Desire HD volume - Desire HD General

I have found the supplied earphones much louder than my larger home system headphones,its like it needs a more powerfull amp to drive larger headphones.the voodoo sound fix was awesome on the galaxy s,big respect to the Guy that did that,or girl lol.

the speaker on the phone is rather disappointing

And the point of this thread is? Isn't it obvious that bigger headphones (with bigger speakers inside) need more power? And the reason the volume is lower is because the power from the audio output isn't unlimited.

Hawks556 said:
And the point of this thread is? Isn't it obvious that bigger headphones (with bigger speakers inside) need more power? And the reason the volume is lower is because the power from the audio output isn't unlimited.
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I'm with you...

loudness
Hawks556 said:
And the point of this thread is? Isn't it obvious that bigger headphones (with bigger speakers inside) need more power? And the reason the volume is lower is because the power from the audio output isn't unlimited.
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the point is the handset isnt powerfull enough,the galaxy s seems to be loud on home headphones,just a shame its not as loud on this phone,thats the point

I meant that in a non sarcastic manner by the way.

you'll need a portable headphone amp. The FIIO E5 can be had for a good price from DealExtreme

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[Q] Higher headphone output?

Is there a way to increase the sound output from the headphone jack when playing music? its a bit low, even on full volume.
Thanks
tigger69 said:
Is there a way to increase the sound output from the headphone jack when playing music? its a bit low, even on full volume.
Thanks
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What headphones do you use? I max out the volume with my Denon D1001s but I find that's just enough for me.. I would like to have the option of going higher though
I use Mixzing player for my music as it has an Equalizer. You can adjust the overall gain to increase volume. Don't go to crazy with the different bands on the EQ though or you might get some occasional skipping in songs.
I set the eq to 5 bands and adjust the bass band up a little. The app has nice widgets and is overall nicely polished.
Hope that helps! I can't stand going back to mediascape after using it. There is a free version with ads but its very much worth the 4 or 5 dollars (whatever it was) to get rid of the ads.
At the moment i am just using the ones that came with it, i do have a £17 pair of samsung ones but they are about the same. I was wondering if a pair with lower impedance might help.
I will take a look at mixzing though.
Thanks guys.
I use iems and have never had to bump the volume past 60%. They are expensive but my westone um1s lasted me 5 years. $150 over 5 years equals 30 per year. Good deal imo.
And I just upgraded to the westone 3s and never thought I could get such good audio quality from a phone
I may buy some better ones to try, I fancy trying some sennheiser ones.
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I'm using bose in ear headphones with my x10 and have to say its LOUD and sounds so much better than standard Sony headphones.
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gavriel18 said:
I use iems and have never had to bump the volume past 60%. They are expensive but my westone um1s lasted me 5 years. $150 over 5 years equals 30 per year. Good deal imo.
And I just upgraded to the westone 3s and never thought I could get such good audio quality from a phone
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I also have W3's and Shure e500's. GREAT phones. Maybe I have sensitive ears, but even at level 1, they're WAY TOO LOUD in a quiet environment. The loudest I've had it was at 50% and that was on an airplane and I need to use a volume attenuator to keep the loudness managable.
If you guys need to max out the volume, you either have serious hearing loss and/or crappy phones/bleeding sound. Maxing out the volume is Very bad for your ears. Even with the volume safety cap, max volume is Very loud and damaging.
Impedance is mostlikely not an issue here, but proper fit and positioning of the phones is probably the culprit.
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I also have W3's and Shure e500's. GREAT phones. Maybe I have sensitive ears, but even at level 1, they're WAY TOO LOUD in a quiet environment. The loudest I've had it was at 50% and that was on an airplane and I need to use a volume attenuator to keep the loudness managable.
If you guys need to max out the volume, you either have serious hearing loss and/or crappy phones/bleeding sound. Maxing out the volume is Very bad for your ears. Even with the volume safety cap, max volume is Very loud and damaging.
Impedance is mostlikely not an issue here, but proper fit and positioning of the phones is probably the culprit.
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Well when I'm using earphones (Shure 115) I don't max out the volume, but with my Denons I do need to. I know for a fact that my hearing is excellent, maybe its just mediascape. Haven't tried it with any other app
Also wantd to add that I use my Denons while commuting... I just tried them at home, and will.m is right... I don't go past 60% volume
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Also wantd to add that I use my Denons while commuting... I just tried them at home, and will.m is right... I don't go past 60% volume
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Yeah, it can get loud on public transportation and not all phones are good for blocking it out.
I used to have a pair of cheapish sony cups that did pretty well, but that was also when I used to listen to music at higher volumes and hadn't realized how loud it was before I switched to iems several years ago. Now I know better, but only when it comes to this...lolz
Using actual headphones seems to be enough from the few that I have tried. But when I connect the X10 to a portable external speaker system the volume is insufficient. Compared to my iphone friends, it just doesnt have the juice.
TokyoDude said:
Using actual headphones seems to be enough from the few that I have tried. But when I connect the X10 to a portable external speaker system the volume is insufficient. Compared to my iphone friends, it just doesnt have the juice.
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Are the speakers powered? That can make a difference sometimes.
They are battery powered. Listenable but could be more especially when your at the beach or something. Just using Mediascape .. will try other apps next time.
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I use a high end pair of Sony in-ears, and the volume is pretty ridiculously high if you ask me... listening to Shoutcast radio via TuneWiki destroys my ears with bass for some reason.
harlz said:
I'm using bose in ear headphones with my x10 and have to say its LOUD and sounds so much better than standard Sony headphones.
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I was looking at the bose in ear headphones but can you say they are really worth it? I am used to over the ear headphones as I find they generally give better sound quality and noise cancelling. I like to hear nice bass sound but am reluctant to try the bose in ear as I've never come across in ear headphones that can provide a decent bass sound.
Reeonimus said:
I was looking at the bose in ear headphones but can you say they are really worth it? I am used to over the ear headphones as I find they generally give better sound quality and noise cancelling. I like to hear nice bass sound but am reluctant to try the bose in ear as I've never come across in ear headphones that can provide a decent bass sound.
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Bose is disgustingly overrated and overpriced. Any decent sound guy wont touch it.
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Bose is disgustingly overrated and overpriced. Any decent sound guy wont touch it.
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+1. NEVER BUY BOSE.
For the money, buy Shure or Westone.
will.m said:
+1. NEVER BUY BOSE.
For the money, buy Shure or Westone.
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+1 @will.m do u have custom molds for yours? I'm debating getting some made but i get a really good seal atm with slim cpmplys. I thought they would be helpful because the expansion from the complys hurts my ears when i take them out. Any thoughts?

Galaxy note headphone sound loudness.

Its not just the galaxy note but galaxy's in general. They're not very loud with 3rd party headphones.
I've just tested the some sennheizer and and a pair i-grado headphones the sound is clear but its not loud.
Compared to my mates iPhone 4s it sounds crap.
Forget all the dsp boosters etc they're all crap.
Funny thing they're perfectly loud with the sumsang stock earphones
What ahsame to a great phone.
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It depends on the impedance of the phones. With my 16Ohm Sennheiser IE-8 it's loud enough, but the sound quality is not great, the noise is quite high. With my better phones, higher impedance, it's barely audible, but such phones need an amp anyway.
I'd say the sweet spot must be around 32 Ohms with this phone, loud enough, and probably not such noisy.
what app are you using? for some of them you'll need to enable direct volume control to get the full volume.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154759&highlight=music+playback
Souai said:
what app are you using? for some of them you'll need to enable direct volume control to get the full volume.
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im not using any app just using the stock music player....
how do i enable direct volume control???????????? :-/
The headphone smell cheap to me, with the irksome plasticky smell. So does it work well?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001P9EQH8/ref=oh_o02_s01_i00_details
this works well if you have cans that need an amp.
Or this, seems a bit better
http://www.amazon.com/Fiio-E6-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B005HJWWW8/ref=pd_cp_e_1
Oh god we need to carry extra devise with us :-(
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I have Sennheiser 70 Ohms and Galaxy note is able to drive it. The sound is not very high but enough to hear music in very good conditions...
Clearly my Cowon J3 is not more loud with this headphone.
remixtech said:
I have Sennheiser 70 Ohms and Galaxy note is able to drive it. The sound is not very high but enough to hear music in very good conditions...
Clearly my Cowon J3 is not more loud with this headphone.
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The first thing I noticed is that this phone and the Infuse sounded not too loud. My Zune HD goes much louder with regular cans (not buds).
I think they must have some kind of volume limiter on these phones to protect hearing so as to not have legal issues. The problem is not everyone uses those efficient, but crappy, buds supplied the phone
I did find a setting in power amp that helps a bit though. Try that.

[MOD] Loudspeaker change for superb volume and clarity

Hello, I want to know if we can change the speaker at the back with new one. The new one has to be easier for drive with more dB/mW.
Do you have ideas?
1. Absys kernel
2.Voodoo LOUDER (paid)
Neither of which will help the rear speaker, Voodoo Louder is for headphone output only.
problem would be to find a unit of suitable size and impedance to fit, and higher sensitivity to get more output. Short of taking the phone apart you might find the actual speaker unit spec in a service/tech manual, but you'll have voided your warranty in the process anyway...
use "Equalizer". It increases overall speaker volume by 80%.
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use "Equalizer". It increases overall speaker volume by 80%.
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+1 works for me
Audioboost for sgs2
Works on the Note too and will boost everything. headset AND speaker
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Audioboost for sgs2
Works on the Note too and will boost everything. headset AND speaker
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And then as SuperCurio said himself: "It could blow the speaker so I will not do it"...

Will a portable amp Improve the headphone quality?

Probably the most stupidest question out there but just wondering..
Since a lot of people are saying that the headphone quality is meh will a portable amp improve the quality?
crap in, crap out
amplifying a crap headphone out (if it is crap to you where you think a seperate amp should be used) will result in a crap result
if the usb has a line out, that might be of some use....does it? I'd be interested to know
An amp with its own DAC, like the Fiio E18 for example, would improve the sound quality. I've not used mine since I got my Exynos S7 though, the sound quality sounds good enough.
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crap in, crap out
amplifying a crap headphone out (if it is crap to you where you think a seperate amp should be used) will result in a crap result
if the usb has a line out, that might be of some use....does it? I'd be interested to know
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Yeah i have no idea, some people have said that getting a portable amp and plugging it to your phone will increase the audio quality :\ but your saying of "crap in, crap out" makes a lot of sense.. haha
jbpf77 said:
An amp with its own DAC, like the Fiio E18 for example, would improve the sound quality. I've not used mine since I got my Exynos S7 though, the sound quality sounds good enough.
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Cheers for that, yeah i'll be getting the exynos as well is it as bad as everyone saying it is ? (sound quality)
dazzer1975 said:
crap in, crap out
amplifying a crap headphone out (if it is crap to you where you think a seperate amp should be used) will result in a crap result
if the usb has a line out, that might be of some use....does it? I'd be interested to know
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portable amps don't utilize the 3.5mm jack. And yes, a portable amp will improve the quality. If you have the snapdragon version, then you'd want a portable dac/amp combo.
andiedee said:
Cheers for that, yeah i'll be getting the exynos as well is it as bad as everyone saying it is ? (sound quality)
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For me, listening at my desk at work in a fairly quiet environment, the sound quality and volume levels are absolutely fine. I used to have to use my E18 with my Note 4 all the time as the sound quality was really bad, especially noticeable as I had an M8 before that, but I've not used the E18 at all since I got the S7.
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For me, listening at my desk at work in a fairly quiet environment, the sound quality and volume levels are absolutely fine. I used to have to use my E18 with my Note 4 all the time as the sound quality was really bad, especially noticeable as I had an M8 before that, but I've not used the E18 at all since I got the S7.
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oh okay! sounds good to me
I got the m8 at the moment its 2 years old, gotta replace it with the s7e or the new HTC 10 i don't know if i can be bothered waiting for the HTC 10 though :\
I'm using my senheiser omx 980 and waiting for the oppo ha 2 hopefully it will sound different. I'm satisfied with the audio as it is now nonetheless
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I have funded this on Kickstarter. Its a DAC that is connected via the USB port.
AQUA DAC
Shipping at the end of this month hopefully. Write up seems good. I will have to wait till it comes to see if it works.
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Cheers for that, yeah i'll be getting the exynos as well is it as bad as everyone saying it is ? (sound quality)
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Which headphones are you Using??
I'm using a Pair of UE 900 (UVP 399€ quad-driver in-ear-monitors), and i have no problems, of deficites. I used an htc one m8 before, and i dont really notice a worse soundquality.
Sure, if you really try hard enough and compare then like you want to dissect it, you might find differences.
But like i said, i have no Problems there. The Output impedance is low enough with almost 2 Ohm, soundquality, and output Power is really enough (i can not listen to 100% Volume, it's just way too loud for me).
Of course, you'll ha ve to decide that yourself, maybe you have much better in-ears / headphones, and have much higher, more audiophile standards.
(but, if you dont dissect your music, but just want to enjoy listening, it's totally fine)

Audio Quality Thoughts

So I just got my HTC U11 today and spent a few hours setting it up. I finally got around to trying out the phone's audio capabilities.
USonic - they sound good for out of the box earphones, but they're definitely not as good as my V-Moda Forza's. I could tell immediately. I doubt I'll use this.
DAC adapter - I'm conflicted. I'm still trying to decide whether or not the adapter sounds as good as my HTC 10. My initial impression is that it's not as good. The 10 has a cleaner, fuller soundstage. I'm really bummed about the BoomSound Dolby and tuning mode not being present on the U11. I've never really listened to the 10 without that mode on, so maybe that's the reason. The U11 doesn't sound bad though.
What do you guys think?
Good enough for 90%
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Good enough for 90%
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Pretty much this, most people will love it but I think anyone who had a HTC 10, an Axon 7, S7 Edge (Exynos, volume modded) will notice a bit of a step down. More so the AMP is weak rather than the DAC being bad (although Juan at PocketNow numbers show the DAC to be worse than the HTC 10, Axon 7, S7 Edge, iPhone 7).
I'm contemplating getting a Fiio K1
I just compared the sound quality between my 10 (without BoomSound on) and the U11, and they do sound quite similar.
This leads me to my disappointment -- why did they remove the BoomSound frequency tuning from the U11? It's nice that they have it for the USonic earphones, but why would you need to create multiple audio profiles for those earphones, if there's literally only one pair of earphones that can take advantage of that feature.
I'll have my thoughts later today using a dt770 as my comparison between the 10 and 11. They normally require more power than my HD600. I don't use high impedance/low sensitivity HPs with phones anyway but I figured I'd test.
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I just compared the sound quality between my 10 (without BoomSound on) and the U11, and they do sound quite similar.
This leads me to my disappointment -- why did they remove the BoomSound frequency tuning from the U11? It's nice that they have it for the USonic earphones, but why would you need to create multiple audio profiles for those earphones, if there's literally only one pair of earphones that can take advantage of that feature.
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Wondering this as well, you can't edit the audio profiles anyway so what is the point in having more than one profile
I've been happy about the audio quality so far. The problem I have is that we only get 1 of the DAC to 3.5mm adapter cables included. Now in order to use my music at home, in car, and at work I now have to carry the cable around with me. It is not ideal to have to carry around an adapter. Getting the included earphones is cool (sound okay) but would rather received a total of 4 adapter cables.
I went to order 4 more and found out that they are in pre-order status. I'll just have to wait until they come in. Once I have an adapter everywhere then I won't be so pissy about it. Really wish they would have kept the 3.5mm, then phone would be considered my best phone ever.
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I've been happy about the audio quality so far. The problem I have is that we only get 1 of the DAC to 3.5mm adapter cables included. Now in order to use my music at home, in car, and at work I now have to carry the cable around with me. It is not ideal to have to carry around an adapter. Getting the included earphones is cool (sound okay) but would rather received a total of 4 adapter cables.
I went to order 4 more and found out that they are in pre-order status. I'll just have to wait until they come in. Once I have an adapter everywhere then I won't be so pissy about it. Really wish they would have kept the 3.5mm, then phone would be considered my best phone ever.
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There really was no need to remove it, only to use a worse DAC/AMP in the adaptor.
GSM spoke highly of the headphone output. (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11-review-1620p6.php)
Great audio output
The HTC U11 did splendidly in the first part of our audio test. When hooked to an active external amplifier it delivered very loud and perfectly accurate output.
When headphones come into play the volume remains nicely high and the only reading to take a hit is stereo crosstalk. It's a moderate amount of damage there and will all the other aspects of the performance remaining excellent, it's a great showing overall.
HTC U11 (headphones attached)
Frequency response: +0.05, -0.11 (+0.05, -0.02)
Noise Level: -94.1 (-93.7)
Dynamic Range: -94.1 (93.8)
THD: 0.0017 (0.0018)
IMD + Noise: 0.0067 (0.105)
Stereo crosstalk: -94.5 (-53.7)
HTC 10 (headphones attached)
Frequency response: +0.01, -0.03 (+0.06, -0.09)
Noise Level: -93.2 (-92.8)
Dynamic Range: -93.2 (93.0)
THD: 0.0022 (0.014)
IMD + Noise: 0.071 (0.141)
Stereo crosstalk: -92.8 (-77.9)
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My own personal experience, I found my DT770 to sound great but was 2 notches of volume below the 10. The 10 at volume 13/15 was the U11 at 15/15. I definitely can hear the crosstalk difference GSM has measured. Heard that before I saw the measurements. Overall, I can definitely live with this. Just hope I don't put myself in situations where I need to charge and listen.
My first impressions are that I'm not particularly impressed by the Usonic earphones - but then I don't usually use the earbuds that come with a phone.
Given the reviews here, I was a bit surprised to find the sound from the U11 adapter sounds better on first hearing than I was getting from the HTC 10, but then I haven't yet done a proper A-B comparison - it could be I was playing it a bit louder, or 'new device' enthusiasm...
As I said it already the 3.5mm adapter lacks Boomsound and this make a big difference with HTC 10, HTC can implement it in the FW of the adapter but we need to let them know we want it.
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GSM spoke highly of the headphone output. (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11-review-1620p6.php)
My own personal experience, I found my DT770 to sound great but was 2 notches of volume below the 10. The 10 at volume 13/15 was the U11 at 15/15. I definitely can hear the crosstalk difference GSM has measured. Heard that before I saw the measurements. Overall, I can definitely live with this. Just hope I don't put myself in situations where I need to charge and listen.
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Agreed. I can see the logic behind HTC's decision, and I actually don't disagree with it. They dropped the headphone jack but added noise cancellation and a decent pair of earphones. This targets that iPhone userbase that only uses the awful in-box white ear buds. It's definitely better value for the money for the average user.
Perhaps they needed to compromise on sound quality, but it still sounds pretty fantastic with the adapter. It may not sound as good as the 10 (honestly though it's pretty close), but I'm not mad about it.
Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.
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Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.
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I use theatre mode all the time but yes it is muddier than music mode which sacrifices volume for better audio quality
About stereo crosstalk can you ''fix'' it with V4A?
Or there are no way to enhance stereo?
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Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.
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I usually use theatre mode. If I'm playing through the speakers, volume is more important to me.
On another note, I'm having this horrible issue with BT audio. When playing music in google play music through BT earphones (jaybird x2) or my home speaker (LG soundbar), occasionally there's a really loud, awful screeching noise!
Anyone else have this issue?
Otherwise, BT audio is noticeably improved over the 10!
djbutter said:
On another note, I'm having this horrible issue with BT audio. When playing music in google play music through BT earphones (jaybird x2) or my home speaker (LG soundbar), occasionally there's a really loud, awful screeching noise!
Anyone else have this issue?
Otherwise, BT audio is noticeably improved over the 10!
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Was listening with aptX in my car for a while today and I had no issues along with noticing no difference. Same volume level when connected to an Audioengine B1 that has a 2 volt output to my Audison bit-Ten. Wish I could do a quicker back and forth test with my 10 but I'd have to sync the Bluetooth over and over.
I have to admit that I'm a little bit worried about the sound quality on the u11. One of the things that I really enjoyed on the m8 m9 and the 10 was the Dolby audio enhancement. I have been using that in combination with power amp music player for years and you'd be surprised what kind of sound quality I get out of my Sennheiser HD 558's. I can hear the bass in music the way it is meant to be heard, almost felt, I don't hear that distorted bass sound that you tend to hear on lower end devices.
This may sound stupid to some people but if the sound quality is not at least the same as what I get on my 10 then I'm going to send the phone back. I just got done trying out a $300 pair of Bluetooth headphones with my 10 and I was not impressed, they were close in some areas but for $300 I want more than close. There is a cheaper pair that I have been thinking about trying with the 11 but I'm not sure that I'm going to want to invest all of this money just to be able to say I own the new flagship, and get half decent sound out of it with headphones, especially when for all intents and purposes I'm perfectly happy with my 10.
Right before the phone ended up shipping out to me I was debating on canceling my order because once the feeling of new shiny device wore off I started the question what about the new phone actually got me excited and to be perfectly honest the answer for me is really nothing. I think edge sense could be cool but the apparent lack of support from case manufacturers has me a bit scared as well. I have never owned an all glass phone before and I don't think you could pay me enough to use this phone without any full-body protection I understand that the camera is much better but honestly I don't see a problem with the one that I have. So this could be the first year that I actually hang on to my phone.
I just paired this phone with the Fiio K1 DAC. Much better audio experience. The HTC 10 apparently was better than the K1 by about 10% so the fact that the K1 sounds so good compared to the adapter is quite telling

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