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SGX 540: SGS vs LG Optimus 3d

I just read an article here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4179/ti-omap4-and-lg-optimus-3d-tested
The LG Optimus 3d uses the same SGX 540 graphics that our SGS uses. BUT it is clocked at 300mhz vs our 200mhz AND it uses an updated driver. With these improvements, early benchmarks show it beats the tegra 2 and the quad-gpu in the SGS II. Of course these benchmarks don't tell the whole story, but I still find it interesting. I hope Samsung can make sure android can take advantage of the gpu in the SGS II.
Most PowerVR SGX 540 designs run the GPU core at up to 200MHz. OMAP 4's implementation is another 50% faster. LG's software build also uses a newer version of Imagination Technologies' driver (1.6 instead of 1.5) which fixes some rendering issues (specifically in the Egypt test) and improves performance considerably (likely between 10 - 30% in GLBenchmark2). You can see that the image quality issues are fixed in the video showing the Egypt demo running on the LG Optimus 3D below:
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Taking the performance improvement due to the driver out of the equation, we're still looking at a nearly 20% increase in performance over the SGX 540 in Hummingbird. The 4430 holds a similar advantage over NVIDIA's Tegra 2.
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Hey, I want this driver! Maybe, devs could be able to port it to SGS somehow.
By the way, GPU in Desire HD and Desire Z (adreno 205) beats SGS one in benchmarks and goes head-to-head with Tegra.
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if it causes the same battery drain, i want that driver too...

Id love to see how the Sony NGP with ARM Cortex-A9 quad-core processor & SGX543MP4+ GPU stacks up....just for fun of course.

The SGX540 is indeed a very good GPU. Still not outdated, even at 200 MHz.

zorxd said:
The SGX540 is indeed a very good GPU. Still not outdated, even at 200 MHz.
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You can change it the kernel also to 300MHz if you have te skils. Our SGS has stil many potentional
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I hope skilled devs like Supercurio and Hardcore are reading this thread and get some inspiration

F**king apple
I hope everyone is realizing how dumb it was to let apple buy imaginetech.
And how come nvidia (a company i know for gpus) seems to be behind in gpu tech?

SamHaLeKe said:
You can change it the kernel also to 300MHz if you have te skils. Our SGS has stil many potentional
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Unlikely when you mess with the gpu clock there's an increase in instability, as well as putting other devices out of sync. I believe omap4 is using a different nm process to fabricate it probably smaller than the galaxys so they can put the clock higher.
The driver upgrade is the only possibility.

I think Hummingbird (A8) and Omap4 (A9) are based on same 45 nm architecture.
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Guys, look at that:
http://glbenchmark.com/subtest_results_of_device.jsp?D=Google+Nexus+S&id=405
There are 12 tests of Nexus S in GLBenchmark, and 11 of them are below 2400 points (more or less like our SGS), but the most recent one (uploaded at 2011.02.11) scored 3025 points, more than Tegra 2. This result's is made by someone from GLBenchmark, and shows at "GLBenchmark team tested" page of the results. How is that possible?

Just commenting to keep this going. I don't want to put my hopes up too much, but you never know

I'm beginning to believe that it was a bad move from Samsung to switch from PowerVR to the Mali-400. I have the money ready to spend on a new device and I hope it's the SGS2 but I will wait first for the final product and drivers and see some benchmarks before I buy. If the SGX540 keeps the lead maybe I'll stick with my SGS.

samsung got tegra 2 also for I9103 phone
but SGX543 was good a option

Samsung pr overhyped their processor capabilities. But I guess there not confident in there own soc. If they decided to make a tegra 2 version.

MarlowXim said:
Samsung pr overhyped their processor capabilities. But I guess there not confident in there own soc. If they decided to make a tegra 2 version.
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i'm pretty sure they are only making a tegra 2 version because they wont be able to manufacture enough orion cores to meet the demand.

i think that the galaxy tab gpu is clocked at higher speed than galaxy s as it gives same score at neocore on (1024x600) resolution , am i wrong

Give an App for gpu oc please Dev's
And of course DRIVER update please

Interesting. I did see GPU overclock to 247mhz in some kernels, but any driver upgrade or OC is awesome

oswade said:
Interesting. I did see GPU overclock to 247mhz in some kernels, but any driver upgrade or OC is awesome
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Can you show us where
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confused on gpu statistics..

Hello dear atrix 4g community!
I am seriously thinking of purchasing this device ,but the yesterday's ipad gpu perfomance I was baffled..
so I would really appreciate some answers on tech info before I make a purchase..
tegra 2 includes a single core gpu while ,from what I read sgx543 is around 50% faster than tegra 2 per CORE! 2 cores included in said product..don't get me wrong..atrix is already plenty..no...more than plenty fast, but paying all that money for a device outspecced by 200% ,a week after release,just does not sit well with me..so my question is....are those numbers I hear/read real,and thus should wait for a tegra 3 phone??especially considering the locked bootloader which equals NO rom support other than motorola's (rotflmfao) ...please share your knowledge!thanks in advance..
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I may be wrong, but the Tegra 2 has 8 gpu cores, while the Ipad 2s has 16...
Should be at least 150% better

Well a single core SGX540 keeps up with the 8 core ULV GeForce in the Tegra 2, and the SGX543 even in single core form outperforms the 540 by a wide shot so...

Don't be this guy:
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(its a joke)

haahah! I often thought how ridiculous it would look to make phone call from a tablet..that's what he looks like he is doing!on a side note,I am kind of an apple hater!
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anyway,back to serious so what I had read so far was true..I guess I will wait...wow.it really must be weird though...I believe that actually all ces 2011 were outpaced only a few days after the event ended..what must be even worse is the adreno 220...what a joke, 400% less fillrate per CORE vs the competition, yawza..anyway,motorola has a history of bringing ti powered androids, I will wait for one of them I guess or wait to see how tegra 3 will do..
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Lol, just putting this out there. If you try to wait for technology to stop evolving, you're screwed. Don't not buy one product because of something coming down th line. The Ipdad 2 will suck in august compared to kal el. The adreno 220 will suck compared to adreno 300.
You have to realize most modern tech has a shelf-life of maybe 3 months. The only exception ever was the HTC evo, which is still a good phone due to it being so far ahead of it's time.

I understand this well my friend..I am not looking for miracles...just this time around, t2 phones got outpaced in pretty much a week's time...so that has to be factored in,when you are paying this type of budget..am I right?I am not looking for a perfect phone,but not one left two generations behind either,by the time of purchase (again..I am not saying that t2 is slow..I know better than that )
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Lol, just putting this out there. If you try to wait for technology to stop evolving, you're screwed. Don't not buy one product because of something coming down th line. The Ipdad 2 will suck in august compared to kal el. The adreno 220 will suck compared to adreno 300.
You have to realize most modern tech has a shelf-life of maybe 3 months. The only exception ever was the HTC evo, which is still a good phone due to it being so far ahead of it's time.
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Samsung Galaxy S2 I-9103

Heyo
Here we will put all news and questions about the SGS2 I-9103.
Here are the Specs:
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I9103
http://www.91mobiles.com/mobile/Samsung/Galaxy+S+II+I9103/9986.html
I9100 (to compare)
http://www.91mobiles.com/mobile/Samsung/Galaxy+S+II+I9100/8374.html
I mark'd the differences in yellow that I saw so far.
The main differents are the SLCD (Super Liquid Chrystal Display) and the Nvidia Tegra 2 Processor and it seems that the 1080p HD Video Recording is at 30fps in stock.
I think the new SLCD Screen will boost the battery life alot !
Any new Information about this model of SGS2 can be posted here !
I will edit it soon with more Information.
Can't wait to get it!

I cant see any difference between 9100 & 9103
Are there any?
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Old info, look at the post date. Samsung has stated they don't have any plans to release this device any time soon. Micht change in the future but now it's definatly cancelled.

Screen is Super LCD rather than Super AMOLED Plus and the Processor is a Tegra 2 Processor (Nvidia) rather than Samsung's own Exynos
Exynos + Chainfire 3D ftw!!

samsung meant to release this phone because they can't answer the orders for 9100.. the samsung i-9103 has some benefits and handicaps against the i-9100. 9103 has a nvidia tegra2 graphic processor which might be stronger in some cases but lacks the benefits of the th super amoled plus screen since it has a clear type LCD screen..

just like the i9003 (AKA Galaxy S i9000 2011 editon)

- added a screenshot with yellow marks
hope that they will release it soon and not in 2012.
Then I would wait for an SGS3 !

Any news about Samsung GT-I9103
Any release date ?
BC I dont know what to do. Wait for Glaxy S II i9103, OR take LG Optimus 2X...

There's also the new GT-I9001 coming in september. It's called Galaxy S Plus, and actually beats the SGS2 in cpu-specs. Samsung.de is already advertising for it on their homepage.
Dual-core 1,4 Ghz cpu beats the SGS2, but othervise its smaller in specs - 5Mp camera, 8 Gb internal memory and so on.
So by overclocking the SGS2 a bit, it's still the strongest in the block...

It says "Ultraschneller 1,4 GHz Prozessor" which means something like fast 1,4GHz CPU, but no mention of Dualcore somewhere... so its a Singlecore, every marketing department would mention Dualcore if it would be a dualcore...

SLCD screen will increase battery use not decrease it compared to samLED+

Testraindrop said:
It says "Ultraschneller 1,4 GHz Prozessor" which means something like fast 1,4GHz CPU, but no mention of Dualcore somewhere... so its a Singlecore, every marketing department would mention Dualcore if it would be a dualcore...
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Yes, I agree, pretty sure it is single core, probably also based on Cortex A8, so it is slower than SGS2 also in single threaded tasks regardless of the higher clock frequency.

Eddiedk said:
There's also the new GT-I9001 coming in september. It's called Galaxy S Plus, and actually beats the SGS2 in cpu-specs. Samsung.de is already advertising for it on their homepage.
Dual-core 1,4 Ghz cpu beats the SGS2, but othervise its smaller in specs - 5Mp camera, 8 Gb internal memory and so on.
So by overclocking the SGS2 a bit, it's still the strongest in the block...
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No. The Galaxy S Plus has a single core CPU.

So many rumours about Galaxy devices... Tegra 2 dual-core galaxy SII is more of a Cinderella for now, doesn't exist and probably won't exist at all.

iPhone 5 catches up to flagship droids in first Geekbench scores

Look like my S3 is going to be down..someone explain and what you think about this ?
It has its crown
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There was plenty of speculation what kind of CPU powered the new iPhone 5 and in the end it turned out to be a custom Apple design. So, how well did the Cupertino-based company did? According to an unverified Geekbench results, A6more than meets the 2x performance increase Apple promised.
The results are nothing short of amazing - the Apple A6 chipset has two custom cores rated at 1GHz with 1GB of RAM and it easily stands up to quad-core Cortex-A9 and dual-core Krait designs running at 1.5GHz.
The iPhone 5 has more than double the CPU performance of the 4S, beating it in every category that Geekbench tests. The RAM has gotten faster too. Even the A5X in the new iPad can't compete (understandable as A5X only improves GPU performance over the A5).
As for high-end Androids, Exynos 4 Quad and Tegra 3 based phones like the Samsung Galaxy S III and the HTC One X manage to outperform the iPhone 5 if they are running Android Jelly Bean. Under Ice Cream Sandwich, the performance of the One X drops down to the levels of the iPhone.
The HTC One S and its two Krait cores manage to match the iPhone 5 under Ice Cream Sandwich, so it should come out slightly ahead.
Just for fun, here's a dual-core Pentium 4 541 (Prescott architecture) downclocked to 2.4GHz matching the performance of the iPhone 5. This CPU came out in Q3 of 2004.
If these benchmark results do turn out to be from the iPhone 5 (results can be faked, so take it with a grain of salt) then Apple must have worked some serious magic. The Apple A6 chipset makes even Krait cores look slow (again, it's 1GHz vs. 1.5GHz).
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http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/1030202

http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/search?q=samsung+galaxy+s+III
See... How many S III scored lower than 1601...
All with JB leaks beats iPhone 5 score...
i think the benchmarking tool is a bit of weird. The One S also scored 1.5k... Not X but S.... S4 processor. Maybe it does not really use all the 4 cores?

the benchmark tool is useless... its more OS based then anything... change your launcher that u use and u'll get a different score every time...

I think you need to learn how to read geek bench the majority of iPhone 5 score is in fast memory the processor is still pretty slow by itself. Also mod please close this thread all iPhone threads crash and burn.
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why people open everyday same **** again again(@OP : Is apple marketing team has ordered open new thread everyday?). the iphone 5 have nothing new. just to say thinnest and tallest (but these kind of models already available years ago. ). If you want compare iphone 5 to galaxy line you have to compare it with galaxy s, sII or galaxy sIII mini. It's not worth it to compare to with sIII.
(By the way iphone5 cpu and memory provided by Samsung.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891076

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I got a 1741 on mine with stock 1.4ghz and jellybean. No sweat!!
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I think they used the US S3 which is dual cored, instead of the international S3. That's why the scores are lower.

1.Why post this on here?
2.A newer phone that is somehow faster....really? is that how technology works, well if it is then I guess the SGS4 to be even faster, and the SGS5, and I will go as far to say that the SGS24 will be greater still.

i think a lot of you who post Samsung s3 vs. whatever is insecure and are those who always want to have the best or be the best. People are competitive by nature but being obsessive, wasting your time and energy on products that serve the same purpose is a bit overkill. My advise is to find a cure for the disease you have. Just enjoy your phone.

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i think a lot of you who post Samsung s3 vs. whatever is insecure and are those who always want to have the best or be the best. People are competitive by nature but being obsessive, wasting your time and energy on products that serve the same purpose is a bit overkill. My advise is to find a cure for the disease you have. Just enjoy your phone.
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Very well said! the other word " BIASED"

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Very well said! the other word " BIASED"
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I get over 2000 with the jelly bean and the processor overclocked to 1.6

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question the GPU

i want to know if the GPU of the OCTA-Core is GOOD or is better the ADRENO 320? cuz im a GAmer and i love to play games is better the OCTACORE GPU or the ADRENO 320?

They're each stronger than the other in different ways, and both should suffice greatly for gaming.
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The Adreno has gotten slightly better benchmark results but both are pretty darn fast, fast enough to handle anything you can throw at your phone.
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The GPU on the octacore was intentionally set to match the quads as to not beast them to the point where the US market felt dwarfed and cheated. Give this phone a month or two and we will start to see the real power.

still have the same question XD the 2 GPU are good but i want to choose 1 which one?

adreno 320 is more future proof due to open gl 3.0 support. Its also faster in most benchmarks, so it should be also faster in games.
edit: adreno 320 for sure

Adreno 320 is definitely the best one. That's the reason I'm not buying the Octa version. I'm not a big gamer, but PowerVR is 4 years old while Adreno is months old. Adreno have opengl es 3.0 and scores way better than PowerVR.
For those who are still hopping: PowerVR is NOT underclocked. Don't forget it's overclocked at 544 MHz and 3 cores. Adreno is 4 cores at 450MHz. Admit that is old. I talked with somebody from Imagination and they told that it's good for a 4 years old gpu and may will still be 1-2 years. But it's old....if we get OpenGL ES 3.0 games, Octa is f**ked

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Adreno 320 is definitely the best one. That's the reason I'm not buying the Octa version. I'm not a big gamer, but PowerVR is 4 years old while Adreno is months old. Adreno have opengl es 3.0 and scores way better than PowerVR.
For those who are still hopping: PowerVR is NOT underclocked. Don't forget it's overclocked at 544 MHz and 3 cores. Adreno is 4 cores at 450MHz. Admit that is old. I talked with somebody from Imagination and they told that it's good for a 4 years old gpu and may will still be 1-2 years. But it's old....if we get OpenGL ES 3.0 games, Octa is f**ked
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NICEEEE SO I WILL GET THE QUAD-Core but i still will wait if Nvidia Drops the Tegra 4

which bench results showing advantage to Adreno 320 ?
Adreno 320 is old GPU for me.

darkhelio said:
NICEEEE SO I WILL GET THE QUAD-Core but i still will wait if Nvidia Drops the Tegra 4
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Tegra 4 could be a good choice, but don't be hypnotized by the 72 cores (or whatever Tegra have). Those cores are like the Octa, sounds nice but isn't so powerful. Those cores are very small, those 72 cores doesn't gives more power than a 4-cores gpu. Adreno 330 should be as good as Tegra 4. Adreno 320 is a bit slower, but I don't think will be much difference. We will see. Choose smart, think smart
Cheers.

avetny said:
which bench results showing advantage to Adreno 320 ?
Adreno 320 is old GPU for me.
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Glbenchmark 2.7 trex
Glbenchmark 2.5 hd
3d mark extrem
3d mark standard
Not by much, but faster and more future proof
darkhelio said:
NICEEEE SO I WILL GET THE QUAD-Core but i still will wait if Nvidia Drops the Tegra 4
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I bet we wont see the "real" Tegra 4 in smartphones. Its to power hungry. The Tegra 4i will come to smartphones for sure.

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Glbenchmark 2.7 trex
Glbenchmark 2.5 hd
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Not by much, but faster and more future proof
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Ok can you run 3d mark standard on you 9505 ! (on your phone)
I will do the samething. Let's exchange with screenshots
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avetny said:
Ok can you run 3d mark standard on you 9505 ! (on your phone)
I will do the samething. Let's exchange with screenshots
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No, as i dont have a sgs4.
http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/3dmark-sgs4-exynos-vs-htc-one.html
And the sgs4 s600 is 15% faster then the one...

demlasjr said:
Tegra 4 could be a good choice, but don't be hypnotized by the 72 cores (or whatever Tegra have). Those cores are like the Octa, sounds nice but isn't so powerful. Those cores are very small, those 72 cores doesn't gives more power than a 4-cores gpu. Adreno 330 should be as good as Tegra 4. Adreno 320 is a bit slower, but I don't think will be much difference. We will see. Choose smart, think smart
Cheers.
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yes but when is goign to be the S800 Series and the Adrenos 330 :s and i want a phone XD but i want something powerfull i will still wait for 3 months and lets see whats happens

darkhelio said:
yes but when is goign to be the S800 Series and the Adrenos 330 :s and i want a phone XD but i want something powerfull i will still wait for 3 months and lets see whats happens
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In 3 month you could see the first s800 devices. But then the next gen qualcomm will be announced and you´ll have to wait again for 3-6 month for the new, more powerfull one... and so on

shox22 said:
In 3 month you could see the first s800 devices. But then the next gen qualcomm will be announced and you´ll have to wait again for 3-6 month for the new, more powerfull one... and so on
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PFF :S lets see what happens i dont like the Thorttle :S os the S4

avetny said:
Ok can you run 3d mark standard on you 9505 ! (on your phone)
I will do the samething. Let's exchange with screenshots
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I'll bring screenshots later but your Graphics score is 10448 while my GS4 gets 11258. Would you mind scrolling down the screenshot so we can see the results for both Test 1 and 2 as well as the demo?
Your quad A15 CPU is obviously faster though with over a thousand higher Physics score.
BTW, since you have the A15 model can you do me a favor and run a few tests using RgbenchMM? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.codedivine.rgbench
I'd like to see the numbers for 1 core, 2 core and 4 cores.