Pls can any1 help. i just upgraded my radiostack to v4.21. and now my xda wont load. i get the rom kitchen splash screen, but no lights on even though its in the cradle.
The rom is 4.00.11, but on the screen there is also a g and an r above it??
soft and hard boots do nothing.
Any advice??
Thanks
Hello
So far over thirty views on this post and not one response.
If i have to pay for a fix i will.
It would be nice if someone could help thats all.
PLEASE
Well I've spending most of my time trying to find the thread that has already addressed this issue, but have been unable to locate it.
Anyhow if I remember correctly the thread talked about leaving the unit in the cradle while on until it booted on its own.
HTH
**** you all
am going to buy a sony clie instead.
0ver 60 views and no decent help.
Some people ...
dodgers said:
Subject: **** you all
am going to buy a sony clie instead.
0ver 60 views and no decent help.
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I think you are mistaking this forum for a paid-for support service.
If you look for Radio Stack Upgrades on this forum (or any place else on the net), you would notice lots of things can go wrong during these upgrades. These problems appear to stem from various sources, and there's not one easy solution. Our official advice is never to upgrade the RSU until you really, really, really have to, and know that the upgrade will fix know issues that are bothering you. You would also see your general question has been dealt with in detail many times before, which may be the reason people did not jump to answer your question promptly.
On recovery from RSU problems: many people have claimed success from various rescue methods, whose recipes you will find on this forum if you use the search function. If neither of these help, you'll have to send the unit in for service. Radio upgrade problems really show a main design weakpoint of the XDA. But hey, we didn't design it, and we didn't sell it to you either. We're just assembled here to help ourselves, and as many other people as we can. On behalf of this entire community, I apologize for the fact that we couldn't help you as promptly as is the obvious birthright of someone of your stature.
I can sense you're someone special. You post your problem and expect the perfect answer within 24 hours. If you don't get it, you then top it off by writing a post with subject '**** you all', and say you will buy a Sony Clie instead. Now I could tell interesting stories about something which Sony calls 'customer support', but I will not. Our world is a better place if you buy a Clie, and yours may be too. I'm sure many people on this forum would be more than happy to provide suggestions as to what to do with your old XDA.
No I do not think im special, nor do i think this is a "pay for fix" service.
I received my xda prior to release as my company writes software for the XDA. I have been reviewing this forum since it first started, when the only way to get round the sim-lock was to force a software error.
Yes things have progressed...a great deal, and it is by far the best xda site on the web. I recommend this site daily to associates and clients daily,
but it would also seem that some people have a "greater than thou" elitest attitude, and ignore any post which does not challenge their supreme intellect.
I would have been more than happy with a simple "go to this thread" rather than being passed over because my problem is not interesting.
I fly to Saudi on Tuesday, so if anyone wants a mint xda with cradle. then you can have it for free.
If anyone also wants the IPR for xda software that will make them alot of money then let me know. The concept has been tested and the IBM labs in Winchester have agreed to lend any equipment required.
Regardless of your sarcastic undertones, thank for for at least posting a reply.
HI friends I am looking for a ROM for my ORANGE SPV3100 with preinstalled theft alert system. I have lost one PDA in which I installed a theft alert software but as the thief might have hard reset the device before using it the whole protection failed. Somebody told me to have a customized ROM with theft protection software pre-installed in it. So that even in case the thief hard-reset I should be able to get the alert. I need Your help seniors & friends as that would save a lot of money & a dear PDA from getting lost in wrong hands.
Regards
Saksham Katyal
PS:I am using official Orange SPV 3100 ROM of APRIL 2007. Is there an way of putting that software in to it.
55views but not a single reply.. No offence but is it so hard that people finding it so hard to reply on thia novel concept. Anyway still looking for replies from seniors & techiesss...
Here, I'll reply.
I have no idea.
That's probably what the other 55 views were thinking, too. No point posting, "I dunno" posts really, is there?
I suspect that the reason there is no one posting is because usually that anti-theft type software isn't free, so if people were to put it into their cooked ROM's and post it online, it would be illegal.
Your best bet would be to purchase the software and cook it into your own ROM (without redistributing it). I could be wrong however, so correct me if i am
i also want to add theft protection to mine in the same manor as you described, are there any guides on how to do this?
just dumping into extended rom?
Simple anti theft protection
It is hard-reset resistive and even resistant to after_theft_new_rom_download procedure:
- you need small single paper where you write your IMEI number and police phone number and keep it secure.
-in case your PDA is stolen, take out your small peace of paper, call police number and give them IMEI from your stolen PDA.
Police together with mobile providers is usually locating SIM-card users of stolen mobiles in no more than one day after switching on.
Mentioned procedure is under GPL so you can use it and spread it anywhere and anytime.
Thanx all of You people for Your views but I have purchased a software for this & I want to put it in to my ROM. Thats what I wanna know if there is anybody who can do it for me. I believe in buying something instead of cracking it & using it illegal but on the other hand I am concerned about my hard earned money going in to hell. May I know seniors if anybody there who knows how to do this trick. I will be very thankful to You as this would increase my faith in XDA.Forum capabilities of standing with good ideas & techniques. Cheers
Regards
Saksham Katyal
sakshamkatyal said:
Thanx all of You people for Your views but I have purchased a software for this & I want to put it in to my ROM. Thats what I wanna know if there is anybody who can do it for me. I believe in buying something instead of cracking it & using it illegal but on the other hand I am concerned about my hard earned money going in to hell. May I know seniors if anybody there who knows how to do this trick. I will be very thankful to You as this would increase my faith in XDA.Forum capabilities of standing with good ideas & techniques. Cheers
Regards
Saksham Katyal
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learn to cook (it is not hard today with the pandora kitchen)
purchase or get the soft, make OEM package of it,
cook it with Pandora and you good
if you want other skilled people to do it customized for you rom you should offer a price you prepare to pay to this skilled people
do it yourself or be willing to pay for service (customized only for you) or to ask someone to make you a favor ,
you are asking for a favor
good luck
edward
@edward-riko, Thanx for Your valuable suggestion. May I know which is the most easiest way of doing the things You have mentioned here. I mean any software that can help me putting that software in to that ROM. This is not something of my concern rather the kind of response once You will have this kind of ROM is going to be enormous. I believe there is one .NBH file which contains everything. Plz guide me as to its making & other requirements & any wrong consequences for my PDA with that self cooked ROM. Looking for Your reply.
Regards
Saksham Katyal
I don't know if that will help but I remember about 1,5 year ago on the buzzdev forum (http://buzzdev.net) one guy posted a thread about a software that will read the phonenumber from the SIM in case it is changed and it will SMS it to a predefined number, revealing in that way the number of the thief. The developer required a personal request for this in order to hard code the license in the software that would be purchased. Don't remember price. (Search on the Himalaya 2005 section)
OK,
I could understand griping at me if I just came here saying "Hay guise! I'm too
lazy to spend any time doing research and finding out how to do this on my
ownz. Could somebody just spoonfeed me something they spent hours
learning how to do?"
If that were the case I would deserve much scorn and derision but perhaps
you might hear my explanation and perchance give me a little help.
I recently bought an HTC Vogue that was sold to the original buyer through
Sprint. I have Cricket. Since I previously had an account with Sprint I thought
I could set one up again but no, they turned me down, don't know exactly
why.
I was buying the phone to replace my Sanyo that was going off the deep end
and thought I would learn to unlock/flash the new one over to Cricket on my
own. Much time was spent joining forums, reading conflicting advice and
gnashing my teeth. Then, joy of joys, the Sanyo craters all together and I
now have no connectivity at all. To worsen matters my cell line is how I get
business, being a handyman and I many people are reluctant to hire someone
who doesn't answer their phone. So, much to my consternation, I desperately
need to get my Vogue working on the Cricket network. I have the Vogue's
ESN registered as the phone on my account now and the guy was kind
enough to provide me with the min, mdn and SID numbers when I went in
to do the changeover but that's all I gots.
I have seen too many pages of data telling me the alleged definitive way to
get not only my voice service working on Cricket, but text, SMS, web AND
GPS as well but I am reluctant to try any of them because I can ill afford to
buy another phone because I bricked this one. Nor do I want to pay someone
to do it for me when I know that given the right info, I can do it myself.
I know it is stupid to lose business because I want to flash my own phone but
surely many of you out there feel the same way.
Here's what I am asking. Can a few of you kindhearted folks point me to the
ultimate and definitive guide to getting all of my services working on the
Cricket network? I really have put in a lot of search time but all I can say for
certain is that I believe that xda Devs is the site that is my best shot.
I would be very grateful if someone could help, I have also seen evidence of
many people saying that Android is the way to go instead of WM but I have
no idea if I should just stay with Windows Mobile 6, upgrade to a newer one
or switch to Android much less if I should make a change before or after I
flash the phone to Cricket. Uggggghhh.
Please good sirs (and ladies?) thy help would be most fortuitous at this
juncture.
Thanks in advance,
Tex
Adden-dumb
It looks like I figured out that since the phone was an insurance
replacement that it has Windows Mobile 6.1 on it, that solves
one riddle for me.
I've seen very few guides to doing this..and most of them from rather untrustworthy sites.
Basically because I believe the same information can be used to CLONE a cell phone, stealing someone else's service.
I'm afraid that's not of much help to you, but I looked into it once before, and was told basically unless the provider was willing to program it for me, it would be very difficult to do.
You have to change the ESN to the one of the Sanyo... which is illegal afaik
I have been using the xda developers website for YEARS ( from after getting my first T-Mobile SDA ) and theres always been at least ONE superhero to develop a cool method or utility to unlock these phones...
...WELL! the HD2 is here and now I need a another champion to step forward and crack this thing because I own a T-mobile HD2 purchased off ebay and I cant unlock this thing no matter how hard I try. Every website I have used has FAILED and I cannot believe that these websites know something about this phone that the XDA developer gurus do not.
This website has NEVER let me down before....and I know that unlockers dont appear overnight, but it would just be reassuring to know at least one of these people is on the case.
If you are reading this and thinking "why dont you do it?" alas, I lack the sheer awesomeness necessary to develop such things.
I am reading this thinking "cant you read and/or use the search functionality?"
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okay, was that sarcasm or what? I have not seen any such unlocker mentioned in this forum or any other.
Please provide link to thread if you know of one.
Begging for such things is not a favourite pastime of mine so if you know, please show.
If there was a better tool to do it WITHOUT generating any codes, then people wouldn't have been discussing those sites in that topic, would they be?
You'll have to keep trying with unlock websites. You'll need that code.
BLAST3RR said:
If there was a better tool to do it WITHOUT generating any codes, then people wouldn't have been discussing those sites in that topic, would they be?
You'll have to keep trying with unlock websites. You'll need that code.
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This...
I read something positive about http://www.htcgate.com/. Perhaps that one helps/works.
What are you trying to do exactly?
Network-unlock the phone so you can use any provider with it?
Unlock the device so that you can use any ROM from any country on it?
Maybe if you were a bit clearer with your request you would have got a better answer from me. Just because you know what you are on about when you are typing a post doesn't mean anyone else does!
Okay, perhaps I wasnt clear. What I was after was a sim unlocking method/utility to aid myself and others in similar circumstances of having purchased a locked HD2 only to be suffering a nightmare unlocking it.
I started this thread in really light-hearted fashion and now it doesnt appear to be going that way. Anyways my personal nightmare has ended as I emailed the hell out of the guy that sold this to me and he emailed me the unlock code so job done.
I still think its worthwhile for someone to develop a method/tool for the job and wish any others suffering this hell the best of luck.
BTW: if your locked HD2 is one from T-Mobile save your money and avoid the following sites:
"unlock codes 2u" FAIL
"HTCGate" FAIL
"leo.unlock-now" FAIL
"Unlock now" FAIL
"Unlock-it-now" FAIL
I have the same problem with hd2 locked on o2, no one is able to remove simlock. At least o2 itself provides unlock codes if you ask them, but I'm still waiting for the code....
I just searched HD2 on ebay, and found THIS.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Windows-Phone-7...ell_Phones&hash=item35b0189863#ht_4192wt_1139
Unbelievable.
These people are selling MANUALS comprised of probably everything found on XDA on how to flash the HD2 to run Windows Phone 7.
Taking people's hard work on this forum, and selling it for a profit.
Omg .. over 300 Sold ?!
And $25 ?!
$25 x 300 = $7500 ?
Reported the seller
Edit:
7500 not 750
My bad .
Cool, may give that a go myself , right little earner
Seriously though, why do people keep making these topics? We know that people are selling the info on ebay, they are even selling a flashing service, its nothing new and has been happening for years.
The people who buy these services/product are generally the people who NEED to buy them because they cant use "search" buttons or google etc so simply dont have the mental capcity to use XDA or flash tehir phone and if somebody can earn some money while providing that service I say good on them, may do it myself (joke, have no need to).
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Cool, may give that a go myself , right little earner
Seriously though, why do people keep making these topics? We know that people are selling the info on ebay, they are even selling a flashing service, its nothing new and has been happening for years.
The people who buy these services/product are general-ly the people who NEED to buy them because they can use "search" buttons or google etc so simply dont have the mental capcity to use XDA or flash tehir phone and if somebody can earn some money while providing that service I say good on them, may do it myself (joke, have no need to).
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lol .. That is just awesome,
Comment of the day
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that fella TheATHEiST has right.
Net is really huge place, (at lesst it is extremley huge virtual place, even it ficically might be small as one average appartement), and google has potential to give You informtation on any subject one might need. So if someone has no will, knowledge, patience, and again will to do it why not earn some money on that one.
All guys here are doing their best to make manuals, explaining flashing procedures, breewing their own tastes of winmo, android, or anything else. And there is smartass that do not wish to read these posts carefully, and do it on his own.
So be it, if he has enough money let the people do it for money. After all, do not we all live for money, and from money?
TheATHEiST said:
Cool, may give that a go myself , right little earner
Seriously though, why do people keep making these topics? We know that people are selling the info on ebay, they are even selling a flashing service, its nothing new and has been happening for years.
The people who buy these services/product are generally the people who NEED to buy them because they cant use "search" buttons or google etc so simply dont have the mental capcity to use XDA or flash tehir phone and if somebody can earn some money while providing that service I say good on them, may do it myself (joke, have no need to).
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that fella TheATHEiST has right.
Net is really huge place, (at lesst it is extremley huge virtual place, even it ficically might be small as one average appartement), and google has potential to give You informtation on any subject one might need. So if someone has no will, knowledge, patience, and again will to do it why not earn some money on that one.
All guys here are doing their best to make manuals, explaining flashing procedures, breewing their own tastes of winmo, android, or anything else. And there is smartass that do not wish to read these posts carefully, and do it on his own.
So be it, if he has enough money let the people do it for money. After all, do not we all live for money, and from money?
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I totally disagree, people that are doing things such as this are takinv advantage of someone elses hard work. The Devs that make the ROMs, HSPL, and MAGLD put alot of hours of hard thought and sleepless nights into developing thrir software. If they are kind enough to do this and not demand payment from others to use their work yhen what gives anyone else the right to charge people to install it for them. Yes there is people out there that are too lazy or too mentaly challenged to use google, or search XDA. But people offering this kind of service is just a further henderance to them and XDA. By offering these services to people lile that it is allowing them to be complaciant and not learn to think for themselves. People in general now days do not know hpw to think for themselves cause society has taught them they don't have to someone else will. If people were required to actually use their on brain power we as a society will grow and people might actually see that the way the world is and operates is not as normal and needed as we all think. As far as money goes yes we all have to have money to live but this is a vice of our own making. Money is not a natural accurring thing, it is not a real resource. It at the core of degrodation of our society and us as a race.
I'm out of work and skint maybe i need to do something like this to get myself a few quid just joking id never do anything like that,eBay need to take this down ASAP.
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Omg .. over 300 Sold ?!
And $25 ?!
$25 x 300 = $750 ?
Reported the seller
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you got your math wrong.... that guy has made more than $7500!!! I can't believe so many have sold for that much money!
ahum kuch kuch $7500
At this point he has sold 446 of them... most for $25. So he's made over $10,000 in less than a week, I think. Ridiculous. I wonder if he even donated to the devs.
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Seriously though, why do people keep making these topics? We know that people are selling the info on ebay, they are even selling a flashing service, its nothing new and has been happening for years.
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Well, flashing service is fine, because you're lazy to do it yourself so you pay someone else to do the work for you.
There's other topics on this?
I didn't know.
I searched!
T-Macgnolia said:
I totally disagree, people that are doing things such as this are takinv advantage of someone elses hard work. The Devs that make the ROMs, HSPL, and MAGLD put alot of hours of hard thought and sleepless nights into developing thrir software. If they are kind enough to do this and not demand payment from others to use their work yhen what gives anyone else the right to charge people to install it for them. Yes there is people out there that are too lazy or too mentaly challenged to use google, or search XDA. But people offering this kind of service is just a further henderance to them and XDA. By offering these services to people lile that it is allowing them to be complaciant and not learn to think for themselves. People in general now days do not know hpw to think for themselves cause society has taught them they don't have to someone else will. If people were required to actually use their on brain power we as a society will grow and people might actually see that the way the world is and operates is not as normal and needed as we all think. As far as money goes yes we all have to have money to live but this is a vice of our own making. Money is not a natural accurring thing, it is not a real resource. It at the core of degrodation of our society and us as a race.
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^ That is exactly what I'm talking about, and my feeling and thought when I started this thread!!
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Well, flashing service is fine, because you're lazy to do it yourself so you pay someone else to do the work for you.
There's other topics on this?
I didn't know.
I searched!
^ That is exactly what I'm talking about, and my feeling and thought when I started this thread!!
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have you made a pm to the mods? Ask them too what is the stand of the community in this regard.
T-Macgnolia said:
I totally disagree, people that are doing things such as this are takinv advantage of someone elses hard work. The Devs that make the ROMs, HSPL, and MAGLD put alot of hours of hard thought and sleepless nights into developing thrir software. If they are kind enough to do this and not demand payment from others to use their work yhen what gives anyone else the right to charge people to install it for them. Yes there is people out there that are too lazy or too mentaly challenged to use google, or search XDA. But people offering this kind of service is just a further henderance to them and XDA. By offering these services to people lile that it is allowing them to be complaciant and not learn to think for themselves. People in general now days do not know hpw to think for themselves cause society has taught them they don't have to someone else will. If people were required to actually use their on brain power we as a society will grow and people might actually see that the way the world is and operates is not as normal and needed as we all think. As far as money goes yes we all have to have money to live but this is a vice of our own making. Money is not a natural accurring thing, it is not a real resource. It at the core of degrodation of our society and us as a race.
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Look dude that argument is totally rediculous and has nothing to do with the price of fish.
These guys are not sellling the "ROMS" if they was that would be different, What they are selling is a collection of knowledge and/or a service.
By your logic you couldnt provide support service or collection of knowledge for linux!!
This is basically exactly the same as going out and buying a book on linux or paying somebody to install/setup linux for you, Its 100% the same in EVERY aspect since all the info you need is freely available on the net already same as THIS is.
Again, Nobody is selling the Devs work they are selling a service or info. For example I have my own webhosting business renting/setting up dedicated servers but I am a n00b when it comes to linux so I pay other people to do it for me. I know I can get this info on the net for free but I cant be bothered and simply get somebody else to do it.
PS. Did you ever think that it could even be Devs that are doing some of these ebay sales??
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Look dude that argument is totally rediculous and has nothing to do with the price of fish.
These guys are not sellling the "ROMS" if they was that would be different, What they are selling is a collection of knowledge and/or a service.
By your logic you couldnt provide support service or collection of knowledge for linux!!
This is basically exactly the same as going out and buying a book on linux or paying somebody to install/setup linux for you, Its 100% the same in EVERY aspect since all the info you need is freely available on the net already same as THIS is.
Again, Nobody is selling the Devs work they are selling a service or info. For example I have my own webhosting business renting/setting up dedicated servers but I am a n00b when it comes to linux so I pay other people to do it for me. I know I can get this info on the net for free but I cant be bothered and simply get somebody else to do it.
PS. Did you ever think that it could even be Devs that are doing some of these ebay sales??
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Ok first of nobody said anything about fish, where did that come from?
Secound yes this is just the selling of a collection of information. But there is plenty others out there that are actually selling the ROMs. These sites have people ship their HD2 to them and install the ROM's for tbem, this is true with Android ROMs and WP7 ROMs. This doesn't take into account for the people that don't even have a website but are just local people that are charging people to do this. Not to long someone in the T-mobile forums posted about a guy that was doing it in Hawaii and charging like a hundred bucks a pop. So you see no matter if it is the selling of the info on how to do it or the selling of the Actually ROMs and installation services. This is a total fleecing of people. Best example is this, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a liftime. If you learn it yourself and do the research yourself it is much more fullfilling.
As for your suggestion about my logic and it not being right to provide support for Linux. You totally miss uderstood my point. This is not what I am trying to say. What I am trying to say is that poeple have become too lazy and brain dead to do things for themselfs anymore. This is why people selling books and offering services do so well. I mean yeah it is easier let someone else do the work or gather the info for you but if you do these things yourself then you have a much better working knowledge and comprehention of it. That is one of the reasons for open source projects so everyone can benefit from it, gain knowledge from it, and maybe even help improve it. You youself said you are a noob to Linux and can't be bothered by it. If you did the research and work then you wouldn't have to pay someone to do it for you but yet you don't want to envest the time to do it. So this is a fault of your own. Now yes I know life is hecktic andit is sometimes hard to find the time to do such things but stop and think everyone always seems to find time to go to the moviesor watch a TV show. So you see if a persontruly wants something they will make time for it just as they make time to do other activities that want to do if it is truly important to them.
No I had not thought about it might be a dev selling these guides and stuff but to be honest if it was I truly beleive they would plainly state this fact to everyone. Cause this would help sell the product. So I truly doubt it is a dec.
Every time someone posts a link to these sales, they're just drumming up free advertising for the seller.
Don't like what he's doing? DO NOT LINK TO THE SALE.
Grats on putting money in his pocket.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok first of nobody said anything about fish, where did that come from?
Secound yes this is just the selling of a collection of information. But there is plenty others out there that are actually selling the ROMs. These sites have people ship their HD2 to them and install the ROM's for tbem, this is true with Android ROMs and WP7 ROMs. This doesn't take into account for the people that don't even have a website but are just local people that are charging people to do this. Not to long someone in the T-mobile forums posted about a guy that was doing it in Hawaii and charging like a hundred bucks a pop. So you see no matter if it is the selling of the info on how to do it or the selling of the Actually ROMs and installation services. This is a total fleecing of people. Best example is this, give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a liftime. If you learn it yourself and do the research yourself it is much more fullfilling.
As for your suggestion about my logic and it not being right to provide support for Linux. You totally miss uderstood my point. This is not what I am trying to say. What I am trying to say is that poeple have become too lazy and brain dead to do things for themselfs anymore. This is why people selling books and offering services do so well. I mean yeah it is easier let someone else do the work or gather the info for you but if you do these things yourself then you have a much better working knowledge and comprehention of it. That is one of the reasons for open source projects so everyone can benefit from it, gain knowledge from it, and maybe even help improve it. You youself said you are a noob to Linux and can't be bothered by it. If you did the research and work then you wouldn't have to pay someone to do it for you but yet you don't want to envest the time to do it. So this is a fault of your own. Now yes I know life is hecktic andit is sometimes hard to find the time to do such things but stop and think everyone always seems to find time to go to the moviesor watch a TV show. So you see if a persontruly wants something they will make time for it just as they make time to do other activities that want to do if it is truly important to them.
No I had not thought about it might be a dev selling these guides and stuff but to be honest if it was I truly beleive they would plainly state this fact to everyone. Cause this would help sell the product. So I truly doubt it is a dec.
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people sending the HD2 to the person and getting it back flashed with WP7 or Android is selling a flashing service along with expertise, it is not selling the ROM, the only way this would be illegal or immoral is if they guy knew how to flash the ROM but did not know where the ROM was and someone said "I'll sell you the download link" or something like that, otherwise this is totally legit. Jailbreaking an iPhone takes 5 seconds in some cases and in most less than 10 minutes, yet people charge out the ass for it.
It is totally legit and I don't see any devs complaining about it, it's actually a smart way to make some spare change.
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people sending the HD2 to the person and getting it back flashed with WP7 or Android is selling a flashing service along with expertise, it is not selling the ROM, the only way this would be illegal or immoral is if they guy knew how to flash the ROM but did not know where the ROM was and someone said "I'll sell you the download link" or something like that, otherwise this is totally legit. Jailbreaking an iPhone takes 5 seconds in some cases and in most less than 10 minutes, yet people charge out the ass for it.
It is totally legit and I don't see any devs complaining about it, it's actually a smart way to make some spare change.
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Ok guys I am sorry I am just the kind of person that does not like paying someone to do something I can do myself. I was taught as a mid growing up that knowledge is valuable and that a person that will put forth an effort to learn and do for themself is to be respected. I have always strived to learn things for myself and do things myself. Because of this I have become quit knowledgeable in several different fields including my career as a Electrician. I have learned how to fix my own cars, do repairs to my own house, bow to grow ny own food, generate my own electricity, how to mantain and for the most part solve software problems on my computer, and know I am learning all I can about the HD2 I have. You se I beleive in people being dependant as much as posible on themselves. But sadly this is not the case of our modern society.
Now as for it not being legit I still say no it is not because for them to even be able to gather the information on how to install Andriod or WP7 and then creat and sell a guide on it. the devs had to figure out how to do this and share this information for free with everyone else. Also to provide a installation service they have to utilize sofrtwarw such as HSPL and MAGLD both of wich were created by DFT. This software is not copy righted and is not sold. So in both cases they are selling something they put no real work into except for some reading and reasearch. If they had to perchase such softeare are information and then use such information and software to make money to me that wiuld be more exceptable. Also they are selling the ROMs cause without the ROMs they can not perform such services therefor the ROMs are part of the services that they are selling. Yes it is a good way to make some spare money but it is not moral to me, and they are doing more than making spare money they are making a killing.
If the devs or not complaining then I do not know why I can not speak for them. But if I was a dev I would be complaining and complaining big time.
It's not hard to rationalize this at all.
If people are dumb enough to ebay a manual on how to flash WP7/android onto their HD2, then they deserve to get ripped off for something they can do for free.
The only thing people can do is report the seller.
Went through some other products of his, he's selling the "software to unlock/jailbreak your iPhone". Hats off to him, he's a smart guy. Oh and he's made $12100 and counting.
Yeah I can not believe how much money he has made, it's amazing selling something so simple. And I agree with the post above comparing the sale to purchasing a manual on installing linux, the info is available for free but most people find it easier to read a how-to when going about it.