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[Q] Probablility of Bricking my phone? <- Noob

Whats the probability of bricking my phone if I root it and install some apps vs rooting it and installing roms? I tried to look around for info on this and found an article on another site that says it's kind hard to brick a phone since there are 3 safety measures in place? Sorry, a tad paranoid here, first smart phone.

close to 0 unless you really start to do some really wrong things

Its tough to be beyond recovery. The only surefire way I've seen is clicking "phone" instead of "pda" in odin. This forum is great and everyone is very helpful. Before flashing a new rom, read a much as possible. You should be fine.
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
Its tough to be beyond recovery. The only surefire way I've seen is clicking "phone" instead of "pda" in odin. This forum is great and everyone is very helpful. Before flashing a new rom, read a much as possible. You should be fine.
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ok thanks, is it easy to flash to stock? I saw the way to do it in odin wasn't sure if there is something even easier.

The probability of bricking your phone if inversely proportionate to the amount of reading you do before you flash something!
If you stick to the proven, tested, well documented stuff and read, then re-read, the directions you will be fine.

If this is your first android device, I would strongly encourage reading a lot and a few times before attempting...Fascinate is a bit different from other android devices as well the way the system works...I have had eris, droid, incredible and the x...and with the fascinate still read and re-read everything before attempting. One tiny missed step could cause hours of hassle and recovery time...
Just to give you some directions...here are good threads to read:
-ROOT, Recovery, Update and More...
-How to flash Voodoo Kernels and more...
Also, don't be afraid to ask questions... it's always better to ask, then mess something up.
What are you trying to do?

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If this is your first android device, I would strongly encourage reading a lot and a few times before attempting...Fascinate is a bit different from other android devices as well the way the system works...I have had eris, droid, incredible and the x...and with the fascinate still read and re-read everything before attempting. One tiny missed step could cause hours of hassle and recovery time...
Just to give you some directions...here are good threads to read:
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Also, don't be afraid to ask questions... it's always better to ask, then mess something up.
What are you trying to do?
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I want to root the phone to get rid of annoying bing and install the wireless tethering app. Then I wanted to install voodoo to hopefully fix the lag which I sometimes get. I'm just concerned about the ease of reverting to stock. I am kinda interested in custom roms or themes but not entirely sure of the benefits of the roms or the safety of installing either.
On a side note dang how did you afford all the phones or did you just trade them up as you went?

Slacker101 said:
I want to root the phone to get rid of annoying bing and install the wireless tethering app. Then I wanted to install voodoo to hopefully fix the lag which I sometimes get. I'm just concerned about the ease of reverting to stock. I am kinda interested in custom roms or themes but not entirely sure of the benefits of the roms or the safety of installing either.
On a side note dang how did you afford all the phones or did you just trade them up as you went?
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I have 3 lines with vzw, so I do have updates once in a while
My eris, I had less than 30 days and traded it in for droid...then sold droid on ebay and bought the incredible....then returned the incredible within 60 days because of bad battery and poor call quality....then got the x...well the x was just too big, so i returned it and bought an incredible off ebay... that one was actually perfect...and finally got the fascinate with one of line upgrades...and sold incredible .....that's quite a history now that I look at it
As far as mods, follow the links I posted above...on the voodoo one, definitely read and re-read to make sure you understand and won't miss steps. If anything, you can always restore back to stock using odin...although hoping you will not end up to need it.

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I have 3 lines with vzw, so I do have updates once in a while
My eris, I had less than 30 days and traded it in for droid...then sold droid on ebay and bought the incredible....then returned the incredible within 60 days because of bad battery and poor call quality....then got the x...well the x was just too big, so i returned it and bought an incredible off ebay... that one was actually perfect...and finally got the fascinate with one of line upgrades...and sold incredible .....that's quite a history now that I look at it
As far as mods, follow the links I posted above...on the voodoo one, definitely read and re-read to make sure you understand and won't miss steps. If anything, you can always restore back to stock using odin...although hoping you will not end up to need it.
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I went from eris to droid to fascinate. I took a gamble on ebay by starting the bid on a fascinate at $175. I won it for the initial bid and sold my droid on craigslist for $200 so I actually made money getting a better phone. Win.

tats_06 said:
I have 3 lines with vzw, so I do have updates once in a while
My eris, I had less than 30 days and traded it in for droid...then sold droid on ebay and bought the incredible....then returned the incredible within 60 days because of bad battery and poor call quality....then got the x...well the x was just too big, so i returned it and bought an incredible off ebay... that one was actually perfect...and finally got the fascinate with one of line upgrades...and sold incredible .....that's quite a history now that I look at it
As far as mods, follow the links I posted above...on the voodoo one, definitely read and re-read to make sure you understand and won't miss steps. If anything, you can always restore back to stock using odin...although hoping you will not end up to need it.
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Ah alright, yeah the plan is to not need it unless I have to take the phone in for some reason xD. Right now I just realized I'm not sure how to get this damn hard case I bought off the phone... anyway is odin the only way to unroot?

keith.mcintyre26 said:
I went from eris to droid to fascinate. I took a gamble on ebay by starting the bid on a fascinate at $175. I won it for the initial bid and sold my droid on craigslist for $200 so I actually made money getting a better phone. Win.
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That does sound like a win!!!! I sold my incredible for like $360 and got fascinate for $199...not bad either

If your worried about bricking your phone your good. Its when people think they know what they are doing, that's when you mess **** up. Just remember PDA not PHONE when using Odin... PDA PDA PDA PDA PDA PDA.... NOT PHONE....
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I swapped out my Vibrant for a new one and forgot to delete the file for root

I swapped out my Vibrant for a new one and forgot to delete the file for root. Is this a problem or will T-Mobile not even notice the file and just wipe the internal mem? I unrooted it before I sent it in but I forgot to delete the file.

Authorities have been notified..... probably on their way to your house now......

alecjake said:
I swapped out my Vibrant for a new one and forgot to delete the file for root. Is this a problem or will T-Mobile not even notice the file and just wipe the internal mem? I unrooted it before I sent it in but I forgot to delete the file.
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Pack your bags, get on the first flight out of town.
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Hahaha nice jokes.
Don't worry they don't check every phone infact they putthe phones on racks and a computer auto turns them to stock erasing everything
No worries
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I bricked mine and sent it back to them with a custom rom and a i9000 kernel on it....no problem once its in good physical condition they wont give you any trouble
alecjake said:
I swapped out my Vibrant for a new one and forgot to delete the file for root. Is this a problem or will T-Mobile not even notice the file and just wipe the internal mem? I unrooted it before I sent it in but I forgot to delete the file.
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Vibrant + Nero + OCLF

I hope you don't get charge cuz if they find out you will. Trust me I got a couple of friends working for Tmo.

I did the same thing OP, no big deal... I didn't get charged..

When I got mine I asked the sales person about rooting the phone. Keep in mind this is a salesperson and not T-Mobile corporate, but she really knew her stuff. She was the one everyone else in the store went to for help when they were not sure of the answer to a customer's question.
She said, if you have to return it just get it back to looking stock. Have the stock ROM on the phone and remove any obvious root or root required apps if they are still installed after you put the stock ROM on there. She said if it made me more comfortable I could remove busybox and su, but that nobody was going to go digging into the file system to see if the phone was rooted.
Basically they know, even if they don't officially acknowledge, that rooting the phone does not break it. If the phone is running stock firmware and it is still having issues then it is highly likely that the issue is hardware. Also, the preliminary acceptance or denial of the claim is done in store. If it makes it back to the factory it is pretty much accepted unless something really fishy pops up, like it is obvious you have been dissembling the device. They might kick it back if they find a FFC or soldering at the GPS antenna, but they are not looking for the su executive at that point.

They don't check the phones out that they get back they just restore them or whatever
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I hope you don't get charge cuz if they find out you will. Trust me I got a couple of friends working for Tmo.
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Vibrant + Nero + OCLF

Yeah. Everyone is right. No worries. I ducked up a captivate on a30 day test drive with ATT, I took it back with stock ROM and even left superuser icon on there just hid it with launcher pro. Shouldn't have any problems. I didnt and believe they didn't wanna take that phone back on day 29.
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I've sent mine to samsung after i bricked it messing with roms, it was sent in with absolutely nothing original software wise.
didnt even get a warning. they flashed and sent it back A-ok

Rooting should I pay for it ?

Hello everyone I bough HTC panache which is same as mt4g. This guy at mall repair store told me he can root my phone and make it girly and very fast with some fusion Rom he said or miui. But he's asking 75$ and he said it will remove the mobilicity boot screen which I do hate . Is it good deal or worth it ? Please help me
Sofia
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sofia-captivate said:
Hello everyone I bough HTC panache which is same as mt4g. This guy at mall repair store told me he can root my phone and make it girly and very fast with some fusion Rom he said or miui. But he's asking 75$ and he said it will remove the mobilicity boot screen which I do hate . Is it good deal or worth it ? Please help me
Sofia
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Honestly that's a complete rip off. And if any change he messes it up then you'd be out of luck. I would say 20 dollars is the max anyone should charge. I don't know anything on how to root the Panache but I doubt it is any harder than to root our MT4G's. Just look it up and see if it's something you could learn how to do. I don't think it should take any more than 5-10 minutes.

In my opinion, if you cannot root the phone yourself, you should not own a rooted phone. Your lack of knowledge means the chances of you screwing something up after the other person has rooted it for you is very high.

So true, I root phones and I charge 30 an hour nornally it takes less thanks half an hour so I charge between 10q and 15. I only charge more if its different like the gold card method or I have to downgrade thier firmware or something like that and even then its not more then 30, but I sure like it when people tip me.
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Honestly that's a complete rip off. And if any change he messes it up then you'd be out of luck. I would say 20 dollars is the max anyone should charge. I don't know anything on how to root the Panache but I doubt it is any harder than to root our MT4G's. Just look it up and see if it's something you could learn how to do. I don't think it should take any more than 5-10 minutes.
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Boom... Headshot! from my L96A1

$75??? screw that....youre better off reading from XDA and rooting yourself, that way if you want to go back to stock or have any problems, you wont have to rely on someone else to do it for you. familiarize yourself with the phone, as well as the forums board before you take the plunge and root your phone

TeeJay couldn't of said it any better.
If you cannot root your phone, do not own a rooted phone.
more phone are bricked due to ignorance more than any other reason.

mackster248 said:
Honestly that's a complete rip off. And if any change he messes it up then you'd be out of luck. I would say 20 dollars is the max anyone should charge. I don't know anything on how to root the Panache but I doubt it is any harder than to root our MT4G's. Just look it up and see if it's something you could learn how to do. I don't think it should take any more than 5-10 minutes.
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$75 is intense. The only thing I can suggest is reading. Read up on everything you're about to do. It's been suggested to me, I have done it & continue to do it. It helps & this way, if something goes wrong, you know what's going on & can potentially fix it yourself.
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Yea I agree with the majority here, rooting the mt4g wasn't difficult. There's really only 2 ways: visionary or gfree. Just take your time and read up, if you run into any problems or have any questions ask us here @ xda first b4 doing anything. Learning about rooting your android phone and unlocking all the cool things that are available by yourself beats paying for it to be done and having no idea what's been done to ur phone and possibly bricking it.
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all info's free on the web, you can do your own research without paying or pay fees to have some1 work for you. it's like wash your own car vs pay to wash. in free world nothing's rip off, just supply demand.

Agree with the others. I'm not saying you shouldn't root your phone, because everybody starts out as a noob. But I do think that, regardless of the cost of paying someone else to root your phone, the main issue is that when you root and flash different roms, there is pretty much guaranteed to be some required updating or flashing of some kind again in the future. Having someone else do it for you, whether paid or free, means you're fully dependant on another person to MAINTAIN your rooted phone...so in a paid situation, it might wind up being more than $75 if some updating is later required...I'd take the time and read the basics, and as long as you can follow fairly simple instructions, you can root your phone and set it up just how you want it. It doesn't require advanced technical knowledge or even much time. It's more about having control over your own phone than the money, IMO.

hell no, agree with others, just read than more read, than use ginger break instead of visionary as most here doesn't realize panache comes with ginger bread instead of froyo their phones comes with.
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Thanks everyone for reply. I have owned many rooted phone. I have rooted galaxy s and xperia x10 and when I rooted the first HTC desire for friend I bricked it . That's why I'm scared to root this phone. But once I get root and clockwork I can do roms easily . It's just HTC rootings is so hard but amazing roms and devs .
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Check this thread-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108075
Use SuperOneClick.

I have to disagree with the others. The person charging $75 has every right to charge that, because they probably want extra money in case a problem occurs and the phone ends up bricked. Mechanics charge over $100 to do a set of brakes that I and anyone else can do for $25 themselves. All they have to do is find the information on the web. If you're too lazy to do it yourself then you pay a premium to have someone else do it.

[Q] <Issue><Please Help> Droid X at Bootloader Screen

I tried installing the Gingerbread update, and when I installed both Parts 1 & 2, then rebooted, my phone only goes to the bootloader screen. Tried using RDS and that, and couldn't find my phone. So I'm stuck.
My phone boots now with a red Moto logo and then goes to the error screen.
My question is, what will Verizon say when they see it? I'm going to take it there later today. I'm under insurance but hacking voids that I believe.
What should I say to get it replaced at no cost?
I was going to say that I put it down, and then when I checked it later it was off, and then when I tried to boot it, this happened, saying I didn't hack it, maybe someone else got it.
Would that work?
Speedy answers would be great.
Thank you so much.

DO NOT TAKE IT TO VERIZON.
Look at the stickies, there is a thread about fixing your phone. You need to find the stock firmware and flash it with RSD.
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Also, the "I put it down" excuse will only work if you get a retard. Anyone who knows about Android will know what you did
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Did you install the Motorola drivers before attempting an SBF, just Google "Motorola drivers".

Well I have funny news for you guys.
I actually saw your messages after I got back..but thank you for your time.
But the guy...bought the story. He said I was probably recieving a bad update, and was able to fix the phone.
The guy was awesome though, after, he could tell it had ben rooted, and said, "yeah just know that root won't work on Gingerbread", which he installed for me.
So problem solved.
The extent of how lucky I was is amazing.

Well good deal. I'm glad he was cool. You can root, you just have to sbf back to froyo first
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If you mess up your phone when you are messing with it, you are responsible for fixing it. Not Verizon.

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If you mess up your phone when you are messing with it, you are responsible for fixing it. Not Verizon.
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Not sure why you're posting this now.
And I think i'm gonna stay away from rooting right now.

If you do ever decide you want root get the bootable linux cd with the automated scripts to sbf with. It is totally painless.
My DroidX Thrives on the DarkSlide!!

Reason no to root on day 2 of contract?

Ok, this might be a MEGA noobish question, but i have never dealt with Android before so please bare with me XD
I have just (yesterday) got my Atrix on tmobile in the uk, an would like to root it to use Aura ROM to get the 2.3.4 features and general improvements it seems to bring, but is there any reason to wait any length of time?
Its my understanding that Android is completely OpenSource, so is rooting it voiding any warranty, or is it OK with carriers? I ask since tmobile offers a 14 day period to make sure im happy with the phone, and that it all works fine, which it seems to after my extensive playing/testing over the last 2 days, but if it does go wrong i wouldnt want to take it in, rooted, and have them say they cant help me.
any clearing up of this would be much appreciated!

You should wait until the return period is over before rooting it. This will give you time to make sure nothing is physically wrong with it. Rooting alone will not void your warranty. However, unlocking the boot loader will and you need to do that to load a custom recovery so that you can flash another ROM. An unlocked message will get displayed on the start up screen. Some carriers may not pay much attention to that when returning it. Motorola will most likely notice if you need to use the manufacturers warranty though.

Root will void your warranty, wait till the trial period is over just to be safe...
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i got my phone from AT&T and rooted it as soon as i got home, a week later i ended up hard bricking my phone and went into the AT&T store and got it replaced for free. now, i did also pay for insurance on my phone so if anything happened to it (even if it's my fault) i'd get it replaced, but it seemed as if the representative had no clue what he was talking about. i was honest with them and everything and told him i was trying to unlock the phone when it happened, and he just kind of smiled and nodded and then pulled out a new phone out of the back. i asked how much i owed him, and he told me nothing.
point of the story is, i wouldn't worry about rooting the phone. it's possible that you won't be able to get it replaced, but chances are the rep you talk to either won't know what rooting is, or won't care. unlocking your bootloader though, i'd definitely wait a little while.

thanks, that is a good point though that people in the shop probably wont understand/care about rooting etc.
Though your reply, Alcapone, has confused me slightly i thought rooting and unlocking the bootloader were one and the same, but apparently not. could you please explain what is different, and is there any reason for me to root without unlocking the bootloader?
basically for now, since im on tmobile who seem quite slow at updating, i just want to get a way to put gingerbread on the phone. im ok with waiting 2 weeks for roms, but 2.3.4 i could do with now, if its possible, can that be done just by rooting?
many thanks

ishamm said:
thanks, that is a good point though that people in the shop probably wont understand/care about rooting etc.
Though your reply, Alcapone, has confused me slightly i thought rooting and unlocking the bootloader were one and the same, but apparently not. could you please explain what is different, and is there any reason for me to root without unlocking the bootloader?
basically for now, since im on tmobile who seem quite slow at updating, i just want to get a way to put gingerbread on the phone. im ok with waiting 2 weeks for roms, but 2.3.4 i could do with now, if its possible, can that be done just by rooting?
many thanks
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rooting your device is just giving it root access, so apps can access parts of the system that they normally couldn't. rooting is extremely easily, and reversible. there are multiple ways to do it, i would suggest either the one click root for all gingerbread devices here
or the preinstall method here
now, unlocking the bootloader is a lot different. it pretty much enables you to install custom firmware onto your device. you can install a custom recovery that allows you to install amazing ROMs such as CM7, Aura, Ninja, Alien, Red Pill, Homebase, etc. etc.
i'm still assuming you're on gingerbread, so unlocking your bootloader is a panicky process. you'll get a fake hard brick (0x1000 error), but all you have to do is boot into fastboot mode and type the command 'fastboot oem unlock'. you can find a really awesome script that will do it all for you here
now, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty. it gives you a bit of text on your boot logo (the motorola screen) that says 'unlocked' and allows your carrier to know you voided the warranty. it's also irreversible, once unlocked always unlocked. so make your decision wisely
nevermind, just skimmed over your post again. my apologies, i misread a few parts originally, you'll need to unlock your device to install a custom ROM with gingerbread. you can unlock your device by flashing the .sbf files you can find in this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261

thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?

ishamm said:
thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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After you get the bootloader unlocked and cwm recovery installed going back to factory settings is as easy as installing a stock ROM. Which is pretty damn easy
And rooting alone isn't enough to get you gingerbread.
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awesome, thanks again. one last question (for now at least ) before i dive in, is this all possible on a mac, i noticed a lot of the rooters (if thats the right word?) are .exe which worried me slightly, im away from my windows machine for 2 weeks now. if not i guess thats as good a reason as any to not void my warranty for now XD

ishamm said:
awesome, thanks again. one last question (for now at least ) before i dive in, is this all possible on a mac, i noticed a lot of the rooters (if thats the right word?) are .exe which worried me slightly, im away from my windows machine for 2 weeks now. if not i guess thats as good a reason as any to not void my warranty for now XD
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You can go to the ihop thread in the dev forum and use the Mac sbf flasher provided there. After that use the sbf that corresponds to your device. Flashing the wrong sbf can brick your device so maker sure you get the right one. Then boot into fastboot and use the fastboot OEM unlock command.
You can root as well on a Mac i'm sure, I just wouldn't know how. I'm guessing the preinstall method I linked would work.
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ishamm said:
Ok, this might be a MEGA noobish question, but i have never dealt with Android before so please bare with me XD
I have just (yesterday) got my Atrix on tmobile in the uk, an would like to root it to use Aura ROM to get the 2.3.4 features and general improvements it seems to bring, but is there any reason to wait any length of t
Its my understanding that Android is completely OpenSource, so is rooting it voiding any warranty, or is it OK with carriers? I ask since tmobile offers a 14 day period to make sure im happy with the phone, and that it all works fine, which it seems to after my extensive playing/testing over the last 2 days, but if it does go wrong i wouldnt want to take it in, rooted, and have them say they cant help me.
any clearing up of this would be much appreciated!
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if you know how to root id do so. i already rooted, and also bricked my atrix. flashing the 4.2 sbf unbricked it and rerooted no problems so far, just the benefits of root (using apps that can only work with root permissions, flashing custom roms) also why flash Aura and run 2.3.4 when you can flash honeyatrix and run honeycomb 3.1?

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if you know how to root id do so. i already rooted, and also bricked my atrix. flashing the 4.2 sbf unbricked it and rerooted no problems so far, just the benefits of root (using apps that can only work with root permissions, flashing custom roms) also why flash Aura and run 2.3.4 when you can flash honeyatrix and run honeycomb 3.1?
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Honey atrix isn't really honeycomb. It's gingerbread with a bunch of mods installed to make it resemble honeycomb
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Alcapone263 said:
Honey atrix isn't really honeycomb. It's gingerbread with a bunch of mods installed to make it resemble honeycomb
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oh ok been running it along time so why does my android version say 3.1 and not 2.3?

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oh ok been running it along time so why does my android version say 3.1 and not 2.3?
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It uses some files from honeycomb that edits the version number. It's still gingerbread, trust me.
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It uses some files from honeycomb that edits the version number. It's still gingerbread, trust me.
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i see well not gonna argue about it, just askin. still a great rom and very fast. i change alot of the look to my preference though. i may like the features and speed but im not a big honeycomb theme fan, i like my status bar white and such.

rob219 said:
i see well not gonna argue about it, just askin. still a great rom and very fast. i change alot of the look to my preference though. i may like the features and speed but im not a big honeycomb theme fan, i like my status bar white and such.
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You should check out cm7. It's extremely customizable and really, really fast.
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Alcapone263 said:
You should check out cm7. It's extremely customizable and really, really fast.
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na not yet maybe after beta when everything works, kinda over cm now. new phone new roms hoping some new ones pop up here soon, but ill probly check out cm when its out of beta but most likely wont keep it as default.

after a bit of research it seems rooting on a mac is pretty tricky, since i dont have a vast ammount of terminal experience. is there a way i can forward some sort of app to the phone and root from the phone itself?

ishamm said:
thanks, so just to confirm, rooting alone wont allow me to update to 2.3.4? to be honest im not really to fussed about voiding warranty, it only lasts 2 weeks, and im away with no tmobile store even vaguely close for both of them plus i seem to be addicted to voiding the warranty on anything i buy by fiddling/overclocking asap, i cant help myself
i assume it is possible, if it does go wrong, to restore the phone to manufacturers settings and start again?
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The 2 weeks is a return window with tmobile. Motorola, and most vendors, offer a one year manufacturer warranty. That is the warranty you void when unlocking the boot loader. Just wanted to clarify that bit.

ah thanks, i guess motorola WOULD notice its unlocked then. after some reading i think i'll use CM7, seems less likely to kill the phone, right?
the phone is insured, i guess it would be covered by that if i bricked it for good? if not i could take a hammer to it and claim it was a 'terrible accident' XD