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Hi all mates!
I'd like to open a thread to discuss about this piece of software!
I have to buy one among tomtom3, destinator 3 and Navigator 4 so I think it's good to open this thread to share any comments and infos and any other thoughts concerning theese sat-nav programs!
Cya!!!
Forget Destinator for a start. We have a review of the previous version of Navigon here and TomTom3 here.
I have myself check out different navigation systems and have concluded that Navigon Mobile Navigator 4 is the most sophisticated one. But I must concede, it is expensive, they had delays in bringing the software to market, they have already made an upgrade available (presumably there were issues with the new software), and they have not managed to put the demo on their website for about the last 3 months. In addition, I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
There is also a POI handler available (in English) at: http://www.navigating.de
Check out this German site for a review (in German): http://www.pocket.at/navigation/navivergleich.htm
But I still believe it is the most sophisticated navigation system available for PPC, I am just wondering whether something simpler would do for me. :roll:
Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
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I planned to buy the Fortuna clip-on gps bluetooth: so do u think with navigon it's not compatible?
Btw, i can purchase the navigon bundle with his bluetooth + Tmc receiver!
Any other thoughts?
Thx u all!
jag said:
Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
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Destinator has a great deal of issues and it's latest version is no match for any of your other options, Consider CoPilot, TomTom or Navigon as your top three choices. Others worth considering are Deluo Routis, also sold as Socket MyNavigator and Intellinav amongst others.
I have found that navigon doesn't support custom POIs! is that right?
Another thing: a little very pleased feature in destinator is the possibility to read the phone number of certain POI like restaurant, bar, ecc; so the question is: has any of the other competitors the ability to do this?
I believe that with the POI handler Navigon does support custom POIs. Check the link I indicated above, it is in English.
Ok, that's right for the POIs, but for what concern telephone number?
Does anyone knows something?
no one?
I am currently using the Navigon older software 1.5 which also has RDS-TMC together with my MDAII .The TMC function is really useful and works in Germany, Belgium , UK - all these countries I have personally tested and have been rerouted and saved several times. The POI included in Navigon also work well some are already allocated but you can download more also some from POI handler and you this service you have to pay a yearly fee. ( for speed camera etc)
The advantages of Navigon are that you get the whole of Europe and the TMC function and no other extra costs except upgrades. Up to now I am very happy especially now since I also have a official carkit for the MDA II. I laugh at all my friends with thier expensive navi systems in their cars. Navigon , Tom tom etc are really not expensive if you compare them with car built in systems
I looked at Tom Tom but found the maps more clearer ( for myself ) Tom Tom uses teleAlas while the Navigon uses Navitech . The older software Navigon did not show your speed but the new one Navigon 4 does. Tom Tom also does have TMC but this needs to be downloaded via GPRS and adds to the cost.
Today ( WooHoo !!! ) I have recieved my software & hardware upgrade to Navigon|4 and as I am travelling these weeks and I will install it in the next few weeks.
I only opted for the upgrade as I can now use the bluetooth GPS reciever when I go cycling or walking.
Funny, when I was making my choice it was between Alturion & Navigon. I chose Navigon as all the right hardware was ready for The MDA II. I have never regreted buying navi software.
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Thx rafiki, and remember: I'd like to read here ur thoughts about this navi software! Of course, take it easy, do it when u can! I'll appreciate it very much!
Any news about extracting\reading phone numbers and any other type of infos from the electronic maps? :?:
WooHoo !!!! :lol:
A really good piece of software! I installed the navigon 4 yesterday and used all day today. Boy am i happy.
I got:-
Bluetooth ( modular with TMC)
I can see my Speed, atlitude, got a compass , est time of arrival , duration, inclication of road,
3D or bird eye view
perfect sound with my MDA II carkit with mute ( on software)
Adjustable volume
I can type in destinations or touch on the map via touch screen
I van also use voice command for stored destinations
All in all I am very happy!!!!!!
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDAII ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ? :?:
Thx Rafiki!!!
I think i'm gonna buy this software!
@ Jag!
Forgot to mention I work for an Italian Company! :lol:
Navigon comes in standard in 7 languages.
Here is a hand book you can download from Navigon in 7 languages.
http://www.navigon.de/downloads/consumer_products/Short_Manual_7_languages.pdf
also if you visit the site there is a lot of info in English , including screen shots. You can also order via the site.
good luck
Rafiki
Rafiki wrote:
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDA II ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ?
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The XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020/imate all come with Windows Mobile 2003 - PPC2002 is not available for this platform.
@ BRosenow
Thanks mate! :lol:
Now I know which upgrade I need for my navi to make it Navigon 4.01
Regards
Rafiki
TY Rafiki!
Bye!!
thanks for those who have already tested several of these navigator to give their opinion.
I am gonna buy one of them but which one, that is another problem.
For now, I am balanced between igo8 and navigon 7.
iGo8...........
I've tried TomTom7 and Navigon 7. Both work fine, but TomTom 7.910 is seriously sluggish when navigating.
Navigon updates the screen much faster, and has a much more modern and polished look (I'd almost say eye-candy) - it's like comparing (something produced with) MS Paint vs PhotoShop. Navigon is very sluggish when entering city names and addresses, but I noticed that I could type ahead - even though the screen appeared frozen, the GUI would eventually catch up with every letter.
My slant is still towards TomTom though, but just because I find the menus and controls more intuitive (plus, I'm used to it from earlier versions). This occasion has been my first with Navigon.
I may have a-go (haha) with IGo soon.
At least you could have started a poll. Now you will have to count. But I will help you out here. iGO8 will win. It is the most appealing navigation software for PDA's. Maybe not the best, but the most tweakable for sure. And we all like tweaking
David
iGO 8, no doubt.
Yeah iGO8 is the my choice as well! anyone found 800x480 skins???
Postcodes
Hi
Could UK users of iGO8 tell me if it does postcodes or just addresses?
TIA
Cheers
BimB
Postcodes
There is an extensive review of the iGO 8 here which looks at UK postcodes
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/navngo-igomyway8-review-hmnx4.php
Myself, I still can't bring myself to buy it, despite it looking impressive, I just couldn't keep swapping microSD cards all the time.
Thanks for that.
Pretty good review!
BimB
Just some questions:
- Does Navigon support Traffic Information as TT7 does?
- Does IGO8 support Traffic Information as TT7 does?
As far as I could see, only TT7 supports traffic information over the GPRS/UMTS-connection together with the built-in GPS.
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Yeah iGO8 is the my choice as well! anyone found 800x480 skins???
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Haven't tried personally, but would be interested to know if it works...
http://artwork-igo8.blogspot.com/2008/10/igo8-ultra-skin-v502-with-high.html
iGO8 or navigon 7
Im using iGO 8 and Navigon 7 with my HD. I do'nt like TomTom.
When I'm making long distances on the highway I like Igo8 the most because it has a smartzoom function and gives an automatic 2D map overview during traveling.
When I'm traveling from France to the UK Navigon does'nt recognize the channel tunnel he's always using the ferrylines. (perhaps my mistake) In Switserland the tunnelmode in Igo is perfect.
For shorter city trips and when I'm, traveling in a high traffic density Navigon is superior with his excellent TMC module and better voice commands. Igo8 has a sluggish TMC support. It does not recognize all trafficjams and makes a lot of mistakes when it's recalculating a new route. Also the Navigon maps are more up to date.
The Navigon TMC module only supports the GNS TMC protocol. Igo8 supports more protocols, so I'm using two GPS/TMC devices. A less sensitive ans slow GNS mouse with Navigon and a fast and sensitive Royaltek GPS/TMC mouse with iGO8.
All installed...
I have Navigon MN7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7 installed on my HD !! ;-)
My point of view :
- Tomtom 7 has the less accurate maps and the World's ugliest graphical interface, however it's very fast !
- iGo 8 use the same not so accurate maps as Tomtom ! For example, two hold gas-stations close to my home are missing, and the speed limit are often wrong.
- Navigon MN7 has by far the nicest interface and more accurate maps... + Reality View… + Text-to-speech for road’s name…
So for me, the choice is easy :
1 : Navigon MN7
2 : iGo 8
3 : Tomtom 7
I'm likely to be in the same boat soon (choosing a sat nav solution). But there seams to be alot of confusion around traffic options for the UK.
Anyone able to give clear UK specific info for the traffic update options for each of the candidates...
Thanks,
Zuber
Am I right in thinking that there is no Australian maps for Navigon? So for us down here it is TomTom or Igo?
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I have Navigon MN7, iGo 8 and Tomtom 7 installed on my HD !! ;-)
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Hi Rolud,
how do you work with iGO 8 and other tools: you change storage cards or is it an iGO version you can install on a larger storage card?
I'm not requesting a "warez" solution, just to get practical registration info.
Thanks for info.
Good tracks.
Actually the 3 softwares are installed on the very same 8Gb SDHC card, included with the Touch HD...
And everything is working fine...
May as well have may say then!
How can you look past tomtom? It's the original and this newer version is far superior to V6 which in itself was awesome. V7 is on my Blackstone right now and works fine (by the way, if anyone is having issues trying to get it to run on their system, just PM me and i'll help all i can with what bits i have on my pc).
Currently running... tomtom 7.450.9028 which seems super stable and the maps to match... not V6 as we should all know by now, they aren't compatible!
Anyway, i've seen the other options you have mentioned in use in more than one location and personally, not impressed. At the end of the day though... it's your choice and (if you really want to go down this route) your cash!!!
TheShowStopper
definitive igo8 with NAVTEQ maps
here , the best ....
http://www.i-go8.com/
Hi guys,
I'm living in Vietnam, where TOMTOM doesn't work (no maps). Could you please tell me how to replace TOMTOM by another software as the default navigation service? For example, in Asia, MapKing should be useful more than TOMTOM. Thanks so much!
for me
i want to change that to garmin
celice: It isn't possible for Garmin, look here to find why http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530034
torrentonly thank you very sir ^-^
A little update for this. It actually is possible to use another navigation software, but some important steps must be made.
1) Navigation software must support command line options or have proper SDK (like TomTom or Garmin Mobile XT)
2) navipanel.exe and naviservice.dll must be debugged to find, how is MiddleLayerDLL handled
3) Code a new library, which will handle new navigation software via navipanel
I found some examples with Garmin SDK for visual studio. It looks quite simple and straightforward, but it has one big flaw. Garmin Mobile XT must be running to pass command to it.
Just a note. At this moment, there is no possibility to run other navigation software with NaviPanel.
garmin mobile xt
Garmin Mobile XT works fine for me
In the spanish version, the GPS software by default is CoPilot 7, Can you try it? But i think that there is no maps of there.
Regards!
Hi all.
Small guide for changing the "Navigator" Hardware-key:
1. Delete from folder with current navigator folder all files.
2. Install into this directory new GPS navigator application (or move all files into this folder)
3. Rename *.exe file on previuos exe name
I'm from Russia. I changed Navitel Navigator on GisRussa
You have to do this
HKLM\Software\HTC\NaviSW\
find this key MiddleLayerDLL that have a value NaviSWMiddle_CoPilot.dll
Change it in NaviSWMiddle_TomTom.dll
It works for garmin, too.
You have to substitute garmin to tomtom in the word
Make a soft reset and after garmin will be your default navi for all the applications (footprint, navipanel)
If you cannot find this key, you can create it, I just make it and works perfectly...
Hi,
is there an I-Go version (the new release) that can run under the android OS??
in general is it possible in some way to run Windows Mobile Apps / Games under and Android OS?
If not, what is the solution???
Thanks...
I think the answer is no to both. There is no way to run Windows software under Android.
If you are looking for sat nav software, nav4all is free but supposedly a little unstable at the moment, Co-pilot is a pretty good paid-for option.
GPS programs
Are program fro android have maps for all of the world like I-Go??
Copilot covers the US and Europe at the moment:
http://www.alk.com/copilot/android/default.asp
I know this is not the real key forum for Navis but I thought I give it a try as my prob could be related with the OS.
And I know this device is not in the compatibility list for TomTom Navigator 7 but usually the TT Navi7 works on Win 5 and Win 6 devices.
I have:
- an HP ipaq (model hw6915) with
- Windows Mobile WM 5 (searched this forum for a Win 6 ROM and it looks like some smart guys are currently working on that so I could not yet give it a try with Win 6)
According to the ipaq user manual, the device has this GPS receiver installed:
- GL20000 from Global Locate. In case a manual setting is required for a software, the ipaq manual mentions to set it to COM 7 and a BAUD rate of 57600.
Here is my problem:
I had installed Navigator 6 and it worked fine – but with outdated maps as the new maps require Navigator 7. So after some years of using the old Navigator 6 I installed now the TomTom Navigator 7.917.9186 plus the recent Europe 2GB maps.
The new Navigator 7software starts fine and accepts the new map, but it does not recognize the internal GPS antenna. I receive the message “no GPS devide”. Then I tried a bit and switched (in TomTom Navigator settings) from the “internal” to “other NMEA GPS receiver” and tried different Baud rates. With this setting the Navigator does receive GPS signal – once in a while (1 signal about every minute – just enough to locate the current position but not enough to really navigate).
So obviously the Navigator 7.x does not get correct GPS signals from the built-in antenna (while the older Navigator 6 always did).
Oh and I tried a free utility called GPS Proxy, which copies GPS signals from the inernal antenna to another (virtual) COM port, and I configured TT Navigator 7 to read out from that virtual COM port the GPS proxy is sending its data to. No success.
Any idea how to solve that problem?
Once again, I know this is not the right forum for Navigation software but I thought I give it a try....
sometimes ago on my hw6915 i used the 7.910 version without problems.
try to use this version.
regards,
Sold
Thanks Soldato. Tried the the 7.910 version again but same result - except that in addition to the problem the phone´s speaker gets de-activated. Somehow this speaker problem can be overcome by deleting/replacing a certain file in the Windows folder (I had tried the 7.910 version already half a year ago and I found out how to switch on the speaker but forgot what I did....)
Hmm. Also no loader or converter etc. seems to exist that would allow using the newer TT maps with the older (but working) Navigator 6 software.
Looks like I will keep my ipaq hw6915 in the box for a while till a GPS-supporting WM 6 version can be found.
i can try!!
can u send your tomtom soft, n charts, i have hw6915
i'll try them up for ya n give you a hint!!
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Sure I will mail it, but its nothing fancy. You can find the corresponding TomTom Navigator software everywhere on the web.
Does TT 7 work on your hw 6915?
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Sure I will mail it, but its nothing fancy. You can find the corresponding TomTom Navigator software everywhere on the web.
Does TT 7 work on your hw 6915?
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yes it works but you have to delete btcoreif.dll before starting tt7 and do a soft reset
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yes it works but you have to delete btcoreif.dll before starting tt7 and do a soft reset
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Thanks dreamH6!
Ähm sorry if I might look stupid, but how can I delete a single dll file from the Windows folder? I tried in Active Sync and directly from the ipaq file explorer but can neither replace nor rename nor delete it. And was also not able to change the file parameters.
using file explorer tap on 'show all files' to see the dll or try "total commander" file manager (needed for wm2003se)