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hi all,
I've installed a raft of apps in the last few days (perhaps that was foolish) on my sim-free white Hero, and suddently the battery life has gone to pieces. It now won't even last the night *in standby with wifi off*.
Any ideas as to the known battery killers, or any way I can track down which is causing this? I don't really have to want to start removing apps at random and monitoring.
There's nothing particularly unusual in my list of running apps, following a power cycle (is there?):
Shake Awake, NetCounter, AK Notepad, OI Update & Countdown, Tube Status, Battery Widget, BBC News widget, Peep
(although that does raise a separate question: why do things like ShopSavvy, AK Notepad, start at boot, when presumably they're not really doing anything until you use them?)
Of course, I have other things that get started asynchronously, just not at boot, e.g. SMS Popup.
anyone got any ideas, please?
thanks much indeed.
cdmackay said:
hi all,
I've installed a raft of apps in the last few days (perhaps that was foolish) on my sim-free white Hero, and suddently the battery life has gone to pieces. It now won't even last the night *in standby with wifi off*.
Any ideas as to the known battery killers, or any way I can track down which is causing this? I don't really have to want to start removing apps at random and monitoring.
There's nothing particularly unusual in my list of running apps, following a power cycle (is there?):
Shake Awake, NetCounter, AK Notepad, OI Update & Countdown, Tube Status, Battery Widget, BBC News widget, Peep
(although that does raise a separate question: why do things like ShopSavvy, AK Notepad, start at boot, when presumably they're not really doing anything until you use them?)
Of course, I have other things that get started asynchronously, just not at boot, e.g. SMS Popup.
anyone got any ideas, please?
thanks much indeed.
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I had the same issue when i put on battery widget, I saw the % going down while watching the phone.
oh! that's ironic
I do get the impression that it's more recent than that, but it could well be, I suppose. I'll remove it and see... thanks.
I've heard that the bbc widget drains the battery.
This is something Google should address with android market. The system should apply various forms of stress testing to all applications and rate them according to connectivity requirements, CPU load, power consumption etc.
I think for people who have a serious drain they need to hard reset and start again, put 1 program on at a time and leave it a day or so with that program on, finding out whats causing the drain.
Logically thinking, i'd expect it to be a program that is using internet in the background, like the bbc widget which could still be downloading without you knowing.
good points, ta.
I already noticed this. I checked the CPU load in idle mode and normally it should be around 10% (using "System Monitor").
Sometimes however, depending on what apps were running, it is increased to 30-40% and staying there constantly.
Closing all apps (incl. Sense) does not help either, the CPU load won't go down again until i make a complete device reset.
So i guess some processes are stuck in thise case causing the high load (and draining the battery empty).
My GPS did not disconnect, after foto geo-tagging, and that goes quick as well.
Also the BBC-app was installed, but got rid of it because I didn't use it. Might be a coincidence.
The BBC app polls really often. There's no setting to tell it how often to poll. It really kills the battery fast
I wonder though: even when the phone is in standby? something is killing me in standby. Oddly, it seems better if the phone is on
I'll try removing the BBC app overnight, and see...
then the battery widget tomorrow, etc...
cdmackay said:
I wonder though: even when the phone is in standby? something is killing me in standby. Oddly, it seems better if the phone is on
I'll try removing the BBC app overnight, and see...
then the battery widget tomorrow, etc...
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Turn on usb debugging... download the SDK.. cd into tools.. and run
adb logcat
or to send it to a file:
adb logcat > log.txt
(and ctrl + C to stop logging)
Inspect the log file and you'll see what its upto pretty quickly. Maybe its overkill, but I fire that up when it starts behaving strangly.
EDIT: err to answer your question.. yeah the widgets wake the phone up to grab new data, which eats battery. The BBC news one seems to be polling reallllly often, which is unecesarily using power.
quick update: removed BBC News and Battery Widget (separately), no change; phone still dies overnight, in fact in about 5 hours on standby, from a full battery, to totally dead.
I just this minute discovered that my phone whilst in standby is still polling my IMAP server to try and connect, and I have a huge inbox, which it was prob failing to get the headers for. Seems like a possible bug that it still does this whilst in standby, but I've disabled that account anyway. It might be the cause...
What do you mean by Standby? Just inactive? Airplane Mode?
sorry, poor terminology, perhaps. No, not airplane mode, just the screen-off state it goes into after a few minutes.
It does seem a little bit of a waste, if the phone is going to spend all night checking for new Twitter, Gmail, etc, updates, when I'm not awake to read them? So I'd naively assumed that perhaps it wouldn't do that when it's in the screen-off state. Unless you've asked for notification other than on the top bar, of course?
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It does seem a little bit of a waste, if the phone is going to spend all night checking for new Twitter, Gmail, etc, updates, when I'm not awake to read them?
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To be fair, the phone doesn't know when you're going to asleep now does it? (especially if you're a night worker).
I notice that there's an application in the market now which can automatically turn airplane mode on according to a schedule, so that may help but of course this does mean you won't get phone calls!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
To be fair, the phone doesn't know when you're going to asleep now does it? (especially if you're a night worker).
I notice that there's an application in the market now which can automatically turn airplane mode on according to a schedule, so that may help but of course this does mean you won't get phone calls!
Regards,
Dave
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No it doesn't but I'm developing a widget which will disable data access at certain times (dependent on user) so overnight it wont use data and save battery.
foxmeister said:
To be fair, the phone doesn't know when you're going to asleep now does it? (especially if you're a night worker).
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Right; I really meant the following, but worded it wrongly...
I had expected apps not to do data access when the phone's screen is off, unless they have been configured to notify via sound, vibrate or light.
i.e. if an app either isn't notifying, or is only notifying via the top bar, then it should disable its data access when the screen is off.
That would mean a short delay in getting updates, when the screen is back on, but I'd rather have that than spending much battery time pointless checking for updates when I'm not going to see them for ages, whether that's at night or just when the phone is sitting on the desk for hours.
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No it doesn't but I'm developing a widget which will disable data access at certain times (dependent on user) so overnight it wont use data and save battery.
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aha! that sounds great, thanks in advance
would you update us here when you have something testable, please?
and if it's not pushing my luck to ask: any chance that it might also have a manual switch too, for those of us who go to bed at wildly different times?
Or perhaps there is already a way to disable data access manually, with a single setting change, without disabling the phone? I think there might be...
ah yes indeed, there's even an HTC widget to disable mobile networking, whilst leaving phone enabled. That will do for now
I know there might be a dozen threads about this, but its all gobbledygook and nobody seems to have a straight answer.
I just want to ask: What can we possibly do about Froyo draining our battery? Task manager auto-killers aren't working right now it seems.
Turn off 4G
Turn off WiFi
Turn off GPS
Turn down brightness
Stop opening crap
Problem solved.
Task Managers??? Are you kidding me? My battery life has doubled since Froyo because I dont use task managers or auto killers. Use Fresh Rom, with set cpu with perflock off, change the screen off to 245/245. Most important part is condition your battery...Trust me, i thought it was stupid as well, but it works.
drmacinyasha said:
Turn off 4G
Turn off WiFi
Turn off GPS
Turn down brightness
Stop opening crap
Problem solved.
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haha thats funny and true so i like it. i am running froyo official and have noticed an increase in battery. but hey when you get near your computer plug your phone in when you get in your car plug your phone in.
Froyo Killed Your Parents??
Sorry To Hear About Your Parents
R.I.P.
theres not much else u can do..just wait for a fix
I have ota and its the worst batterie ever with out doing nothing not even a phone call it died under an hour i only have gps enable had 3g off 4g to app all close no auto killer
Htc Evil Phone
I have the same problem. I read reports that Facebook 1.3 will not release the partial wake lock. I took FB 1.3 off and the problem persisted.
Here is how to check if you have a problem with your partial wake lock:
goto settings > about phone > battery and compare the uptime and awake time. If they are the same or very very close you have a wake lock problem. A wake lock allows an app to prevent your phone from going to sleep, even if the screen is off. If these times match then an app is creating a wake lock and not releasing it, and therefore your phone never sleeps.
As I said removing FB 1.3 did not solve the problem, but I was able to prove it is a wake lock as using Advanced Task Killer to kill 21 tasks allowed my phone to actually sleep, as indicated by a corresponding difference in the two times. So now that I know this is an app doing it, I will try to narrow it down and figure out which and report back.
OK I just found it. It appears the LED Light widget also causes a partial wake lock. To alleviate you don't need to uninstall it, just remove the widget.
Which led light? From market or the one with 2.2?
Borg1982 said:
Which led light? From market or the one with 2.2?
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The new "flashlight" app is not a widget...It's actually called LED Light, by picolyl.
I don't have a problem, for me is little better!!!! just buy a new battery that solve your problem
drmacinyasha said:
Turn off 4G
Turn off WiFi
Turn off GPS
Turn down brightness
Stop opening crap
Problem solved.
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Problem NOT solved. Or maybe 15 extra minutes.
Or don't use it at all, you'll save plenty of battery
Check to make sure that your Google Talk app is not automatically signing in. Go to apps - talk - settings. This is a typical battery drainer
totally forgot about google talk. have flashed a few ROMs back and forth, and now running a stock rooted ROM, I forgot to shut this one off...
use a custom rom, something without sense and try not to have a f***ton of widgets. im running cyanogen nightly and i get about 10 hours before i hit 20%-30% thats when i quit doing stuff and start trying to make the battery last. screen eats most of the battery so turn the brightness down.
my average 10 hours is 75-125 txts 30 + or - min of talk time and 3+ hours of internet (facebook)
oh, and about your parents... they are gone, there isnt an app or a rom that can fix that.
Indeed, the title of this thread is goofy. Froyo has literally killed my parents....... and has done a bad job for my battery life on my phone. Haha!
I guess an apostrophe would not have hurt after the word "parents" eh?
Doing a factory reset will fix your problem... I had the same problem when I updated.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
opie2l said:
Doing a factory reset will fix your problem... I had the same problem when I updated.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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I'm having similar issues with my OMJ 2.2 froyo rom. poor battery life, plus it seems laggy and unresponsive. i was much happier with OMJ's 2.1 rom
I haven't installed this yet but I was hoping to get some feedback as to what improvements (or bugs, oye) people have actually seen. I have read some posts about much better GPS locking, but what about 3G radio issues, Hotspot functionality, the mic being disabled when using Bluetooth, battery performance, etc? Post the changes you've seen! FYI, here is the official list:
Optimized, HotSpot in 3G idle mode to help conserve battery power
Optimized, Applied Qualcomm patch for performance enhancement
Added, Media Hub
Modified, WiMAX exit delay
Modified, UI "Noisey" One to "Noisy One"
Fixed, 32GB mSD card is not recongized when formatted in device
Fixed, When playing video, the playback is paused if a headset is connected/disconnected
Fixed, Sorry popup when DRM file is selected in the Gallery
Fixed, Hotspot registration/deregistration
I'll let you know when I get it... if I get it.............
My GPS actually works. Wierd.
Last night I attempted to use Cardio Trainer without the "Use Wireless Networks" turned on and it never got a satellite lock. I rebooted the phone and it still had the same behavior.
Today, after I updated, I tested just for the fun of it and it got a satellite lock almost immediately with wireless networks turned off.
It appears that's the first thing I've noticed other than the hub that is better.
For me it has fixed my only known issue. I am new to Android so might not know about all that is happening but I only had one problem with the Epic. That is whenever I tried to send videos via MMS or Email it would lock the phone until the message was sent. I am very pleased to report that the problem no longer exists with the update. I never had a GPS problem or a back button problem or any other issues that I knew of. So I am very happy. Now bring on 2.2!
Just noticed something.
Before the update, it used to say "Flight Mode" instead of "Airplane Mode". Now it's saying "Airplane Mode" like my daughters' moments.
GPS is still fail for me, after ephemeris data expires.
hydralisk said:
I'll let you know when I get it... if I get it.............
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You know you can update manually even without root? Original info found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785028
-download this:http://www.droidbin.com/index.php/files/get/iv_p2mYBQH/cec94babb124.update-dg27-to-di07.zip
-rename to update keep zip extension
-put on root of sd card
-power off phone
-hold down volume down + camera button + power until recovery screen shows
-use volume buttons to highlight flash update.zip file
-press home key on front of phone to select
My TWS has dropped to 8% without the airplane mode toggle. It used to be around 50% without toggling airplane mode.
krazyflipj said:
You know you can update manually even without root? Original info found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785028
-download this:http://www.droidbin.com/index.php/files/get/iv_p2mYBQH/cec94babb124.update-dg27-to-di07.zip
-rename to update keep zip extension
-put on root of sd card
-power off phone
-hold down volume down + camera button + power until recovery screen shows
-use volume buttons to highlight flash update.zip file
-press home key on front of phone to select
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I didn't realize this worked for non-rooted users. Thanks for the info Just applied it and it works. Yay for no longer having to wait for Sprint
oh ya gps is definitely much better
I know I'm not the only one, but I noticed that I have 10-20mb more free memory according to ATK.
jaig said:
My TWS has dropped to 8% without the airplane mode toggle. It used to be around 50% without toggling airplane mode.
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I was hoping that the "Qualcomm patch" would take care of this issue. Looks like it did for you. I haven't applied the update yet, need to de-root and flash to stock first.
My upload still causes my phone to be choppy as hell ****ing epic is pissing me off.
J3ff said:
My upload still causes my phone to be choppy as hell ****ing epic is pissing me off.
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Sprint just confirmed this issue on the 13th. No way was that fix going to be in this update. Gonna be a while before they can pressure Samsung into fixing it.
Nothing for me.
Uploading on 3g still causes LOTS of locking up.
Upload is still 150k or less.
Gps will probably still suck after 24 hours
I'm pretty pissed about this phone to be honest.
Just (and I mean JUST) got a notification aboot the Epic software update, but my battery is too low to apply, irony, heh. Will report back with any findings soon.
I tried to use the update.zip method, but didnt work on my phone.
got an assert failed: apply_patch_check blahblahblah error message
E:Error in /sdcard/update.ip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.
And when I try to look for update via Update Android, it shows system up to date
Updated but now cell standby is eating up my battery bad. Tried doing the Airplane toggle but still is hitting 55%+ when it used to be display eating it.
I have noticed that my battery "seems" to discharge when being used, just a little bit slower. Another thing I have observed is that when the phone is being charged by a "more than capable" charger, the battery will read a full charge after the level has been sitting at 100% for a while per battery indicator pro. Another thing I've noticed is that I can charge the battery (with a beefy charger) and use the phone (a online radio or pandora radio) at the same time and the battery will actually charge and run the phone. Even after it stops charging at 100%, it will stay there and not run down as long as I keep it on the charger. My test was running streaming radio with the screen off and charging. I have not tried anything more than that.
Receive signal from the tower seems a little better. There is one strange thing going on though. I can sit in a spot that I am getting full signal strength from the tower, yet sometimes signal goes completely to no bars for a few seconds then goes back to full. I don't have any theories with that one.
That's all I've found so far that seems different than before. I haven't tried much else, just normal everyday usage. I am running completely stock everything at the moment. I'm not going to install clockwork until it's completely working and all the bugs are ironed out. The same thing with any mods or roms or kernels. I'm gonna run stock until all the extra stuff gets most of the major bugs ironed out. The phone is running good for now so I ain't gonna fix it.
I'm downloading the update to apply manually myself ATM.. rather than waiting for Sprint to push it OTA to me.. heh....
I'll report back anything that I notice that may be better.. currently my phone has the TWS illness as well.. Juice Defender has helped but I shouldn't have to resort to an add-on app to get a day's use out of a brand new device..
Hopefully this will work well..
So, here's my issue: I started to notice that bluetooth audio, which was usually good, started to suddenly cut in and out. At the same time, my battery life went to pot, and the top battery sucker was the Bluetooth share. I also noticed that the phone got really hot and very slow when charging when all of this was happening (usually I don't have to worry about the phone getting super hot when charging and using bluetooth).
I installed BBS and GSAM, and they both basically told me that the phone was not going to sleep because the bluetooth share was keeping it away. I even tried installing Naptime, and the phone still refuses to go into deep sleep, and the bluetooth share keeps sucking battery.
So here's what I've done so far...
- Uninstalled recent apps, no change
- Clear Bluetooth share, restart phone, no change
- Unpair all bluetooth devices, no change
- Restart phone (several times), no change
- Start the phone in safe mode, phone behaves normally....
In the course of trying to figure out what's going on, I basically uninstalled every app and the bluetooth share was still keeping my phone awake.
The only way I've found that fixes this issue is to completely format the phone and reinstall stock firmware. And I don't mean just to fastboot flash system system.img, I mean I have to fastboot erase system and then flash the system in order for bluetooth to behave. After I do this, and reinstall all my usual apps (I allow Google to download them, then I use titanium backup to restore the data on apps that don't sync their own data), the phone works brilliantly for about a week and a half, then the ordeal starts all over again.
The only thing I haven't tried is going bone stock... when I reinstall my phone I root and put Frankenclar on it. I used to use Xposed, but I tried going without to see if that made a difference... and, nope. Even without Xposed the bluetooth share keeps the phone awake.
I've started going through the steps to contact Moto, but they may balk because I've unlocked my phone (even though the warranty says valid).
Any ideas??
Oh, I'm on Verizon, so my choice of roms are limited... and I really like the wake on approach, twist for camera, chop for flashlight, and being able to call to my phone when the screen is off and it's not charging.
Thanks for your time!
Okay, so for anyone else who may be having an issue like this... here was my problem:
After doing a lot of searching online, I discovered that the CVS app was causing the issue. Apparently CVS uses bluetooth beacons to discover your location and push "deals" to your phone. Only, this causes the phone to never go to sleep and causes the bluetooth to stay active and scanning.
So I uninstalled the CVS app, restarted the phone, and have been happy ever since. The app was handy, and some people have said that disabling the location ability in the app permissions may fix it, so I might try that later.
In addition, the Gasbuddy app has also caused similar issues, so if you have random battery drain and have either Gasbuddy or CVS installed, try uninstalling those and see if it helps.
when turning my wifi off it seems it goes into some weird loop of turning on and off constantly by itself, it doesn't seem to be trying to connect just flipping the wifi switch on and off none stop.
noticed it because i had a huge battery daring overnight and while trying to fix it i saw the switch going off and on all the time.
when turning it back on it seems to connect normally .
did a network setting rest but it did nothing ...
I'm guessing a factory rest will fix the problem but I'm hoping to avoid such a overkill solution :crying:
does anyone else had this problem and can help me fix it?
thanx!
avivzamir said:
when turning my wifi off it seems it goes into some weird loop of turning on and off constantly by itself, it doesn't seem to be trying to connect just flipping the wifi switch on and off none stop.
noticed it because i had a huge battery daring overnight and while trying to fix it i saw the switch going off and on all the time.
when turning it back on it seems to connect normally .
did a network setting rest but it did nothing ...
I'm guessing a factory rest will fix the problem but I'm hoping to avoid such a overkill solution :crying:
does anyone else had this problem and can help me fix it?
thanx!
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This was on a new custom rom ?
Or did it just happend on a rom that have worked perfect for days?
And have you seen which app or system app been casuing the drain?
LyLu said:
This was on a new custom rom ?
Or did it just happend on a rom that have worked perfect for days?
And have you seen which app or system app been casuing the drain?
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original samsung rom.
just happened (i have the device for a a while everything was fine) its the android system that drains the battery in the battery status.
when i leave the wifi on it stops and works fine ...
Have you turned off ''Keep Wifi During Sleep''? I know this can drain battery.
It's not so easy to troubleshoot on an orginal none rooted phone.
You can try clearing dalvik and cache.
Turn it off and then on holding power and vol down button, then clear cach/dalvik and restart.
Try uninstall update beaming service for samsung then restart
If still persistent try uninstall update microsoft onedrive and skype then restart, just in case
I found it after factory reset (forgot internal data backup :crying and update all apps, this problem occuring after the last 3 updates (beaming, onedrive, & skype) which more suspect beaming service update make that problem
Your not alone
You're not the only one who suffer from this exact problem, on Friday or Saturday the same problem started occurring with my phone too, WiFi turns on and off in a loop and huge battery drain!
I saw an increase of 6% of battery drain per hour, so I ended up on 9% total drain every hour. :crying:
I have original Samsung Rom and phone worked prefect until now, no settings or apps installed before this happened either.
What rom version are you guys on?
I'm having the same issue. However, I'm on PhoenixX Rom. Major battery killer and has only just started happening within the past few days.
Since my phone has been unplugged, 3 hours ago, looking at BetterBatteryStats, It is showing com.google.android.gms as having quite a LOT of wakeups. 40 per hour (everything else is about 2). Don't know if this is normal as I don't remember it before the Wifi issue.
Looking into what the wake ups are caused from, Location and heartbeat were the major culprits. So i have turned of WIFI scanning when not on and also the body sensors for Google Play. We shall see.
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Easy fix. Just disable Wi-Fi scanning.
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Easy fix. Just disable Wi-Fi scanning.
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its not a fix at all . it dosnt scan for wifi , just turning it on and off non stop.
like pressing the light switch agin and agin
I had this after installing "GoodLock" software from Samsung! Uninstalled and everything is ok
same here, just noticed I wasnt on Wifi and the switch is just flicking on and off by itself. Standard S7 with all the updates installed
Been struggling with the same for some days (4 - 5) I haven't been able to get exactly whats triggering this. I'm on stock rom with root. I've reinstalled firmware clean again and re downloaded my apps but it is still happening randomly. Some times after a few attempts to switch wifi on (even when it is toggling by itself) it manages to keep on. Sometimes restarting makes it work again. One thing I'm almost certain its that this usually happens after I turn wifi OFF and then try to turn it back on.
It's been crazy and the phone starts to overheat after a while off this on-off loop.
Any ideas?
its very wierd it started to all of us in the past few days-weeks . seems like samsung has a bug they need to hurry up and fix.
AT&T just pushed out the October Security update for the S7 family, I'm guessing something that came along with it is creating the problem.
mine did a software update last week and I've been away in airplane mode so it could have started then. I've just disabled scanning and that seems to have got round the issue and I'm now connected to WifI
I'm not sure whether it is a Samsung Issue or a Third party one... It is true that something recently affected all of us, but as far as I know, it could be a third party app that wasn't well developed for our phone.
I've noticed the same problem on my phone and it's also only started up in the last few days. On stock Sammy rom, unrooted. Will be monitoring this thread to see if the experts here can narrow down the culprit.
I had the same issue and I was able to stop the toggle by turning off the wifi scanning in Location - Improve Accuracy - WiFi scanning. It's a fix for now. I think it may be an app that may have been updates that is persistently looking for location updates.