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The Atrix to me is one of the first steps of a mobile computing topic my buddies and I have been debating for about 3 years now. That the phone will become the center of basic personal computing and, if so, how. The laptop and desktop "docks" for the Atrix are early steps in the direction of those arguing the phone will become the central device with simple docks.
This wouldn't replace a hard core gamer's monster system or a CAD workstation. However most people I know use their computer for just 5 things:
1) Internet (browsing and email).
2) Documents (word processing, spreadsheet, and simple photo editing).
3) Multi-media (listening to music and watching videos).
4) Hard copy (print and scan).
5) Simple games (solitaire, sudoku, etc).​Really, that is it!
I lean toward the dock being more powerful and providing the extra horsepower needed for what we know think of as "desktop level performance and graphics" when docked. But really for the 5 tasks listed above I think Atrix class hardware might be able to run those applications already (giving points to those who side with the simple dock solution, sigh).
What do you think?
I agree I long dreamed of such a situation. small dock with extra storage and processing power. mobile phone as a sort of key. pop it in, full desktop OS. take it out. full mobile phone.
kinda exactly like the atrix. but more refined.
vzontini said:
The laptop and desktop "docks" for the Atrix are early steps in the direction of those arguing the phone will become the central device with simple docks.
What do you think?
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I'd have to agree. Even if I don't get the Atrix I am so happy that Motorola came out with the webtop application for the docks. This will push the smartphone industry upward and other manufacturers will have to follow suit with the smartphone becoming the central and only communication device for almost everything.
The laptop dock looks sexy as hell. I loved the macbook air's design but couldn't get myself to buy an overpriced mac with an extra "apple tax" attached to it. The Atrix laptop dock is even thinner and so beautiful its crazy. I'm really hoping that it's priced low ($150 - 200) in order to get people to want to buy the Atrix.
The only thing that I'm not sure of yet is the HDMI mirroring. I know they have a regular dock for the TV but I'm not sure if the phone has actual mirroring. If its not then the emulator gaming gets screwed up and I'll have to pass on this phone
Either way I can't wait to have a phone as my only device for everything. Pure heaven is coming
The Atrix looks cool, dual processor, etc.. But "docks" are a thing of the past, in my opinion. I just want the phone to seamlessly integrate with the cloud. As a matter of fact, I'd just assume when you bought a phone, the only cable you got was an AC adapter, no USB, nothing.
Motorolla locked bootloader coupled with AT&T bloat just makes this phone more of the same.
I've been very disappointed with recent cell phone offerings and that the unlocked/unsubsidized super phone isn't really taking off, and partly thats because we are still supporting the Atrix/G2/etc of the world that are locked down. Again, all nice hardware but "fastboot oem unlock" and unsubsidized is the way to go. Thats why I'm hoping a AT&T Nexus S is released even though I don't care for Samsung and the phone isnt much of an upgrade, I plan on voting with my dollars and not buying something a carrier has mangled..
Yes.
The question is will it be smartphones or tablets?
Many will still opt for the power and versatility of a full option desktop. Simply too far ahead in the power curve and it takes too many gens to shrink that power for portable use. (For now anyways)
Eventually BT/Dlna or perhaps a new wireless method will be available that simply placing your device on a *home* base will initiate the usage as opposed to physical wires. But again we're not just there yet.
Atrix is a huge step towards this and agree with the OP.
Main issue of course will be OS compatibility getting a TV / input methods / monitor /mass storage/ and ideally home controls to communicate seamlessly is proving impossible as every hardware maker wants to use proprietary methods.
Android maintaining momentum is key as Apples approach will always be restricting and MS will never get there heads out of there butts long enough to make something significant happen.
I seriously hope Atrix doesn't price users out of its features. I likely wont get one but I truly want to see it succeed just for this purpose.
I mentioned this in the EVO forum but this is something that excites me. The Atrix is a first step but its still too rough for me to enjoy. What I really want is a integrated experience. I.e. plug in to a TV and Google TV kicks in, plug it into a monitor and a Chrome-esque OS or Android like desktop experience kicks in, or if you plug it into a touch screen the tablet version of Android kicks in. Right now you'll get a probably horrible/crude Linux build to start up. Maybe some enterprising devs will get a better more satisfying distro on the Atrix but I'd still want that integrated experience over that.
This might stir up some folks here but I'd bet good money that Apple (iOS/Apple TV/the iOS-fication of OSX), Microsoft (WP7/Media Center/ARM based Windows 8), or even HP/Palm will do it first. Personally I'd probably opt for a Windows or Apple solution just because of the better professional apps (Adobe CS, etc.) that'll probably be available early on.
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I'm pretty excited about the Atrix personally, but there's one thing that keeps spinning around in my head. I love the little laptop dock, extremely cool. And it uses the phone for everything and it's connection obviously. Then I got to thinking, will AT&T consider this tethering? Quite obviously to us, this isn't tethering at all. BUT!!! I wouldn't put it past AT&T at all to pull this kind of stunt. That would be the one buzzkill for me for this phone. Leave it to them to change the language and say that when you dock, it will consume more bandwidth and therefor be tethering.
AbsoluteDesignz said:
I agree I long dreamed of such a situation. small dock with extra storage and processing power. mobile phone as a sort of key. pop it in, full desktop OS. take it out. full mobile phone.
kinda exactly like the atrix. but more refined.
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I had a dream and vision once; around 10yrs ago; moto atrix is the closest so far... waiting for the release and first person experience...
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I've been very disappointed with recent cell phone offerings and that the unlocked/unsubsidized super phone isn't really taking off, and partly thats because we are still supporting the Atrix/G2/etc of the world that are locked down. Again, all nice hardware but "fastboot oem unlock" and unsubsidized is the way to go.
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Agree 100% with that. Now what if the next Nexus phone is an Atrix type device from Motorola? Now *that* would be a worthy replacement for my N1.
Someone has to take the first steps and with my limited knowledge of the mobile market this appears to be the first step. I agree it lacks refinement but that what technology comes out of the shoot already polished. It takes multiple iterations of real world testing to work out the kinks. People end up doing things the original designers never dreamed of.
I also hope that the Atrix is just the beginning and the concept catches on. My hacker side doesn't want a locked down device. Again my thought is this is just the first step in an evolution of the phone. I think it will be the phone versus the tablet because so many people want something pocketable. IMO the tablet won't be the center because it is just too big.
Only time will tell. Anyway it is pretty exciting.
Actually now that I think about I think I would much rather have a bigger 4.3' screen android phone that I could pair with my foldable bluetooth keyboard as well as HDMI mirroring capabilities to play emulators with a bluetooth wiimote.
Not that the laptop dock isn't sexy as hell, but I'd rather just be able to pair an HID bluetooth keyboard with my bigger screen phone to use as my all in one device...
Now if the Atrix can pair with a HID bluetooth keyboard, has wiimote support, and HDMI mirroring then sweet! but if it's missing any of these 3 things then perhaps the Droid Bionic or LG Optimus 2x???
Is it bad that this phone sexually arouses me? I just hope that this is functional on rogers frequencies because I know other bell phones have before... I don't even expect rogers supposed lte network to work with it as long as the 3g works I'm gravy...
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crachel said:
... "docks" are a thing of the past, in my opinion. I just want the phone to seamlessly integrate with the cloud. As a matter of fact, I'd just assume when you bought a phone, the only cable you got was an AC adapter, no USB, nothing.
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I couldn't disagree more! "Integrated with the cloud" is a nice-to-have, but what I'd really want is for my phone to integrate with my own way of working. If that means having access to gobs of local storage in addition to (or even instead of) Google's online services, that should be my choice. An optional dock is a perfect companion for me, especially if I would be given a choice of operating system the phone would run when connected to one. Imagine if the next generation super phone ran a flavor of Linux when connected to a dock. We can already run Ubuntu on our Nexus Ones, so this isn't much of a stretch at all. The next wave of dual-core phones should have no trouble at all running a full desktop OS, with all bells and whistles.
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Motorolla locked bootloader coupled with AT&T bloat just makes this phone more of the same.
I've been very disappointed with recent cell phone offerings and that the unlocked/unsubsidized super phone isn't really taking off, and partly thats because we are still supporting the Atrix/G2/etc of the world that are locked down. Again, all nice hardware but "fastboot oem unlock" and unsubsidized is the way to go. Thats why I'm hoping a AT&T Nexus S is released even though I don't care for Samsung and the phone isnt much of an upgrade, I plan on voting with my dollars and not buying something a carrier has mangled..
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This I can totally agree with. I paid full price for both my HTC Dream and Nexus One (unlocked and off-contract) and don't regret it for a second. If Nexus S wasn't so "last year" in terms of specs, I'd be all over it. I am currently waiting for a true "next gen" phone like Moto's Atrix to be released as a reference developer phone before I give up my N1.
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This wouldn't replace a hard core gamer's monster system or a CAD workstation.
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Give it a few more quarters and Moore's Law will take care of that. Already Tegra 2 equipped phones can run better games than my 2-year-old desktop machine that was considered top of the line when I put it together.
My provider is using the AWS band. As soon as one of these is available in this band, I'll probably get one.
This is the exact thing I need: 1 device does (nearly) all!
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
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http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/android-30-platform-preview-and-updated.html
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As of now this is all I would be interested in from 3.0 . Hope cyanogen can pull this into CM7
New types of connectivity: New APIs for Bluetooth A2DP and HSP let applications offer audio streaming and headset control. Support for Bluetooth insecure socket connection lets applications connect to simple devices that may not have a user interface.
Yep seems to be a preview SDK for 3.0 with a final SDK in coming weeks. Simply prep for Honeycomb tablets.
"A built-in GL renderer lets developers request hardware-acceleration of common 2D rendering operations in their apps, across the entire app or only in specific activities or views."
So it seems that 2.3 isn't hardware accelerated...now I want 3.0 on my desire . But here's another quote:
"Android 3.0 (Honeycomb) is a new version of the Android platform that is designed from the ground up for devices with larger screen sizes, particularly tablets."
So Honycomb isn't for phones? I really hope Google can clear things up a bit because I remember Andy rubben saying the Honycomb can adapt to phones & tablets.
Any thoughts or theories?
Weren't there enough thoughts and theories about it?
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Weren't there enough thoughts and theories about it?
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Yes there was a lot of theories, but now we have something official to discuss rather than hearsay. Anyway, don't discuss if you don't feel like it.
How about the 2.4? really don't know what Goolge is thinking about. Just want a stable version and improve it by other works. Not so much version and make people confuse. It seems that N1 may not flash it~~
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Yes there was a lot of theories, but now we have something official to discuss rather than hearsay. Anyway, don't discuss if you don't feel like it.
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Looking at the new preview SDK, it only big screens by default. And reading through the platform highlights really only mentions tablets. However, a couple Android devs have already stated its for all platforms. Seems to me that they don't want to reveal that its for phones yet, so that they can advertise that it is made for tablets.
The main criticism the iPad got was being a giant iPhone. I think they want to avoid that by having people believe that it isn't the same Android that is on phones.
I guess when they release the full SDK we'll know for sure.
Interesting...the beat goes on!
Honeycomb is also for phones, but we all knew that right?
From the documentation:
Publishing your app for tablet-type devices only
Additionally, you should decide whether your application is for only tablet devices (specifically, xlarge devices) or for devices of all sizes that may run Android 3.0.
If your application is only for tablets (xlarge screens; not for mobile devices/phones), then you should include the <supports-screens> element in your manifest with all sizes except for xlarge declared false.
With this declaration, you indicate that your application does not support any screen size except extra large. External services such as Android Market may use this to filter your application from devices that do not have an extra large screen.
Otherwise, if you want your application to be available to both small devices (phones) and large devices (tablets), do not include the <supports-screens> element.
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Well, all clear then! The future of Android looks neat!
Nice find
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spamlucal said:
Honeycomb is also for phones, but we all knew that right?
From the documentation:
Well, all clear then! The future of Android looks neat!
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Hmmmm...good find! Android is getting really interesting visually, which is IMO a milestone it needed to reach a while ago
Anyway, can't wait for an alpha sdk image on my phone to play with if that's possible currently
Forget Ginga and Honeycomb. Havent you all hear of whats ahead of honeycomb? Its called " Chicken Soup". Yup, ik... Weird name. But its only for dual core over 2ghz. So phones arent ready. Its suppose to be completely holographic 3d without glasses. Pretty neat. And requires horsepower of xbox 360 or more. Anything less and its a no go. Its suppose to be the next gen OS and quantum leap from even honeycomb. Remember the name "chicken soup". Its comming next year by christman. Cant wait!
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SINNN said:
Forget Ginga and Honeycomb. Havent you all hear of whats ahead of honeycomb? Its called " Chicken Soup". Yup, ik... Weird name. But its only for dual core over 2ghz. So phones arent ready. Its suppose to be completely holographic 3d without glasses. Pretty neat. And requires horsepower of xbox 360 or more. Anything less and its a no go. Its suppose to be the next gen OS and quantum leap from even honeycomb. Remember the name "chicken soup". Its comming next year by christman. Cant wait!
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This was a horrible and incredibly illogical troll/joke attempt
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Honeycomb is also for phones, but we all knew that right?
From the documentation:
Well, all clear then! The future of Android looks neat!
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It actually does not mean much.
Android application could always define different layouts for different resolutions, orientations, themes or screen sizes. So, it is just one additional form factor, one of many. And the way to say to the market which layouts are supported and which are not.
It also does not mean, that "honeycomb for phones" would be the same as honeycomb for tablets "just smaller".
They only said, that phone version will move in similar direction. Which can mean pretty much anything.
In fact I expect, that honeycomb for phones will be seriously different, since a lot of new honeycomb for tablets features on smaller screens do not make any sense.
My theory:
Honeycomb is currently, Tablets only.
We are going to see a division in Android for Phones and Android for Tablets.
Tablets will be at 3.0 starting off.
Phones are currently at 2.3, and will continue 2.4 being Gingerbread as well with updates that should have happened with 2.3. (Like 2.0 and 2.1 being Eclair)
Once phones have the ability to run such a resource hungry operating system(3.0) the Phone and Tablet versions of Android will merge into one.
Wisefire said:
My theory:
Honeycomb is currently, Tablets only.
We are going to see a division in Android for Phones and Android for Tablets.
Tablets will be at 3.0 starting off.
Phones are currently at 2.3, and will continue 2.4 being Gingerbread as well with updates that should have happened with 2.3. (Like 2.0 and 2.1 being Eclair)
Once phones have the ability to run such a resource hungry operating system(3.0) the Phone and Tablet versions of Android will merge into one.
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But the hardware of the new tablets is the same Tegra 2 of the new phones, so I think the problem is the adaptability of the OS to smaller screens in a way it is usable for our fingers.
Anyone here used the leaked "honeycomb music player"? It has all the new characteristics we saw on the xoom tablet but worked very nice on my Nexus One with 2.2.1.
I think when honeycomb's source code come out we will get working builds.
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I heard Ice cream is going to be only for refrigerators. You know cause of the thermostat API that very few phones support.
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But the hardware of the new tablets is the same Tegra 2 of the new phones, so I think the problem is the adaptability of the OS to smaller screens in a way it is usable for our fingers.
Anyone here used the leaked "honeycomb music player"? It has all the new characteristics we saw on the xoom tablet but worked very nice on my Nexus One with 2.2.1.
I think when honeycomb's source code come out we will get working builds.
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I believe you are absolutely right. I tried making an AVD for Honeycomb with the screen resolution of my Nexus One. The launcher force closed continuously but you could see that the standard pull down notification bar was there. So I take that to mean that Honeycomb is for all devices and just changes its layout based on screen size.
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It actually does not mean much.
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A little bit of context: The text I copy-pasted is in a section called "Upgrade or Develop a New App for Tablets and Similar Devices"
In it, is says:
If you want to develop something truly for tablet-type devices running Android 3.0, then you need to use new APIs available in Android 3.0. This section introduces some of the new features that you should use.
The first thing to do when you create a project with the Android 3.0 preview is set the <uses-sdk> element to use "Honeycomb" for the android:minSdkVersion.
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What does this mean? it means this app won't work on anything other lower than honeycomb. So, the "choose your screen size" text I pasted yesterday applies to honeycomb-only apps.
The documentation in the SDK is a nice read actually
Picture me in the braveheart costume for this: the nookcolor has an early port of honeycomb working already. They skipped right over froyo and gingerbread, how dare they! The nook isn't even a true android tablet, I say we fight, show them what a real 3.0 tablet looks like! Who's with me?
Seriously though, any gen 8 devs have an idea here? I'm aware the full SDK isnt even out but can we do it? I'm not a programmer but i pledge my time and brain to the cause. I'd even throw $20 to the dev.
I can draw a boot screen for it in MS Paint.
I bought my 101 knowing that Froyo would be acceptable, but hoping that there would be community support to bring Gingerbread along too.
Not going to happen on the 70 until source is out. The emulator image won't run at the 70's resolution. The launcher just crashes. Could happen on the 101 though. I only have the 70 so not much i can do to help with that device.
LOL. I was coming here to post the exact same question.
I hope that Archos understands that They need to be proactive with respect to pushing new versions of Android. I have a Moto Cliq, and Motorola hasn't even tried to push Froyo out yet. It is so annoying to be a step behind everyone else. I hope Archos isn't going to take the same approach.
If you look closely you will see that the honeycomb in there is running on a 2.6.29 kernel.
So there schould be no real problem.
When the full SDK Source code is released can we expect a ROM? I really hope so, although I'm fairly confident Archos will follow through and give us an official release.
I blame availability (Nook is about everywhere). Hopefully in the upcoming days I will be donating my Archos to a group of people who do AOSP work.
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I blame availability (Nook is about everywhere). Hopefully in the upcoming days I will be donating my Archos to a group of people who do AOSP work.
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Won't we need a custom bootloader before we can load a new ROM? Isn't is b/c Archos has signed and encrypted the actual "ROM" layer of Android that we can't flash our own ROMs?
From my understanding, and someone please correct me if I am wrong since I'm just learning, Archos has file system protections on Application Framework, the Andriod Runtime, and the Libraries but has unlocked the Kernel layer in the SDE for us (http://developer.android.com/guide/basics/what-is-android.html) . Essentially we can adjust how the hardware interacts with their mostly vanilla versions of Eclair and Froyo but can't change what is a majority of what people call the "ROM". It seems that $auron and a few others are gifted with finding ways to change the way the ROM functions by programming at the Kernel level.
Of course, this is what I've pieced together from tons of different sources so I'm open to someone correcting me...
With SDE we can boot just about anything as long as it has the drivers to play nice with the hardware in the Archos. A version of Android built for tablets would be relatively easy compared to some of the schemes people have been trying.
What you say is true for most devices, but giving us the SDE side of things was a real nice gift by Archos. Basically they handed us the keys and told us if we broke it we bought it, which is what a lot of people have been asking the manufacturers of other devices to do for a long time.
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What you say is true for most devices, but giving us the SDE side of things was a real nice gift by Archos. Basically they handed us the keys and told us if we broke it we bought it, which is what a lot of people have been asking the manufacturers of other devices to do for a long time.
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That's correct
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That's correct
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and it will even keep me buying archos products. which is really what they want.
maybe they will get into the phone business....
L0$t$0ul said:
Not going to happen on the 70 until source is out. The emulator image won't run at the 70's resolution. The launcher just crashes. Could happen on the 101 though. I only have the 70 so not much i can do to help with that device.
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They just made it run on a Dell Streak, and it's 800x480 like archos 70 ... so ...
p0rk burn said:
Basically they handed us the keys and told us if we broke it we bought it, which is what a lot of people have been asking the manufacturers of other devices to do for a long time.
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Um...I'm pretty sure I bought it already. It cost 275.
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They just made it run on a Dell Streak, and it's 800x480 like archos 70 ... so ...
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Streaks source is open ,isn't it?
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Moved to general as not android development
If you look at the video that was just posted for the streak it "looks" like they got it working by somehow telling the launcher to launch at a different resolution from the screen so a lot of stuff is off screen on the launcher.
From what I could see from tinkering with the 70 and the sdk the launcher itself will crash if you try to start it up at 800x480. I'm not sure if that can be fixed without source but I'm not an expert in Launchers. People have managed to get a rom to work on a phone by replacing the launcher but that's not the gingerbread experience we would want on our tablets so what's the point in that?
I'm sure once the source is available for the launcher it'll be easy to get a rom on here.
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If you look at the video that was just posted for the streak it "looks" like they got it working by somehow telling the launcher to launch at a different resolution from the screen so a lot of stuff is off screen on the launcher.
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Just had an idea, using this as a basis of the idea...
Could we (and when I say we, I mean a dev who can actually do this kinda stuff) do a similar thing, but instead of changing the resolution, change the LCD density?
I am not sure if this would work at all, but the theory is this:
If LCD density is changed, you have the appearance of a higher resolution, this generally messes with standard launchers in bad ways. However, if the standard launcher is messed up out of the screen (i.e. as if parts are on non-existing pixels off screen) could this mixture of events work in our favour?
I am not a dev, so this is probably a worthless idea, but thought I'd get it out there just in case its not as worthless as I expect it to be.
http://www.slashgear.com/android-5-0-jelly-bean-gains-motorola-desktop-mode-20214396/
Better than cornerstone. Multi windowed ui.
From what I see, Webtop is about sending your phone's display to a computer. I fail to see the relation with multi-window (or the claim that this would be part of Jellybean).
Yeah not sure what this has to do with anything relevant to the Xoom. Webtop is an app (or "mode") that exists on Motorola phones which support the Lapdock. It doesn't have anything to do with Android 5.0 or the Xoom...
Didn't Moto already try this sort of connection with the Atrix 4G?
Were you the guy that posted this on r/android?
webtop any similar to bumptop? www.bumptop.com
The Webtop thing could work if done right. For example, combine Motorola's current Webtop software with ASUS' keyboard dock hardware and it could work. I like this idea and would love to see this in the future.
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The Webtop thing could work if done right. For example, combine Motorola's current Webtop software with ASUS' keyboard dock hardware and it could work. I like this idea and would love to see this in the future.
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I personally feel like there aren't many people who would prefer to get an accessory like a keyboard dock for a device that they might replace in a year anyway (the types of techies who would really be most interested in something like that). Maybe if they could make it universal across android devices.
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
So how long till we see this on roms?
This is awesome. I use Ubuntu as my OS on my home PC.
Propably not anytime soon. Devs at the Atrix forums still haven't gotten webtop ported to CM and our bootloaders have been unlocked for many months now. Even with the webtop source released they still haven't ported it. FYI, webtop is Motorola's crappy implementation of this.
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going forward this is going to be pretty sweet to see this side-by-side on an android phone <-> docked PC style
Not exactly sure it has a place on a xoom though - I guess when you 'dock' the xoom up to the TV it might be nice - but I like my xoom as a xoom - although the concept for getting it in a phone to dock up with laptop is far more feasible for me... but then this could be because i'm a fairly casual user of the xoom and only use it at home in place of a laptop...?
anyway its an awesome idea so I hope it works well!
i agree 100% Good idea but not so practical
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Propably not anytime soon. Devs at the Atrix forums still haven't gotten webtop ported to CM and our bootloaders have been unlocked for many months now. Even with the webtop source released they still haven't ported it. FYI, webtop is Motorola's crappy implementation of this.
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Personally I think that webtop didn't have enough want for it, I personally didn't need it. Airdroid did more than enough for me. But with this it's an entire operating system that everyone knows well and has MANY uses including being able to use android apps inside of it. I know I would LOVE to see it on my phone and perhaps the tablet.
I'd love to see this on my xoom.
I, too, would love to have something like this on my Xoom. A tablet would be a more practical platform for Ubunto, IMO, especially on the go when/if the need arises to use Ubuntu away from the dock. This could be implemented as a virtual machine running inside of Android (or vice versa) or as a dual boot solution. Either way, I'm all for it.
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Personally I think that webtop didn't have enough want for it, I personally didn't need it. Airdroid did more than enough for me. But with this it's an entire operating system that everyone knows well and has MANY uses including being able to use android apps inside of it. I know I would LOVE to see it on my phone and perhaps the tablet.
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I agree with the lack of need, however, from what I understand (never actually used webtop) it is a full Ubuntu OS, just highly modified by Motorola, and can be modified (not easily) by rooted and/or unlocked users. Also, some standard applications like open office and gimp have been successfully installed I believe. But with only a 1GHz dual core CPU and 1GB of RAM shared b/t Android and webtop, I could imagine that it would be very difficult to get the feel of a full laptop/desktop out of an android phone or tablet.
IMO, the best implementation of Ubuntu for Android would have two parts.
Tablets: Dual-boot to a full OS that either has minor Android capabilities or none at all (use apps in a way similar to WINE perhaps) but also include the option to switch to Ubuntu (with or without a dock) while Android is running, but disable certain memory/CPU hogging features of the full OS.
Phones: Strip down Ubuntu to its bare minimums and create a Repo specifically for UfA so that users can install basic productivity applications. A mobile view, similar to how webtop is implemented, would allow you to manipulate the phone in another window and run all of your available Android applications along with UfA. Also, I would like to see the feature that would allow phones to switch to the tablet UI automatically when they detect a dock or HDMI cable, instead of having to manually switch it over similar to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483221