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A couple of things happened last night. Anyone else experience these?
I went into the market and was presented with a grid of 16 apps, and that's it. I can click on the apps and install them, but searching revealed no more apps nor could I get to the main app market home page or menu.
I attempted to close the market app under settings, applications, manage applications, running services.
The problem? It was empty too. So was the list of installed applications. According to Android, I had nothing installed.
Rebooting fixed this issue, but I don't know what caused it.
Second interesting thing. One of the first apps I installed was the CNN app with the widget. I thought it was a pretty neat widget to have on the home screen. Over the next few days I noticed lag. Keyboard lag, browser lag, app drawer, etc. Just about everywhere. Last night I removed the CNN widget and guess what, lag vanished. I don't know if it's the widget or just a coincidence but thought I would share.
Sirchuk said:
A couple of things happened last night. Anyone else experience these?
I went into the market and was presented with a grid of 16 apps, and that's it. I can click on the apps and install them, but searching revealed no more apps nor could I get to the main app market home page or menu.
I attempted to close the market app under settings, applications, manage applications, running services.
The problem? It was empty too. So was the list of installed applications. According to Android, I had nothing installed.
Rebooting fixed this issue, but I don't know what caused it.
Second interesting thing. One of the first apps I installed was the CNN app with the widget. I thought it was a pretty neat widget to have on the home screen. Over the next few days I noticed lag. Keyboard lag, browser lag, app drawer, etc. Just about everywhere. Last night I removed the CNN widget and guess what, lag vanished. I don't know if it's the widget or just a coincidence but thought I would share.
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I have had some weirdness with the CNN widget. For no apparent reason, it would disappear from my screen but would really still be there, just invisible because I could not add another widget in that spot. Rebooting corrected it the few times it has happened. I noticed they released an update today (or yesterday) so I installed it and hopefully that will take care of it.
Same problem here. I even tried to remove the invisible CNN widget but couldn't. Restarting the Xoom seems to fix it but hate to keep doing that all the time it disappears on me. Needs to be fixed soon
Hi All,
Now that most people have installed the OTA KitKat and knowing that this will be the last update Motorola makes for our phones, I thought it would be a good idea to make a collection of all the system bloatware that came with the OTA that is able to be removed safely without affecting the performance or running of the phone (either frozen or deleted for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and already rooted). Lord knows I have been waiting a long long time to delete these apps and not just have them frozen! I'll keep a running list in the second post, hopefully in alphabetical order, as people post up any that I have forgotten about or didn't think of.
Again, this is just a list of everything that is safe to remove if people don't use the apps / functions, not necessarily things that have to be removed.
...there's nothing like freeing up memory and RAM 8)
EDIT: The hard ones to pick out are gonna be all the "com.***" ones since they're not quite as self-explanatory...
List of bloat:
- Amazon
- Amazon App Suite
- Amazon Kindle
- Amazon mp3
- Android Keyboard (AOSP)
- Android Live Wallpapers
- Audible
- Black Hole
- Bubbles
- Calculator
- Calendar
- Circles
- Cloud
- Cloud Print - thanks @jldr
- Droid Zap
- Email
- Face Unlock
- Google Play Books
- Google Play Games
- Google Play Movies & TV
- Google Play Newstand
- Google Search - thanks @Sefirosu
- Hangouts
- Help - thanks @scobywhru
- Homescreen Tips
- HP Print Service Plugin - thanks @jldr
- IMDb
- Live Wallpaper Picker
- Magic Smoke Wallpapers
- Maps - thanks @Sefirosu
- MC3
- Messaging
- Movie Studio
- Music Visualization Wallpapers
- NFL Mobile - thanks @jldr
- Phase Beam
- Quickoffice
- RealRacing2
- Setup 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.0 - thanks @scobywhru
- Setup Wizard 1.3 - thanks @scobywhru
- Slacker Radio
- SmartActions
- SmartActions Android Framework
- SmartActions Proprietary Framework
- Talkback
- Translate
- Verizon Tones
- VZ Navigator
- Weather
- YouTube
- Zappos
Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?
jldr said:
Calculator, Youtube, Live Wallpaper?
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Like I said, they are removable but some people will want to keep them. Personally I keep the YouTube, but use a scientific calculator app and don't use live wallpaper.
Ah I see, I didn't think those were removable. I thought they were system apps.
You're right, they are system apps, but can be frozen and for those of us lucky enough to be unlocked and rooted on KK they can be deleted (using TiBu or some other method). Everything listed above is considered a "system app". But, the list is not comprehensive.
That's why I was looking for input for some of the more not-as-obviously-named removable apps. I know there was a list floating around somewhere, I had a bunch of stuff frozen from that list whilst on JB. But now that our phones are not going to be updated any further (and if there is a surprise update that comes to us, we can put the phones back to "stock" using SamuriHL's RSD Lite scripts), I'd like to delete them permanently.
Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking
Guys, I'm sorry to crash this thread, I'm locked and on 9.18.64. Since your all rooted and unlocked, I was wondering if anyone of you would be willing to give SamuriHl a freshly installed and rooted system dump using the safestrap method he outlines in the KitKat root tracking thread? I'd like to be a guinea pig for this one chance root experiment. That's the only missing piece ATM.
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Just an update - I was able to safely remove the all-important NFL Mobile app without hardbricking
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Ah, yes. How could I miss that one. Added, thanks!
Would love to help @MarcusWhite but I do not have SS installed. I also am a pretty big noob about these things, I can'do much past rooting/unlocking/custom ROMs.
Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.
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Also I found another bloatware - HP Printer Service or whatever it's called.
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Good call, I forgot all the wifi printer apps!
Updated the list with some others that I found as well (Email, Hangouts, Messaging, Music Visualization Wallpapers, etc.) All can be safely removed, but make sure you have another method for emailing or texting, lol
Freeze bloatware
K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.
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K, I was able to freeze the bloatware using my unrooted 4.4.2.
I went into each apps settings (long press the icon, app info). Then I cleared the "Show notifications" check, Force stop, then Disable. After that the offending apps weren't showing up under the app screen.
If you go to Play store, you'll find them listed as "Disabled".
Hope this helps some, and keep up the good fight for Root access with this update.
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Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.
I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.
Sefirosu said:
I have removed and disabled the google search app without any negative issues to the rom.
I don't use it as I find myself using my personal browser more than the useless google app. Plus no google now push. However, it does remove the search bar, but doesn't break the roms ability to search from an up swipe from the dock using a browser with search functions, or another search app.
You can also freeze google maps along with its companion app without issue.
You should also consider putting a list of apps not to mess with this time around. This is because a few system apps have become more vital in the rom.
For instance, Google Play Services was able to be disabled and removed without reinstalling automatically in Jelly Bean, but it can no longer be frozen or deleted as it will seriously mess up the google play store with it's recent update in kitkat.
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Thanks! They've been added to the list.
The "do not touch" app list sounds like a good idea, but I was thinking of just leaving it as whatever isn't listed in post #2 shouldn't be touched
LifeAsADroid said:
Sigh... Please don't spam this thread with posts about root on stock KK. If you don't have it by now, get used to not having it on this phone EVER.
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Haha. How do you like your crow prepared? Despite the fact that root and unlock is now available again for a short time, anyway, I think he was showing how there is some freeze ability without root with this update.
With that said, I can't find acoustic warning in tibu, is it now called something else? I can't stand the auto volume drop when I hook to my truck radio.
Update: nvm. Its no longer standalone. Its in android os. You have to use xposed to disable it.
Something I killed in this list removed my speech to text capability. The microphone icon is gone from the keyboard when texting. Any idea what did it?
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If I had to guess, I'd say it was removing Google search that did the trick. That's when mine disappeared anyway. I rarely use the option so it didn't bother me too much. If you haven't uninstalled Google search, then you should just be able to verify Google voice typing is enabled. If that doesn't do it, you might also have to long press the button to the left of the space bar and assign the mic to that key.
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I think you can add
Help
Home Screen Tips
You can add the following as well since they aren't needed once you setup the device.
Setup 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 4.4.2-10
Setup Wizard 1.3
Setup Wizard 1.0
OK, I'll bite. It seems I'm only able to freeze bloatware. I try uninstalling w/ TBU, but they're all still there. Since I don't see any reason to have to restore them for an OTA, I'd just like to get rid of them.
The update is from 4/17.
1) The new widget can now take you to only the Steps item. No longer can you tap on different parts of the widget and go to the main app, Steps, or Heart Rate.
2) The S-Cover S-Health widget no longer works properly. You have to open the cover, unlock the phone, then you can close the cover and use the widget.
WTH?!
I definately don't like the new s-health update. You have to add the other programs to the bottom of the home page.
I stop using shealth when I got my fitbit surge, but I do wish I could sync my fitbit with shealth
The only things that I use s-health for is the occasional pulse check and to check the UV. If it wasn't for that, I'd have killed it a long time ago, just so the phone would stop incessantly reminding me to turn on the stupid pedometer that I have absolutely no use for. I have a fitbit one, but even if I didn't, I sure wouldn't go everywhere with my phone attached to me.
I'm so angry at Samsung. This new update is the completely reworked version with the material design. But they couldn't wait a few weeks to fix the bugs, they had to rush it out.
I forgot to mention, there's now no audio cues to indicate if the heart rate monitor is finished with a measurement. Grrrr!
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The only things that I use s-health for is the occasional pulse check and to check the UV. If it wasn't for that, I'd have killed it a long time ago, just so the phone would stop incessantly reminding me to turn on the stupid pedometer that I have absolutely no use for. I have a fitbit one, but even if I didn't, I sure wouldn't go everywhere with my phone attached to me.
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That's really annoying. Maybe try turning pedometer on and off?
You can not turn off the pedometer in the new update to S-Health. Can pause it but not turn it off.
I wonder if I can rollback s-health to a point where I can shut it off. The pedometer notification comes up. I swipe it away and 15 minutes later, it's back. I'm never going to use the damned pedometer. I should be able to kill the notification.
Yep, I'm hating it as well. I can't launch the heartrate monitor from the widget, and I really liked the transparent widgets. Theres no reason why those options couldn't have been included in the update. Post a review and complaint like everyone else in the google play store.. maybe they'll rethink and fix the damned thing's functionality.
No carbs in food summary
The feature that I least like about the new S-Health is that a total carb count in no longer shown at the food summary - just calories. I keep un-installing the new "update" and reverting back to the green S-Health version that shows the carb count at the summary. I turned off auto-updated in Google play but the new version still reloads every couple of days.
I have the mid alpha 2 and wish shealth would sync with it. But I know that Samsung would never do that as they want you to buy their own smartwatch.
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The feature that I least like about the new S-Health is that a total carb count in no longer shown at the food summary - just calories. I keep un-installing the new "update" and reverting back to the green S-Health version that shows the carb count at the summary. I turned off auto-updated in Google play but the new version still reloads every couple of days.
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Make sure you have the auto update turned off in the Samsung app store as well.
Chuck_IV said:
Make sure you have the auto update turned off in the Samsung app store as well.
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How do you do that? Not seeing that on the built in version of apps on the Note with the Lollipop update.
There have been some S-Health updates since, and it is keeping getting better and better
Widgets have also been updated.
I discovered that the Brief app was not working on my T-Mobile Galaxy S7 Edge. The little loading circle icon would just go round-n-round and nothing would happen. I could not access Brief in the App Manager but I did find it in the Google Play Store. But you can't update or uninstall it. I left an unfavorable review and I heard back today from Samsung tech support. Apparently there is a bug in that app and they are working on it. Just a heads up in case anyone is having the same issue as I am.
I turned mine off and I don't like to use it. However I tried it to help you out and see if it's a problem with the app. I experience the same thing you did. So you are not alone.
Started working for me all I did was flip back and forth a couple of times.
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I discovered that the Brief app was not working on my T-Mobile Galaxy S7 Edge. The little loading circle icon would just go round-n-round and nothing would happen. I could not access Brief in the App Manager but I did find it in the Google Play Store. But you can't update or uninstall it. I left an unfavorable review and I heard back today from Samsung tech support. Apparently there is a bug in that app and they are working on it. Just a heads up in case anyone is having the same issue as I am.
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Yup had the same problem, it seems an update in play store has taken care of it. Now its working perfectly.
unixman2000 said:
I discovered that the Brief app was not working on my T-Mobile Galaxy S7 Edge. The little loading circle icon would just go round-n-round and nothing would happen. I could not access Brief in the App Manager but I did find it in the Google Play Store. But you can't update or uninstall it. I left an unfavorable review and I heard back today from Samsung tech support. Apparently there is a bug in that app and they are working on it. Just a heads up in case anyone is having the same issue as I am.
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Brief finally started working today...I didn't update it or anything but I did turn the phone off/on. At least Flipboard was pretty quick about fixing the bug. The funny thing is the full Flipboard app lets you choose way more news categories to subscribe to then Brief. Maybe I'll just turn off Brief and just use the full app.
This happened to me when I got the phone on Tuesday. It fixed itself just like yours did. And also like you, I found that it isn't nearly as good as the full app, so I turned it off.
So it looks like there are many people having issues with the battery optimization feature, which lets me guess oneplus is already aware of the problem. My question is if there is a way to disable the optimization completely for now until oneplus has sorted things out.
Since the last update it is so aggressive, it kills youtube's connection to my chromecast every few minutes, rendering all control features unuseable as I always have to reconnect before I can do anything. This also makes my wearOS watch unuseable as it also depends on the phone keeping the connections alive.
You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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I also would like to know if this is possible in an easy way. I don't want to disable it for 256 apps independently.
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You can turn off Optimization for YouTube and WearOS
Settings > Apps & Notifications > Special app access
You can turn off optimization for any app, and see the advanced in the 3 dot menu. I had the same problem with my watch, turned off the watch app and helper, now works great. I also turned off messenger, no problems now.
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Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
boelze said:
Thanks for the reply!
That setting was the first thing I checked and already disabled optimization for the wearOS and cast apps which work fine now. Unfortunately it won't let me disable it for the youtube app as it handles that one as a system app. As long as youtube is not allowed in the background wearOS has nothing to communicate with so I still can't control it.
That's why my next thought was if I can't disable it for system apps maybe there is a way to completely disable it until oneplus has the problem solved. I know that solution would suck but at the moment I am forced to use another phone to use youtube properly which sucks even more imo.
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I wonder if the system mover app works on Pie and YouTube? I didn't realize YouTube was a system app since it's from the play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.systemappmover
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I would love to try this but I am unrooted. Youtube should be on the list but it is not, I am guessing that is because it comes preinstalled, the playstore app isn't there as well for example.
I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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I know this is an old thread, but the more I use my new phone, the more I believe this to be the issue with my Gmail app constantly putting my Exchange accounts back to 30 minute fetch. And, I cannot disable battery optimization on Gmail because it's a system app (and I do not want to root). For now, every other day, I have to tell the device that it really is OK for Gmail to remain constantly connected to my Exchange account, that I actually prefer it to be. I've made it to 54 hours with my normal use (OVER 7 HRS S.O.T), not trying to stretch it at all, no battery saving features on whatsoever. So it's safe to say I can afford for Gmail to stay connected with Exchange. The optimization is a bit too aggressive for not allowing system apps to be excluded.
I've also had issues with Google Assistant not reminding me about reminders that are clearly in the list of her reminders, and I think this to be the culprit as well, and again, can't disable it because it's not on the list.
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Having exactly same problems with gmail and chrome (html5 push notifications). I am rooted. So I am considering to mark those apps as non system apps, but still not sure if this won't brake future updates or something.