So I updated to NoDo bad to do a reset. Upon resetting I found out that it's still on NoDo without my apps, etc. Can't do another reset because I applied the Samsung update, and it would just go back to pre-Samsung update that is Post-NoDo.
Is there a way to flash back to 7004 so I can unlock again? I had issues with the live tiles not updating.
Samsung Focus on Rogers.
I would like to know the answer to this too... anyone??
From what I've read you're stuck out of luck. The best you could do is try and do a warranty replace (but chances are you got NoDo via warranty voiding means) or trick a friend with a pre-NoDo focus. A lot of people have been complaining about how NoDo locked their phones and have tried to do this with no avail...
No Zune backup?
neoxphuse said:
So I updated to NoDo bad to do a reset. Upon resetting I found out that it's still on NoDo without my apps, etc. Can't do another reset because I applied the Samsung update, and it would just go back to pre-Samsung update that is Post-NoDo.
Is there a way to flash back to 7004 so I can unlock again? I had issues with the live tiles not updating.
Samsung Focus on Rogers.
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As long as you didn't use the Chevron updater, you should be able to do a backup restore through the Zune software. This will restore your phone to the pre-NoDo OS version. You will lose anything you've added since the upgrade (SMSs, apps, content, etc.).
Not sure it's that easy - while I have to backup sitting on my laptop it won't regress beyond 7008. Zune shows a restore point but no joy.
From the Windows Phone Update\deviceid
-<ResorePoint> -<Properties> <OSVersion>07.00.07004.00-00000</OSVersion> <DeviceId>xxxxxxxx- xxxxxxxx - xxxxxxxx - xxxxxxxx</DeviceId> <Version>1.0</Version> <CreationDate>2011.3.2.29.21.49.44.791.</CreationDate> </Properties>
Anyone try to do a restore using the WIndows Phone Support Tool?
support.microsoft.com/kb/2530409
Read some stuff that says it may restore it back to 7004
gwoo_ca said:
Anyone try to do a restore using the WIndows Phone Support Tool?
support.microsoft.com/kb/2530409
Read some stuff that says it may restore it back to 7004
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I used it, and now I'm locked out of Chevron. I've been trying everything I can think of to either revert back to 7004, Restore Zune Backup, or Force Chevron to Work, but nothing is working yet.
Any ideas? I've tried different Certs on phone, different USB Ports, Windows Phone Support Tool, Many Hard Resets/Formats, nothing.
This may sound stupid but is it possible to take it to your Carrier's store and have them reflash the rom back to factory state?
Pinger43 said:
This may sound stupid but is it possible to take it to your Carrier's store and have them reflash the rom back to factory state?
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I also wondered about this, but my concern is that I might be placed on a NO WARRANTY black list...
Honestly I got plenty of phones replaced through ATT's warentee even after I've flashed them tons of times. (I'm talking about during the good old wm day). I never even flashed them back to the stock roms. Employees don't really know if you flashed the phone or not, they are usually pretty clueless. Just go to the store and tell them that people call you and the phone never rings. Say it happens often but not every time. Also tell them you've missed many important calls because of this issue. I guarantee you'll be leaving the store with a brand new focus.
for these reasons, it may be a good idea to keep backups of your phone's backups by backingup the backup files on your hardrive.
see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12322597#post12322597
and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1023817
munkeyphyst said:
for these reasons, it may be a good idea to keep backups of your phone's backups by backingup the backup files on your hardrive.
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Agreed.
However, roland05 was saying that the restore through Zune doesn't work. SuperSport about the same thing.
This is exactly why it's good to know in advance if a backup is going to work, as an exact replica or it's just something that gives some data back but not everything.
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My phone currently updating to version 7008 - needs update to Zune too which is downloading first.
Was on 7004.
Will let you know what happens!
I can't see any changes...
Also no saving of the changes you make in Camera or so on...
Is this the update before March Update!?
Yeah, this is just an update to pave the way for future updates. You'll find nothing new here.
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Yeah, this is just an update to pave the way for future updates. You'll find nothing new here.
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Is the Camera any better...? could be into the realms of imagination here but took a photo and it seemed clearer than previous efforts on standard settings. Phone also 'seems' a little zippier.
Not totally sure so guess things aren't that different.
Backup worked nicely though.
Mine is in the process of updating. The backup process takes a while.
I wonder if we can use someone elses backup to restore a phone? I only ask because I flashed my UK T-Mobile device with the unbranded Samsung one because it was said that it fixed Bluetooth problems. However, it has had no effect, and now I can't take my phone back to T-Mo because it's not running the original firmware. If I can get it back to UK spec, then I can take it back to a shop and swap it for a (hopefully) working one...
Done. It is only a preparatory update for the actual update containing copy and paste, improvements to Windows Phone Marketplace et.al. Ergo, it doesn't contain any new functionality and won't remove or hinder any installed jailbreak functionality.
Yup, more playing, definitely no changes I can find...camera taking a better photo just happened to be a picture in better light.
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. The phone evenually rebooted and Zune reported the following:
RESTORATION ERROR
An error prevented the restoration of your phone to its previous version. Your phone cant be used in its present condition and there are no restore points for it on this computer. Thephone might restart and return to normal if you disconnect it. For further assistance, contact your mobile operator.
ERROR CODE C101002E
Thanks Microsoft, that's a really helpful message. NOT.
I have manually updated to the latest Zune, rebooted my PC, rebooted my phone, and I get the same thing every time.
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
Loconinja said:
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. The phone evenually rebooted and Zune reported the following:
RESTORATION ERROR
An error prevented the restoration of your phone to its previous version. Your phone cant be used in its present condition and there are no restore points for it on this computer. Thephone might restart and return to normal if you disconnect it. For further assistance, contact your mobile operator.
ERROR CODE C101002E
Sorry for that. I was afraid of this happening to me when the update stalled at the 7th step
Thanks Microsoft, that's a really helpful message. NOT.
I have manually updated to the latest Zune, rebooted my PC, rebooted my phone, and I get the same thing every time.
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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Sorry about that. I was afraid of this happening to me, after the update stalled for an hour at the 7th step, so I disconnected. Luckily nothing happened to my device. But apparently several Omnia 7 are experiencing this.
Sort it out, MS.
First things first. I was updated Zune to the recent version, because I was curious it will resolve a problem with login user on one of my computers. One (Windows Vista) works fine, but another one, Windows 7 (both 32-bits versions) works fine with Zune + Market.
Silent Shark said:
I wonder if we can use someone elses backup to restore a phone? I only ask because I flashed my UK T-Mobile device with the unbranded Samsung one because it was said that it fixed Bluetooth problems. However, it has had no effect, and now I can't take my phone back to T-Mo because it's not running the original firmware. If I can get it back to UK spec, then I can take it back to a shop and swap it for a (hopefully) working one...
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I've done the same. I have (branded) T-Mobile UK phone and decided update to unbranded one. I choose version I8700XENJK1 (but I tried another one before) - for me, one difference is language Dutch / Belgium if I remember correctly.
I've read this thread and I was wondering if my phone will find update... I had no information about this.
I return home, connect Omnia to computer and update process start immediately. I had no problem with update at all. Phone during update reboots twice (or more) and it looks stable. I haven't noticed any changes or improvements... maybe it's working a little bit faster, but maybe it's a auto-suggestion.
Loconinja said:
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. (...)
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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Sorry for that mate. I really had not problem with update.
Loconinja said:
This update has bricked my Omnia 7.
When I connected my Omnia 7 to Zune today, I was notified of an update. Zune updated itself and quit. I restarted Zune and it informed me there was an update for my phone. I clicked update now and it got to step 6/10 rebooting phone. The phone evenually rebooted and Zune reported the following:
RESTORATION ERROR
An error prevented the restoration of your phone to its previous version. Your phone cant be used in its present condition and there are no restore points for it on this computer. Thephone might restart and return to normal if you disconnect it. For further assistance, contact your mobile operator.
ERROR CODE C101002E
Thanks Microsoft, that's a really helpful message. NOT.
I have manually updated to the latest Zune, rebooted my PC, rebooted my phone, and I get the same thing every time.
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH MICROSOFT. My Omnia 7 is now a brick.
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have you tried taking back battery and then reboot again?
http://twitter.com/#!/WinPhoneSupport
hard-reset Focus, should be similar to omnia 7
http://www.technipages.com/samsung-focus-hard-reset-using-hardware-keys.html
Update error
801012DD Error code - we couldnt create a backup of your phone
Help !!!!!
Have you got samsung tools installed?
I have tried twice to install the update. Both times I got stuck at 7 or of 100 with 100%.
The only thing I have done my phone is to unlock it with chevron.
Altough I did have it in flight mode at the time to prevent relocking.
Do you think that would have affected anything?
Still nothing showing up for me yet. Those who got the mini update does your 3 button combo into download mode now work if you had a phone that didnt let it happen before?
Lordao
lordao said:
Still nothing showing up for me yet. Those who got the mini update does your 3 button combo into download mode now work if you had a phone that didnt let it happen before?
Lordao
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Three button combo now gives me the rather scary option to Format or Cancel. I thought Cancel would be the way to go....
Successful Updaters: Please post your Firmware revisions
For those who have managed to get the update installed without error, can you please post here your firmware revisions. We may be able to work out which models are affected by the issue.
There are rumours that this update only affects firmware versions JI9 and JJ4 while the JK1 firmware is unaffected.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-phone-7-update-bricking-some-samsung-omnia-handsets/11501
gc48067 said:
Three button combo now gives me the rather scary option to Format or Cancel. I thought Cancel would be the way to go....
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Are you saying the Download Mode is no longer accessible after updating?
scoob101 said:
For those who have managed to get the update installed without error, can you please post here your firmware revisions. We may be able to work out which models are affected by the issue.
There are rumours that this update only affects firmware versions JI9 and JJ4 while the JK1 firmware is unaffected.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/windows-phone-7-update-bricking-some-samsung-omnia-handsets/11501
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How can I check which firmware revision I am using?
Curious that I see no reports of install problems with Mango on the Dell....yet, especially with those coming from any of the Beta's. Has anyone seen any reports anywhere?
I'm here to report 1.
I was on Mango release build. I flashed back to 7004, and followed the update path to 7008, then 7403 then the release build.
When completed, the VP is in a reboot cycle triggered by any touch. I've done this several times.
The reboot cycle appears as follows:
The update completes with no error and the final reboot starts. On reboot, if no sim is in place, the sim error screen appears. This is normal. Touch the screen to close, forces a reboot, regardless of the update complete message.
Repeat process, this time with a sim in place, Update is installed, success messages appear in zune and on the phone. Disconnect phone, touch the screen, reboot occurs.
Repeat process. let the phone reboot until it reaches the desktop. connect via cable to zune. The device is recognized, but NO sync occurs. Go to settings/update and the current build is recognized. Restore is available, and will work.
if the screen goes dark, slide up or touch power will bring up the Lockscreen. Wifi does show, so does 3g and battery, but NO lockscreen release options are available. Again, any touch forces reboot.
I've reported to Microsoft, but was not considered serious since it cannot be reproduced.
Did the update with my HD7 so Zune, the downloads, etc are in place and working.
Getting back to 7392 is an option, so I am not dead in the water. But wanted to make sure reports of problems with the update were reported.
Since I flashed back to 7004, I lost the firmware updates. I noticed that the subsequent updates do NOT flash any firmware. According to MS EULA, all updates are cumulative...contain all previous updates. I have flashed from 7004, to 7008, to 7392 to 7304. During none of these flashes has the firmware been updated. the 105 firmware is maintained. I thought I read that the 7420 update included the 219 firmware....
anyone else having this problem?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1280097
Please read my problem I have encountered and how I have solved, hope this helps.
After step 6 while trying to install Mango I recieve error code 801812c1.
I faced a problem while updating to Mango via Zune software.
My phone kept restarting while installing 7.10.7720.68 update. Stuck in step 8/9 for about 30 mins.
I did the following to recover, nothing worked.
1. I guess my phone got bricked, stuck in an infinite restart loop. I cancelled my update and removed the data cable. Removed battery and put it in again, tried restarting, still in infinite loop. Thanks DELL & Microsoft!
2. I read in Dell forum that I have to turn off my phone, then hold down Power Button + Volume Down + Camera button to enter PC download mode, so that I can restore it from Zune software. Trying it now.
3. Restore from Zune doesn't work, even its stuck at 0% for about 30mins.
4. After a few tries, removing battery, removing the SIM and doing some random stupid stuff, tried again the restoration seemed to work, I mean it started to restore.
5. Finally, I guessed its time for me to give up. Restoration failed with Error Code 8018009B. So its bricked for now.
6. I was greeted with this nice message from Windows Phone support tool
"Communicating with device. Please wait for Recover button to be enabled.
Support Tool version 4.8.2345.0
The tool cannot recover this phone. Please contact technical support."
I didn't even force the update, it was regular update which I was able to start from Zune without forcing it. NOW ITS BRICKED!
7. I took my phone to Dell Service Center, those guys couldn't figure out the problem, they said its a new phone here in India and don't have any technician to fix it.
I posted the same in Engadget, I got no response from anyone, so am posting here hoping to get a solution. I at least want my phone working, I'm happy without mango.
theonlyremedy said:
I faced a problem while updating to Mango via Zune software.
My phone kept restarting while installing 7.10.7720.68 update. Stuck in step 8/9 for about 30 mins.
I did the following to recover, nothing worked.
1. I guess my phone got bricked, stuck in an infinite restart loop. I cancelled my update and removed the data cable. Removed battery and put it in again, tried restarting, still in infinite loop. Thanks DELL & Microsoft!
2. I read in Dell forum that I have to turn off my phone, then hold down Power Button + Volume Down + Camera button to enter PC download mode, so that I can restore it from Zune software. Trying it now.
3. Restore from Zune doesn't work, even its stuck at 0% for about 30mins.
4. After a few tries, removing battery, removing the SIM and doing some random stupid stuff, tried again the restoration seemed to work, I mean it started to restore.
5. Finally, I guessed its time for me to give up. Restoration failed with Error Code 8018009B. So its bricked for now.
6. I was greeted with this nice message from Windows Phone support tool
"Communicating with device. Please wait for Recover button to be enabled.
Support Tool version 4.8.2345.0
The tool cannot recover this phone. Please contact technical support."
I didn't even force the update, it was regular update which I was able to start from Zune without forcing it. NOW ITS BRICKED!
7. I took my phone to Dell Service Center, those guys couldn't figure out the problem, they said its a new phone here in India and don't have any technician to fix it.
I posted the same in Engadget, I got no response from anyone, so am posting here hoping to get a solution. I at least want my phone working, I'm happy without mango.
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Sorry to hear this....but, I think you'll be happier with Mango...About your phone...
If this was NOT a forced update, Dell may be able to help you. Microsoft has made updating 'almost' brick free. If you log into Zune, a backup is made, you're using the cable that came with dell, not using a USB hub, have a solid internet connection,and are NOT forcing the update, the blame for the problem could fall onto the update itself.
As part of a test team, I used to try and brick Windows Phones. The easiest test was to remove the cable during different phases of update. I was never able to brick the phone. Sudden power loss on the PC also was tested. Never was able to brick a phone. Apparently the download and transfer process is done in parts, meaning the update is downloaded, completed, then transferred to the phone, then installed. If the update is interrupted during download, no worries, or even transfer, no worries, reboot the phone, try again.
The process of install is done 100% on the phone so no bad cables, or shut down of internet can impact it. Even if connection between PC and phone are lost during the install portion, the message still tells you to check the phone. The install will continue.
that leaves only the relationship between the installation and the files itself. If the update package is corrupt or damaged, then it may not be able to successfully complete. If this is the case, you have an issue with Dell and Microsoft. Since Microsoft can only help you with software, I argue that you would have relief, as in possible phone replacement, from Dell.
Do you have a way of contacting Dell from India?
alodar1 said:
Curious that I see no reports of install problems with Mango on the Dell....yet, especially with those coming from any of the Beta's. Has anyone seen any reports anywhere?
I'm here to report 1.
I was on Mango release build. I flashed back to 7004, and followed the update path to 7008, then 7403 then the release build.
When completed, the VP is in a reboot cycle triggered by any touch. I've done this several times.
The reboot cycle appears as follows:
The update completes with no error and the final reboot starts. On reboot, if no sim is in place, the sim error screen appears. This is normal. Touch the screen to close, forces a reboot, regardless of the update complete message.
Repeat process, this time with a sim in place, Update is installed, success messages appear in zune and on the phone. Disconnect phone, touch the screen, reboot occurs.
Repeat process. let the phone reboot until it reaches the desktop. connect via cable to zune. The device is recognized, but NO sync occurs. Go to settings/update and the current build is recognized. Restore is available, and will work.
if the screen goes dark, slide up or touch power will bring up the Lockscreen. Wifi does show, so does 3g and battery, but NO lockscreen release options are available. Again, any touch forces reboot.
I've reported to Microsoft, but was not considered serious since it cannot be reproduced.
Did the update with my HD7 so Zune, the downloads, etc are in place and working.
Getting back to 7392 is an option, so I am not dead in the water. But wanted to make sure reports of problems with the update were reported.
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Called Dell Mobility. Even though I could restore back to previous version, they offered to replace the device, which I took.
Kind of sad though, I've never had problems with wifi or anything else on this phone. In fact the only problem ever with a VP was me dropping the thing. I'm hoping the refurb I get will also not be a problem.
alodar1 said:
Sorry to hear this....but, I think you'll be happier with Mango...About your phone...
If this was NOT a forced update, Dell may be able to help you. Microsoft has made updating 'almost' brick free. If you log into Zune, a backup is made, you're using the cable that came with dell, not using a USB hub, have a solid internet connection,and are NOT forcing the update, the blame for the problem could fall onto the update itself.
As part of a test team, I used to try and brick Windows Phones. The easiest test was to remove the cable during different phases of update. I was never able to brick the phone. Sudden power loss on the PC also was tested. Never was able to brick a phone. Apparently the download and transfer process is done in parts, meaning the update is downloaded, completed, then transferred to the phone, then installed. If the update is interrupted during download, no worries, or even transfer, no worries, reboot the phone, try again.
The process of install is done 100% on the phone so no bad cables, or shut down of internet can impact it. Even if connection between PC and phone are lost during the install portion, the message still tells you to check the phone. The install will continue.
that leaves only the relationship between the installation and the files itself. If the update package is corrupt or damaged, then it may not be able to successfully complete. If this is the case, you have an issue with Dell and Microsoft. Since Microsoft can only help you with software, I argue that you would have relief, as in possible phone replacement, from Dell.
Do you have a way of contacting Dell from India?
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Thanks alodar1..
I asked Dell to do a service and added that I don't need an replacement. The service guy said the phone is new and they are not trained to service this, so they would only do a replacement. I'm not ready to do a replacement, they ask me to go for international warranty, moreover they replace with factory refurbished phones.
BTW, I would like to know if there is anyway to format the memory card without removing or replacing. Right now I have another problem whenever I press the power button to boot my phone it directly goes to Software Download mode, the camera button was never pressed.
While trying to repair using Windows Phone Tool, I received this error "The tool cannot recover this phone, please contact technical support", so being a little curious I fired up .NET Reflector and loaded the tool to find out what was happening, I found that the this error is thrown if the phone is not Samsung made (see attached file). Is there any similar tool for Dell Phones?
*UPDATE 1* Is there anyway to force flash without using Zune, any third party tool, Zune seems to go to restore mode and can't find my phone. I have a feeling that erasing the contents of SD card will solve the problem.
*UPDATE 2* I did the registry trick and was able to see my DVP in Computer window. But instead of one DVP, I see 2 and both have storage of 3.75 GB each. But my DVP is 16GB, both DVP are empty. Previously I was never able to see my DVP even after registry patch. Now I have feeling that corrupt drivers caused the problem, yesterday I completely removed and reinstalled Zune Software, now the registry patch worked.
Please let me know with problem my DVP could be hardware fault or just the software. If its hardware then I'll go for replacement right away.
Just recieved my replacement VP. Ordered yesterday around noonish. Went downstairs to get the Motorola Xoom box that was delivered...and the VP was there too. Bonus....
Did not come with Mango....but....there's not a scratch on this thing....not a rub, not a bump...nothing. Still has plastic in places I doubt they would put plastic after refurb. I'm wondering if I got one of hte left over new ones....
Doesn't matter....Mango won't install no matter what...so...maybe I'll try ICS.
My Mango is now Ripe..
alodar1 said:
My Mango is now Ripe..
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Nice to hear that!
alodar1 said:
Since I flashed back to 7004, I lost the firmware updates. I noticed that the subsequent updates do NOT flash any firmware. According to MS EULA, all updates are cumulative...contain all previous updates. I have flashed from 7004, to 7008, to 7392 to 7304. During none of these flashes has the firmware been updated. the 105 firmware is maintained. I thought I read that the 7420 update included the 219 firmware....
anyone else having this problem?
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How do you flash it back to 7392? I need to flash mine.
theonlyremedy said:
Nice to hear that!
How do you flash it back to 7392? I need to flash mine.
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not a flash, but a restore. I've always made copies of my backups ...
You an't reflash as the user above me already said, that said, the backups are stored in
=> %userprofile%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
so for backing up your restore poiints you can copy that folder and then keep it.
theonlyremedy said:
Nice to hear that!
How do you flash it back to 7392? I need to flash mine.
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I was just curious. I wanted to fix my phone. The backup restore didn't work. I was just looking for some way to flash it or at least format the SD Card, so that I reinstall OS and can get my phone working. After four days of trying to fix my phone, I finally gave up and sent it for service to Dell. I even copied a little bit of code from phone support tools and tried them, I was just able to get the phone details without any problem, Mango was installed in the phone, but still it didn't boot. It would be good if we find a way to touch the SD card and format it from PC, probably we'll be able to revive many bricked phones. I would be happy to join the project if some one starts it. I can write C# code.
Mine is an error during backup
Error Code 801812DC during backup
I also add new thread.
If anyone knows, please tell me what I need to do.
hello,
my wife has an open lt15i, not branded and rooted with the latest official firmware. since about 2 weeks she is not able to call 2 numbers. unfortunately these numbers are quite important - they are from our 2 children. when she tries to call these 2 numbers she only hears a short snap or signal noise and that´s it.
as i have no clue where this comes from and ics is still a few weeks ahead i want to go back to the last firmware (.42). unfortunately i didn´t found if i loose everything when i use the flashtool to flash the last firmware.
so is it possible to flash .42 over .62 and keep all settings (contacts, call logs, sms, apps, settings, etc?)?
sorry if this is already asked and answered somewhere here, i read a lot - but didn´t found it.
thank´s a lot for your help!
brgds Deas
Sounds like you git the two numbers blockd on the phone
Try factory-reset, you will loose all data (settings etc. and not contacts)
From my sexy LT15i
Hi,
Yes, you can flash .42 baseband using flashtools
Just remember to make a backup before that.
BTW, as "TheHaso" mentioned, try factory reset first.
she didn´t allowed me to do it this weekend. she uses this phone also for her shop so i really understand her...
what i did so far is to ckeck if there are any numbers blocked on the phone - nothing that i could find. then i installed mybackup because this is the only one i found that does not need a rooted phone and did a complete backup to the local sd. so at least i have a backup of the data now.
i´ll try the factory reset hopefully tomorrow evening if i am allowed. supid question, but if that does not change anything, is the backup with mybackup enough to restore the phone to the exact state as it is now?
and about the downgrade to .42 - i read in the ics thread that you can selectively choose what to flash. if i remove data - will this work? or do i need to restore the mybackup after the downgrade?
sorry for all these questions, but i don´t want to play russian roulette with my wifes phone data...
thank´s a lot for your help!
brgds Deas
1. I havent tried mybackup, but I think in trial mode, you might have some problems restoring your data in ICS! but should work on the same firmware.
2. As far as I'm concerned, selective installation was devised in order to make the released ICS work with flashtools and now it can be done with new flashtools v7 just in one step.
I reckon It won't be a good idea not to wipe user data while flashing ICS.
i had now time to play with the phone. and it is still working!
i was short before doing a factory reset, but then i had the idea to put the sim in another phone - surprise - i am still not able to call these 2 numbers! so it must be something provider related. will call them tomorrow...
then i did a downgrade with flashtool to .42 and i unchecked user data. the downgrade worked fine, everything is still there. and now i have a rooted arc!
thank´s a lot for your help!
brgds Andreas
we decided to change provider - now everything is working again. my wife can call all numbers!
i decided to upgrade the rooted phone again to the latest firmware, but i think i don´t did it right...
actually i wanted to do it on the phone, but the updater just said that there was an error and i should try it again. then i decided to do the upgrade via pc companion. it worked, but now i have a unrooted phone...
first question: what was my failure?
second question: when in a few weeks the official ics will be released - can i root my phone after the upgrade? or is this not possible with ics? basically i want to stay with the original firmware and just remove the bloatware.
thank´s a lot for your help!
brgds Andreas
Hi guys, I tried searching the forum for this same question as well as googling, but I seem to have failed at that, so I stopped lurking, registered and am asking directly:
I am planning on selling my Omnia 7, but am curious as to how the whole "reset my phone" option works. I have mango update, not interop unlocked tho (I didn't update the latest 2 bugfixes fearing that my unlock would go away, although after some lurking that fear is proven irrational) and I want to "advertise" my phone as jailbroken, but I can't seem to be able to "detach" my hotmail account from the phone, and people have suggested that "reset my phone" option takes the phone all the way back to initial configuration. Now, what I'm curious about is - does this option also undo my jailbreak?
If so, how hard is it to re-unlock the phone for the new owner (I'd like to help him out as much as I can, in case he is not a tech-savvy guy and would rather get a fully unlocked product hassle free)?
I got my Omnia 7 and unlocked it via chevron, so it was fairly easy.
Thank you in advance for any help provided .
If it really is Mango, and not 8107, than you need to hard reset the phone and windowbreak it again. You don't need to enter your liveID to do this. After that, your phone will be clean of ALL your info, files and settings and jailbroken. You can than update it to the latest OS version (8107) via Zune so you can advertise that too.
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/the_windowbreak_project-12-23-11
PS: The buyer will not be able to windowbreak again if he needs to if you don't provide him with the backup files from your computer, because samsung has "fixed" the hole windowbreak was using in the new updates. You could backup your phone after the hard reset (but before you update it to 8107) and provide that. It should not be a huge file when the phone is hard reseted.
d.a.v.o.r said:
If it really is Mango, and not 8107, than you need to hard reset the phone and windowbreak it again. You don't need to enter your liveID to do this. After that, your phone will be clean of ALL your info, files and settings and jailbroken. You can than update it to the latest OS version (8107) via Zune so you can advertise that too.
http://windowsphonehacker.com/articles/the_windowbreak_project-12-23-11
PS: The buyer will not be able to windowbreak again if he needs to if you don't provide him with the backup files from your computer, because samsung has "fixed" the hole windowbreak was using in the new updates. You could backup your phone after the hard reset (but before you update it to 8107) and provide that. It should not be a huge file when the phone is hard reseted.
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Amazing response Davor, 100% documentated and acurate.
d.a.v.o.r - your answer is much appreciated, however, I found a video on youtube demonstrating windowbreak method being done on the same version of software (how I forgot to mention that in my first post is beyond me and I apologize for being vague) I had and it was being done after the uploader restarted his phone using the "reset my phone" option, so I took that as a sure sign it could be done with no problem.
Sold my phone, buyer seems to be a regular on XDA tho, so I'm guessing he'll have no problems whatsoever .
Hi guys,
Can someone tell me the best way to make an exact copy of a brand new phone so that I can always go back to the 'as new' config.
This would be a new phone straight from the box.
Thanks
frostyboy998
frostyboy998 said:
Hi guys,
Can someone tell me the best way to make an exact copy of a brand new phone so that I can always go back to the 'as new' config.
This would be a new phone straight from the box.
Thanks
frostyboy998
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Data factory reset?
Well the best way is to get a copy of the image that the factory uses.. Well, perhaps that is impractical.
The most faithful copy that we could probably do from home would be using dd from the command line to make a sector by sector image. But you need super user (root) to do that. Possibly you could do it from an ADB session without root (untested). Using the linux dd utility or an ADB session are cumbersome and rather technical for many end users though..
In practical terms, either as gee2012 suggested above. I'm not certain that would get you to an exactly out of the box experience.. but it would be close.. easy to do and repeatable. So a decent solution. And should the file system get really messed up, you could presumably reflash a full OEM image to get back to that point as well.
Or another approach that I would favour myself would be to do a full Nandroid instead to resolve small discrepancies that probably exist between out of the box and the state a factory reset would put the device in. The downside being that a full Nandroid is easiest to do with a custom recovery.. and that will trip the Knox counter which will have warranty implications for some. Whether it affects your warranty depends on country you reside in, how well national legislation there protects consumer rights, whether your carrier cares about Knox and whether you care about the warranty much to begin with.
I would take the out of box phone, flash a custom recovery, and then do a full Nandroid backup. Your nandroid then will be an exact representation of your out of the box configuration, save for the recovery per se. To restore precisely would be one or two steps. Restoring the Nandroid would revert everything except recovery to the out of the box condition. And should that point matter, then one could do the second step of restoring the stock recovery as well..
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Download from Sammobile the ROM, so you can flash via ODIN.
Thanks for your comments.
Here is my reasoning.....
I currently use a Galaxy S3, pending getting the S5 very soon.
When I first got my S3 it seemed perfect. Everything worked well.
I have since done a number of Kies updates and also a couple of Sammobile updates via Odin.
Every time I updated, there seemed to be some things that didn't work as well.
So I decided to try and revert to the original firmware that came with my mobile, via Sammobile and Odin.
I have done this, but now, whenever I leave a wifi zone, my mobile internet seems to connect when it feels like it. Sometimes not at all.
I have to switch mobile internet off, restart the phone and then switch mobile internet back on, to get it to start up.
When I get my new S5, I would like to have an exact copy of the phone, so that I can always revert to my very own original setup if I choose to.
Apparently after updating beyond Android 4.3, there came a change in the format of the EFS folder, which prevented stepping back.
I don't want to be forced into that position again, so want a perfect copy!
From my reading, it appears I would have to root the phone, install Titanium backup, do a full nandroid backup, then unroot the phone and reset the counters to be back in warranty.
Am I right or would that not work?
frostyboy
edit: After updating firmware on a phone, does a factory reset change back to a previous firmware? I would think not. I think it would just reset all the added consumer stuff. (contacts, apps, emails and sms etc)
frostyboy998 said:
Thanks for your comments.
Here is my reasoning.....
I currently use a Galaxy S3, pending getting the S5 very soon.
When I first got my S3 it seemed perfect. Everything worked well.
I have since done a number of Kies updates and also a couple of Sammobile updates via Odin.
Every time I updated, there seemed to be some things that didn't work as well.
So I decided to try and revert to the original firmware that came with my mobile, via Sammobile and Odin.
I have done this, but now, whenever I leave a wifi zone, my mobile internet seems to connect when it feels like it. Sometimes not at all.
I have to switch mobile internet off, restart the phone and then switch mobile internet back on, to get it to start up.
When I get my new S5, I would like to have an exact copy of the phone, so that I can always revert to my very own original setup if I choose to.
Apparently after updating beyond Android 4.3, there came a change in the format of the EFS folder, which prevented stepping back.
I don't want to be forced into that position again, so want a perfect copy!
From my reading, it appears I would have to root the phone, install Titanium backup, do a full nandroid backup, then unroot the phone and reset the counters to be back in warranty.
Am I right or would that not work?
frostyboy
edit: After updating firmware on a phone, does a factory reset change back to a previous firmware? I would think not. I think it would just reset all the added consumer stuff. (contacts, apps, emails and sms etc)
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Rooting with Towelroot doesn`t trip KNOX but flashing a custom recovery to make a nandroid backup will and is irreversible. Best is to backup the EFS folder after you are rooted with an app here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/efs-samsung-tool-universal-support-t2602325 or with adb as documented here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2737448.
BTW Triangle Away doesn`t work on the S5 atm so resetting the status to official after you flashed custom software with Odin isn not possible