain bug that the stock gallery has in froyo. Jpf clean is what I'm using till theres a more stable lestat rom because I tried jp9, which was good, but the bloatware...oh my..
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i guess i'll take your word for it and try out the JPF
i flashed the JPF and so far so good. It's atleast twice as fast as the stock 2.1 i had. Thanks you all for help
one more question, how do i root froyo 2.2 ?
i tried the one click method, after the command running it said everything is fine you're rooted. In recovery mode i tried to install update.zip but it didnt work.
havent see any alternatives for 2.2
can anyone help?
Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
rooting
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
deeselcyde said:
What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
deeselcyde said:
The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.