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[Q] Proposal to merge all Galaxy S family into 1 neat and big sub forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084
That is brilliant. Can't believe I did not post it first, it is a peeve of mine, big time.
I would like to see this as well.
I support this!
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
yes, this would be a definite plus. and give us an off topic section for us sgs users as well.
+1 .....10 char
^bump^
as i don't have any Mod power to make it a sticky, much less make the original topic cross posted across the 5 SGS forums
115 Yes
7 No
Wow...
I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
I just hope my sticky stays a sticky
jz9833 said:
It was like that at first, but I think they did this so that people wouldnt start flashing things on their phones without knowing which one it's for.
I wouldnt mind a general "Galaxy S General" forum though.
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It wasn't exactly like that at first I think..more precisely only the i9000 forum existed as it was the only device out at the time..
Right now we got almost the devices out the door and most of the stuff are compatible..if not minor tweaks make it compatible...
But yes thats exactly what the proposal will do..it will separate out the development with some room for cross development and keep the other categories like general the same
As long as the development sections are separate I think this its a good idea..
Especially if we have enough mods to watch over us...
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and also take out the Galaxy Spica subsection which no one seems to use.
I do like the idea though the only thing I'm worried about is people getting confused in the development section. And I'm assuming since the software is basically the same for all the phones then themes would work across all phones.
yeah that might be an issue. if we do merge, I think it's best if people start id'ing their thread with something like
[CAPT] dadada
[VIBR] dadada
[EPIC] dadada
Let me clear things up a bit....the Development thread will have sub-forums for each device...so anything that is unique or only for 1 device will be in the sub-forum...things that work on all devices or multiple devices will go into the main Development forum where we will tag it something like this "[V][C][F]" which would mean works for Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate only.
I agree, checking all the other SGS forums is a litle annoying.
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I didn't at first, but I found my self looking at the other forums today because its really obvious that there is tons of cross over. Of course I'd agree that development should be seperate, but cases and other things should totally be combined.
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I was under the impression that the Vibrant and Captivate don't use the same cases (Captivate has lines vs curves), so already there is an instance where this idea falls apart.
Theres going to be a SGS with a keyboard soon, that case won't be compatible with cases for the other phones.
So....we could mix the Vibrant and i9000 forums because they're basically the same form factor, but why bother.
There is enough different about all these phones that it's probably better keeping them separated.
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With that said, when there is an issue with one phone, it does seem to carry over to the others and it is freaking annoying having to delve the forums of the other phones to find a solution.
Unfortunately, what is the "better" solution? Either one is going to be somewhat confusing for somebody.
Bump.
To the people that still doesn't know about this idea, please go vote if you would like to see the big Galaxy S family forum merged.
Thanks.
Ok I love the xda forum but there are some things that tick me off and I feeli should say what I need to say to better this forum
1. XDA needs some sort of live chat service for those who need help and answers quick
2. We need more people with knowledge in rooting and flashing roms on and to anwser questions
3. Better tutorials because these tutorials aren't that straight foward and is a bit difficult make a for dummies.
Post what you think xda needs to do to better this site
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3 things I can think of right away:
1. A limit on how big your signature is. I'm so sick of seeing 1 line post and half-page long sig with bunch of worthless info in there (including your last 10 phones, gaming consoles, your cars) and load of meaninless pictures.
2. A waiting period between time when one registers and time when they can post. So many people register, don't read anything and just ask stupid questions over and over again. I'm oficially done holding people's hand to do anything that was walked-through before.
3. A required field with phone info (including bootloader, radio, rom, etc). No more guessing.
Yes, I'm demanding but I really see these forums degrading over the time.
/rant
Wow Calm Down Borodin1
You really shouldn't stop helping people out because your one of the few who actually does meaning your a huge asset to this site and its members
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Wow Calm Down Borodin1
You really shouldn't stop helping people out because your one of the few who actually does meaning your a huge asset to this site and its members
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He's not so wrong. I also noticed in the last time, that several times the same question was asked, even if the answer to the question was already given one or two days ago.
In addition it would help much to know, what is already installed on the phone, especially SPL and RADIO. So you can suggest directly some steps, without asking first about the configuration. Probably we can provide a template for the information which should be included within the signature.
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Besides if you make something idiot proof they always come out with a better idiot
I stand corrected
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For the European version, ATT, and VZW versions of this Galaxy Tablet because i don't know what the heck I'm looking at in the Development section anymore. Everything is SO clustered. I have a VZW Tab and trying to find anything in that DEV section is almost impossible. Anyone else agree???
Agreed.
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+1
Not the easiest forum to follow for specific tabs/regions.
I agree with this also.
i agree also... there isnt to much development goin on for the vzw tab.. i own a vzw tab my self. but we should have separate sections... hopefully they make it happen both development and a devoted vzw tab section.
You think you have got it hard, I'm confused as hell since I have an Asian Tab. Fffffuuuu. I'm guessing it's similar/identical to the Euro one but I'm not sure, so I haven't really tried flashing anything so far.
I agree as well, maybe with subsections for questions, ROMS, etc as well broken out of those.
Agreed, it's far too messy.
/make it happen.
Very disorderly. And for a nooblit like me almost painful.
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maybe in the future i can see a point in sub-sections
but from what ive read (and i aint done any mods to my device yet)
all the roms ect.. are clearly marked which device there for
if you cant find anything for your device thats because its not available 'yet'
the dev section is picking up great so hopefully it wont be long for things to be stable enough for a n00b like me to use, and for different device versions to become available
Sometimes i get confused too but if i got it, most things are common for the tabs and only basebands / modem firmware differs?
Agreed
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A little organization goes a long way. Start topics with "VZW CDMA" or "UK GSM" or something similar and 90% of the confusion would go away. Search might work, too. And people can start doing that TOMORROW, not when some organization is imposed.
Why would a mod close the sgs3 thread? It was a thread for fascinate owners who are considering upgrading. It was a discussion within this community by people who wanted opinions of others they have come to know and trust, not some fan boy who posts in the sgs3 forum. Why should I go there when the opinions I want are here. And it was in the general section ffs. I mean what was wrong with that, its not like it was posted in development. Get off your high horse, this is our community too.
Oh, and by the way, while you were closing this thread in general for no real reason, you missed two posts in development that don't belong. GTW
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Since xda chooses not to assign mods who are a regular part of the community, mods routinely jump in with no sense of what is actually going on in the forum and go willy nilly. Then half the forum leaves and goes to rootzwiki until the mod loses interest.
Certainly not the first time this has happened.
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Oh I know I just couldn't believe it happened to a benign general discussion thread is all.
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a bunch of bs if you ask me...im suprised chef tony did that??
Edit: Never mind
I sent him a message at least asking why... I can't find any rules that we violated. this is why I've been bugging the admin to make either me, droidstyle, some well known person in the community a mod, it happens every few months that a mod comes in here and abuses their powers or something and pisses all of us off, we need somebody who is actually a part of the community that knows what is going on.
how come none of the threads that are in the wrong section have been fixed? how come the old threads from over a year ago that we keep requesting closes on are still open? how come the excess noob posts and things haven't been cleaned up at all? all that happened is some of our fun got ruined without him even giving a reason or explanation. just because you're a mod doesn't make you part of the community, or us not part of it. doesn't matter how much power somebody gives you if you use it wrong and on things you have no knowledge about.
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Preach on. I've been on xda since the Eris and the fascinate forums since around launch. I really don't understand why xda stays with a mod system that it has clearly outgrown. The mods are good but the system sucks.
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somebody should pm sixstringsg and see if he would reopen the thread.
Got a response from Chef_Tony. Here's our conversation.
Re: fascinate forum sgs3 thread
Originally Posted by sageDieu
I don't see the point of closing that thread, it is in anticipation of the phone because nobody in the Fascinate forum has a gs3 yet... the gs3 forums are such a cluster f*** that nobody wants to try and post there anyways. we have simply been discussing the phone that a majority of the fascinate community is upgrading to, is there a certain rule or something we broke? if so then I apologize for any offense caused. we just don't see a point to taking away our discussion.
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hi,
maybe i should have given a further explanation, why i closed the thread, but since i did not read it entirely, i wouldn't want to comment on the contents.
i did not close it for a real rule violation, but simply for the reason that the fascinate general section should be exactly that, general discussion of the fascinate, tips, tricks and tutorials. of course, users of one particular device also get together to talk about other devices, but at 10 pages, i felt it got a bit out of hand, because the same thing goes on with every device and when people start talking about a number of other devices in every device's section, it might get a bit cluttered.
still, i know, what you are getting at. i am mostly active in the sgs2 forum and of course, people are discussing the sgs3 there as well, with aspects only relevant to existing sgs2 customers, like if it is a good idea to upgrade, when you already have the s2 and what plans allow you to change phone after a year and so on. i understand the fascinate thread was basically the same thing, it was targetted entirely at current fascinate users from north america, most of them on verizon plans. that is something you don't have in the sgs3 section, yet.
closing the thread was just a first step, the plan is to move the thread to the sgs3 section and re-label it to give current (and former) fascinate users a platform to discuss the sgs3, with actual s3 users to look into and maybe offer a helping hand, since they already know everything about the device, but would not actually go into other devices' forums to help people there.
this step will be done in a few minutes, then the thread will be re-opened and has a permanent re-direct from the fascinate section, so you can still visit it conveniently from your device's section.
as you see, at no point was there any issue with the thread itself, it is just some minor maintenance to keep the forum clean and organized, feel free to continue the discussion in a few minutes.
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So basically he did it so that we could have a thread in the GS3 section for once we get our GS3s. Would have been nice for him to tell us that.
lol i think there are more important things that need to be accomplished here at xda. first step would be organizing that cluster f*** of a sgsIII forum.
I was reading Chef Tony's response and at first was thinking thats bs reasoining, than he made sense and I agree with him. And its still convenient cause I check this forum not the GS3 that often, and the thread is still here is fine. I was wondering where that thread went earlier haha.
I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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I'm not seeing the thread on my phone any more, can somebody link to it please?
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Here ya go.
Reading this thread has made me a bit nostalgic. I've become quite accustomed to the little family of Fascinate owners here, small but dedicated. It now seems very real that the sgsIIIs are packed up and ready to ship. Even our threads are leaving us.
I don't post a great deal, but I follow you guys all the time. I suppose it was inevitable that the sgsIII would break things up, but it's sad nonetheless.
For those of you heading to the next big thing, I'll almost certainly see you there eventually. For those staying, I look forward to further discussions about the little phone that could.
I echo your sentiments. It's a shame that the powers that be decided to deprive us of the ability to discuss an issue that effects the community within the community. A thread in the gs3 forums is great and all but it isn't the same as it does not have the same dynamics or personalities.
Anyway, I may eventually make it over to gs3 land but aokp and devil kernel is a really nice setup on this venerable device. I honestly don't know if I can live without aosp and aokp so I may make it there eventually or just say screw it and snag a galaxy nexus on the cheap.
It's been excellent folks. This is the first phone I've ever truly found to be superb. But most of that is because of the hard work put in from devs like jt1134, adrynalyne, nitsuj, stephen, and many many others.
Those of you who are staying, I'll see you around. Those who are leaving, ill catch up with you all eventually :beer:
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This forum should be kept as place to mods, questions, news, and other development that pertains to all non quad core galaxy s3's because then we will still be able to expand on all of our phones at once instead being limited to our section only. I think the device thread separation was necessary but we should still have a place for stuff that pertains to us all
I'm confused. Isn't that what it is now? General section for AT&T, T-Mobile, Spring, and Verizon Galaxy S3's
Edit - just saw that it's all getting broken out into subforums again. Lame.
I concur
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I'm having flash withdrawals!!! I need to flash a new rom but I can't find them. I know they are separating them but is development gone until they are done?
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I'm having flash withdrawals!!! I need to flash a new from but I can't find them. I know they are separating them but is development gone until they are done?
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Find your development sub-forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29263175
stevieraveon said:
find your development sub-forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29263175
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thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
I'm all for the united dual core version forum since all great ideas can come together with no worry of carrier. Keep the forum
I'd like for it to be united as well.
Yea I like it together too I think there should be a poll or something since no matter how it is set up someone will complain
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change is good.
I'm good either way but the mods have made up their minds.
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The merge was initially done because we had high hopes that everyone would play in the sandbox nicely. Sadly this did not happen to the level we hoped for, although do not misunderstand, there was a lot of carrier-independent collaboration going on. It also ended up being a nightmare to keep clean and [relatively] free of clutter due to threads not being labeled correctly.
The Accessories sections have been merged with the International section, so clicking those links will take you to a one stop shop for advice on what to buy for your newest toy. Of course the Development and Original Development sections will continue as well.
Let's make the best of this situation. With some help from everyone, we can get everything sorted in a day or two. In the meantime, new threads should NOT be created in this section. It just increases our workload.
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+1 for keeping it unified
Carrier Specific stuff can go to their respective sections...universal issues can go here.
One love, one life. Let's get together and...
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I prefer my own section for my device. I certainly did not like having to sift through all of the Verizon locked bootloaders, Tmobile data questions, and AT&T locked LTE data switch threads. I fully support development ports from one device to another, but no need to combine all of the general sections of each device into one major one.
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I prefer my own section for my device. I certainly did not like having to sift through all of the Verizon locked bootloaders, Tmobile data questions, and AT&T locked LTE data switch threads. I fully support development ports from one device to another, but no need to combine all of the general sections of each device into one major one.
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+1 It has made XDA far less enjoyable for me. Too much clutter.
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16 of 21 votes to keep it combined. I agree
I say keep community together.Development section is still separate.This is the kind of division that Malcolm warned us about,lol.
Oh no they are separating this as i type this,i feel that xda's evil behind the scenes sponsor Aplle is behind this.
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I prefer my own section for my device. I certainly did not like having to sift through all of the Verizon locked bootloaders, Tmobile data questions, and AT&T locked LTE data switch threads. I fully support development ports from one device to another, but no need to combine all of the general sections of each device into one major one.
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Congratulations overstew
You have won my 400th thanks
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I like the the devas seperation decision but I also believe we should have a Dual core s3 forum so we can post news and other dev for all devices.
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