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I'm rooted running stock 2.1... 5 and I have removed some unwanted apps. I imagine the system/app folder is located on a different system partition which has so much room. Since removing aps from the system folder doesn't free up any memory I figured why not move some apps in there so that I don't take up my regular app folder. Is this possible?
Since those apps will then be in the read-only partition you will have to update them manually instead of through the market.
Yeah, I have some apps which have never been updated nor do I want them to be updated. So it will work huh. How much room is there on the system partition and what will happen if I go over?
obsanity said:
Yeah, I have some apps which have never been updated nor do I want them to be updated. So it will work huh. How much room is there on the system partition and what will happen if I go over?
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download Quick System Info from the Market....it will tell you how much room is left on your system partition. Going over the limit will cause your phone to bootloop on a restart.
Got it. I assume its the system storage? It says I got 16mb free.
when restoring apps from titanium backup where does it install them, ive looked in /system/app and cant find some of them and i thot maybe the sdcard but i dont have any installed there. does anyone know or am i not looking hard enuf. Thanks and Happy New Years!
Lol found it after I moved to sdcard it goes to /mnt/asec btw for anyone else who is looking... only after moving to sdcard tho
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Non system apps are installed in /data/app/. That's where you should find the apps that you didn't move to SD.
Ok I had memory issues when I went from the Backflip to the Flipside. But thankfully links2sd made a huge difference and i was able to get all the apps I wanted using that nifty little app. Now however after this update I can't even get half the apps I had on 2.1, and that is with using Links2sd. I've tried getting rid of ATT bloatware, moving some apps to systems apps, and clearing davlik cache using Titanium Backup but it only does so much. Anyone have any solutions to get more internal storage or a better way to get apps onto the SD card because this is making the update almost not worth it...and what's worse is that we cant even revert back to 2.1 without bricking the phone....sad day!
I'm having pretty much the same issues, but I'm wondering how you moved apps to the system apps? This would be helpful to me.
How much internal memory do you have free? I have about 45mb which is less then half of what I had before the update. Im not sure what is taking up the memory. Ive removed what I can and feel is safe with Ti Backup and moved my apps with Link2SD to my SD card.
boazjuggalo said:
I'm having pretty much the same issues, but I'm wondering how you moved apps to the system apps? This would be helpful to me.
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This is done via titanium backup. Long press on the app and the menu gives you the option to convert to sys app.
pre4speed said:
This is done via titanium backup. Long press on the app and the menu gives you the option to convert to sys app.
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Yea that's how I moved it to system.
And I have about 20MB after moving a few apps and moving some to system....ugh this is frustrating
I have my wife's phone running on 60mgs free...
HiloDB1 said:
How much internal memory do you have free? I have about 45mb which is less then half of what I had before the update. Im not sure what is taking up the memory. Ive removed what I can and feel is safe with Ti Backup and moved my apps with Link2SD to my SD card.
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I have 2 or 3 apps installed (Facebook and whatnot) and I have roughly 32mb after clearing davick (or whatever it's called)
telegraph0000 said:
I have my wife's phone running on 60mgs free...
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Really, how? How many apps do you have? I have about 17 apps
JBallin4life27 said:
Really, how? How many apps do you have? I have about 17 apps
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Just basics
Adfree
Adobe flash
Adobe reader
Adwlauncher
Fruit ninja
Pandora
Jorte
Jw reader
Lik2sd
Maps
Market
Palmary weatherb pro
Pure messenger widget
Quick boot
Titanium backup
I also added opera, and that brought it down to 50megs
Tadaaaaaa.....
Hey, I just posted the SBF in the Flipside Android Development part of the forum and I flashed that and it appears that this version of 2.2.2 runs better with links2sd and has significantly made a difference in freeing up memory. I'm gonna play around with it some more but it appears to have links2sd running as well as it did when I had 2.1. Some of you may want to consider backing up and reflashing the update. Just something to consider. I'll post an update again soon after I play around with it a bit.
Do you know how much space was available on /data when you fresh flashed it?
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So, I ended up breaking something, as usual, and had to reflash, so I used the fresh 2.2 sbf. Turns out there's roughly 74mb free on /data when you first flash, although that quickly drops as the system apps (maps, market, and flash offhand) are brought up to date.
You're right!!!
My wife's phone is down to 55 megs!!!
Sorry, I meant to post again after my last post but my phone kept freezing on the red Moto screen everytime I flashed the update and I took my phone back to AT&T 3 times this past weekend only to find out it was my SD card causing the problems. Just FYI if you partition your SD card to use link2sd make sure your second partition is set as primary otherwise the 2.2 Froyo update will completely shutdown as soon as you put your card in and will not let you do ANYTHING!
That being said, you definitely have better memory after flashing the SBF as opposed to the other methods i've tried for the update. I was able to install almost all the apps and games I had previously (some I didn't add just cuz I hadn't been using em). Everything runs smoother for me and I havent had any freezing or anything. Hope this update is running well for you guys
I'm reluctant to move many things over to system apps, personally... Don't forget that link2sd won't link the dalvik-cache of system apps, so you'd actually have more free space in /data by leaving it as a user app and just linking app/dalvik/lib. I'm at roughly 95mb free currently, with a pretty reasonable amount of stuff installed, so I'm much happier now.
Another space-saving trick I've found: Titanium Backup has a folder in /data that it uses as a temp file storage, any time you restore a backup it moves the .apk over there then installs it. It's located at /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files, and also contains busybox, sqlite3, and your license file. If you're restoring a backup of a large app, this means you need a pretty large amount of space free to do so, which can be difficult on our phones. You can move this folder over to the second sd card partition that link2sd uses and symlink it without problems. Here's a (probably ugly) method:
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cd /data/sdext2
mkdir tbfiles
cp /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files/* ./tbfiles
rm -Rf /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files
ln -s /data/sdext2/tbfiles /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files
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If you have auto-link on... and move it to system with tibu... it will link the cache...
Why are you linking lib files... when you reboot... they go back to internal... you'll have memory issues at reboot that way...
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The file I manually link isn't a lib, or at least it doesn't get linked by Link2SD when you link TitaniumBackup's libs. The link stays through a reboot and hasn't caused me any issues so far, it just makes less free space required to restore backups.
As for linking libs in general, while they do tend to get unlinked on reboot, I have plenty of free space to let them exist in /data, and the newest Link2SD has a one-touch option to relink them all again to recover that space. It's not an issue unless you're linking libs and also filling your /data partition near the max.
So, I see that different roms needs different size of the partition layout of the built in drive.
But what is it actually used for?
I use my freespace app to look up how much space I got left. Since it is very limited space on the blade, and I want a couple of apps I need to learn more about this.
These are mine running on ColdfusionX latest release.
Cache 37mb (1 used)
Data 162mb (131 used)
System 220mb (202 used)
Where are the gapps installed? I flashed normal ICS gapps. Are these put in system or data? Both partitions used more space after installation?
Is cache just for the apps running? And like temporarly downloaded files from google play?
How come my data is used up so much? I thought this was all the space for my downloaded+installed apps? I have installed just a few, maybe 15mb worth of apps.
What about system? I was using like 179mb just after install. But now its up to 202 used. Are the 18 remaining MB wasted space?
Also, if I uninstall apps that came with the systems. would the system be more unused and more unused space would be wasted on that partition?
Need a clarification please
sliddjur said:
So, I see that different roms needs different size of the partition layout of the built in drive.
But what is it actually used for?
I use my freespace app to look up how much space I got left. Since it is very limited space on the blade, and I want a couple of apps I need to learn more about this.
These are mine running on ColdfusionX latest release.
Cache 37mb (1 used)
Data 162mb (131 used)
System 220mb (202 used)
Where are the gapps installed? I flashed normal ICS gapps. Are these put in system or data? Both partitions used more space after installation?
Is cache just for the apps running? And like temporarly downloaded files from google play?
How come my data is used up so much? I thought this was all the space for my downloaded+installed apps? I have installed just a few, maybe 15mb worth of apps.
What about system? I was using like 179mb just after install. But now its up to 202 used. Are the 18 remaining MB wasted space?
Also, if I uninstall apps that came with the systems. would the system be more unused and more unused space would be wasted on that partition?
Need a clarification please
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The cache is where temp play store downloads go, but most roms now redirect it to the data partition so it's safe to have a 2mb cache partition like most of us do. The data partition stores the app itself plus all data created by the app. The system partition stores the rom itself, the files needed for the phone to run, the system! Most gingerbread roms you'll be safe to have a 150-160mb system partition and 2mb cache, aloowing a much larger data partition for your apps. your 162mb data partition is very small! so no wonder you're running out of space. To create more data partition space you can install your apps on the sd card, either directly and to .android_secure or to an sd-ext partition so you can mount your phone to the PC and the apps will still run. gapps are installed in the system partition although some you can uninstall and download through the play store and then would be on your data partition. To make best use of your internal memory if you're on a gingerbread rom create a 150-160mb partition and if you're on an ICS rom then 200-210mb is best, so be prepared to give up a bit of data/app space. Also 2mb for cache will always be fine
hi guys, what if i want to re partition my sd card what would happened to my installed app on my sdcard. i mean what is the safest way to clean up my sd card then repartion it.
raizor6th said:
hi guys, what if i want to re partition my sd card what would happened to my installed app on my sdcard. i mean what is the safest way to clean up my sd card then repartion it.
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Backup all your apps+data using titanium or go backup.
Partitioning WILL FORMAT YOUR SD CARD
QuantumFoam said:
Backup all your apps+data using titanium or go backup.
Partitioning WILL FORMAT YOUR SD CARD
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thanks mate , but will ultimate backup do the same as titanium backup? i dunno how to use those backup tools, after the partition will i just install titanium backup then restore all my apps? how about my mp3s, image and videos?
I recommend go backup. Run the backup, partition the card then reinstall go backup and click the restore button
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I recommend go backup. Run the backup, partition the card then reinstall go backup and click the restore button
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I see, how about the backup I made earlier using ultimate backup? this way I don't have to reflash a rom?
thanks a lot mate.
raizor6th said:
I see, how about the backup I made earlier using ultimate backup? this way I don't have to reflash a rom?
thanks a lot mate.
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U don't need tto reflash a rom to partition SD card
QuantumFoam said:
U don't need tto reflash a rom to partition SD card
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yeah, well I uh.. got the problem solved using the application called SDmaid, my Sdcard has a free space now. thanks again.
I don't know if this has been asked before here...
Every time I try to install an app it gives me an insufficient storage available error.
In settings it shows that i have well over 2gig free space. I have tried wiping cache dalvik etc and nothing has worked. Please help!
zphantom55 said:
I don't know if this has been asked before here...
Every time I try to install an app it gives me an insufficient storage available error.
In settings it shows that i have well over 2gig free space. I have tried wiping cache dalvik etc and nothing has worked. Please help!
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Your system partition is full. You need to delete apps and whatever else gets stored in system folder. If you use titanium backup....I think it keeps backups of old apps....you gotta go into titanium backup and delete the backups of apps you use. Some large games may store data in system too.
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thanks
kj2112 said:
Your system partition is full. You need to delete apps and whatever else gets stored in system folder. If you use titanium backup....I think it keeps backups of old apps....you gotta go into titanium backup and delete the backups of apps you use. Some large games may store data in system too.
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Thanks I thought apps from the play store were all stored in /data