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[Q] Quick Q

What will be the max amount of ghz that you can OC the epic to?i know right now its 1.4 can we OC more later when there are more kernels?

II5StarII Swag said:
What will be the max amount of ghz that you can OC the epic to?i know right now its 1.4 can we OC more later when there are more kernels?
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There was a mention saying 1.6ghz stable is possible...but as for the limit is unknown...I mean the original Droid started out at 600mhz I think and went up to 1.2ghz over the course of a year...for now we got 1.4ghz with 1.6ghz looking likely..in a year maybe 2.0ghz would be possible..maybe not its too early to tell.

gTen said:
There was a mention saying 1.6ghz stable is possible...but as for the limit is unknown...I mean the original Droid started out at 600mhz I think and went up to 1.2ghz over the course of a year...for now we got 1.4ghz with 1.6ghz looking likely..in a year maybe 2.0ghz would be possible..maybe not its too early to tell.
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ok thank you very much i really appreciate it

I'm so noob, how do you overclock?

Muckrak3r said:
I'm so noob, how do you overclock?
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Do you have root ?..ill just start from the top ok first follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
after you have root go into the market and download "rom manager"
after installed open and selct the top option "Flash clockworkmod recovery"
select "Samsung Epic" redo that 3 times to make sure. then reboot phone
when your phone turns back on connect to your pc select mount usb
download a kernel..here are some
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786988
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787098&highlight=Kernel
most right now come along with a rom but anyways choose one download it to your phones sd card
after power off your phone wait 5 seconds after lights turn off
boot into recovery then flash the kernel and reboot

[Q] Overclock and OpenGL

Hey everyone was just wondering if anyone did the OpenGL ES 1.1 update to their Tattoo...that was done with the HTC Hero because I was reading a previous thread when installing the new Music Player 3..that I could install this update so that the UI and other elements on the phone relating to graphics would work better...so I just want to know if anyone did it..
Next..
I want to know what speed can I overclock my processor to..I am currently running it at 652 MHz..I am wondering if it can go higher..
I am running Cyanogen mod 7
Thanks for your help in advance

my is running 710 24/7 on arco's gb rom

manilu001 said:
my is running 710 24/7 on arco's gb rom
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thanks man...can put mine up a bit now

Fastest rom to overclock with?

Hey,
I see a lot of people using CM7 is this really the best one?
Also till how many mhz I can overclock on that one?

Yes Cm7 IS really great, in fact you can customize almost everything, and I really like that feature...
As for overclocking you can overclock I think to max of 768mhz(if I'm wrong somebody please correct me)...maybe you can a little bit more but I think it is kernel related...
Hope it helps,
Best regards
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Irrespective of which ROM you choose, it is the kernel which allows (or disallows) you from Overclocking. Till date, there are 2 primary kernels which are available - HCDR.Kernel by Jacob and nFinity by arco, and both OC support upto 768MHz. (I think Deep-Knight has recently developed a new kernel for his ROM, which allows OC upto 600MHz)
Because of this, you can overclock your stock ROM also, if you so wish, by simply flashing a custom kernel.

3xeno said:
Irrespective of which ROM you choose, it is the kernel which allows (or disallows) you from Overclocking. Till date, there are 2 primary kernels which are available - HCDR.Kernel by Jacob and nFinity by arco, and both OC support upto 768MHz. (I think Deep-Knight has recently developed a new kernel for his ROM, which allows OC upto 600MHz)
Because of this, you can overclock your stock ROM also, if you so wish, by simply flashing a custom kernel.
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Hi!
Which kernels can I use for original rom, if I want to overclock? HCDR, or Deep, or what? It will make the phone instable, or not?
Thank You!

zigee said:
Hi!
Which kernels can I use for original rom, if I want to overclock? HCDR, or Deep, or what? It will make the phone instable, or not?
Thank You!
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You can use any. nFinity MC4 offers more features though, like Smartass Governor. It can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995301
Else, you can use HCDR Kernel also, if you wish, and decide for yourself which suits you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798471
It shouldn't make the phone unstable at all. But, in any case, make a Nandroid Backup beforehand.

Thank You

Well M using hell fire .. Cm7 based ....
Which is stable till 729 Mhz overclock m using max 729 and min 490 (I guess)
Phone is Much faster than before and love playing angry birds

I read all the 2 posts, but Im not sure to change the original slow kernel, for a faster. All have some bugs, battery life, wifi, etc...
I dont know, which could be better for the stock rom, or which could be better than the original.
Anyway, I want to try one of that, but I dont know which.
How can I flash just the kernel? And also back up my programs with titanium, or mybackup?
It clears everything like the rom flashing?

Ok, I made it, its cool, and faster. Thanks for the help.

is the overclocking "app" in standard cm7? Or i must go to market or anything else to download it?

Adria1234 said:
is the overclocking "app" in standard cm7? Or i must go to market or anything else to download it?
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Its standard, under Settings > Cyanogenmod Settings > Performance Settings.

[Q] Overclock Kernel WITH MultiRom

Hello,
I saw that there are kernels for the Nexus 7 making it able to overclock to 2Ghz
I dont really need the 2Ghz but 1.8Ghz is more then enough.
Is there a Kernel that allows CPU to 1.8Ghz and support MultiRom ?
Or is anyone working on it yet?
Pekeltje

as far as i can tell no kernel do over clocking more then 1.7 Ghz and you have to individually read the kernel discription inorder to determine their computability with ur preferred rom.
And please post questions in Q&A section.

I don't think that's possible.
xateeq said:
as far as i can tell no kernel do over clocking more then 1.7 Ghz and you have to individually read the kernel discription inorder to determine their computability with ur preferred rom.
And please post questions in Q&A section.
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It is possible to overclock to 1.8 GHz but looks like that only works with Android 4.1... 4.2 and up cause bootloops. You should still be able to overclock to about 1.6 GHz. However, even I am using MultiROM. I don't think you will be able to have MultiROM with a kernel which would let you overclock since it makes changes to the kernel for booting more that one system. I want to overclock too. :crying: Anyone help? Maybe manually editing the elite or motley kernel should let you do that.

You can OC to 1.6GHz and still have multirom on a number of kernels including oxydo, M-Kernel, faux etc.

Finally!
pekeltje said:
Hello,
I saw that there are kernels for the Nexus 7 making it able to overclock to 2Ghz
I dont really need the 2Ghz but 1.8Ghz is more then enough.
Is there a Kernel that allows CPU to 1.8Ghz and support MultiRom ?
Or is anyone working on it yet?
Pekeltje
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Just realised, the main thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403) has links to custom kernels. Motley takes you to 1.6. Anyone know how to take it beyond that?

[Q] Overclock

Hi!
I'm very confused now. I have find out that devs have had really hard time trying to overclock s5360. I have been told that only Merruk 2.5 (OC 1.2Ghz) kernel is really overclocked and others just look like overclocked but they really are locked to 832Mhz. Is it really so? Is Maroc-OS's previously beta file (900Mhz) just placebo?
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Here is Maroc-OS's answer to question: "Is the OC real or not?"
Background:
SGY has BCM21553 CPU which is running at 832Mhz with two frequencies (312Mhz, 832Mhz) as default. However there are some devices which are running at 1Ghz by default with the same CPU (BCM21553). That is why Maroc-OS wanted to OC his kernel.
First of all irfanbagus made a patch for s5360 to open additional freqs. Then Maroc-OS made a merruk beta file based on that patch. With that beta file you can "OC" stock and Savie #73 kernel to 900Mhz. However Maroc-OS and other devs found out that the beta file was not real OC because you can't OC BCM21553 with irfanbagus' patch. You can only add lower than 832Mhz freqs with that patch. Then Marok-OS decied to make new kernel.
Marok-OS built Merruk 2.0 which is "OC" to 1Ghz but again he found out that is was not real OC. Then he decied to try OC by different way. After much development Maroc-OS realesed first really overclocked MerrukTechnology Developer Edition V.2.5 kernel. However some people started to argue that even Merruk V2.5 kernel is not real OC. You can read the whole conversation about that starting from here to here. Maroc-OS made pretty clear that OC is working.
Then everybody noticed that AnTuTu or any other bechmark scores didn't raise up with OC (like they should). Some tester said that they can feel to faster performance and some people say that they didn't. Here Maroc-OS say that the OC doesn't work correctly but I guess that means that the kernel is not stable yet.
After same serious work Maroc-OS realesed updates to his V2.5 kernel and some people report better AnTuTu scores. Still there were some devs who said that OC is not working. Maroc-OS's final aswer to that argue is here.
That answer is what I find interesting. Maroc-OS said that the OC is semi working. When the freq is changed to over 832Mhz (1.248Ghz for example) the CPU tries to change it back to 832Mhz. Maroc-OS made the kernel to change freq back to over 832Mhz as quickly as possible. That means:
Maroc-OS said:
when the governor try always to swich to it randomly and back to 832 if he did it 20 times in a sec we got it working but not fully working one )
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So the freq is jumping between OC freq and 832Mhz. That means that OC is semi working. Maroc-OS wanted to make it fully working but never got that far because he just left from here xda.
However people didn't stop talk about is OC real or not. Here is people's opinion (link, link, link) You can read more starting from here to here. Then continue reading from here to here. Then you can check from here to here. Lastly you should check from here to here
This is the last post where Maroc-OS say something about OC.
Then let's talk little bit about other OC kernel. First one after Merruk kernel was Maroc-OS team member Mohamed.Anwar with eXtreme kernel (OC at 1Ghz). This is what Mohamed.Anwar said when Maroc-OS left. After all it turns out that Mohamed.Anwar used irfanbagus's patch to OC like Maroc-OS first did with merruk beta file. That means that eXtreme kernel is not real OC kernel.
Then there were Eve's kernel. The dev itself say that he/she doesn't know if the OC is working or not. He/she used some sources from Merruk kernels but I don't know is it really working or not. Many people say that is not real OC. Then there are Jarvis kernel and AXIOM kernel but they are based on Eve's kernel. Again, many people say that they are not real OC.
So you have to make your own conclusion about is the OC real or not!
Ps. The latest and most stable Merruk V2.5 #206 can be found from here and here but the latest modules are here.

most likely any oc is a placebo in 5360 - when I tested it I noticed no difference in performance
The phone may report its overclocked but most likely it isnt

marcussmith2626 said:
most likely any oc is a placebo in 5360 - when I tested it I noticed no difference in performance
The phone may report its overclocked but most likely it isnt
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What about Jarvis and BlackHeart Kernels?

Sameer N. Soni said:
What about Jarvis and BlackHeart Kernels?
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same

marcussmith2626 said:
same
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But I can feel the changes when I change the frequencies!

Sameer N. Soni said:
But I can feel the changes when I change the frequencies!
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placebo - it doesnt go above 832mhz

marcussmith2626 said:
placebo - it doesnt go above 832mhz
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But my SGY really gets faster after changing freqs

Sameer N. Soni said:
What about Jarvis and BlackHeart Kernels?
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I have tested all in cpu-z and some other widgets and app say "1248Mhz" but i don't know if is the real freq. of clock.

marcussmith2626 said:
most likely any oc is a placebo in 5360 - when I tested it I noticed no difference in performance
The phone may report its overclocked but most likely it isnt
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Can you tell me why they (OC) are placebo? Does it have something to with that bcm21553 has some lock code at 832Mhz? But why there are phone with same CPU at 1Ghz? If those phones are 1Ghz why s5360 cannot be oc atleast 1Ghz?
T968 : CPU: 32bit Broadcom
BCM21553, 1GHz
Alcatel OT979 3G WCDMA : CPU:
32bit Broadcom BCM21553, 1GHz
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Axiom 1.0 (1.2Ghz): Sources are from eve and people say it's not working --> Not working?
Eve.121_4 (1.2Ghz): Developer itself says "don't know its working or not" and people say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Jarvis v2.2 #29 (1.2Ghz): People say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Merruk 2.5 (1.2Ghz): Some people say that it is the only one working and some say it's not working --> Works? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
MerrukTechnology 2.0 PRE-FINAL (1024Mhz): I don't know
Merruk beta (OVERCLOCK SGY.zip) (900Mhz): People say it's not working but bogoMIPS shows 900.05 (tested myself) --> Works?

Vohukain said:
Can you tell me why they (OC) are placebo? Does it have something to with that bcm21553 has some lock code at 832Mhz? But why there are phone with same CPU at 1Ghz? If those phones are 1Ghz why s5360 cannot be oc atleast 1Ghz?
T968 : CPU: 32bit Broadcom
BCM21553, 1GHz
Alcatel OT979 3G WCDMA : CPU:
32bit Broadcom BCM21553, 1GHz
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Because bcm_tweaks (or some file like this) lock the processor to 832
Sent from my GT-S5360 using Tapatalk 2

But overclocking only makes your phone dying LOL

Not nessessary
GalKill said:
But overclocking only makes your phone dying LOL
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You are wrong. OC may decrease your phones lifetime but manufacturers never push their products to their limits. There is always possibility to OC little bit but not too much. Too much OC will harm your phone. But we can do always something. Proof of that with bcm21553 is that there are phones with frequency 1Ghz by default.

Vohukain said:
You are wrong. OC may decrease your phones lifetime but manufacturers never push their products to their limits. There is always possibility to OC little bit but not too much. Too much OC will harm your phone. But we can do always something. Proof of that with bcm21553 is that there are phones with frequency 1Ghz by default.
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But it is the best when your phone is operated with normal setting. Remmember, our phone is low end phone, everything is below average .

GalKill said:
But it is the best when your phone is operated with normal setting. Remmember, our phone is low end phone, everything is below average .
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So should'nt I use custom Governors or I/O Schedulers?

Proof it!
I have now read to whole development thead of merruk kernel. I figured out that there are only couple guys saying that oc is not working. Maroc-os and others never said that is not working. I'm not dev but I figured out that there was some problems with bcm21533 lock code (HW something) but I guess that mMroc-os made it (semi) working. So why people are saying that it's not working. Where are yours proof?

Vohukain said:
Can you tell me why they (OC) are placebo? Does it have something to with that bcm21553 has some lock code at 832Mhz? But why there are phone with same CPU at 1Ghz? If those phones are 1Ghz why s5360 cannot be oc atleast 1Ghz?
T968 : CPU: 32bit Broadcom
BCM21553, 1GHz
Alcatel OT979 3G WCDMA : CPU:
32bit Broadcom BCM21553, 1GHz
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Axiom 1.0 (1.2Ghz): Sources are from eve and people say it's not working --> Not working?
Eve.121_4 (1.2Ghz): Developer itself says "don't know its working or not" and people say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Jarvis v2.2 #29 (1.2Ghz): People say it's not working --> Not working? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
Merruk 2.5 (1.2Ghz): Some people say that it is the only one working and some say it's not working --> Works? (Any proofs bogoMIPS or FLOPS?)
MerrukTechnology 2.0 PRE-FINAL (1024Mhz): I don't know
Merruk beta (OVERCLOCK SGY.zip) (900Mhz): People say it's not working but bogoMIPS shows 900.05 (tested myself) --> Works?
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someone took into account what I said? Would not there a way to check the cpu clock? I tested the kernel merruk and Jarvis also both when applied 1248Mhz literally accelerate small GY.
Not so dev but if I remember well the only thing that prevents the oc Gy would not that file apuclock something? (remember that time does not move with the gy sources).

Try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384985
overclock to 1.2GHZ.

Simple way to check is first be at normal 832MHz and do a benchmark.
Then switch OC kernel and set OC at max. Do another benchmark.
DO NOT BLAME ME FOR ANYTHING BAD HAPPENED TO YOUR PHONE. DO AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Compare both benchmark scores.
That will sort out the thing whether OC is real boost or just a placebo.

I would like to open this thead again now because Maroc-os is back! I have tested all these oc kernels and they are good, no doubt about that. Thanks to the devs! I'm just wondering that are they really overclocked over 832Mhz ? I mean they are great but is the faster performance effect due overclocked frequencies (over 832Mhz) or something else? It woudl be really nice if Maroc-os and other great devs would say something about it.
Here is the list of oc kernels (what I know):
- Axiom 1.0 (1.2Ghz)
- Eve.121_4 (1.2Ghz)
- Jarvis v2.2 #29 (1.2Ghz)
- Merruk 2.5 (1.2Ghz), MerrukTechnology 2.0 PRE-FINAL (1024Mhz), Merruk beta (OVERCLOCK SGY.zip) (900Mhz)
- eXtreme Kernel (1.0Ghz)
Ps. You can also "overclock" stock kernel and Savie #73 kernel to 900Mhz with merruk beta file. (check this post)

New poll added!
Hi! I added new poll and edited the first post. Please read whole OC story from the first post and vote! Thanks!