Hey,
I'm currently on Floyo 1.01, and I know the latest version of that is 1.20
My question is, should I upgrade to Floyo 1.2, or am I better off with:
1) Another Froyo ROM?
2) Are there any stable Gingerbread ROMs I could try instead?
I know there's lots of positives and negatives of all sorts of ROMs, so to specify exactly what I'm looking for/not:
1) Stable. This is a must, it's my only phone and must work well.
2) Fast. I know the Hero's aging, but as fast as possible.
3) Ability to overclock preferred.
4) Home screens don't matter, I use Zeam.
5) Lock screen doesn't matter, I use WidgetLocker.
Thankyou in advance for any suggestions,
-Mcintyre94.
You might wanna try "[ROM]Elelinux-7.0.0-RC4-Hero-v1.7.1 (2011-04-01)", its great... quite stable.... and updated quite regularly.
Okay, thanks. I'll have a look at that one. Out of interest, when you say it updates regularly, does that mean it updates automatically or do I need to continually re-flash updates? Not that it would affect a decision much, just interested.
You manually update by re-flashing,Although there shouldnt be any need too as its pretty much complete
You might want to stay away from the Gingerbread ROMs for the time being. A few users are still having memory and graphics bugs. Those issues are being worked on, so that may all be fixed soon.
As far as Froyo ROMs go, I can guarantee that if you upgrade to Floyo 1.2.0 you will not be disappointed. Back when I was running Froyo that was my favorite ROM. Elelinux's Speedmachine also gets good reviews, but I haven't tried that one myself.
try cronos froyo 1.8.0.... is really fast
the best gingerbread is elelinux 1.7.1
I think the best and most stable ROM at the moment is Elelinux 6.2.0 Speedmachine v2. You have to give it a try
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I think the best and most stable ROM at the moment is Elelinux 6.2.0 Speedmachine v2. You have to give it a try
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it is closely matched with vr13 speedwise. now launcherpro has been recently fixed to be smooth on 2.3 it finally works well together with ele's 2.3 rom.
A long long time ago my flashacolism ended, when flashed latest Floyo + Flykernel12pre6 + Gingerbread theme. It just works. Checked also correct memory settings in LauncherPro and it is smooth&fast all the time.
Won't flash CM7 until stable release (not sure will it ever roll out for Hero)
''quite stable'' is not as far as ''stable'' ROM
From 6th of February I have used TastyGinger, superstable from day one and I am now addicted to low DPI setup, built in oc too, highly recommended!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943720
Can you guys tell me which froyo rom has best battery life?
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Can you guys tell me which froyo rom has best battery life?
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Well depends how you use your phone really, in standby GB is the best in general, But I would go for Cronos Froyo 1.8.0 For the best bat life. If you want Froyo
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Well depends how you use your phone really, in standby GB is the best in general, But I would go for Cronos Froyo 1.8.0 For the best bat life.
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Just out of curiosity how much standby life do you get from GB and which ROM? And how much from Cronos Froyo?
Yeah every phone seems to respond differently to each rom, mine seems to get best life out of Elelinux Froyo Roms and the latest GB roms
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Just out of curiosity how much standby life do you get from GB and which ROM? And how much from Cronos Froyo?
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Ehm standby on GB, well 1 to 3% a day with the stock battery on the CM nightly buld 35 | 2 to 3% an hour with Cronos froyo. Remeber that your rom was kinds nice, the Floyo 1.2.0 with the battery that is.
I am not a Froyo user anylonger, the battery goes way to fast on that one in general, I am a sense 2.1 user or GB, I like GB the most.
When I got home at 17.30 my battery was 50% and now it is almost 21.00 and it is still 50%
I am going to make a screen give me a few, not want to plug in my phone and reset the timer XD.
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When I got that hill down I was on IRC, MSN and I had music, browsed some sites and installed some apps ect ect
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Keep in mind that I removed some apps that always run, Like Talk, I used to remove the themechooser but Now I got the good Cyanbread and I love it, and voicedialer is gone, ehm what more.. Some android dev stuff, Spareparts ehm thats about it. I hate to much stuff on my phone, I dont use A2SD. so that may help to.
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Ehm standby on GB, well 1 to 3% a day with the stock battery on the CM nightly buld 35 | 2 to 3% an hour with Cronos froyo. Remeber that your rom was kinds nice, the Floyo 1.2.0 with the battery that is.
I am not a Froyo user anylonger, the battery goes way to fast on that one in general, I am a sense 2.1 user or GB, I like GB the most.
When I got home at 17.30 my battery was 50% and now it is almost 21.00 and it is still 50%
I am going to make a screen give me a few, not want to plug in my phone and reset the timer XD.
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When I got that hill down I was on IRC, MSN and I had music, browsed some sites and installed some apps ect ect
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Keep in mind that I removed some apps that always run, Like Talk, I used to remove the themechooser but Now I got the good Cyanbread and I love it, and voicedialer is gone, ehm what more.. Some android dev stuff, Spareparts ehm thats about it. I hate to much stuff on my phone, I dont use A2SD. so that may help to.
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hmm, I don't think you can test battery life over short periods of time such as hours. The battery meter is highly non-linear. Individual percentage really mean nothing as at times I can last hours without it dropping even 1% and then without use it may drop a few percentage in a few minutes....
The best way to test battery life is to charge it fully overnight - don't stop when it reaches 100% as it charges "over 100%". Then use it until you reach below 10% (or if you want until it totally dies ).
From Floyo 1.2.0, I had one week which I barely used the phone (wifi off the whole time, a few phone calls and some SMS). I lasted 7.5 days without recharging and reached I think something like 7% on the battery. So I guess the standby battery life on Floyo 1.2.0 is around 8-9 days.
If anyone has done similar testing with other ROMs, I'd be interested to hear there results.
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hmm, I don't think you can test battery life over short periods of time such as hours. The battery meter is highly non-linear. Individual percentage really mean nothing as at times I can last hours without it dropping even 1% and then without use it may drop a few percentage in a few minutes....
The best way to test battery life is to charge it fully overnight - don't stop when it reaches 100% as it charges "over 100%". Then use it until you reach below 10% (or if you want until it totally dies ).
From Floyo 1.2.0, I had one week which I barely used the phone (wifi off the whole time, a few phone calls and some SMS). I lasted 7.5 days without recharging and reached I think something like 7% on the battery. So I guess the standby battery life on Floyo 1.2.0 is around 8-9 days.
If anyone has done similar testing with other ROMs, I'd be interested to hear there results.
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Lets change the topic name, battery thoughts XD or something. Yea and I know all that but that what I said was of some old GB rom I ran a long time ago when I tested it all. Then I would last a week easely on standby when I went to the USA. Had nothing to do with my phone their anyway.
Way to expensive.
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From Floyo 1.2.0, I had one week which I barely used the phone (wifi off the whole time, a few phone calls and some SMS). I lasted 7.5 days without recharging and reached I think something like 7% on the battery. So I guess the standby battery life on Floyo 1.2.0 is around 8-9 days.
If anyone has done similar testing with other ROMs, I'd be interested to hear there results.
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7-9 days? what kind of battery you got? some nuclear powerplant builtin?
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7-9 days? what kind of battery you got? some nuclear powerplant builtin?
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uuh. i'd like to have one too
Thanks for all your responses guys, I think I'll be trying out the Gingerbread Roms. If anyone gets a nuclear battery, I could do with one too - it's one of the annoyances of having a smartphone.
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I am using ava z3 and caulkins modded(uv and sdfix) HTC 15 kernel.
I only get about 11-12 hours of battery life with moderate to light usage (20 mins of phone, 25 or so texts and maybe 25 minutes of total web browsing)
I see all these posts of people having battery life lasting 20+ hours...
I have setcpu drop my clock when screen is off, random advanced task killer taps, autosync off, gps off, Bluetooth off, and only use 3g all day. Anyone have any combos that I could try or possibly some tips to get my bat life higher?
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MIUI + BCblend. I'm sitting at 36 hours and still have 47% on my battery.
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MIUI + BCblend. I'm sitting at 36 hours and still have 47% on my battery.
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What's your display on time?
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What's your display on time?
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No clue, MIUI doesn't give the awake vs. uptime like a sense rom does. It was with moderate use, maybe 30-40 texts, a bit of browsing, maybe 30 minutes of mini squadron and a few short phone calls.
Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5 with netarchy-4.3.2-cfs-nosbc-havs-more has done wonders for my evo. I use SetCPU and set the govenor to smartass, have one profile for screen off (384max, 128min smartass). I can get about 7 hours of uptime(20 hours of total up time= that averages to 21 minutes of use every hour...) with 1.5 hours of that being phone calls, about 50 texts a day, checking 3 e-mail accounts (gmail's push) and reading my hundreds of RSS feeds with NewsRob.
The only other time i got similar results was with Warm 2.2 RLS4, HTC kernel #17, and some very aggressive SetCPU profiles. and similar usage.
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No clue, MIUI doesn't give the awake vs. uptime like a sense rom does. It was with moderate use, maybe 30-40 texts, a bit of browsing, maybe 30 minutes of mini squadron and a few short phone calls.
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well if you look at the power usage you can click display and it'll show how long your display was on.
what brightness do you set yours at and do you use a stock battery
i have a 003 evo and i find myns rls4 & netarchy 4.2.2 less havs/no sbc the best in battery life & speed.
where do u check this 003 thing? and i have miui 1/21 zendroid kernel about 15 hours so far at 72% wifi on all day 50-60 texts and probably an hour of fb hahaha
To check what hardware go to settings-about phone-hardware info
Also, is anyone using aftermarket batteries or stock batteries for these impressive battery lives?
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To check what hardware go to settings-about phone-hardware info
Also, is anyone using aftermarket batteries or stock batteries for these impressive battery lives?
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im feeling pretty stupid right now haha i cant see it. Im running miui rom and i go to about phone>more info but i dont see it
Ahh in ava z3 its similar to stock where settings-about phone has software/hardware infos... I wish I could tell you how to find out because I have been getting the feeling the way hardware reacts to Rom and kernels is a big deal. My buddy has hw:004 running same Rom and kernel and gets about double the battery life
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Ok so ive been changing different kernels just to see if i can get different results. Now im using KingKlicks #12 w/ myns rls5. I use my phone alot & am just looking for SOMETHING that will help my battery life.
So the other day i was in this super retardly long useless meeting. Less than 10 texts, no internet, no apps no nothing. 4g, GPS, Wifi & bluetooth all off. Granted that isnt my regular useage (I really use my phone) but this is the best battery life i could get. (SetCpu on w/ a helluva lotta profiles)
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Whaddya think? What other kernels can use that are made for heavy usage? What else can i tweak....or am i just doomed to carrying a charger everywhere i go??
+1 for a netarchy 4.3.x kernel:
I'm on the original red battery
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Ahh in ava z3 its similar to stock where settings-about phone has software/hardware infos... I wish I could tell you how to find out because I have been getting the feeling the way hardware reacts to Rom and kernels is a big deal. My buddy has hw:004 running same Rom and kernel and gets about double the battery life
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I've been thinking the same thing I've got a day 1 evo with hardware :v002 and some of the stock kernels worked better im currently trying the modded HTC #15 but battery life is not great with regular use
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+1 for a netarchy 4.3.x kernel:
I'm on the original red battery
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3 days??? wait wait...either thats photoshop or you've got a different phone than me!!! In any event im flashing netarchy as soon as i finish typing this!!!
Do you use your phone? Like heavy useage? Or is that 3 days with absolute minamal useage?? 4g, wifi, gps & everything else off??
The question is, what is the definition of best battery life... How long the battery will last with the phone doing nothing? If so, I can get a good 4-5 days using the setup in my sig with just a minimum of texts, calls, and emails, while on wifi.
However, actual practical usage, including 3g, 4g, web, text, calls, etc. Results in a good 1-2 days of battery life. I think once a user has all the bugs (rogue apps that are causing wakelock issues) worked out, that user should focus on optimizing the system for best results for the way THEY use THEIR phone, not the way someone else uses theirs.
^^Agreed i am trying to find the best fit for the way "I" use it however suggestions are welcome. BTW you get 4-5 days 'cause you've got the extended batt. I wanna squeeze every last drop of juice out of my stock battery!! If you can help me there then by all means...please do!!!
Edit: side bar i just flashed netarchy's 4.3.2 cfs-nosbc-havs-more-universal and everythings fine but when i plug my charger in AC or USB it throws my phone into a boot loop....Any ideas?? Btw yes i am gonna find the netarchy thread and ask in there as well.
What's the best one for Myns Rls 5 ?
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The question is, what is the definition of best battery life... How long the battery will last with the phone doing nothing? If so, I can get a good 4-5 days using the setup in my sig with just a minimum of texts, calls, and emails, while on wifi.
However, actual practical usage, including 3g, 4g, web, text, calls, etc. Results in a good 1-2 days of battery life. I think once a user has all the bugs (rogue apps that are causing wakelock issues) worked out, that user should focus on optimizing the system for best results for the way THEY use THEIR phone, not the way someone else uses theirs.
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What's the best way to find the wake lock issues, are you referring to maps, voice, or other random apps running in the background? If so what is the best way to keep these apps but put an end to the wakelock issue.
I am still running ava z3 but I flashed the netarchy 4.3.2 cfs-nosbc-havs-more this morning, downgraded my pri and nv because netarchy said to for battery issues, gave it a full charge from 0, and my battery was garbage... 5-6 hours with a moderate use. Calks modded htc 15 w/ uv and sdfix worked way better, but still can't find these magic 20 hour battery lives that I am dying for.
Reflashed the new pri, nv, and Calks modded 15 and my hunt continues, about to give myns a whirl despite liking ava z3 a lot.
How simple is myns, bloatware gone, fairly simplistic, pretty snappy and lag free? Difference between rl 4 and rl 5?
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Use the battery history function in Spareparts to see what's causing wakelock. As for ways of dealing with it, that's up to the developer.
I don't have too many apps on my phone, just the necessities. Of the main apps I use, k9 and handcent both had issues.
With k9, any time I'd receive an email (using imap), the phone would stay wake locked for 60 seconds. This may not seem like a lot, but after getting many messages throughout the day, that could add up to an hour or more. I experienced this both with fresh 3.5.0.1 and evio2 1.75. When Evio2 1.7.7 came out, I was hesitant to switch - I'm not one that flashes roms every other day just for the hell of it. I already had the phone set up and configured. Decided to give it one more shot, I installed 1.7.7 from scratch and started reinstalling apps.
Through out the process, I was very careful to monitor wakelock state. For what ever reason, k9 was no longer causing wake lock. Something in 1.7.7 changed. It wasn't kernel related because I've tried way too many kernels with similar results. So now, the only wake lock is when the program actually receives an email. Usually 1-3 seconds per email received.
Now with handcent, there is a known issue if the popup function is enabled. Anytime a text is received, with popups enabled, the phone enters a wakelock state until that text is acknowledged. This occurs even if the only popup task is to display the text, and NOT turn the screen on, or flash the led. The fix? Disable popups in handcent. I've posted on their forums, but haven't gotten any acknowledgment. I'll continue to use the program, but without this functionality.
For other programs, best bet it to try to narrow down the conditions causing wakelock and either work around them, or work with the author to try to resolve.
Any as for stand by time, I'm sure even with a standard battery, 4 days is possible if the phone is idling the whole time with data turned off, and minimal or no other usage.
As for kernels, there are other factors at play besides the kernel itself. These include the governor in use and its parameters. Two otherwise identical phones with the same kernel and governors, but different governor parameters will result in different battery life.
In the end, I chose to stick with the conservative governor.
These are the governor parameters I changed in the init.d folder
Filename: 01cpufreq_screenstate_scaling
Code:
MAX_CPU_SPEED_VDD="921600"
MIN_CPU_SPEED_VDD="245000"
#MIN_CPU_SPEED_VDD="384000" DEFAULT
#MAX_CPU_SPEED_VDD="921600" DEFAULT
CONSERVATIVE_SAMPLING_RATE="50000"
CONSERVATIVE_UP_THRESHOLD="80"
CONSERVATIVE_DOWN_THRESHOLD="55"
CONSERVATIVE_FREQ_STEP="10"
#CONSERVATIVE_UP_THRESHOLD="65" DEFAULT
#CONSERVATIVE_DOWN_THRESHOLD="35" DEFAULT
#CONSERVATIVE_FREQ_STEP="15" DEFAULT
These settings were not arrived at trivially, but were changed slightly one at a time, then tested by using the phone. I was looking for decent response/user experience. I was also trying to get the phone to utilize a larger range of cpu speeds than originally programmed into the ROM/kernel. Google the different parameters to understand what they're referring to.
Edit: I'm also using the -100mV undervolt script as opposed to -50mV that the rom originally comes with.
Hi all,
I absolutely need a ROM to survive about 16 hours, whit medium level of usage: 2 or 3 short calls, 3g always on, intensive gmail usage, Twitter and browser often open... and maybe some light game during a flight...
Witch ROM do you suggest?
Can I survive?
Thanks!
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Sounds like what you need is an extended/extra battery.
I avg ~16-18 hours per day with usage similar to yours BUT the places I spend the most time (work and home) I'm connected to WIFI. When you say 3G always on, you mean you'll never be on wifi or just never changing the setting to use 2G? I NEVER turn my 3G off. I'm using Cyanogenmod7 BTW (nightly #21). Nightly build #13 had the best battery life of all the Roms I've run so far....
I can't use WiFi... maybe I could switch to 2g only, when I don't really need 3g... cm7 was horrible about battery live starting from the 2.3.3 version, but I haven't tried last nightly build...
also MIUI seems to be good, what do you think?
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for me, the best in this...... SuperAOSP...
i never get more than 6-8 hours of battery, dunno how some of you are claiming 16 hours. maybe on standby
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i never get more than 6-8 hours of battery, dunno how some of you are claiming 16 hours. maybe on standby
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Hit 50% right at the 12 hour mark. I routinely get 16 hours. I check fb, twitter, send texts, browse forums and talk. Hopping on wifi def helps. I never get any less than 12 hours, even with CONSTANT use
When you don't you the phone, Use a widget to turn off data connection. Also GPS. Buy an extended battery that is the same size of the n1. Cm7 seems to be pretty good for me right now. Rc2 version not night lies.
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Give MIUI a chance. Either from RoDrIgUeZsTyLe or the vanilla miui here: http://miui-dev.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?15-Google-Nexus-One
Personally, battery is not the only reason I've stuck with miui for a couple of months now. Overall I find it very stable and other features like the nice notification bar etc. keep me from moving to other roms. The only thing I hate about miui is the whole iphone like default launcher but that is easily fixed by using launcherpro or adw
I can easily get 16 hours out of MIUI. Usually at the end of day I have around 25% to 35% left. I am running version 1.3.11 at this time. Soon to be upgrading to 1.3.18 as soon as the language pack comes out!
Meh, ok on the stock, rooted 2.3.3 ROM and im getting amazing speeds.
I think it would be easier to spend 20 bucks to get an extra battery than to flash a whole new rom though.
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Meh, ok on the stock, rooted 2.3.3 ROM and im getting amazing speeds.
I think it would be easier to spend 20 bucks to get an extra battery than to flash a whole new rom though.
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I got an extra battery from HTC because my other one didn't seem to last very long. They sent it to me for free since the phone was still under warranty. Changing batteries isn't such a big deal, but managing to charge the two of them is kind of a balancing act. Charge one at night, then swap them in the morning and charge the other one in the morning. use it during the day swap in the evening and start over again. lol. Personally I'd rather find a ROM and excellent use of SetCPU and power manager to get the most battery life out of one battery.
I'm now using nightly builds of cm7 with redstars latest kernel and I finally have a good combo, good battery life and no problems, though I haven't tried without dewonkficator.
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I'm testing MIUI right now and it seems very well: today i had medium/low usage and I'm on 14 hours and still 26% left. Tomorrow I'll test more intensive but it seems that Miui is the best choice!
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Hit 50% right at the 12 hour mark. I routinely get 16 hours. I check fb, twitter, send texts, browse forums and talk. Hopping on wifi def helps. I never get any less than 12 hours, even with CONSTANT use
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this sounds insane to me...
on that same image click on "display"... how long did it was active??
I cannot have it last any longer then 3 and half an hour of active display (that value can be seen by clicking on "display"...)
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this sounds insane to me...
on that same image click on "display"... how long did it was active??
I cannot have it last any longer then 3 and half an hour of active display (that value can be seen by clicking on "display"...)
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On that day, I was at 2 hr & 17 mins of 'active' display at the time. I avg about 2 1/2 hours of "screen on" time each day.
I too will say I get a constant 12hours to 50% mark on a regular day. MIUI and CM7 latest.
Although, I saw Wildmonk came back to the scene and am testing his latest cm7 kernel mod on #25, and my goodness. Yesterday seemed average. But today, Going 9 hours unplugged and only went down 20%. Hoping this isn't a fluke. Will need another day or 2 to truly tell.
If anyone else is wondering, try wildmonk. I'd like to know what other's find.
( control your background syncs! They are battery hungry by default sometimes)
I just hit 15 hours use with 4 hours and 35 minutes display-on time. But 8 hours of that was me sleeping. And this all was on WiFi which makes an enormous difference.
Typically I get 2.5 hours of display time a day.
Running cyan 6.1.
I used to have a 16 - 20 hours per day using MM CM7 ROM (with WildMonks Kernel),
But sadly there is one problem with the ROM (Facebook update) and MM left us for another phone
Right now, I'm gonna try SuperAOSP and PureGoogleMod to test the battery life
Here's my batt info
I've been messing around with fitsnugly's CM7 build and different kernels. I took this one just some hours ago using latest redstar OC 1152 kernel; I never run it that high on normal usage, though. More than 24h's of battery . It's pretty good, ~ 1% or less drain in idle and overall good when watching videos, etc. I just created this account to share the info, I mostly just read and browse (I can't post links yet ), so the img address is imgur.com/nTfqz
I've been using it for 2 days and so far I have nothing but good things to say about it. The battery life so far has been top notch. My phone has currently been off the charger for 15 hours and 2 minutes, and I still have 41% battery left. It's very responsive. Everything works on my HW003 Evo. The one problem I have discovered so far is that when I record a video, once I'm done it force closes the video app. But the good thing is that the recorded video is saved intact and I can re-open my camcorder app immediately if I want to record another video. So it's really not a big issue. Other than that everything else sems to be working very smoothly. I have Go Launcher EX running on top of it and everything is super-fast. So far I'm really loving this leaked ROM. What about you guys(and girls)???
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I've been using it for 2 days and so far I have nothing but good things to say about it. The battery life so far has been top notch. My phone has currently been off the charger for 15 hours and 2 minutes, and I still have 41% battery left. It's very responsive. Everything works on my HW003 Evo. The one problem I have discovered so far is that when I record a video, once I'm done it force closes the video app. But the good thing is that the recorded video is saved intact and I can re-open my camcorder app immediately if I want to record another video. So it's really not a big issue. Other than that everything else sems to be working very smoothly. I have Go Launcher EX running on top of it and everything is super-fast. So far I'm really loving this leaked ROM. What about you guys(and girls)???
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how much of that is ACTUAL use ? and not sitting on a desk ?
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how much of that is ACTUAL use ? and not sitting on a desk ?
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Well, I took it off the charger just after midnight last night, and I woke up at 7am. So 7 of those hours it was resting. But since then I've been to the gym and listened to music the whole time, sent a few texts, received about 30-40 texts from twitter, browsed the web for some of the links, viewed some android central youtube videos, updated some apps in the Market, made 2 phone calls, etc.. The point is with my last ROM and kernel, normally I'd be at about 15% battery by now.. There seems to be a noticeable improvement. But I posted this thread because I'm wondering if it's my imagination or if anyone else is having similar experiences.
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Sure your using gingerbread? That battery icon making me suspicious. 0_o
Asop ROMs do typically use less battery than sense ROMs
LOL! Horrible battery life considering you haven't made one call.
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LOL! Horrible battery life considering you haven't made one call.
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He said he made 2....
Pretty decent
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Where's a link for it? I wanna try this out and put in my .02!
Fyi my g1 only lasted 4-6 hours on a charge using stock battery, I turned off the radio and let it sit in my sock drawer it stayed on in stand by for nearly a week on that same battery.
These threads bragging about battery life are just BS, im sure if I want all day not using my evo I'd also get 16+ hours on a stock. I typically get a good 14-16 hours using my 3000 mAh battery and being constantly on my phone.
I noticed a lump in my battery last night (SBC maybe?) And now im back on the stock battery, this is my 3rd time today its back on the charger, my point? None but these threads don't mean a thing unless there's any really useful information to significantly extend the battery, especially to us users who do use our phones and not just let them sit idol all day.
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Fyi my g1 only lasted 4-6 hours on a charge using stock battery, I turned off the radio and let it sit in my sock drawer it stayed on in stand by for nearly a week on that same battery.
These threads bragging about battery life are just BS, im sure if I want all day not using my evo I'd also get 16+ hours on a stock. I typically get a good 14-16 hours using my 3000 mAh battery and being constantly on my phone.
I noticed a lump in my battery last night (SBC maybe?) And now im back on the stock battery, this is my 3rd time today its back on the charger, my point? None but these threads don't mean a thing unless there's any really useful information to significantly extend the battery, especially to us users who do use our phones and not just let them sit idol all day.
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If anyone says a phone can last more than 4-5 hours, then using a phone to them is turning the screen on to check the time, then quickly turning it off.
Anyways link? I wanna use Sense with Gingerbread.
He is obviously using his phone because 40 percent of it is the display
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If anyone says a phone can last more than 4-5 hours, then using a phone to them is turning the screen on to check the time, then quickly turning it off.
Anyways link? I wanna use Sense with Gingerbread.
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Last I checked there's a few in the development forum, but they are ports and a work in progress and have a lot of things broken. As son as there is a stable gingersense im all over that.
I loaded the leaked 2.3.3/sense 1.0 that tmartin put together. It is 100% functional for me. Some people were having issues with the screen staying at 100% brightness, and the camera acting strange. I think that may have been a variety of factors, wipe quality, hardware number, and screen type.
The rom was flawless for me. I have a 3500 battery and used my phone like a crackhead for 15.5 hours before the battery died. I was web surfing most of the time, and reading the leak thread that hit over a 1000 posts in a day before the op locked it up.
I am now using the misfit gingersense rom, and it is working 100% for me, apart from some very minor black on black text when word suggestions pop up using swype.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036930
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
I flashed the tmartin 2.3.3 sense leak as well. I liked it for the most part...but it wasn't anything really special...some menu changes and it did have the nice fast boot feature. Sense was still a little sluggish when scrolling through home screens. I flashed back to cm7....what I do miss is the stable 4g that I do not get with cm7 final.
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If anyone says a phone can last more than 4-5 hours, then using a phone to them is turning the screen on to check the time, then quickly turning it off.
Anyways link? I wanna use Sense with Gingerbread.
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Wtf are you talking about!?
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
This post was not just about battery life. That was just one aspect of it. I posted it to get feedback from others who are also running the ROM put together by TMartin from the leak. I still don't get why people get so funny acting when it comes to others talking about how long their battery lasts. If you don't like it or don't care to hear about it then move on, as it may not be for you. But others may be interested to see if it improves their battery life. Remember, every post here isn't catered just for you. The world is bigger than just you. Anyway, I use my phone quite regularly, whether it be browsing the web, viewing video, texting, listening to music, etc.
I also forgot to mention that I'm using the stock battery.
For those who asked where they can find the download, here ya go. It's linked in the first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035438
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I noticed a lump in my battery last night (SBC maybe?)
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Dude, your battery might have cancer. You should do a battery self-exam at least once every month. It's best that you do it in the shower so that the battery can hang low. Make sure you roll your battery through your fingers to check for any abnormal growth or lump.
If you feel a lump or that the shape of your battery has changed at all, don't hesitate to see your doctor. Remember, catching battery cancer in the earliest stages gives you a much better chance at survival!
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Dude, your battery might have cancer. You should do a battery self-exam at least once every month. It's best that you do it in the shower so that the battery can hang low. Make sure you roll your battery through your fingers to check for any abnormal growth or lump.
If you feel a lump or that the shape of your battery has changed at all, don't hesitate to see your doctor. Remember, catching battery cancer in the earliest stages gives you a much better chance at survival!
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I layed on a flat surface and noticed it rocked a little bit, so yea it has a slight deformity. Dr. Abu ghraib can have a look at it tomorrow.
I flashed it and been running it for a few hours now. Its alright, nothing ground breaking or impressive. Im kinda disappointed about no vertical battery or the on/tv off effect like the asop roms have. I thought I was gonna see that in gingersense. No big deal though, its same ol sense on gingerbread. I did notice some improvements in the browser. Fair enough, its cool, but still a little buggy.
Screen dimming works for me BTW, on my 0003.
Tomorrow will be the real test as far as the battery goes.
What bugs have you noticed?
Hello, I am a happy owner of the DHD.
It 'a great phone, but as you know, the only drawback is battery life.
I've tried several (few) ROM so far, and one with which I am slightly better is the RCMIX.
Now with this post does not go into details about what set, how to optimize (Sync off, energy saving displays, etc. ...) but I ask all your experience based on the ROM that you have installed:
1 - how to use the terminal?
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
3 - What kind of ROM you use?
Thanks to all. I think it will be useful for someone like me, prefer a long battery life rather than three thousand graphicals functions
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1 - how to use the terminal?
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what !?!? which terminal do u mean ?
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2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
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With normal usage (some SMS, about 30 minutes surfing and emailing during the day, 30 minutes music listening and wifi turned on all day) my Phone lives mostly a full working day. When i come home from work (mostly 8 to 9 hours) i still have 20 % left...
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I'm using RCmix3D Runny 1.3 with Revolution Theme . My phone is overclocked with setCPU to 1,45GHz and the Batterylife is optimized with a good profile set from setCPU (downclocking when display is off...and so on...)
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Sorry... it mean: phone.... smartphone
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sorry but.. batterylife is an app?
Battery life... it's been quite heavily documented on the DHD fora, but here we go:
1500mah is not enough for a huge screen, especially if you want to use the phone's capabilities. The versatility of this phone means you'll want to be browsing, doing emails, playing processor heavy games etc. Each to his own
So, limit the stuff you sync (mail/facebook, news, weather), or at least reduce the frequency. These things cause "partial wake locks", which stop the phone falling into a deep sleep, after which battery consumption is minimal. Watch out for wifi settings too. Search for BetterBatteryStats (by chamonix) on the Android Apps section of the xda forum for much more detail, and tips.
You should be able to get to the end of the day with a good ROM (eg Leedroid/Revolution - they are very popular, but the threads are immense, which makes looking for information difficult). These ROMs have over/underclocking built in (governors), and you can also undervolt (theoretically reduces consumption too).
Limit transitions, be reasonable with screen brightness etc.
And if all else fails, and you use the phone intensively and can't get to the end of the day, you could invest in a power pack (search Amazon for the New Trent 5000mah power pack, which costs less than €30)
my DHD lasts around 4 hrs continuous screen on, much longer screen off. IMO, LM based roms have the best battery life.
But you could always get cheap $3 batteries for the Desire HD off ebay.
Battery life on my DHD was very bad before i rooted it. I am now running RCMix3D Runny V1.3 and my battery has lasted over 30 hours with alot of use.
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sorry but.. batterylife is an app?
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lol no....Battery life means how long the battery lasts... thats all. No app.
whistle81 said:
Battery life on my DHD was very bad before i rooted it. I am now running RCMix3D Runny V1.3 and my battery has lasted over 30 hours with alot of use.
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indeed! I can not believe it!... with a lot of use....????!!!!!!!
Your kernel? Radio? Ril?
with m0rbus called "normal usage" my phone lasts around 48h. using my rom and lordmod 7.2 cfs and my personal governor/undervolt settings.
edit: though this result is not really specific to MY miui rom. one should be able to achieve these results with that kernel and settings on every aosp rom.
edit2: with "my normal usage" it last around 24-30h. this includes gameing, emailing, testing settings for developing my rom, rebooting etc.
I've used alot of roms most of the sense ones seem to use about the same battery life better than stock (they get me through work stock needed charged at lunch) but for a week now I've been using miui I've been home about an hour played about 15 min of angry birds, watched a few min on youtube and surfed on xda for a bit and I just over 40% i think that's pretty good going.
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cubases said:
Hello, I am a happy owner of the DHD.
It 'a great phone, but as you know, the only drawback is battery life.
I've tried several (few) ROM so far, and one with which I am slightly better is the RCMIX.
Now with this post does not go into details about what set, how to optimize (Sync off, energy saving displays, etc. ...) but I ask all your experience based on the ROM that you have installed:
1 - how to use the terminal?
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
3 - What kind of ROM you use?
Thanks to all. I think it will be useful for someone like me, prefer a long battery life rather than three thousand graphicals functions
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Hi, I upgrade the ROM from the group Android Revolution, and my internet I put on 2G and work with WI-FI, GPS and SYNC ON. My battery life is working about 1,5 day.
Before I upgrade I use a Super-Wire patch from ARHD, I think this patch get this performace.
PS.: Sorry My English. I´m Brazilian.
I dunno guys.. I think all that is your subjective feeling and that ROM has no effect whatsoever on battery. Maybe small, but unnoticable. You never do things exactly the same or have battery charged exactly the same. In order to prove ROM has effect on battery usage you would have to make lab tests, i.e. make conditions the same. Moreover, if you look at the statistics of battery usage, it is clear that the most battery goes on SCREEN. And then GPS. Everything else is just a couple of %. All the talk of turning off wifi/3G to conserve power is simply not true. Just look at the statistics! Wifi takes like 2-3% of the power used, tops! The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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exactly....
You could always try to lower auto brightness levels by way of a flashable patch. I found that after doing this the screen was only using between 30-40% of the battery. Even so, it is the screen that always uses the majority of the battery. All the tips regarding decreasing battery by switching off syncing, wifi, widgets, etc are in my opinion a bit misleading. If you have a good radio and corresponding RIL then this will vastly reduce battery consumption whilst still being able to sync emails, widgets, etc with the wifi on. I recommend Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and it's matching HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM. I'm currently on Orange in the UK and this combo works best for me across several different ROMs.
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You could always try to lower auto brightness levels by way of a flashable patch.
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where could I found it?
If you have a good radio and corresponding RIL then this will vastly reduce battery consumption whilst still being able to sync emails, widgets, etc with the wifi on. I recommend Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and it's matching HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM. I'm currently on Orange in the UK and this combo works best for me across several different ROMs.
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I have the same your radio/ril.
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where could I found it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034743
Also, dependant on what ROM you're using you might find it within the development section post relating to your ROM. I'm using Virtuous Unity 2.37 and within the post there's a flashable lower auto brightness patch.
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I dunno guys.. I think all that is your subjective feeling and that ROM has no effect whatsoever on battery. Maybe small, but unnoticable. You never do things exactly the same or have battery charged exactly the same. In order to prove ROM has effect on battery usage you would have to make lab tests, i.e. make conditions the same. Moreover, if you look at the statistics of battery usage, it is clear that the most battery goes on SCREEN. And then GPS. Everything else is just a couple of %. All the talk of turning off wifi/3G to conserve power is simply not true. Just look at the statistics! Wifi takes like 2-3% of the power used, tops! The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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Yes and no.
If you are using the device, you can limit transitions, underclock the processor (via a custom ROM), flash a patch to modify the brightness as mentioned below. That definitely will help reduce consumption while in use.
However, and this is not collected in the Battery Usage option in Settings, Partial Wakelocks are the main contributor to battery consumption. When the phone is inactive, it should be asleep as much as possible - applications like Phone, Mail, Latitude, alarms etc wake it up for either scheduled or ad-hoc events. If you install BetterBatteryStats you will see which processes are keeping your phone awake & hence in a higher state of battery consumption.
Oh, do NOT buy cheap ebay batteries. They lie about their capacity. The only battery which offers more capacity than the OEM one, is Mugen (search in the Accessories forum), it's 1500mah. That extra power could make the difference in making it to the end of the day, but it costs about $45 I think.
You think this behaviour is normal?
Keep in mind that my DHD are this morning on the deck, and only hotspot is active (with whom I connect from the notebook) and sync only 2 emails to connect every 15 minutes each
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The display is set:
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Probably do you think may be due to the fact that until now has always been on the deck in charge?
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...Partial Wakelocks are the main contributor to battery consumption. When the phone is inactive, it should be asleep as much as possible - applications like Phone, Mail, Latitude, alarms etc wake it up for either scheduled or ad-hoc events.
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If I charge the phone before going to sleep to 100% and leave it on, in the morning the battery it at like 60-70% which IMHO is really too much. I have sync set to between 1-2 hour intervals depending on service, but over night I set phone data to OFF so it shouldn't matter, should it? Then why such consumption? I understand it over the day when I use it, but at night the display is off, data is off so what could cause this? It can't be syncing since the data is off....
OK so i installed almost every ROM on there and here is what i found.
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:good: CleanGB ---- Takes the crown, super fast battery charge in less then 45minutes the battery is full. Over a period of 8 hours in stand by(as i sleep) the battery did not drop at all.
CM9 ---- Took over 2.5 hours to charge the battery, in 8 hours it dropped 12% battery life.
CM7 --- Charged in 1.7 hours and dropped 17% battery in 8 hours.
The rest were terrible, I would not even bother.
All configuration were the same. Everything off (wifi, gps, etc)
After all i installed CleanGB again at the end. And guess what in the past 8 hours battery did not at all in standby. My phone last 3 days on the same battery charge again, with normal to moderate use.
This was the same battery same settings.
Let me know if you guys found something else.
GUI experience:
CleanGB is cool and simple, however i wish they would upgrade to Android 4
CM9 has an really cool interface but i can not tolerate the battery drain issue.
CM7 is the worst of the two, not so great GUI and bad battery life.
If you still think im crazy install CleanGB and see for yourself. CM9 just needs to focus on the battery drain.
CleanGB is more focused on the phone working as it should and they did that really well. :good:
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OK so i installed almost every ROM on there and here is what i found.
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:good: CleanGB ---- Takes the crown, super fast battery charge in less then 45minutes the battery is full. Over a period of 8 hours in stand by(as i sleep) the battery did not drop at all.
CM9 ---- Took over 2.5 hours to charge the battery, in 8 hours it dropped 12% battery life.
CM7 --- Charged in 1.7 hours and dropped 17% battery in 8 hours.
The rest were terrible, I would not even bother.
All configuration were the same. Everything off (wifi, gps, etc)
After all i installed CleanGB again at the end. And guess what in the past 8 hours battery did not at all in standby. My phone last 3 days on the same battery charge again, with normal to moderate use.
This was the same battery same settings.
Let me know if you guys found something else.
GUI experience:
CleanGB is cool and simple, however i wish they would upgrade to Android 4
CM9 has an really cool interface but i can not tolerate the battery drain issue.
CM7 is the worst of the two, not so great GUI and bad battery life.
If you still think im crazy install CleanGB and see for yourself. CM9 just needs to focus on the battery drain.
CleanGB is more focused on the phone working as it should and they did that really well. :good:
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CM10 isn't horrible, I think it's a step above CM9 honestly, Mine charges over night so i don't know how much it would drain. during a day of moderate use (texting, reading XDA and what not) I'm generally about 65% or so (If not higher)
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CM10 isn't horrible, I think it's a step above CM9 honestly, Mine charges over night so i don't know how much it would drain. during a day of moderate use (texting, reading XDA and what not) I'm generally about 65% or so (If not higher)
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I will try CM10, i didt think it was available for the epic. I do like the CM9 look but i hate the batter if CM10 is better then ill be happy.
Thank you. I will report findings.
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Let me know if you guys found something else.
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The People's ROM. It's as good as CleanGB (ran that for several months) and is based off the latest official release (FC09).
My one personal cheat is to use the CleanGB kernel with TPR, so that may be why I get fantastic battery life.
CleanGB is cool and simple, however i wish they would upgrade to Android 4
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Never going to happen. CleanGB (and TPR) are both stock TouchWiz based ROMs and it's not too likely that Sprint will offer an ICS update for the Epic.
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ROFL!!! :good:
As to the topic, I have seen it posted by a massive number of users, that CM7 had much better battery life than CM9.
In fact, the number one reason I saw posted as to why people went back to CM7, after checking out CM9, was battery life.
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ROFL!!! :good:
As to the topic, I have seen it posted by a massive number of users, that CM7 had much better battery life than CM9.
In fact, the number one reason I saw posted as to why people went back to CM7, after checking out CM9, was battery life.
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This 100%
I' am on Cut & Paste Rom FC09 and this has given be best battery life as of today. I had clean GB earlier (sometime back) after which i tried all the other Roms (AOKP - ICS, MIUI - ICS, RandomRom 5.1) and then decided to try C&P and man this rocks !
I have got a battery life of 2 days with a talk time (voice call) of 4 hours and thats the best i have seen till now among all of the Roms on my phone
legendary.mtd + gps fix is just as good as cleanGB plus it has the 15 toggle mod
try AOKP, people says it has better bettery life than CM9, so you can keep the "cool interface" while saving battery lol. Me myself never bother with battery as long as it last more than 1 hours. Always carrying one of those portable charger, If the battery is low then charge it haha.
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try AOKP, people says it has better bettery life than CM9, so you can keep the "cool interface" while saving battery lol. Me myself never bother with battery as long as it last more than 1 hours. Always carrying one of those portable charger, If the battery is low then charge it haha.
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+1 for aokp...with the nexus modem. Typical 3 hours screen on time, over 18 hours on. Time with out signal under 4% every day. Used to be around 15% with epic modem under same conditions. Using 1800 touch battery.
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+1 for aokp...with the nexus modem. Typical 3 hours screen on time, over 18 hours on. Time with out signal under 4% every day. Used to be around 15% with epic modem under same conditions. Using 1800 touch battery.
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Did you get gps working with the nexus modem on aokp?
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The rest are horrible..? Thats not very nice, if your looking for a battery saving ROM, you should definitely try The Peoples Rom (TPR) and if your not satisfied with thatt, try Cut&Paste Rom. Those two ROM's are awesome.
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OK so i installed almost every ROM on there and here is what i found.
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:good: CleanGB ---- Takes the crown, super fast battery charge in less then 45minutes the battery is full. Over a period of 8 hours in stand by(as i sleep) the battery did not drop at all. :
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Your battery charges in 45mins? Does anybody elses battery charge in 45mins? I never heard of that before...
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On AOKP I enabled fast charge once, if you don't use it at all while it's on the charger I think it'll charge in 45 mins.
EDIT: here's a screenie from AOKP with fast charge enabled
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Did you get gps working with the nexus modem on aokp?
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Hmm perhaps I need to have didhiy do the kernel fix. There's a fix on the nexus s since people had the same problem. So far, I've only seen you and another person on the epic having that issue, which is odd. Talk to him though, since he fixed it somehow. His name is popssracer.
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In my personal experiences, the newest Cut & Paste ROM has AMAZING battery life. I can get over a day easily at home all day with no charge, and maybe 15-24 hours out in the world (I'm a professional touring musician, so there's times where I have NO charging source at all).
What I noticed also has equal or better battery life to TouchWiz are MIUI ROMs. If you can manage your power usage and turn off data services when you aren't using them, I could EASILY get days out of battery on 2.1.6.
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Did you get gps working with the nexus modem on aokp?
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GPS work just fine for me with AOKP M6/Crespo modem
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In my personal experiences, the newest Cut & Paste ROM has AMAZING battery life. I can get over a day easily at home all day with no charge, and maybe 15-24 hours out in the world (I'm a professional touring musician, so there's times where I have NO charging source at all).
What I noticed also has equal or better battery life to TouchWiz are MIUI ROMs. If you can manage your power usage and turn off data services when you aren't using them, I could EASILY get days out of battery on 2.1.6.
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I would say if you know how to manager your data when you aren't using it EVERY rom can get great battery life... even cm10...