Hey guys just upgraded to Atrix liking it so far! Never had unlimited data before but couldn't justify having it without unlimited data so been researching the current loophole and just wanted to share what I found out.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone 2G before
2) Hard reset the iphone, put in your simcard, and register the iPhone 2G in iTunes. You will be asked to confirm you agree to $20/month unlimited 2g data + 200 text messages.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Find a CSR that will change your Iphone 2g plan to unlimited smartphone personal. I tried over the phone multiple times and they kept on saying they couldn't do it since the unlimited plan didn't exist before June 2010. I was about to give up but went to a retail location and the guy did it on his computer.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
NOTE: Whatever you do DO NOT let them change your data plan off the iPhone data plan. If you lose that plan you need a new simcard and to start over. I think I may have had more difficulties cause I am on a business account, but it still worked!
I am almost certain that you came in my store and I did this for you hahahah
I had someone come in my store this evening who did the samething...we werent in san diego but he lived there
good find though, ill let my customers know that..might be worth it to invest in an iphone 2g and leave it at my store for customers to use
MarcMaiden said:
I am almost certain that you came in my store and I did this for you hahahah
I had someone come in my store this evening who did the samething...we werent in san diego but he lived there
good find though, ill let my customers know that..might be worth it to invest in an iphone 2g and leave it at my store for customers to use
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Hmm.... Awkward lol.
I'm Confused. So with this I'm limited to 200 text messages a month? And what exactally do I ask the csr to change in the store? Wouldn't the regular 2g data plan work on the atrix?
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Does it stay $20/month...?
what you are doing is making your phone an Iphone 2g.
making your phone an Iphone 2g gives you the unlimited 2g data (that comes with 200 texts as well) for $20.
Our in store systems allow us to go from unlimited 2g $20 to the unlimited 3g/4g data for $30 giving you unlimited data to your atrix/inspire/captivate if you didnt have it before.
MarcMaiden said:
what you are doing is making your phone an Iphone 2g.
making your phone an Iphone 2g gives you the unlimited 2g data (that comes with 200 texts as well) for $20.
Our in store systems allow us to go from unlimited 2g $20 to the unlimited 3g/4g data for $30 giving you unlimited data to your atrix/inspire/captivate if you didnt have it before.
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You must be the coolest AT&T rep ever! haha
Moving off the EDGE network
I don't know about anywhere else around the country but AT&T is slowly migrating everybody off of the 2G / EDGE network. I don't know how much longer AT&T will allow you to activate 2G iPhones on the network.
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You must be the coolest AT&T rep ever! haha
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Yes he is!
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Yes he is!
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So after this is done, is it $30 per month, with unlimited data? Also, am I still limited to the 200 text?
Thanks for your help.
W0nderBread said:
Hey guys just upgraded to Atrix liking it so far! Never had unlimited data before but couldn't justify having it without unlimited data so been researching the current loophole and just wanted to share what I found out.
1) You must have an iPhone 2G, and a sim card that has never been registered to an iPhone before
2) Hard reset the iphone, put in your simcard, and register the iPhone 2G in iTunes. You will be asked to confirm you agree to $20/month unlimited 2g data + 200 text messages.
3) Check online account to see if plan went through, or call 611 and confirm.
4) Find a CSR that will change your Iphone 2g plan to unlimited smartphone personal. I tried over the phone multiple times and they kept on saying they couldn't do it since the unlimited plan didn't exist before June 2010. I was about to give up but went to a retail location and the guy did it on his computer.
5) Enjoy your unlimited data!
NOTE: Whatever you do DO NOT let them change your data plan off the iPhone data plan. If you lose that plan you need a new simcard and to start over. I think I may have had more difficulties cause I am on a business account, but it still worked!
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Or you can "request" unlimited data with customer service on a new 2yr contract upgrade or new you have to do it through customer service and it might take a few calls Ive been able to add it without a problem on 4 lines last weekend. If you have 2g/3g data on the device you may experience service issues more awkward than normal by using this method in the OP I had a 3g unlimited on my main line and upgraded without change and pages barley loaded with full bars, this is not recommended to use the iphone data plan.
Will update with the feature code and name as soon as I can.
Would this work with an iPhone 3g? My friend has one lying around I could probably borrow to swing this. Also wondering about the ability to get unlimited texts.
edit: And I'll probably try the whole, calling customer service until I get what I want, plan soon.
exume said:
Would this work with an iPhone 3g? My friend has one lying around I could probably borrow to swing this. Also wondering about the ability to get unlimited texts.
edit: And I'll probably try the whole, calling customer service until I get what I want, plan soon.
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No it won't work for a iPhone 3G. The reason this works for the original iPhone is that the only option for the phone is unlimited data. The 200 text messages has no affect on you if you have family messaging unlmited etc. Even if you have unlimited text you can always call back in to get it added back on.
So i tried to do the trick with an Iphone 2G, I checked online to verify and i think it went fine. Also online it gives me an option to change my Iphone Data plan to the Smartphone Bundles (1. SmartPhone Personal Unlimited Data with 1500 Message for $39.99 2.SmartPhone Personal Unlimited Data with 200 Messages for $35.00 3. Smartphone Personal Unlimited Data for $30)
Should i keep the Iphone Data plan or change it to the SmartPhone Personal plans?
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So i tried to do the trick with an Iphone 2G, I checked online to verify and i think it went fine. Also online it gives me an option to change my Iphone Data plan to the Smartphone Bundles (1. SmartPhone Personal Unlimited Data with 1500 Message for $39.99 2.SmartPhone Personal Unlimited Data with 200 Messages for $35.00 3. Smartphone Personal Unlimited Data for $30)
Should i keep the Iphone Data plan or change it to the SmartPhone Personal plans?
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Option 3 is a current unlimited smart phone data plan for the device, its thinking you had it and changed devices use this option so that way the data plan will work correctly for the device. You'll still have $30 unlimited data aswell.
If you are getting the option for smartphone personal unlimited that is the correct data plan for the atrix. iPhone plan doesn't support 4G as far as I know, if that ever happens.
This trick is more common for iPhone 4 users, where once they plug the sim back into the iPhone 4 the system automatically detects it is not a 2G device within a few hours and auto upgrades them to the $30/month iPhone data plan with a text messages alerting the customer. Chances are you will not be able to stay on the $20/month plan so I'd switch before AT&T realizes you are using a 2G iPhone data plan on an Atrix.
I should be good if i change it to the SmartPhone Personal Unlimited Data with 1500Message for $39.99 right?
Yes, It's still a smartphone unlimited data plan!
it's giving me this error when i try to process it.
What should i do now? call customer service?
(CONFLICT RESOLUTION
The following features added to your device are in conflict with an existing required feature:
SmartPhone Personal with 1500 Messages
The following features are required for your device and cannot be deleted:
iPhone Data Plan + 1500 Text
Please click the 'Continue' button to return to the Manage Features page to make another feature selection for your device.)
You are never limited to 200 texts even on the original $20 iphone plan. You can still add a text plan on top of it. It just uses your 200 and then starts using whatever else you have on plan.
But when you move to the $30 plan you lose the texts anyway.
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okay so I have had my used mytouch 3g ever since february of 2009. It was rooted so I always turned off data and used only wifi. my tmobile family plan contains 750 minutes + unlimited texts (we text a lot but talk less).
By contract expired last month I believe.. so we are not in contract with tmobile but on month to month basis. so tonight I receive a text message from 456 stating that I have added data plan on my mytouch line. I go online and log in and I am unable to take it off, also it states "extra services"- tmobile 4g plan... I don't even OWN a hspa device. so I was wondering if you guys with no data are getting data forced upon you on your device. g1, mytouch etc... oh btw I tested the data by going to facebook while turning off wifi, it worked and said (on the my account page) I used 0.61kb/ unlimited.... wtf
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okay so I have had my used mytouch 3g ever since february of 2009. It was rooted so I always turned off data and used only wifi. my tmobile family plan contains 750 minutes + unlimited texts (we text a lot but talk less).
By contract expired last month I believe.. so we are not in contract with tmobile but on month to month basis. so tonight I receive a text message from 456 stating that I have added data plan on my mytouch line. I go online and log in and I am unable to take it off, also it states "extra services"- tmobile 4g plan... I don't even OWN a hspa device. so I was wondering if you guys with no data are getting data forced upon you on your device. g1, mytouch etc... oh btw I tested the data by going to facebook while turning off wifi, it worked and said (on the my account page) I used 0.61kb/ unlimited.... wtf
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Stupid question but did you buy the phone from tmobile at a discount price? If so you are required to have the data service with a smartphone device maybe they never put it on your account before and just now noticed this trust me that kinda crap happens unfortunately the only thing I could say is to call them and have it removed because the unlimited is like $30 a month now they cannot force you to keep since your outside the contract
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And unfortunately they can charge you for the 4g plan even if you don't have a device that supports it. Its because the service is available to you sprint does the same thing if im not mistaken.
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raziel26 said:
Stupid question but did you buy the phone from tmobile at a discount price? If so you are required to have the data service with a smartphone device maybe they never put it on your account before and just now noticed this trust me that kinda crap happens unfortunately the only thing I could say is to call them and have it removed because the unlimited is like $30 a month now they cannot force you to keep since your outside the contract
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nope, bought it off some guy from craigslist. like I said I have been using the device for 11 months with no data, but I am hearing that they took off the "sidekick" plan which is the web 2 go, that might be the issue. although I never had web2go, I changed my apn anyway to point to wap.voicestream.net instead of epc.xxxx (default). that way I won't be charged for unwanted data. Now I checked my apn. HSPA and 3g keeps overriding it even if I put a null or a wildcard apn on the settings...I am thinking these guys use the imie number to figure out your device and impose automatic data plan on you (like at&t)
looks like I will have to call tmo and threaten to leave if they don't take my plan off...
also there has been an unnneccassry download charged on my dads account 9.99$ which he says he didn't download... wtf tmobile is soliciting!
oh offtopic but I am also in the verge of picking up a nexus S, I was thinking about getting the 800 mb data (for activation purposes) and canceling it within a month. looks like that won't be happening since tmobile might have changed their policy.
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okay so I have had my used mytouch 3g ever since february of 2009. It was rooted so I always turned off data and used only wifi. my tmobile family plan contains 750 minutes + unlimited texts (we text a lot but talk less).
By contract expired last month I believe.. so we are not in contract with tmobile but on month to month basis. so tonight I receive a text message from 456 stating that I have added data plan on my mytouch line. I go online and log in and I am unable to take it off, also it states "extra services"- tmobile 4g plan... I don't even OWN a hspa device. so I was wondering if you guys with no data are getting data forced upon you on your device. g1, mytouch etc... oh btw I tested the data by going to facebook while turning off wifi, it worked and said (on the my account page) I used 0.61kb/ unlimited.... wtf
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First off, your HTC MAGIC is most definitely an HSPA device, 7.2 Mb/s max. What you don't have, is HSPA+.
Second... sorry, but tmobile are being real douchebags with this one. On one hand, they do have one reason for doing this besides ripping you off... and that is to prevent all the $572891.55 data usage bills from people who "don't use data". Force everyone into an unlimited data plan, and you don't need to deal with this support crap.
HOWEVER, it is still a ripoff. They *should* offer you a choice between all or none, which would also guarantee that you don't get an insane bill. Unfortunately though, that would mean that they get no data revenue from you.
You should probably call and complain about it. Tell them that you want data cut off ENTIRELY. Worst they'll do is say no. If they do that, tell them you're switching to ATT, who will give you a voice-only plan no questions asked. If they say something stupid like "att 3g isn't compatible", your response is "who cares? I'm not using data, so 2g is just as good."
Try it. Threats to leave can be good arguments.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
ATT is selling this type of data plan with the new ATRIX, what kind of impact could this have on us UNLIMITED 'Grandfathered' users that were thinking about buying the phone outright?
if i put my 3G card in, am i gonna get hosed? is ATT going to automatically try and switch my data plan to the 'required' plan for the 4G phone? even though i bought it outright? am i possibly going to have to fight to get the 'GFD' plan back after?
i know its all speculation at this point because the actual phone isnt out yet, but my gut tells me we might not like the answer...
I was wondering about the same thing, but I don't think we have to worry right now, I intend to get it then use it and in a month check, should they mess with me, I'll pull the information straight from their website with a datestamp that I printed stating that Grandfathered in gets to keep their plan. It really would be as simple as letting me keep it or I'll take my company off AT&T.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...ls.jsp?q_package=sku5100371&_requestid=618639
DataPro 2GB for HSPA+/4G Smartphone includes 2GB. Once 2GB is exceeded, an additional 1GB is automatically provided at a rate of $10 for each additional 1GB provided. Unused data usage does not carry over. For HSPA+/4G SmartPhones ONLY.
ATT is selling this type of data plan with the new ATRIX, what kind of impact could this have on us UNLIMITED 'Grandfathered' users that were thinking about buying the phone outright?
if i put my 3G card in, am i gonna get hosed? is ATT going to automatically try and switch my data plan to the 'required' plan for the 4G phone? even though i bought it outright? am i possibly going to have to fight to get the 'GFD' plan back after?
i know its all speculation at this point because the actual phone isnt out yet, but my gut tells me we might not like the answer...
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naturefreak85 said:
I was wondering about the same thing, but I don't think we have to worry right now, I intend to get it then use it and in a month check, should they mess with me, I'll pull the information straight from their website with a datestamp that I printed stating that Grandfathered in gets to keep their plan. It really would be as simple as letting me keep it or I'll take my company off AT&T.
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I was able to "upgrade" to the Atrix and i checked the option that said "I do not want to make changes to my data plan" since i am grandfathered in as truly "unlimited".
I dont expect to see any changes once i put my SIM card in. They relaxed their "grandfather" clause a little recently and im guessing what i experienced is exactly that. before they FORCED you to change your plan. Now you have an option.
For people with unlimited plans, you can still keep it, it becomes an option on the data plan picker that only someone with an unlimited plan can see. And yes it is 4g ready. And no it doesn't cost any more money.
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It is not a problem at all.
All you have to do is swap the sim. cards and you are good to go. Your plan does not change at all and AT$T isn't going to penalize you.
They are losing 16% of their customers do to the iphone switch.
Yeah it won't be a problem switching from 3g to 4g unlimited ...I recently purchased the inspire all they did was change the code for the plan in the system for me,vi popped my sim card in and have hspa+ unlimited
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Trust me you can keep your unlimited data.
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I have a tangential question.
I know going over 2GB adds 1GB for $10 on Data Pro. But what if you exceed the 150mb on the Data lite? Does it auto bump you to 2GB and Data Pro for the month?
If you have the unlimited data theres a new HSPA+ version of the unlimited plan that your moved to
in regards to the $15 plan its actually 200mB, not 150, if you go over your charged another 15 for another 200, if you go over that your billed another 15 for 200 more and so forth
Lastly if your buying a device like the Atrix your a moron to think 200MB for an entire month is going to cut it, in my opinion that plan shouldnt even be offered
Hehe, so they charge you another $15 for 200MB but on the other plan its $10 for 1GB? Terrible.
I agree with you a 200MB plan likely wont get you anywhere unless you are covered by wi-fi everywhere you go and otherwise don't use data almost at all.
Also, how does tehthering work if you have a grandfathered unlimited plan? And could you not just root and use thethering without having the tetherming plan? Say if you were on the 2GB plan.
Ive never quite understood the covered everywhere by wifi don't have wifi driving or everywhere that you travel, unless you never leave the house
If you want tethering, officially through ATT you have to get the 45 dollar 4gb plan, and lose the unlimited
An app like PDAnet would be a solution for tethering to keep the unlim plan and you dont even need to be rooted to run it
I still have my unlimited data and my Inspire
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It is not a problem at all.
All you have to do is swap the sim. cards and you are good to go. Your plan does not change at all and AT$T isn't going to penalize you.
They are losing 16% of their customers do to the iphone switch.
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lol you're absolutely insane if you believe that to be true. Every business analyst website worth its money on the internet is saying Verizon didn't make much of an impact with the release of the iPhone4. They sold a lot of iPhones...but an estimated 90% of them were to people that were already Verizon subscribers. The 1 million iPhones that they keep quoting was *ONLY* to pre-orders made by Verizon customers.
Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. AT&T already said before the phone was announced they would move grandfathered unlimited plans ahead with new contracts (same thing happened with their last launch).
I'm glad to hear that AT&T is allowing us to keep our grandfathered unlimited plans. I've been planning on moving up to Android with the Atrix but was dreading losing my unlimited data plan that I've got on my current iPhone 3G.
If everything works out like everyone here is saying then it looks like I'll get to have my cake and eat it too.
I plan on switching to this phone from my
Data Pro 2gb 3g - $25
And I am wondering if any fees will be applied if I swapped my sim into the Atrix.
Also I am switching my Captivate with someone that is upgrading and wonder if their 4g data be switched out with a 3g data plan because of the 3g Captivate
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I plan on switching to this phone from my
Data Pro 2gb 3g - $25
And I am wondering if any fees will be applied if I swapped my sim into the Atrix.
Also I am switching my Captivate with someone that is upgrading and wonder if their 4g data be switched out with a 3g data plan because of the 3g Captivate
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I asked ATT about a "4g plan", and to their knowledge it does not exist. There is a 25/month (or 15/mo if you are on the 200 mb) data plan. period. It doesnt matter if you are 3g or 4g or justin beiber 6g. Its all the same price and the same plan... for now.
Alright thanks lemme know any updates
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FALSE. I got my wife the inspire 4g, and yes, the rep changed her from unlimited data(captivate) to unlimited 4G data(inspire, atrix etc.). So yes, you do have to make a switch to "4G." Try taking your sim card straight from your captivate, or any other 3g phone and put it in the atrix, you can make calls and text, but no data connection.
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FALSE. I got my wife the inspire 4g, and yes, the rep changed her from unlimited data(captivate) to unlimited 4G data(inspire, atrix etc.). So yes, you do have to make a switch to "4G." Try taking your sim card straight from your captivate, or any other 3g phone and put it in the atrix, you can make calls and text, but no data connection.
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Did you get the Inspire 4G before AT&T relaxed their "Unlimited Grandfather in clause"? If o, that may have been your problem. Recently (2 months or so) they have said that if you have real unlimited plan and upgrade, you can keep your plan. You dont have to change. This is different to what they were saying when the iPHone 4 came out. Get iPhone 4 and you NEED to change your plan.
Also in regards to just putting in your SIM card into an Atrix, Do you have one? Did you try this? Or are you basing this on your Inspire experience?
No dice on keeping "unlimited" plan!
My current ATT Blackberry Data plan is "unlimited" and shows up like this on the Premiere site:
GPRS WAP/BBRY UNLTD DOM - BBUB
I called to confirm that I would be able to keep my n=unlimited plan and they told me that it would be changed to the 2gb-$25 4G plan immediately upon power up of the Atrix... AND that I could not go back to the unlimited plan even if I return the Atrix within 30 days!
Is the above one of the "grandfathered" plans? And if so, how is everyone else here managing to keep their plan?
I had an iPhone4 before I got my atrix and I had unlimited data on my iphone, so I bought my atrix without a contract in order to keep that data plan. I received the following text message this morning:
Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4g data connection today
Right now i am beyond angry because it seems like they are just trying to take away my unlimited data. The reason I say this is because the iPhone 4 does the handshaking to get true HSUPA and my phone does not. Therefore I am paying for a plan with a service that doesnt even exist, where my original plan (for the iphone 4) actually covers HSUPA. Does anyone know a way around this? I definitely dont want to lose my unlimited data. Is there anyway to get out of my contract? I would just as soon switch carriers before giving into paying for a crappy data plan (no offense to anyone who has the plan, you just didnt have the option ) on a crappy carrier.
Thanks for the help in advance.
go on their website att.com
you can actually select an unlimited 4g plan i m pretty sure
pick it and report back
I switched from iPhone unlimited to Android unlimited - they will let you do that. But you will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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You will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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by motorola, att has nothing to do with it
They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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Yeah, it almost makes me want to switch to a tiered plan and just pay the $10 for an extra GB if I need it and avoid the throttling. It's quite frustrating. Makes me really want to switch to Sprint.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/12/sprints-dan-hesse-differentiates-between-unlimited-and-unlimit/
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-atrix-xoom-headed-to-sprint-with-wimax-4g-rumor-20110317/
They will grandfather you into the unlimited plan.. you didn't have to buy off contract to so that...
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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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some crazy dudes with an iphone was pulling 90gb/ month
a little much if u ask me ....
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1119791
it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
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My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
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The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
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it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
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like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
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I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
I have unlimited...
When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
You also didnt have to buy the phone out of contract. I bought mine with my upgrade for $200 and was grand fathered over too my 3g data plan which is called the Smart phone unlimited.
Verizon with there 17-20mb download on there LTE network is looking pretty good now. But thats still not even live in my area so it doesnt madder.
live4nyy said:
I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
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Well the OP stated that he had an iPhone before. If he had a BB before, I would have said a "non-BB data plan".
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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Well that's just not true at all.
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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You're in incorrect in that. Its unlimited regardless of network connection speed...
Try again...
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I went to. Costco and the Guy there kept me on my unlimited plan. I even called att to make sure and the Rep put me on hold so she could talk to the manager and they said I'm allowed to grandfather my plan.
If you guys are having trouble, ask the Rep to talk to the manager.
co.ag.2005 said:
proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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What he said! I switched from unlimited with iPhone 4 and have unlimited 4G data now on Atrix. They tried to tell me I had to pick one of their teired data plans and I said thanks but no thanks give me my grandfathered unlimited and they did.
paravorheim said:
When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
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I have no idea what that "4G" sim is going to do for you considering it won't be needed until AT&T rolls out LTE. The so-called "4G" that the Atrix uses (HSDPA+) is still a 3G technology and 3G sim cards work on it.
I just checked my bill and it says that my current data and messaging plan is set to expire on 04/07/2011. I can get a Smartphone Unlimited data and 1500 messaging for the same price. Haven't made any change yet. Will call AT&T Monday and see what happens.
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Verizon Wireless (NYSE:VZ) plans to eliminate the $30 per month unlimited data plan that it still provides to 3G customers who were "grandfathered" into the plan because they were data customers prior to the company's switch to tiered data pricing last July. Speaking at the 40th J.P. Morgan Technology, Media and Telecom conference, Verizon Communications CFO Fran Shammo said that as these 3G unlimited data plan customers migrate to 4G LTE, they will have to purchase the company's data-share plan (which Verizon plans to launch in mid-summer) and move off the $30 per month unlimited data plan. "Everyone will be on data share," Shammo said.
Verizon's data share plan is scheduled to launch in mid-summer but no pricing details have been announced. Shammo said that he believes this new plan will make it easier for families and small businesses to connect multiple devices. The industry, Shammo said, has constrained the market around connected devices because people think they need an additional data plan. "If I can add as many devices as I want, that is more efficient from a family perspective and a small business perspective," he said.
However, Shammo said that with the launch of this new data share plan, the industry will have to change a key metric--average revenue per user. Shammo said that Verizon will move to a "revenue per account" metric that will more accurately measure the company's business.
When asked how Verizon will drive customers to this new data share plan, Shammo said that LTE will be the anchor for the new plan and that as customers upgrade from 3G to LTE, they will have to be on a data share plan, allowing the company to sunset its unlimited 3G data plan. "A lot of our 3G base is on unlimited," Shammo said. "When they migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share. That is beneficial to us."
Read more: Verizon will kill 'grandfathered' unlimited data plans, push users to data share - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/...are/2012-05-16
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May 17th update from Verizon
Yesterday, Verizon Wireless CMO Fran Shammo caused quite a ruckus when he stated that users on grandfathered unlimited data plans would eventually be moved over to the carrier's new data share plans that are due to arrive this summer. Verizon has now clarified exactly how this will happen, and it really only matters if plan to get a new subsidized device.
In a statement provided to The New York Times, Verizon clarified that unlimited plans will no longer be an option for customers that upgrade their device once the new data share plans are available. Prior to this, customers that had unlimited data plans were able to continue to use them even if they upgraded their devices.
The full statement is as follows:
"- Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.
- When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.
- Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.
- The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones."
So that makes it pretty cut and dry. If you are a Verizon customer and you upgrade your smartphone after the new data share plans are released, you can kiss your unlimited data plan good bye. If you happen to still have an unlimited data plan and are eligible for an upgrade now, you might want to use it sooner rather than later.
source: Verizon Wireless,
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Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
4ktvs said:
Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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Did you get your account rebuilt ? cause your problems are not phone related
I did get it fixed after I reported them to the BBB and FCC on the same day. The issue's I had with the first phone were phone related, but the 2nd one is fine. I really don't know what they did, but they fixed it. Speeds were I live are really starting to suck, but are not under 3mbs so it's not all that bad. AT&T's H+ has hung in there well even with 109GB of use one time.
Any way I jumped in knowing this would likely be the case by the time I renewed. My bud that work's for them has hinted to me they would do this. ( I was sure he was right this time, but only the top dogs can do this.)
I was hoping to drop my AT&T phone at some point, but it look's like the black hole has come back.
To all on the unlimited plan's good luck and for your sake and mine by the way I hope this will not pass.
So should I buy a lte phone before they make the change and still get unlimited data for another 2 years our until I upgrade that?
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I would say if you need your unlimited plan, do it now/soon and you may be saved from the 2GB plan. I use the word MAY, becuase I have a fealing they may ax it for 4G users as well.
Only reason I went with verizon was for the gnexus and since sprint has it now when they do the switch I'll just go back to them *shudders* Horrible customer support
Don't think so I'm contracted and grandfathered in me and Verizon are gonna have a little talk
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Might have to look at Sprint, T-Mobile or AT&T on a media net plan. I pay $30 a month for unlimited now and rarely go over 2gigs because I use wifi so often, but as someone else mentioned on droidforums VZ keeps pushing new data-heavy apps like Netflix, touting how quickly you can download movies and music, etc. Google Music, Pandora, etc have excellent streaming, and HBO GO and other network apps are offering great shows and movies right on devices and 2GB/$30 a month is supposed to get it done? And f'ing $50 for 5GB?
Unlimited data was without question the main thing holding me to VZ, and while I can't deny that they have the best overall coverage as well AT&T is pretty good for voice and holy hell if every network but Verizon don't get the best phones. No HTC One on VZ most likely, never got the Galaxy SII in any variant, the Rezound was the only last run of HTCs of note that ever showed up, no decent Sonys. They're trying to shove Moto down our throats with increasing difficulty in unlocking the bootloaders and now this? Thanks Verizon, at least now my options are wide open.
Forgive me if my rant became incoherent at some point. My apologies to all.
Hopefully this does not apply to 4g phones. I will have to root a free 4g phone to replace my incredible 2
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4ktvs said:
Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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If that happens I'm switching to sprint they are going to have LTE in my area by the end if 2012
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I will switch back to AT&T if this happens
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http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
Fltmobileuser said:
http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
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Signed thanks
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sitizenx said:
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
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I spend 170 on my plan which is crazy and my moms side of the family spent 250 on 4 phones a month
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I've got 5 lines with them they take my unlimited Im gone
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Five lines four with smartphones on unlimited. My bill is 305...if my unlimited is taken, I will cancel them all. Go to Sprint, or to flip phones
but never Verizon again
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First post on the Verizon side. I've been on Sprint forever but am looking at converting to Verizon for their better coverage and better customer satisfaction (at least according to Consumer Reports). We went to the local Verizon store and it seems like we could save money by switching to their 2 year contract. But I want to confirm a couple of things with the forum, as I know sometimes you get, um, incomplete info from the sales folks.
On Sprint, you have to pay an additional charge to make the phone a hotspot. It is THE reason I rooted my S4, to be able to do that for free. I was told it is a free include on the Verizon smartphone plans. So can y'all confirm that is true, and talk about any issues/details I should know about? It would sure make the deal pretty sweet if that is included and pain free!
It sounds like it's easy to change the plan we are on for anticipated data usage. Most of the time, we have very little data usage during the month as we're almost always on a wifi connection. But we own an RV and can use a lot of data (hotspot) when on the road, for up to 2 months at time. Is it as easy as they say to call and bump it up for a couple of months, and then back down when done? Any pitfalls or costs associated with it?
How about roaming data usage? I was told at the store that as long as 50% or less of the data usage is roaming, they don't care. True? Horror stories?
Yes Hotspot usage is included in the plans for everyone except people like myself who still have unlimited data plan. You can also bump up your data if you expect to go over your limit and also bump it back down whenever needed without any problem or extra charges. Your roaming question im not sure about.
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Savagerun said:
Yes Hotspot usage is included in the plans for everyone except people like myself who still have unlimited data plan. You can also bump up your data if you expect to go over your limit and also bump it back down whenever needed without any problem or extra charges. Your roaming question im not sure about.
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That's technically incorrect. It's not free on the $60 2gb unlimited talk and text plan, it's $15 each device(not a more everything plan). In a more everything plan it'll be included.
OP say you get 4gb of data.
1. On more everything it would be $70 for data and $40 for each smart phone so $150 total. The data is one allotment.
2. You do it on the individual plans on a family account, it can be done, but it would be $60 for 2gb per line and unlimited talk and text, so $120 for two with 4gb total. Add $15 per phone for hotspot, if it's on both then the plan cost is equal.
3. Edge, a bit more complicated but if you 4gb just get 10gb as the cost is the same because of the access fee discount per line.
joshua.justice said:
That's technically incorrect. It's not free on the $60 2gb unlimited talk and text plan, it's $15 each device(not a more everything plan). In a more everything plan it'll be included.
OP say you get 4gb of data.
1. On more everything it would be $70 for data and $40 for each smart phone so $150 total. The data is one allotment.
2. You do it on the individual plans on a family account, it can be done, but it would be $60 for 2gb per line and unlimited talk and text, so $120 for two with 4gb total. Add $15 per phone for hotspot, if it's on both then the plan cost is equal.
3. Edge, a bit more complicated but if you 4gb just get 10gb as the cost is the same because of the access fee discount per line.
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Thanks for the break down. I think I get it.
Another question about the hotspot. When hooked to the Hotspot, can the phone still make/receive calls? Assuming S5 and Note 3.
jejb said:
Thanks for the break down. I think I get it.
Another question about the hotspot. When hooked to the Hotspot, can the phone still make/receive calls? Assuming S5 and Note 3.
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You're welcome, unfortunately I understand it all too well as I work at Best Buy and I'm fairly certain it wouldn't as voice is still a separate network frequency and CDMA can't use voice and data simultaneously. When they do VoLTE (voice over lte) it will work. They're suppose to be rolling out anytime.
joshua.justice said:
You're welcome, unfortunately I understand it all too well as I work at Best Buy and I'm fairly certain it wouldn't as voice is still a separate network frequency and CDMA can't use voice and data simultaneously. When they do VoLTE (voice over lte) it will work. They're suppose to be rolling out anytime.
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Mostly right.
If you're in a 4G area, you can make/receive a call and still use 4G data at the same time.
quantumalpha said:
Mostly right.
If you're in a 4G area, you can make/receive a call and still use 4G data at the same time.
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Ding ding a ding ding ...
Data drops on phone call if on 3g .... LTE and voice work simultaneously no problem I do it all the time.