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I think this needs a separate topic to get everyone's attention.
So after reading up this morning on various forums, there are two ways people are bricking their phone:
Being impatient and doing a battery pull. The update takes up to 30 mins. It will sit on the 4G logo screen for a while. Don't touch it!
Running the update again. There is a bug where it notifies you the same update is available. Only run the update once!!! A second time WILL brick your phone!
More info on AF:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/110696-warning-do-not-reapply-update-after-updating.html
coolguy949 said:
I think this needs a separate topic to get everyone's attention.
So after reading up this morning on various forums, there are two ways people are bricking their phone:
Being impatient and doing a battery pull. The update takes up to 30 mins. It will sit on the 4G logo screen for a while. Don't touch it!
Running the update again. There is a bug where it notifies you the same update is available. Only run the update once!!! A second time WILL brick your phone!
More info on AF:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/110696-warning-do-not-reapply-update-after-updating.html
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I like how you put that, good idea.
I just want to say that I'm completely stock, and the update didn't take nearly a half hour. Download plus install took maybe 15 minutes.
Yeah, same here but I read that some people are taking 30 mins. I just put it there to be safe.
I assume the reason it takes so long is because it is updating directly OTA?
If so, why doesn't the phone download the entire update, confirm the files and then update locally? Doing it this way should be MUCH faster and avoid this issue.
ramiss said:
I assume the reason it takes so long is because it is updating directly OTA?
If so, why doesn't the phone download the entire update, confirm the files and then update locally? Doing it this way should be MUCH faster and avoid this issue.
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no one in their right mind would do a real OTA update, there are way too many variables to be transfering system files and updating at the same time. They download the update, confirm file integrity, then update from the file on the SD card.
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no one in their right mind would do a real OTA update, there are way too many variables to be transfering system files and updating at the same time. They download the update, confirm file integrity, then update from the file on the SD card.
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Thats what I would have expected. So why does it take 15 minutes!! I have never flashed a rom that took longer than 3-4 minutes.
Edit: Don't forget also that no developer in their right mind would release an update that would brick the phone....and yet reports are that it is pretty easy to do!
ramiss said:
I assume the reason it takes so long is because it is updating directly OTA?
If so, why doesn't the phone download the entire update, confirm the files and then update locally? Doing it this way should be MUCH faster and avoid this issue.
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You download it, then you can choose to install now or install later.
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Thats what I would have expected. So why does it take 15 minutes!! I have never flashed a rom that took longer than 3-4 minutes.
Edit: Don't forget also that no developer in their right mind would release an update that would brick the phone....and yet reports are that it is pretty easy to do!
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idk, who says that HTC/Sprint are master coders and there are zero bugs in everything, there could be a bug in it that makes it sit in a few places.
there is a bug with this update that causes it to show up twice and applying it the second time bricks the phone.
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idk, who says that HTC/Sprint are master coders and there are zero bugs in everything, there could be a bug in it that makes it sit in a few places.
there is a bug with this update that causes it to show up twice and applying it the second time bricks the phone.
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Update only showed up once for me. No issues.
Yep worked fine for me. Also, easytether works fine with this update.
The reason the update is taking so long is because it's over 21mb. There's a new radio, updated qik, updated quickoffice, and tons more. That's also why the phone has to reboot 3 times also.
thanks for the information.
jobryan26 said:
The reason the update is taking so long is because it's over 21mb. There's a new radio, updated qik, updated quickoffice, and tons more. That's also why the phone has to reboot 3 times also.
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One reboot for me... guess 3 is not required.
Jye75 said:
One reboot for me... guess 3 is not required.
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Really that's weird.. You are not having any issues? Everyone I've talked to it is taking around 15min and 2-3 reboots. I guess its your lucky day!
jobryan26 said:
Really that's weird.. You are not having any issues? Everyone I've talked to it is taking around 15min and 2-3 reboots. I guess its your lucky day!
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Unless the first two were silent... the process took about 15 minutes from start to finish, and I only had the bootup sound once, then it was done. No issues.
It is bricked. How to de-brick it?
As many others, I have inadvertently bricked the phone by installing the update twice.
Does anyone has a slightest idea how to debrick it? Waiting for a replacement might be quite lengthy ...
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this is important to get back to the top with all the non-substantiated posts about "update = brick"...
this has facts - read them and follow accordingly... update = POSSIBLE brick
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lol! an hour too late.
dammit.. my phone is bricked!
just when I start to like this phone....
On the phone with Sprint. The tech said they are getting a lot of calls about bricked evo.
Good job HTC! Time to sack those programmers.
I first reported this morning that after the first OTA update, a second update became available and was downloaded by my phone. I did not install it because I was noit sure what it was...and I am glad I didn't! This update appears to BRICK phones, so beware of this second update and DON'T INSTALL IT!!!!
Brick rooted phones? Mines completely stock, will it be bricked? If it does get bricked can I get a new Evo?
Don't download an OTA update if your rooted. pretty simple. You won't download an update for a patched piece of software
Plancy said:
Brick rooted phones? Mines completely stock, will it be bricked? If it does get bricked can I get a new Evo?
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shouldn't/won't brick it, if it does yes you can get a new one.
Nope, it doesn't brick stock phones.
Plancy said:
Brick rooted phones? Mines completely stock, will it be bricked? If it does get bricked can I get a new Evo?
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Uhm, no. Because there are no Evos to be had, so you can brick your Evo all you want but you won't get a new Evo.
Update breaks root nowai
sent with my evo from a secret place
jasonleb1 said:
Uhm, no. Because there are no Evos to be had, so you can brick your Evo all you want but you won't get a new Evo.
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OH yeah I forgot, I'd be without a phone for a while .
jasonleb1 said:
Uhm, no. Because there are no Evos to be had, so you can brick your Evo all you want but you won't get a new Evo.
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Of course he will, as long as Sprint can confirm he didn't break his warranty. They'll give him a new one when their new shipment comes in. After all, it would be their fault and they would have to provide a replacement.
Second update? I did the ota update my evo works even better now! But I didn't get a second update
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
wortiz33 said:
Second update? I did the ota update my evo works even better now! But I didn't get a second update
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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A friend said something about seeing it when he re-searched for an update. Not sure if others are getting a prompt or what not after initial update.
Also bumping so it's nearer to the top.
Yeah, I'm not getting an option for a second update. Maybe it's only area based.
It's not a new update its the same one and if you reply yes your definitely gonna get a brick Sprint messed up lol bringing back the old Samsung instinct days lol
it would help alot if you shared the name of this update
vdub804 said:
it would help alot if you shared the name of this update
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if you got the first one, install it, if you got a second one, don't. easy
what i did was uninstall all apps requiring su then uninstalled unrevoked and the restarted and shut off anything that didnt have to be running and updated...so far no problems short of having to reload a couple of widgets, i cant seem to get back to regular android launcher though
a friend of mine updated with unrevoked still installed and his phone made it through but it hung for about 20 min and i had to take the phone from him because he was ready to remove the battery, his sister had wifi running and after update it wouldnt start, my cousin turned off wifi before updating and his wifi seems fine...
Does anyone have a "bricked" phone? I'm curious as to whether it's a true brick or if recovery/bootloader can still be reached. As far as I can tell it's only rooted phones having these problems, I'm also wondering if people are pulling their batteries. Reports are saying that normal unrooted customers are saying their phones were "bricked", but I'm sure there's a lot of people that were rooted trying to get theirs replaced that aren't going to admit that they were rooted.
since someone in my inner-circle designated me as tech support i have a lot of people calling me, i just had a somewhat akward convo with a friend ending... root?? whats root, i dont even know what that **** is....*background* um dad..... yeah safe to say if you have an expensive phone and a competent kid with access and general knowledge of general electronics keep your phone away from them
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Does anyone have a "bricked" phone? I'm curious as to whether it's a true brick or if recovery/bootloader can still be reached. As far as I can tell it's only rooted phones having these problems, I'm also wondering if people are pulling their batteries. Reports are saying that normal unrooted customers are saying their phones were "bricked", but I'm sure there's a lot of people that were rooted trying to get theirs replaced that aren't going to admit that they were rooted.
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I have a normal, unrooted EVO 4G paperweight. Won't boot at all. Dead.
YUP same here, normal EVO, installed second update and BOOM, will not turn on, went to near sprint store and order new one at no cost, should be getting it tuesday or wed.
I just saw on android central that the Eris will be getting an update on July 16th. I just rooted not to long ago and I love it. Just wanted to know if it is possible for me to still get the OTA update now that I have rooted?
remember how there was a few people
who got that update a bout 2 weeks ago?
thats what this is. just the rest of them
are getting it.
once someone who gets it can pull the
url, then the devs will be able to put
it into their roms.
Ivans 1.2?
Ok, Thanks!!!
Is this just an update fixing all the garbage problems with the 2.1 OTA? Took 'em long enough. Good thing I rooted the day I got the OTA because it was terrible.
atpjoe said:
Is this just an update fixing all the garbage problems with the 2.1 OTA? Took 'em long enough. Good thing I rooted the day I got the OTA because it was terrible.
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can we use this to get root for the leakers ?
DS36 said:
can we use this to get root for the leakers ?
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for some odd reason I doubt it
Believe it (an OTA update) when you (or others) see it.
Hopefully I will have my new phone by the time this comes out. I simply had crazy issues with the Eris and am going to get a different phone.
I am going to assume that it will be the end of the month before everyone gets the OTA.
It'll probably a rolling update across the country since the last big update ordeal crashed a few servers. If you jump on Verizon's site after the rolling update is done you should be bale to update by downloading that way. One of the reasons the was also such a wait for the 2.1 update was there was a big jump from 1.5 to 2.1.
It'll be interesting to see what all happens with the update, and rooted phones.
Just installed without a hitch. Hope this does the job! Look for it in Service Station in your apps.
chuckpo said:
Just installed without a hitch. Hope this does the job! Look for it in Service Station in your apps.
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I've had the update for a few days now and have not experienced a single failure to wake. As far as I'm concerned the problem is fixed. Toshiba has done a tremendous job of resolving problems quickly, posting updates and keeping its user infromed. Well done Toshiba!
Impossible as it was only released today. Maybe you are looking at the prior 2 updates available... !
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Impossible as it was only released today. Maybe you are looking at the prior 2 updates available... !
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Nope, tis for sleep of death.
Well, my ever-present SOD has disappeared since the update - so far. I don't know that I would go so far as to call it fixed if I were Toshiba, though. On both forums.toshiba.com and thriveforums.org, a number of people are reporting that the SOD persists in spite of the update. In addition to that, people who had no random reboots are now experiencing them. So maybe this is a partial fix, but it doesn't seem like it was just one issue causing all the problems.
teh roxxorz said:
Nope, tis for sleep of death.
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If he has had the update for several days it's not the SOD fix update... So as I said before, impossible as it was only released today... Errr, now yesterday at this point... Less than 24 hours ago anyway...
Quick84 said:
If he has had the update for several days it's not the SOD fix update... So as I said before, impossible as it was only released today... Errr, now yesterday at this point... Less than 24 hours ago anyway...
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Oh yea, I misread. If it was several days, then yes, it was the previous OTA, not for sleepies of dooooooom.
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Impossible as it was only released today. Maybe you are looking at the prior 2 updates available... !
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Quick84 said:
If he has had the update for several days it's not the SOD fix update... So as I said before, impossible as it was only released today... Errr, now yesterday at this point... Less than 24 hours ago anyway...
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Actually...
...he's right that he's had it for a few days, and you're right that it was only released yesterday.
Toshiba did a test run of the update with a handful of users who first reported the issue over on their support forums. They wanted to run it through the paces with regular users before sending it out to the masses. That's the update he's referring to, not any older ones.
Toshiba asked that the testing be kept quiet. So, it's not surprising that most people would be confused about it.
Is there some form of manual install for said update? Here in Canada there's no updates listed in Service Center so I'm stuck with a semi-bricked device that needs to be rebooted any time I need to use it.
Seriously though, how does a company release a tablet with a bug like THIS!?
Squishie said:
Is there some form of manual install for said update? Here in Canada there's no updates listed in Service Center so I'm stuck with a semi-bricked device that needs to be rebooted any time I need to use it.
Seriously though, how does a company release a tablet with a bug like THIS!?
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The update has not been released in Canada. You can go to thriveforums.org and get whet wou need to root your device and then flash the 0032 update to your device.
dalepl said:
The update has not been released in Canada. You can go to thriveforums.org and get whet wou need to root your device and then flash the 0032 update to your device.
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I shall look into that, thanks.
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I shall look into that, thanks.
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Your welcome.
Confirmed. Motorola will update RAZR HD to Android 4.4 Kit Kat.
Look the official website
*Verizon device.
It was get upgrade on 19th November
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It was get upgrade on 19th November
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Do you have a source for this?
Any have any trouble keeping their Root? I'm still on 4.1.1 and looking to upgrade to KK. Phone kept failing to upgrade to 4.1.2 so i just disabled the update service.
Anyone got any OTA files yet? haven't found anything yet searching google.
I sorta wonder if I should upgrade. I actually reset all my Google apps back to the factory because the upgraded ones (a little while back) were using too much memory and too many wakelocks and this and that. So I'm wondering if I need an even smarter Google Now and whatever else is new. Right now, the phone is fast, the battery lasts forever... nothing is broken.
junkaholic said:
I sorta wonder if I should upgrade. I actually reset all my Google apps back to the factory because the upgraded ones (a little while back) were using too much memory and too many wakelocks and this and that. So I'm wondering if I need an even smarter Google Now and whatever else is new. Right now, the phone is fast, the battery lasts forever... nothing is broken.
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Ya know... my phone has not been itself for the past few weeks either. It gets really hot and the battery is not lasting at all lately. I'm on travel now and working in a crappy VZW coverage zone so I thought that was my problem..but I'm going to trying re-setting the google apps. Do you any feel for which one(s) might be the most likely culprits?
radon222 said:
Ya know... my phone has not been itself for the past few weeks either. It gets really hot and the battery is not lasting at all lately. I'm on travel now and working in a crappy VZW coverage zone so I thought that was my problem..but I'm going to trying re-setting the google apps. Do you any feel for which one(s) might be the most likely culprits?
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When my phone gets too hot I have to put 2G instead of 4 or 3G. a bad signal can eat your battery in a matter of second. Try to clean your active apps as much as you can.
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When my phone gets too hot I have to put 2G instead of 4 or 3G. a bad signal can eat your battery in a matter of second. Try to clean your active apps as much as you can.
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It had to be one of my apps running rampant. I had time over the holiday weekend and did a complete Factory data reset. Everything is much better now.:good:
radon222 said:
It had to be one of my apps running rampant. I had time over the holiday weekend and did a complete Factory data reset. Everything is much better now.:good:
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Which App was the one?
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Which App was the one?
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I really couldn't tell ya. If I had been able to isolate the app, I wouldn't have needed to resort to the full system wipe. I've got most of everything re-installed except for a few apps that really didn't use anymore. I'll pay attention as load a few more to see if the problem comes back and I can relate it to a specific app.
Will anyone try to unlock our bootloades or find an exploi on kitkat? I had to get a new RAZR and it came with 9.20.1xt926 so as of now I'm stuck locked and stock. Sure would be awesome of we got another chance with 4.4