Hey Everyone,
I haven't seen anything on the Epic forums about this yet... so here is my piece.
I got the Amazon app store the other day, and I'm pretty impressed. The most impressive feature, to me, isn't the free app a day... it is the fact that it remembers your purchases/downloads. I've wiped my phone yesterday to start from scratch, and as soon as I reinstalled the Amazon App Store, it asked me if I wanted to view my purchased apps. I clicked each one, they downloaded and installed.
The part I don't get, is why can't the Android Market do the same thing? You are required to put in a user/pass (just like amazon app store)... so what prevents them from at least remembering what apps you've downloaded and provide the links to re-download them? I've used Titanium Backup to back up and restore, but I'm not convinced that it doesn't create problems (phone runs much smoother and with less problems when I don't use Titanium Backup to restore).
I know this was long, and you've probably lost interest already... but if anyone has any info or knowledge on the subject, please chime in!
That is all.
Actually my nexus one does auto restore from android market, so it might be a feature in gingerbread.
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The market does remember your purchese apps. When I had the moment then switched to the epic all the apps I bought came up on this phone when I loged in on to my gmail acc
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Ok, maybe I need to clarify a bit...
I haven't "purchased" any apps from the Android Market or the Amazon App Store. I've downloaded numerous free apps.
I would imagine paid apps get re-linked... but what about the free apps you've purchased?
I've been playing around with ROMS... so after every wipe, I go in to the market... and nothing is there.
If this is a feature in Gingerbread, it will be awesome. I would never worry or hesitate to wipe my phone if I had an issue. It isn't downloading the apps that bother me, it's searching for each one individually.
For some reason the epic doesnt have the back up data thing that aosp phones do.
When you sign in, it automatically redownloads and installs everyapp you had installed.
Also, on market.android.com you can see everything youve downloaded and install it by hand.
I agree that its stupid the epic is missing that feature. My hero running cm6 has it
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DK28 had the app restore feature, not sure why it was removed since.
A_Flying_Fox said:
For some reason the epic doesnt have the back up data thing that aosp phones do.
When you sign in, it automatically redownloads and installs everyapp you had installed.
Also, on market.android.com you can see everything youve downloaded and install it by hand.
I agree that its stupid the epic is missing that feature. My hero running cm6 has it
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Wow, never knew about this. So if I wipe my phone, I can log into market.android.com and it will redownload all of my apps for me? As nice as it would be to have it all on the device, logging in to the website isn't bad at all!
A lot of the reviews of the Amazon Appstore never seem to mention what I personally think is a killer feature: sorting and filtering.
At any step of the way, you can choose to only view 3+/4+/5+ star apps, among other options. As soon as I heard about the new store, before it even came out, I had high hopes for sorting, knowing it's one of the great features of Amazon.com.
Google tends to shun sorting/filtering in favor of typed search queries. You can see this in the almost religious devotion to search in gmail, where sorting by anything but date is impossible without using a third party client--and this limitation is vehemently defended by Gmail supporters.
In this regard, I think Amazon will remain on top. I just don't see Google backpeddling on this philosophy, and the Android Market will remain dominated by algorithms and search queries.
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Wow, never knew about this. So if I wipe my phone, I can log into market.android.com and it will redownload all of my apps for me? As nice as it would be to have it all on the device, logging in to the website isn't bad at all!
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A little off topic but Sense 2.0 ROMS do that also. I've been running Myn's and Mik's Desire Z ports on my Evo and whenever you log back in with your Gmail account all of your apps, paid and free, automatically start downloading to the phone. Pretty neat feature.
Yep, got a Wifi Xoom today, and sure enough about 90% of my installed apps came over...all of my purchased apps are available for redownload.
Same thing happened when I switched from HeroC to Epic.
This re-download was a new feature of 2.2, and you have to have 2.2 and be going to 2.2+ to restore.
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Google removed 2 apps from phones.
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...pp-auf-Smartphones-aus-der-Ferne-1028907.html
These 2 test apps came from TippingPoint to show how easy it is to deliver an unsecure app to a phone. These apps are not dangerous.
Did they give you a refund?
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I think the apps were for free. TippingPoint removed the apps already from the market but a lot of people installed these apps manually.
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Interesting.. This, plus http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20008518-245.html
Both close on the heels of the ipony Fo Gee release. Coincidence?
Haha, that cnet article has been changed now. They found out it was fear-mongering by iPhone fans. For example, a contacts application needs access to your contacts. Sound the alarm, they are stealing my data!
Silly question but here goes...
I currently have a Nexus One and I'm planning on buying a XOOM next month (wifi only)
question is: can I log into my XOOM with my current google account (used by my N1) and choose what apps to sync etc.. or will I have to create a new google account entirely, just for the XOOM?
Basically, can you be on 2 android devices at once with the same username from google, or not? Cuz I know if you change phones, you just login and it will re-download apps, bookmarks, settings etc.... but will it recognize the fact that you're on a tablet and sorta create 2 profiles?
You only need one Google account. All of your purchased applications will transfer over and you will have the ability to pick and choose what you'd like to install on either device. From my experience, the auto restore for apps and the rest of your data only occurs when you are using the same device, but I could be wrong. For reference, I'm using an LG Optimus for work and a Nexus S for my personal device.
You only need one account. I'm using my N1 and i have a rogers captivate for work and i can sync everything on both phones. It's great to only have to pay once for my apps and use them on a different phone.
You can definitely do that. I have 3 phones synced to my Google account right now.
The web based Android market seems enabled for just this. It will differentiate devices and you can "send" an app to your specific device.
My guess is its not a problem as Android tablets have been around for months now.
Purchased apps can be used on my phone and tablet. The auto restore seems to be device type specific because when I got a loaner MyTouch 4g, it installed everything that was on my N1 automagically (a little surprising).
On the tablet, purchased apps showed up as purchased, but nothing auto downloaded.
My tablet is Archos so it is not official market supported like the Xoom so it would be interesting to find out about the auto restore but I doubt it will.
Market seems to be pretty good about device type identification.
675 Trip said:
Purchased apps can be used on my phone and tablet. The auto restore seems to be device type specific because when I got a loaner MyTouch 4g, it installed everything that was on my N1 automagically (a little surprising).
On the tablet, purchased apps showed up as purchased, but nothing auto downloaded.
My tablet is Archos so it is not official market supported like the Xoom so it would be interesting to find out about the auto restore but I doubt it will.
Market seems to be pretty good about device type identification.
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The other thing that seems to impact whether or not apps are restored automatically is when you put in your Google account during the activation process. It seems that all of my devices will restore my apps if I put it in immediately after flashing a new ROM or doing a full wipe, but if I skip that process and add it later, the apps are not restored.
Either way, the device will recognize what you've purchased and will automatically sync contacts, calendar, etc. if you choose it to.
We should ask in the xoom section... I just ordered one too and am kinda interested in how this works.
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You only need one Google account. All of your purchased applications will transfer over and you will have the ability to pick and choose what you'd like to install on either device. From my experience, the auto restore for apps and the rest of your data only occurs when you are using the same device, but I could be wrong. For reference, I'm using an LG Optimus for work and a Nexus S for my personal device.
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You only need one Google account! I have a DInc nd an Evo and they both are on all the time and never any problems. You should be good to go!
It's not a 'real' tablet experience, per se, but I just activated a second android device on my account. I've been using CM7 on my N1. I loaded a CM7 ROM onto a Nook Color yesterday, and almost all of my market apps came down when I signed in, many of them with settings intact. Both devices are displayed on the My Account -> Settings page on the web market.
I've been managing the app loads on each device separately. So far I have not noticed any cross-contamination of apps or settings from one device to the other. Contacts have remained synced up the whole time.
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Silly question but here goes...
I currently have a Nexus One and I'm planning on buying a XOOM next month (wifi only)
question is: can I log into my XOOM with my current google account (used by my N1) and choose what apps to sync etc.. or will I have to create a new google account entirely, just for the XOOM?
Basically, can you be on 2 android devices at once with the same username from google, or not? Cuz I know if you change phones, you just login and it will re-download apps, bookmarks, settings etc.... but will it recognize the fact that you're on a tablet and sorta create 2 profiles?
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when I setup my Xoom yesterday i used the same account as on my mesmerize and it synced
Things like contacts from gmail, emails, and calendar, pretty much the usual google apps.. As far as the other apps, they did not sync in three slightest. The apps which I've paid for show up in my apps so i can download them but they do not do it automatically and I've had to manually download each one and set whether it auto updates or not. As for the other apps
Not a single one even showed as having been on my phone. I guess the rule of thumb is if its a paid app, it will be possible to manually install it from my apps but free apps do not at all carry over.
this is my experience and certainly there is room for improvement... There are apps out there that can do this for us, market quick links is one of those I think. It backs up links for the installed apps so they can be quickly installed on an(other) device...
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Most apps will sync in both places. I had trouble with docs 2 go. Would only register on the device it was first installed (licensing issues). They offered to reassign to the new device but then it wouldn't work on the first one.
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Most apps will sync in both places. I had trouble with docs 2 go. Would only register on the device it was first installed (licensing issues). They offered to reassign to the new device but then it wouldn't work on the first one.
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I noticed when I was purchasing docs to go that it said it would only work on one device at a time, but i think that unless otherwise specified in the apps tos that it should work for all apps but that some companies want to force a second buy for each device even though I can only user one at a time... Greedy aorta sorta and makes me not wanna use apps like that to discourage devs from taking such actions..
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wow great responses, thanks guys.
I just wanted to make sure... because it would suck to have alllllllllll the apps from my N1 on my XOOM .. I wanna pick which ones. and by picking which ones to keep on XOOM, I didn't want it to "sync" with my N1 and delete them there too!
If they are truly treated as 2 different objects, then perfect!
On a side note, I can't wait for the damn WIFI-only version to come out already!!!
I can confirm that they are all treated differently.
I currently have 3 devices on the go at once and all from the same Google account.
I have the nexus one, nexus s and galaxy tab and I have access to all of my purchased apps on each device without having to install them all......its great!
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wow great responses, thanks guys.
I just wanted to make sure... because it would suck to have alllllllllll the apps from my N1 on my XOOM .. I wanna pick which ones. and by picking which ones to keep on XOOM, I didn't want it to "sync" with my N1 and delete them there too!
If they are truly treated as 2 different objects, then perfect!
On a side note, I can't wait for the damn WIFI-only version to come out already!!!
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I bought mine at retail for full price, and do not plan on using any net other than my home wifi and tethered wifi from my sgs mez if on the go. No breed for a 2nd monthly bill. I would encourage you to purchase it from other than vzw. According to vzw they cannot Add device insurance unless its got a phone no... crappy huh?
How much cheaper do you think wifi only will be and when will it be out?
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MitchRapp said:
wow great responses, thanks guys.
I just wanted to make sure... because it would suck to have alllllllllll the apps from my N1 on my XOOM .. I wanna pick which ones. and by picking which ones to keep on XOOM, I didn't want it to "sync" with my N1 and delete them there too!
If they are truly treated as 2 different objects, then perfect!
On a side note, I can't wait for the damn WIFI-only version to come out already!!!
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I have an N1 and just got a viewsonic g tab. None of my apps automatically installed on the tab using the same google account, but I can confirm that my purchased apps were in the list. If you have a ton of free apps and don't want to dig through the market for them all, you can use a backup app to back them up on your N1 and then copy them over to the tab and restore the ones you want. This saved me a lot of time.
Jon
actually, I didn't want ANY apps to sync at all I want both my devices to be unique, but use the same google account. Looks like I'll be ok!
Thanks for all the responses guys!
As long as my N1 and future XOOM sync contacts/calendar/etc... but not all apps, I'm happy
Anyone has the updated Market rolled to his/her device yet!?
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-android-market-for-phones-with.html
Here the apk
http://goo.gl/gXOQm
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Here the apk
http://goo.gl/gXOQm
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Can't seem to install this. Anyone else got this to work?
Try to Uninstall the previous version with titanium backup
It works on Thunderbolt 2.2.1, stock.
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I'll back it up with RootExplorer and try this out and see what happens. I'll let you guys know if it works on the N1....
Works on galaxy S2. Seems MUCH slower than the old market
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Works on galaxy S2. Seems MUCH slower than the old market
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Same. It works fine on N1, I did get an error at first but I got it working. Its slower then the regular market, but I like it overall.
The new market looks really good and works very smoothly for me.
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Movie section of Market doesn't work with rooted devices
If your device is rooted, you won't have access to the Movies section.
Nice, Google, nice.
coffeemm
Working on rooted defy. Movie section is there. But not willing to 3.99 to test it. Someday. Running good though. Looks nice. Kinda reminds me of wm7
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Working great on my N1... thanks for posting
I noticed that some apps vanish from My Apps in the new Market. I had about 4 apps to update in the old Market, two manual because of changed permissions. I left it as-is and installed the new Market. In the new Market, only the two apps without changed permissions appeared as updates in My Apps. The other two apps had vanished completely from the My Apps list. If I search for them manually they will still show up and I can update them though.
You may want to try clearing the data of the market app
Install the new market using the apk from android central.
I like a nice little improvement to the notification: it says "updating" instead of "installing" now
Yet, it is not performing fast enough... I feel laggy when using it. And the new UI looks like WP7 (though I personally like this new design )
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so it's not just me thinking that it's really laggy ... maybe it's not the final version?
or maybe we now need a Dual-Core Phone to use the new Market
It runs fine for me on the N1 most of the time. The only lag I've noticed is when it's fetching the icons for the apps on the Staff Picks screen or similar. When the icons have been downloaded it runs smoothly. I like the Honeycomb/ICS-like design.
Downloaded Market from http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/07/12/download-the-new-android-market-v3-0-26-with-support-for-movies-and-books/ I am not sure when it will go live in my country so Downloaded from there..I love it but Kinda fell Lag.I think it is new so might take few days/weeks to fix it over it is SO COOL on SGS2 but I have a Problem I can't see Movies Option I think Movies option is not Available in my country yet
Yeah, movie section doesnt appear on my market using MIUI Rom.
Anybody else having issues with Facebook since switching markets? Logic says it can't effect of but since I updated the market, Facebook won't load. Happened immediately after installing the market.
don't be so quick to yell at google for blocking movies if you're rooted
it's pretty clear the movie studios wouldn't give them the licenses for the movies unless they blocked rooted devices
i mean, i'm not agreeing with the studios. cuz are they REALLY worried people are gonna ****ing steal ****ty low res videos off their cellphone? there's SO MANY other(better) ways to pirate these movies. but whatever
I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
UPDATE: You can remove HTCloggers.apk...all you have to do is restart afterwards.
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I've been up late tonight, and just so happened to stumble across this article over at AndroidPolice. Figured it might interest some people here since it includes our phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...e-numbers-gps-sms-emails-addresses-much-more/
Here's the thing, though. They recommend uninstalling the offending apk immediately, which I tried.....Unfortunately that gives me repeated force closes over and over and over while the system tries to run it, to the point where I had to restore to a backup. So what do we do about this?
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Yes and no.
Yes because so many users run Sense.
No because I run AOSP.
Frankly, I wonder how many other serious flaws there are.
I can name several apps that want their hands on permissions they have no business in [Facebook for one]
Its like 1984 for sure. There's an article in the new section here at xda that talks about some of the other vulnerabilities as well.
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Thanks for sharing. Another reason why we root our phones
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Many devs remove these programs and such to remove ciq. I can't find the thread right now, but it reads just about everything. It's so deeply imbedded into the framework.
It reads every button you press on your keyboard.
Every text you send and receive.
Every app you use and download.
The pages you browse on using the internet browser.
It even goes as far to read any spot on your screen that you touch.
This is spyware to the extreme. Sprint and HTC will say its not "spyware" and say its used only for marketing to determine how phones are being used to further develop for the current trends in smartphones. It's very possible they could steal personal info with this. Is it currently happening? Uhh...probably not, but there will still be a lot of paranoia about it.
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
very True Haha
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Some of us haven't forgotten the XCP rootkit that was on some Sony BMG titles in 2005... hope HTC doesnt suffer a similar demise like Sony eventually has of late.
This has been removed from MikG.
This is exactly why I'm AOSP. (that and sub-100MB ROM files)
I read the article too- (I have an Androidpolice/Android Central) feed in my Pulse reader....
I already knew CIQ and such were slimy embedded spyware...but the Treve app- spotted stuff I hadnt deleted already... Sprint sent me a "letter" about bandwidth usage and We-KNOW-what-Your-Doing" ----
I'm not amused by HTC/Sprint's collusion... leaving our bottoms out there in the cold for anyone to do whatever with.....
I bet even money my phones been cloned... sometimes I can't use it for calls .. recently -and I'd not had a single missed call or problem in a year.
I'm not a happy camper.. worried about my credit card #'s and really really am annoyed by HTC sliming us this way...
to the tune- that it'll be an icey cold day in hell before I'd consider buying another HTC phone for anyone in my family- (my family has 3 Evo 4g)...
We are not amused.....
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Sounds like a really good reason to stay with AOSP to me...
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AMEN
it appears to me that this file has already been removed from MikFroyo. At least, I can't find it...
BTW, you can just remove it using TIbackup, but you'll have to restart to get rid of the repeated force closes. Simple fix, and I've done the same for CarrierIQ as well.
It was removed from sprint lovers rom as well... I couldnt find it at least
I removed HtcLoggers.apk from mine and after rebooting (force close loop) it seems to be working fine. However, is there an old log file still on the phone that can be read by some Spyware app that needs to be removed or does all this data need to come from the logger app itself? If there still is a log, I'm sure it has enough info to still steal my ESN and other stuff.
Wow! Glad I run custom ROMS
Just completed the Dexter Mod to allow Google Play on my A7.
All appears working fine, except that Google play will not allow me to purchase any apps. I get an Error ("An error occurred, please try again"), everytime I touch the price button on any app or music.
I've rebooted the device without clearing the issue.
Any ideas?
Oh yeah, this device is not on Googles list of supported devices.
Thanks
Update - Still no joy. Free aps download, but cannot buy
I decided to try to re-do the mod.
I first went to Google and deleted all my accounts.
I did the Dexter mod again from scratch and set up a new Google Acct after the reboot.
Going to Google Play updated the Android Marketplace to Play Store on the tablet.
Using Google Play I still cannot buy an app, but I can download a free one. There are only two apps listed anyway. Missle Command which I cannot buy for $0.99 and 8Track, a music app which is free and downloaded fine.
The first time I did this there were a bizillion apps available, although I could get to none of them.
Any ideas here?
***** Another Update: I discovered I can buy apps using Play Store through my PC for the A7 which upload fine, but still not directly thru the A7
Another Update: Success
Seems like after waiting a while and not using the tablet's Play Store, when finally returning, I have a full list of games and apps.
I also just successfully downloaded a free game (Angry Birds Space) directly from the A7.
This is good news!
I had read elsewhere that on another tablet (Samsung, I believe), ignoring the Play Store app on the tablet for a while would eventually alloe it to work properly.
Seems like that's the case here.
Wow, quiet group here! Lots of views on both of my current threads and not a single comment. I know everyone was just waiting for me to figure it out myself ;<)
Dexter has more than a dozen Mods for at least 3 OS on at least 6 platforms. Probably that is the reason that no one replied ??
Dan
rockethead26 said:
Wow, quiet group here! Lots of views on both of my current threads and not a single comment. I know everyone was just waiting for me to figure it out myself ;<)
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I haven't been in this forum in a while just pop in once in a while, might find better help for the a7 at tabketroms.com, but any ways have you tried clearing the cache and data of the google play store in your settings?
Thanks for the recommendation on the other site. Everything works fine, but the device is listed as not supported by a great majority of the apps. It's kind of a worthless tablet, at least it was free.
rockethead26 said:
Thanks for the recommendation on the other site. Everything works fine, but the device is listed as not supported by a great majority of the apps. It's kind of a worthless tablet, at least it was free.
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I been using the cm7 which uses a modified build.prop for the xoom, or you could easily find a modified market here on xda
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I been using the cm7 which uses a modified build.prop for the xoom, or you could easily find a modified market here on xda
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Thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll just let this one die a quiet death.