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This might be a rant, so I apologist up front but..........
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
What I was hoping is that it could see the operating system and effectively act as a monitor and therefore a portable computer.
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Another trick dell have missed
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Maybe someone can write an app like they did for the DroidX that outputs everything you see on the screen.
Fazziebear said:
When the dock costs 50 quid why does it only allow the video and audio to be outputted?
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This is what majority of owners want - to watch a movie on TV and play some music.
The ability to have desktop on TV is useless for them - you cannot touch TV screen to press a button anyway...
But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
I also have 3 devices for watching films on my tv (cable, ps3 and dvd player) why do I need another one. But if I could replace them with something better I would.
The present function is not better but in fact worse as I have remotes for my other players
Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
Short sighted developers and a lack of understanding of what is possible is the only thing blocking it.
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But you can touch the dell, therefore touch screen monitor not required.
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But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
The desktop on TV is pointless...
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Hdmi out for the full phone means you can browse the internet, check emails via the tv, this becomes a media center that could rival apples iTv. As you could watch hulu, most british tv, love film streams, amazon etc straight from the device. If it was done via wireless or then it would be a remote also, the perfect device.
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You don't have to convince me that it is nice use case.
I am only saying that from Dell point of view it is so rare, that it's not worth working on it. ROI is to low.
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
it would be preferable if the screen stayed "on" the telly (or monitor?) for everything though - saves going back and forth between the two screens. Can understand why it's not a priority for Dell though, but I think they'd sell more docks if it DID do full output....i'd probably buy one then!
I presume it's not possible for someone to develop something?..............
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But then you're looking at Streak screen, not the TV, right?
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Not really, The streak becomes the remote for the screen. Keyboard and track pad.
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smokku said:
You may support my effort for porting Maemo/MeeGo to Streak, though.
Maemo/MeeGo offers everything you mentioned and more.
Ie. I already have a working setup with bluetooth keyboard and mouse connected to my Nokia N900, which is connected to TV for display.
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Defo support bluetooth keyboard, not too bothered for a mouse, defo support an output to monitor.
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I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
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I would definitely buy a full HDMI app if one existed like one for the Streak.
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+1 In a New York minute.
Full HDMI support and BT Keyboard and Mouse! This combo will be the best! Just add a 42" flat tv and you've got a good everyday PC for multimedia, internet, email an so much more!
What do you use it for, has it replaced your netbook, do you use it With a dock or with the hdmi hack?
I use everyday, with lapdock and dock hd!
No I don't. I need my laptop, luckily it has clearwire LTE.
The hacked webtop is very cool, but not anything I need. I wish it could run google docs but it's too slow.
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pointless to me its way too slow and its missing way too many features to be used as a laptop
I've used it once or twice with the webtop hack and an HDMI monitor. But it hasnt replaced my laptop, nor do I see it doing so any time soon. Its a great idea but even with the full ubuntu feels rather crippled.
I use webtop dock occassionaly via HD multimedia dock. But mostly I use the wifi hotspot to give me internet access on my netbook.
i use it sometimes when i want to leave it on a hulu tv show, or youtube, or something...
I use webtop hack for hulu and streamings sites all the time. But I have $ 25 3mb/s internet service so I could "cut the cable" on cable tv and save money. I want full linux on webtop but waiting for an easier script hack hopefully.
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i use mines about every day. especially since the webtop hack came out.
I show people at work where the future is going. I don't actually use the webtop cos' I have a nice laptop!
I do however firmly believe that inside 5 years we will not be carting laptops around for work when travelling. A lot of hotel rooms have hi-def televisions already, and I think that inside 5 years we will be hauling a cellphone on trips along with a roll up bluetooth keyboard and wireless mini bluetooth mouse, using the televisions in hotel rooms as monitors while we work on Powerpoint, Excel, Word, and who knows what else. ****, there is even an AutoCAD application now.
So, in essence, I use webtop to show off and say "your iPhone can't do this"!
I've been playing with it using the hack to basically get full screen hdmi mirroring, but the refresh/redraw rate isn't good enough to pull it off.
I bought a$ 40 bluetooth keyboard and plug in my phone to my 52inch screen. Its great fun. Not so easy to navigate.
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What do you use it for, has it replaced your netbook, do you use it With a dock or with the hdmi hack?
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Never. I have a laptop and find it better than using my phone.
Hi there, i have some question wanna ask you
I m just confusing to buy a new tablet. Nothing to talk about the iPad2, all good, but I hate to sync with Itune, and cant jail break ritenow.
So i m looking at some Android Tablet, and A500 is very good in my request such as: full USB port, HDMI....
But I read some review, and a lot of people told me A500 have a problem with Wifi connection, is it real? it can not connect to wifi if the router is far as 15ft Please give me the answer T_T
Another stuff is app. I used to read the Comic and Manga in my Android phone using Manga Watcher, is it have a version for Android 3.0??? Any1 testing it?
Are there some apps from 2.2-2.3 can use in 3.0 with full screen display?
If everything is good, i will buy A500, cause i love the usb port ^^ can plug the usb drive to it and transfer data fast ^^
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Please don't use that word in these forums.
Comic Reader Mobi works find on the A500 in full screen.
Only devices I've seen bad wifi connections on is the apple products
Baldyl0cks said:
Please don't use that word in these forums.
Comic Reader Mobi works find on the A500 in full screen.
Only devices I've seen bad wifi connections on is the apple products
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So the a500 dont have any wifi problem? Cause i saw a lot of review in bestbuy about this problem
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I never even considered a tablet before Iconia. If it ain't got usb it's nothing more than a useless toy for me.
As for iPad...
I use perfect viewer to read manga.
My wifi is good, I haven't had any problems but lets hear from others regarding wifi.
as far as my wifi experience, not as good as my Archos tablet, but better than my tablet/cellphones (HTC tytn ii, HTC raphael, LG expo)
Some reviews are legit, but others are just passing what they heard as fact/fanboys for other tabs, which all it does is make the a500 look bad for no reason
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Wifi is good for me. Get the iconia insted of the "fantastical and magical new device".
I had to return my tablet because of the wifi. The problem wasn't poor reception on mine. It was because the tablet would not finish any large wifi transfers, and even some small ones like market apps gave it trouble.
I even waited for the update to be realeased and installed before returning the tab. Unfortunately that didn't help at all.
None of those issues are present with the unit I got as an exchange. And now I am happy as I can be with my a500.
Also I have had pretty good luck with apps. Only a few that I have tried don't work at all. Some will work but not in full screen. But most apps are just fine.
I've never owned an Apple anything so I can't speak to the differences. I do know that the a500 does most everything that I would want a tablet to do. GPS is a little wonky but there is a fix on the forums for that.
Good luck with whichever pad that you choose.
good wifi here
My netgear g/n router is located down in the middle of our basement where we have our wireless printer station set up.we have a very large lot that Liu home sits on.I can get two bars on wifi anywhere on my property.even way out back prob 300 or so feet.I have noticed. That even my neighbor that has a teenager thats friends with my son has same wifi router about 1/2 block away I see there network as well as others. Always two bars. So to me the wifi isssue is the notification people see is misleading. When I leave my home going down street it never looses the two bars just disconnects.
is this just me or has anyone else noticed this.I know I should try a 3rd party app to test but it works OK to me so not care much about the notification.
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Erica renee
I've had not a single problem with my wifi, works great everywhere I go.
My galaxy also has a supposed wifi and GPS problem. I don't need to say how my friends can't use that one bar at all in places where I get none.
Only time I've had problems with my A500's WiFi was in a spot where even my Droid doesn't connect all the time. I've been able to connect at work to a hotspot 1/2 the building away (same floor).
so far, the wifi is good for most of people in xda so the last thing i want to ask is about watching HD movie, both of 720p and 1080p. My friend show me the clip in youtube that fully review about the A500, and it showed A500 have a problem to play HD movie.
Only can play HD movie with Rock Player but have some delay, others app such as Mobo can not play. Is there something wrong with Tegra2 in HD movie? Because my friend using Xoom have same problem?
Ah, sorry, and 1 more thing Can we use A500 like USB drive when connect with PC? Cause I really hate to sync using some software, just want drag and paste, thats all
I have no idea about in-browser HD. Could be android, could be flash, could be acer.
AFAIK tegra 2 was said to be HD capable so 3.1 might fix this.
The youtube app should display HD properly and most formats should just work.
For jerky formats like .mkv some players *might* do.
wifi is good in my iconia, but yeah, my desire has much better wifi receiver ...
Btw, JavaScript performance on tablets: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108741
Guess who scores the longest time (worst)!
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so far, the wifi is good for most of people in xda so the last thing i want to ask is about watching HD movie, both of 720p and 1080p. My friend show me the clip in youtube that fully review about the A500, and it showed A500 have a problem to play HD movie.
Only can play HD movie with Rock Player but have some delay, others app such as Mobo can not play. Is there something wrong with Tegra2 in HD movie? Because my friend using Xoom have same problem?
Ah, sorry, and 1 more thing Can we use A500 like USB drive when connect with PC? Cause I really hate to sync using some software, just want drag and paste, thats all
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Yes the Acer is recognized as an external drive when you connect it to the computer. No software needed, just drag & drop.
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Yes the Acer is recognized as an external drive when you connect it to the computer. No software needed, just drag & drop.
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sound good thank you for your help. Hopefully 3.1 can fix the problem with HDmovie
No problems at all with mine.
GPS connects within seconds and I've never had a WiFi connection that worked quicker!!
I can download around 2Mb/s even from using my phone as a portable WiFi hotspot.
Absolutely love the A500, been waiting for a decent Android pad for awhile and it's fianlly here.
pink
Bohooo
The only two major issues with my iconia. Tap priority first
1. The stupid placement of notifications [should be lockable or on top]
2. The tablet should be a cute soft pink color. [Giggles or a nice skin made]
3. I am blonde so there should must be [number one ] recovery available
Recovery recovery recovery recovery recovery
I think this gets the point across
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Erica Renee
I've had the transformer for 3 months.
It does some things great but it is neither a tool or a laptop replacement. The tablet effect may be real at the moment but it will pass.
I love this tablet for movies and email and calendar on the road. And for battery life.
That's where my love ends
It is slow. The browser is deadly slow and buggy as ****. How does a Google product have such a **** browser?
It is not useful as a tool.
Letters, documents spreadsheets... can be done but not effectively.
It is a fun toy and nice to have on the road. But I still need me macbook for anything work related. So now I just have one more thing in my travel bag. Not the direction I want to go.
And worthy of note, of all my computers and devices, I like my full desktop with dual monitors and 6core Intel CPU best. The desktop isn't dead yet either.
Ty.
I use it as a terminal into my computer. So when I go to a meeting or travel I can access my computer with remote desktop.
Do you have the docking? And did you try other browsers?
Because with docking and with opera mobile i do not reckognize any of your points.
I never buy my TF in order to replace my Ubuntu laptop or my desktop computer.
I have it for the battery life, the GPS, the portability, to do emails, downloads, games and surfing lazy in my salon listening TV at same time, copying my camera movies or pictures in holidays, etc ...
I'm doing that before with a net book, but now I have also a Tablet and this is so Geek
The TF is somewhere between my HTC Desire and my Laptop !
I like also to see Honeycomb and the market growing with butty full applications.
This is my new precious and I enjoy it so much
Regards.
PS: Try Dolphin Browser HD, is not to bad and faster.
I wouldn't say it's not useful...just not exactly a laptop replacement.
I do use it for documents, emails, games, and such...the same thing I use my laptop for...the only difference is that the TF allows me to do all that at the coffee shop with my feet up on the hearth, eating a scone...
It is what it is...
I would say that you picked the Transformer up for all the wrong reasons. You have a Macbook yet you're looking for something portable for work. That doesnt' really make sense to me. You're probably not the best use case for this device.
This thing is for people who like the price point and portability of a netbook, but enjoy the tablet form factor for general or on-the-go use. This doesn't seem to be you and I wouldn't call Android tablets "not useful" when you're basically looking for a full laptop replacement - which this is not.
Edit: Re-read, you have a Macbook, didn't specifically say an Air, but maybe one would be better suited for your needs? It's light, has a full OS and is about as portable as laptops can be.
Having the TF now means that I can leave my laptop in the office for the week & only carry my TF to & from home each evening for email, browsing & other work related things.
On the train I watch a TV show or listen to music on the TF & when home I use kindle to read books in bed.
It isn't a laptop or even a netbook, as someone else said, it is what it is, you just have to find out how to fit it into your life.
Honestly, I love when people come in to a device specific forum and complain about how they don't use/need it. Personally, I found that using wireless tether and tablet keeps it with me and in use everywhere i go.
Huh, for me I've essentially replaced my Work windows laptop with my Transformer.
I use a Combo of the stock browser and Dolphin for Pad for web browsing (stock set to tablet, Dolphin set to desktop). I randomly will have a site act funky, but never been a show stopper.
I picked up a bluetooth keyboard that works great for longer emails and document creation via Polaris Office. None of the Android Office suites are MS Office replacements yet, but Polaris suites my needs.
I have VPN Connections working to connect to my corp network when needed.
2X Client is an amazing RDP client for connecting to boxes on my home network or on the corp network when VPN'd in.
The only thing I have an issue with is printing support for Emails/websites/documents when needed. I can print pictures to my HP via their iPrint app. I haven't researched printing solutions that much yet (open to any good suggestions).
Since I got my Transformer in June, the only time I've gotten my laptop out at home was to run a specific app that is Windows only for my golf league and to print those reports. I inquired with the developers about an Android port, but they said it wasn't on their timeline.
I disagree,
Its not useful to you maybe, but to me its exactly what I bought it to be.
I have read more books on my TF in the past 3 months than I have read in the 2 years before that.
I can browse my PC network from any room in the house, view any pictures, listen to any music and watch every video format I have, wherever, whenever.
I can browse the web conveniently, quickly and almost perfectly on my WiFi connection or using 3G from my Desire.
I can waste a few minutes playing a game, or reading a comic.
I can show off my artwork to customers or friends via the gallery.
I can sketch an idea or write a note, even draw some artwork.
I can see whats on TV next or even watch that thing I missed the night before on catchup.
It's not a PC or laptop replacement, its not meant to be, its the thing you use when you don't have time to boot up your PC, or when you don't want to carry that laptop, or know that you will need more than 3 hours of battery life.
its Amazing....
My TF with the dock now fits neatly between my Evo and my Mac Mini in terms of functionality. My portable computing needs are not that taxing, so the Macbook Pro I had was overkill. Sold it last month and now my TF is my portable. I miss some things about the MBP, namely OS X, but I'm getting used to it.
My TF fits perfect for what i need. Reading news feeds, books, PDF's/documents, emails, taking notes with my stylus, and a quick check of the internet with the browser.
Any heavy usage i rely on my chromebook or work laptop and any heavy reading done with my nook color since it's lighter.
Hungry troll is hungry....
I sure wouldnt lug my desktop out to the back yard for some hammock surfing, nor would I use a laptop for extended reading. I see tablets an extension of my current setup, not as a replacement for anything.
If you don't see a use for tablets, why get one? Personally, aside from nitpicking, I couldn't be more happy about my Transformer. I simply love the little thing.
It's definitely not as effective for some pretty important work related things (ie. I had a lot of trouble making fine details on my presentation slides, but I just decided to do the tiny things on my laptop instead). Of course, I don't expect it to be a desktop/laptop replacement. It's a netbook (and tablet of course), and it's meant to be ultra portable. I love it.
For all of my the things I used to used my netbook for (email, web surfing, basic photo editing, games, movies, books, etc.) the Transformer is more than enough. Anything beyond that I use my desktop. The only thing that I wish would happen is a decent screenwriting application (Celtx hopefully). Opera mobile has no lag for me though the stock browser is pretty slow as you say. I don't think the TF was ever pitched as a netbook replacement. The dock inclusion is mainly aimed for those who want a tablet form factor (touchscreen, thin, high resolution screen) with the occasional benefit of faster input through a keyboard (it also serves as an extended battery and stand).
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the TF is my new laptop. I have my desktop forgaming etc..
The TF does everything else.. this was one of the best buys i have ever made.
what an utterly pointless thread ..... wheres this Iron Fist ????
IMHO, the thing that will make or break the 'usefulness' of a tablet is the software. And of course, everyone's needs will be different.
If you've got to do serious work on it, yeah, you're gonna be better with a full-on laptop. Period.
Myself, I don't need the horsepower of a full laptop, but I do find that the browser on the tablet is pretty slow. Some apps could use a lot of improvement (for instance, I use Polaris Office to interface with Google Docs, but I hate the little return carriage icon it puts after every line in the editor...)
I'm going to hang on to mine because it is useful to me, and as software improves, it will get even more useful.
Its good for books and magazines.
Listening to audio any format
watching movies in SD format only, any higher and experience lag and desync audio
games are enjoyable
internet browsing is ok would be alot better if websites considered ppl touching a screen rather then using a mouse.
some apps beat the website but not many
OP, cry me a river. You don't have anyone to blame other than yourself about the fact that you purchased a device you didn't have the need for.
I've got a gaming desktop with dual 24 inch IPS screens setup; a 15 inch windows/ubuntu Asus laptop; an old iBook acting as a home server; a Galaxy S 4 inch Android smartphone; and an iPod Touch 4th generation (solely for work related testing purposes).
In addition, I was pretty skeptical about the tablets as a device class as a whole before.
Know what? The TF did actually fit me so damn well that I can't imagine not having it now. I had never imagined I'd have those situations and use cases before I actually started using it.
I've had this transformer since it came out. Dont use it much, except when I need to finish up some work on the road which is the reason why I bought it...having the flexibility of keyboard...
Are you still excited about it? What purpose does it serve you? Whats your favorite feature?
I just bought an HDMI to mini HDMI cable so I could connect it at my in laws T.V and my children can watch Netflix or movies we have purchased on Amazon. Any other use for it?
Thank you for your suggestions.
The TF101 is a great device! I've had it almost as long as it's been out and I still love it. If you are having a hard time finding a use for it then you either didn't really need a tablet in the first place or are not looking at its full potential. I use mine for everything, it has totally replaced my laptop. Android has tons of productivity and office apps, apps for sharing documents and other work, loads of games, eBook reading apps, etc., etc.
Any device can be written off as not necessary, after all people can get along just fine with no electronic devices at all (I used to work and live in a wilderness training camp myself). The key to revitalizing the shine on any tablet is to start using it for everyday things and to try changing the look and feel. Try doing something on it that you would normally do on a laptop or PC, after the initial shift in feel you may find that you like the tablet more. You could also try a new ROM to change the look, feel, and performance. If all of this seems like too much work then maybe you should just sell it and move on...tablets are not the answer for everyone.
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If you need others to remind you what you should use your tablet for, then maybe you don't really need one?
I'm not at all saying this to mock you, I purchased a TF101 myself and have the dock too. I use the tablet for Netflix, casual news reading and a little bit of playing games like Machinarium and Rayman Jungle Run. I intended to use it for Skype as well, but the mic volume was always too low so I gave up on that and went back to my laptop for Skype.
My three year old son uses the tablet a lot more than I do for watching videos and playing games in Zoodles Kid Mode.
The dock I use for one thing and one thing only: backup battery when traveling - what a waste of money! (for me)
I like having a tablet even though I'm far from a heavy user and I like my TF101. That said, I'm tempted to get a Nexus 7 and let the Transformer call it a day.
It's convenient, small, and can do everything... well almost. I mostly use it at work to connect to switches, serial ports, etc. That way I don't have to carry the macbook around. Then at home it becomes a remove for my TV device, a portable crappy-game station, a small OGT TV for streaming from the SAN, etc. There's so many uses!
TF101 Uses
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I've had this transformer since it came out. Dont use it much, except when I need to finish up some work on the road which is the reason why I bought it...having the flexibility of keyboard...
Are you still excited about it? What purpose does it serve you? Whats your favorite feature?
I just bought an HDMI to mini HDMI cable so I could connect it at my in laws T.V and my children can watch Netflix or movies we have purchased on Amazon. Any other use for it?
Thank you for your suggestions.
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I love my TF101. Best part is the "instant on" feature. When I need to quickly check something quickly on the Internet without waiting for my laptop or desktop to boot.
How about buying a Bluetooth OBD II adapter (less than $20 on Amazon) buy the app "Torque" and for $25.00 you have an excellent OBD2 diagnostic tool. I have one and it works great!
Rodger
I just use my transformer to output video to my TV. Other than that, not many uses. Used to use it a lot more when I was using my Nexus S.
Now that my phone is more superior (in specs) to my Transformer, I use it a lot less and less.
Would I get another tablet? Probably not because it doesn't fit my needs. For some people, it fits into theirs. For me, I use my desktop a lot so a tablet doesn't necessarily replace anything for me. I find some uses for it when I'm reading on the go though, although this semester it wasn't needed as much--others it was more handy.
Just kind of hard to find the balance between tablet and phone usages, in my opinion.
Was extremely excited to flash ROMs and all that on my TF101, but now that the community isn't as active (most has shifted to other devices) this has gone downhill.
bedtime surfing
I only really use mine for bedtime surfing, youtube and occasionally Music. I like playing with different ROMs and now I'm trying to get Plasma Active (Ubuntu.... proper Linux) on it.
I use mine for a multitude of things, from inventory control, web surfing, submitting customer orders, receiving inventory, word processing, spread sheets, games, and more often then not when I am out camping. I go camping A LOT in summer here in Alaska, so it is a lot easier to tote around the TF101 then it is to tote around my 17" Toshiba laptop.
My tf also serves as my GPS in the car when I'm on the road visiting customers. Tethered to my phone just for the web connectivity since I did not get the 3G version. Honestly the TF has changed the way that I use computers and my work. Yes the "instant on" feature is very nice. But the portability and feature rich ability is the sole reason I wanted one.
Let's see: internet, email, netflix, crackle, remote into home pc and most importantly as a head unit in my truck, lol! Since it is my head unit, I use it almost everyday.
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Let's see: internet, email, netflix, crackle, remote into home pc and most importantly as a head unit in my truck, lol! Since it is my head unit, I use it almost everyday.
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Ok, you get a WIN and a +1 from me. How exactly do you have it as your head unit? Mounts? Pictars wud be gud....Ja!
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Let's see: internet, email, netflix, crackle, remote into home pc and most importantly as a head unit in my truck, lol! Since it is my head unit, I use it almost everyday.
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