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Samsung Galaxy Z unveiled: Tegra 2, 4.2-inch SC-LCD

I think this is the Tegra version known as i9101 or i9103?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_z_appears_in_sweden_tegra_2_42inch_sclcd-news-2838.php

Wow, that's an Iphone replica Just kidding. Still voting for my lovely yellow tinted SII

You can see a quick preview here :
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php
I wanted to buy a galaxy s but now i'm hesitating

This is going to smother the LG O2X. Samsung plans on controlling the market for high end androids and it looks like its going to succeed by having a galaxy at every possible pricepoint.

Why would you hesitate as its not as good as the s2, dual 1ghz, 720p recording, no s-amoled screen and 8gb storage seems to be a more entry level version than anything else.

Tegra 2 beats Exynos once all the variables are similar.
~4000 quadrant stock and still clocked lower.
LOL

KingKuba13 said:
Tegra 2 beats Exynos once all the variables are similar.
~4000 quadrant stock and still clocked lower.
LOL
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well, take that with a grain of salt, why is Galaxy Z 50% faster in quadrant than LG O2X using the same platform?

It looks more like a face-lifted Galaxy S than a SGS2 variant.

tjtj4444 said:
well, take that with a grain of salt, why is Galaxy Z 50% faster in quadrant than LG O2X using the same platform?
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Twice the RAM than O2X for one and probably clocked to 1.2ghz (1ghz O2X).

This is the baby version of s2.

was this the rumoured sgs3 ?

AvRS said:
Why would you hesitate as its not as good as the s2, dual 1ghz, 720p recording, no s-amoled screen and 8gb storage seems to be a more entry level version than anything else.
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Tegra 2 clocks higher (faster clock vs clock), more optimized applications, other Tegra 2 devices are recording in 1080p (so that would come in later update/mod), Super LCD is just as good if not better than Super AMOLED+ w/ no yellowing/uneven colors with better color accuracy (also it is a 24-bit screen vs 16).

AvRS said:
Why would you hesitate as its not as good as the s2, dual 1ghz, 720p recording, no s-amoled screen and 8gb storage seems to be a more entry level version than anything else.
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If Tegra2 is entry level then damn we've come a long way in the past few months I know what you mean though. I'm a geek so it's no choice in my mind either, I'd still have bought the S2 if these two devices were released together. But if this is priced nicely it could reach a whole other group of consumers that the S2 was too rich for.

Hollow.Droid said:
1 I'd still have bought the S2 if these two devices were released together.
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+1
The SGSZ also doesn't appear to have HDMI, Wi-Fi Direct, USB2G, and Bluetooth 3.0. Let's hope it doesn't have the SGS1 GPS chip.

KingKuba13 said:
Tegra 2 beats Exynos once all the variables are similar.
~4000 quadrant stock and still clocked lower.
LOL
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This means absolutely nothing. SGS2 can't go higher than 60fps, after all that's the screen refresh rate so anything higher is just a waste of battery. Now you might want to ask yourself why Tegra 2's fps limit is higher. Nvidia have been in the game a long time, they know how to cheat in benchmarks.
Besides you should compare benchmarks that pushes these phones, Quadrant is very flawed and afaik not even multithreaded. I managed to score 1700 with my old Legend with a 600 MHz ARMv11 CPU clocked to 786 and data2ext hack.
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quadrant standard isnt the best way to decide on the speed. Even some of our own rom devs for the s2 can cook a hack into the rom. I have already benched in the 4000's on the old lite'ning rom. Its not hard. BTW, tegra is nice and all because im an nvidia fan, but it is not better if you ask me-maybe once properly optimized it will be better for gaming, but i couldnt care less about ps1 graphics on a phone.
Rex-tc! im surprised to see you here! You tried your best to defend the atrix yet you post here!!! Coming over to the darkside i c

Wrong naming schema. Should be Galaxy S2 - Lite

rd_nest said:
Wrong naming schema. Should be Galaxy S2 - Lite
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Or HiPhone 5

Sp1tfire said:
Or HiPhone 5
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Sorry to break the myth, it already exists

It's no GS2.

Samsung Galaxy S2 TEGRA

Will you be selling your SGS2 for this?
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9103-with-tegra-2-at-fcc
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THUDUK said:
Will you be selling your SGS2 for this?
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s2-gt-i9103-with-tegra-2-at-fcc
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Nope
Exynos > Tegra, especially with CF 3D.

Why would i sell a Cortex A9 CPU equipped device for a much slower Cortex A8 CPU equipped device?
The ONLY thing the Tegra unit has that the Exynos doesn't is official support for the Tegra zone games, games i dont play (and can be played with CFs driver anyway). In every other way the Exynos unit beats the Tegra one.

rovex said:
Why would i sell a Cortex A9 CPU equipped device for a much slower Cortex A8 CPU equipped device?
The ONLY thing the Tegra unit has that the Exynos doesn't is official support for the Tegra zone games, games i dont play (and can be played with CFs driver anyway). In every other way the Exynos unit beats the Tegra one.
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Tegra 2 is also a Cortex A9 architecture, but it has slower memory and no NEON instructions etc, so it is not as good as Exynos.

Also, I believe that Exynos can decode H.264 high profile in hardware unlike the Tegra2

pulser_g2 said:
Nope
Exynos > Tegra, especially with CF 3D.
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This. The only reason I was hesitant about buying the S2 was the gaming side but with CF and other games now being released sans Tegra2 compatibility I'm glad I made the jump

So if it's the GT-I9103, it must be the one gsmarena promoted as the Samsung Galaxy Z which can't be compared to SII specs wise.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-3967.php

I think they're two different phones for different markets. The Tegra SGS2 is a carrier phone so I'm guessing Samsung won't distribute it themselves. Samsung said all along they wouldn't have enough Exynos chips for worldwide distribution and initial talk was that Tegra would be sent to developing countries along with a S-LCD screen. Interesting that they chose to send it to the U.S. It's cheaper and the quantities the U.S. needs probably would have been more than Exynos production could keep up with. Or maybe AT&T was looking for a bargain. The Atrix and O2X/G2X are on Tegra so it'll be interesting to see how Samsung's use of it performs. It's been pretty disappointing (except for gaming) so far.

i9103 is the Galaxy Z.
All the news sources are idiots and keep parroting each other with the wrong info.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9103_galaxy_z-review-614.php

I'm waiting for the 32GB version. I hope it's not going to be tegra. Does anybody know if it is the 32GB?

downwiththebanksters said:
I'm waiting for the 32GB version. I hope it's not going to be tegra. Does anybody know if it is the 32GB?
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Afaik, there will not be 32gb version..
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Absolutely not...
Why change my beautyfull SAMO-LED screen for a lousy S-LCD, when i have waited so long for that screen. The Nexus S got the S-lcd in our area, and i was very disappointed - the only solution with AMOLED was the aging Galaxy S. But then the SGS2 came out, and by no means i'm going to swap it for an S-lcd - Tegra or not... (preferrably NOT - with thought on Nvidia's strategy)

pulser_g2 said:
Nope
Exynos > Tegra, especially with CF 3D.
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This GS2 with Tegra 2 already ran a ~4000 quadrant stock.

Again with the Quadrant scores which dont translate to real life usage

TEGRA is it a stable version?

S2 LTE model to be launched..

Source : www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=16385
"Samsung has made the Galaxy S II LTE smartphone that we learned about late last week official, ahead of its unveiling at the IFA technology trade show in Berlin, Germany later this week. The Galaxy S II LTE features a number of upgrades over its non-4G brother, aside from just the faster data connection.
The LTE-equipped edition of the Galaxy S II sports a larger, 4.5-inch, Super AMOLED Plus display, though no mention if whether or not it has the same WVGA (480 x 800 pixel) resolution as its predecessor (for the record, we're guessing it does). The dual-core processor has seen a bump in speed to 1.5GHz, while the battery has been increased in capacity to 1,850mAh. The rear of the Galaxy S II LTE now has a brushed-metal look, different from the textured back of the original. Samsung claims that the Galaxy S II LTE is the world's first LTE/WCDMA/GSM multi-mode smartphone.
Samsung has yet to reveal exact pricing and availability of the new Galaxy S II LTE, but we should know more later on this week."

Drool on what? The glass display and $900 price tag? Pass.
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Lol ill go only if @jkay and @leomar go as well and Samsung promises same number of updates as sgs2, otherwise I'm staying right here.
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What's the word on atnt's gs2 version? Is it tegra or Mali? I wish nvidia had incorporated neon into tegra2
It would've been even more of a beast. And any word if the bootloader on any of the carrier versions going to be unlocked?

I'm guessing this is a Qualcomm model.

Quite possibly a qualcomm if its 1.5. The exynos can go that high but the heat is gratuitous. I don't think its going to ti's omap 4460.
And if it is qualcomm and the 1.5 isn't overclocked already, it could possibly go 2.0. Qualcomm chips are usually good for overclocking and undervolting. And I would have to venture the gpu is going to be adreno220. Does that have neon built in and how does it compare to tegra2?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

Comparison I9500 I9505, I cannot sleep because of this. Help me!

I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.

I would say get I9500. It has better chipset, better audio output. May be, we are getting sources very soon..
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I9500 supports LTE...

Rmansh said:
I9500 supports LTE...
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No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500

Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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dude its obvious you didn't bother to search first....i already put up a link to an excellent video comparing them and answering all your questions....as for sound, just see gsm arena and you'll see that the audio tests for the snapdragon is better in quality to the previous s3 wolfson except for loudness..
USE THE SEARCH BAR OMG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40983466&postcount=1

IMO that is a really personal choice, and in this case, I think there is not an objective right or wrong one. I would chose GT-I9500 due to the wolfston DAC, the higher potential I see in the Exynos and its allegedly better photo quality, since LTE, a little higher prize and the differences in GPU are not as important to me

Madawcisrich said:
No my friend. It is official now...At least, 4G is not enable in I9500
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sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...

Rmansh said:
sammobile said that I9500 supports this all and the reason of using two chips was the product issues...
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A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...

Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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Take the I9500, it is Exynos man !

I have the 9500 sitting right next to me and I ca tell you it does not support LTE unless you get one of the Korean versions which is the only announced Octa with LTE at this time.
IMO get the snapdragon if you can make use of LTE. There are a good number of Octa versus snapdragon comparisons available now and the link the fellow was referring to is only one result. Looking at many results it does appear like the Octa has an advantage in a few areas but it is very small and nothing that appears to be something you would notice in day to day use. I just don't see a lot to hang your hat on with Octa that would be worth trading off LTE and I only did so because I don't have LTE in my area and wont for the foreseeable future so I thought I would give the Octa a spin and see if the better battery life being touted plays out.

Will both have the same number of dev supports?
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No, I think the snapdragon will see quite a bit more support. Won't be an issue with Sammy based ROMs but if you want to go CM and the like that's where it's going to get thin(ner).

Madawcisrich said:
A lot of site said that 1 month ago. Just go to check everywhere now, it doesn't support 4G. samsung just said that the Exynos 5 is compatible with all band, it never said that Galaxy S4 I9500 support 4G and can connect through 4G.
adey64, I have already seen your video since 3 days...It is old information now...
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oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..

adey64 said:
oh i'm sorry then! in that case, you'd probably be interested in cm 10.1 or aosp at some point right? in which case it's an easy choice with the i9505 as the i9500 would be stuck in forever-nightly land due to exynos
btw i think real world gaming adreno 320 was better then the sgx as shown in 3d mark in the pocketnow video? correct me if im wrong..
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Yes, so, I think I will take the snapdragon one, since it is cheaper, gpu performs better, 4G supported, sound quality quiet impressive according to GSMxxxx, siteweb. The only thing who disturbs me is the bad 4 core CPU...Shameful.

Nothing wrong with 4 cores
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hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/

adey64 said:
hope you can sleep now! haha....the krait is a more power efficient (apparently) architecture than the a15's, you're by no means getting a worse device....and did you know the octa core implementation is not well done either...just look here...a clear indication this is new technology yet to be optimized to it's full potential...meaning you'd by no means be making a wrong decision with the i9505
http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/exynos-5-octa-efficency
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/02/samsungs-octa-core-not-as-energy-efficient-as-we-thought/
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Yes I saw that news too. But I have hoped that they will release some driver or patch to solve this problem. But yes, it is a drawback of the I9500 at the moment.
Well Just choose the i9505 from VirginMobile(a french telecommunication service), 15 euros/month subscription, and I pay 399 euros for the phone. It is a quiet good offer. Feel free to give me other advice for the comparison. Thank you

Holy shiit, I will become totally mad of this. I still cannot decide. Both have their advantage and both have drawbacks. I have already ordered the i9505, but really really like the ultime performace of the i9500 cpu and its wolfson sound chipset.
I ordered both but I still can cancel one of them. Any other advice for me so that I can decide quickly without any hesitation? Thank you

Madawcisrich said:
I have been in a terrible situation since the launching day of the galaxy s4. These days, all I have done is to gather all the information concerning these two models. Here is what I found out:
S4 I9500 Exynos 5:
+Excellent CPU performance.
+Excellent Sound chipset.
- Not support 4G
- GPU less performs worth than Adreno 320 (in game and in benchmarks)
- Expensive(in my country, I must import the octa core one from USA for a additionnal 100 euros)
S4 I9505 Snapdragon 600:
+Better GPU
+Support 4G
- sound chipset sounds worth than I9500 Wolfson
-Cpu performs worth than Exynos 5
So I still don't know which one should I get...Samsung is annoying by releasing two differnet models...They know how to make geeks nervous...I haven't slept well for a week. I cannot sleep if I can't decide which one should I get. Since this is a big deal, I must think carefully about it. So Please help me. Thank you in advance.
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look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc

hunhool said:
look at this video,it might help you a bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wt5im3WAZYc
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I have already seen this video a thousand of time. It just shows how good the I9500 CPU is and how good the i9505 GPU is.

Which one do you suggest when buying the S4 .... Snapdragon 600 or Exynos 5 Octa ?

I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance? less lag ?
Which is better for gaming?

Yet another thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7nJQzfWsE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review and make your mind up
~ Taylor_Swift
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an9093 said:
I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance? less lag ?
Which is better for gaming?
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Hi,
Look HERE

That's a no brainer....the Exy. But does anyone really have a choice? Especially in America.

i have a choice they both are available the same price with local warrenty

The exynos here is cheaper online but for me, no 4G = no go. Since buying an S3 4G last year there is no way I can go back to 3G again.
The speed difference is enormous and 4G here costs no more than 3G. And on the Telstra network it's even better. Have hit over 50mbps on speed tests.
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dman777 said:
That's a no brainer....the Exy.
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Except it really isn't.
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4

Over simplifying it the Octacore version is slightly faster but has a poorer battery (4G not withstanding). Snapdragon touch slower (but faster than most phones todsy) but it'll last longer. There are lots of debates on whether the Octacore version ca be improved but this is how it stands right now as the biggest differences.
Other option is Stock version......
-Airax

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Except it really isn't.
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Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.

dman777 said:
Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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You have that a little backwards: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40554113
Also, go and ask any cedarview Atom owners what they think of the PowerVR SGX54x and the driver 'support' it gets. After that fiasco I would never buy another product that has a GPU from Imagination Technologies.

XTCrefugee said:
You have that a little backwards: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40554113
Also, go and ask any cedarview Atom owners what they think of the PowerVR SGX54x and the driver 'support' it gets. After that fiasco I would never buy another product that has a GPU from Imagination Technologies.
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That is interesting. But seeing for myself in that video, it is hard not to believe that the Exy GPU is better.

dman777 said:
Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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I'm still waiting to see what makes the Exynos version a 'no brainer'. Was that it?
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4

Pagnell said:
I'm still waiting to see what makes the Exynos version a 'no brainer'. Was that it?
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4
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Sure, no problem....It was "Exynos takes the edge, ie camera and GPU". You can also watch the video and see...physical proof is nice.

I see. So for someone who needs 4G and has a preference for CM or AOKP the Exynos is still a 'no brainer' simply because it's performance is slightly better on certain benchmarks?
Sent from my Qualcomm Galaxy S4

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????????????

Why are you saying Exynos GPU is better than S600? I saw benchmarks where the Adreno 320 beat the powerVR SGX544 (though benchmarks are sometimes useless ^^)

Exynooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos

ive seen many vids on youtube about the two devices and i gotta say there not a big diffrenet in perfrmance
just get the one that available in your country