[Q] Extended life battery question - HD2 - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

I bought an extended life battery at 2600 mah for the HD2 running darkstone's superram 1.5. This is almost twice the normal battery size yet my battery life seems to be the same. Is their a problem with the battery or should Android be somehow programmed to recognize it?

me too, im using typhoon cm7

Have you checked to see if the included kernel supports extended batteries, official or unofficial???

bates_1974 said:
Have you checked to see if the included kernel supports extended batteries, official or unofficial???
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theres no official 2600ma bat, isnt it?
now im trying raf kernel modded bt arny v3, recalibration baterry on progress

dimqs153 said:
theres no official 2600ma bat, isnt it?
now im trying raf kernel modded bt arny v3, recalibration baterry on progress
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No that was my point, some kernels will support unofficial batteries but not official. Something from arne should work, I know he has made some 2600 supported kernels.

You can also try the newest rafpigna or tytung kernels. They also have the eb fix with them, credits go to arne.

I understand that there is no firmware to support the official extended life battery?

SerGhost said:
I understand that there is no firmware to support the official extended life battery?
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I respond to you now whilst using the official extended battery, just ticked over 11 hours since charge with light to medium usage including calls YouTube, here, several apps games, 74% left, you sir I challenge to a dual about your understanding!!!!!!

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[Q] My HD2 always charge even on 100%

Hi, im on MDJ Froyo Sense Clean
v2.4 With S7.1 Kernel
everything is runing well but it will always charge even when got to 100%
I tryed to delete batterystats and then shutdown and charge until green
but when android is up it changed to anber and says charging
what can i do? Thanks, and sorry about my english
It's just charging, not overcharging, no worries there!
Well that was one of my worries but in still looking for the reason
i thout it was led me know app but removed it and still
The one and only reason is Hastarin's "older" battery driver for extended batteries.
This driver is used by MDeejay in his kernels to support those official extended batteries.
I've discussed this multiple times in both Hastarin's and MDeejay's threads but never got a conclusive reply about this.
In the end it will stop charging and the light will turn green when batt usage falls below 3-4mA. Tested and confirmed.
But I'm sure that this doesn't suit the normal stock battery very well and that's why I use Hastarin's normal kernel (not the eb version) because there's not that driver and now my battery usage, charging and so on are like they supposed to be.
So its the S7.1 kernel? because its support EB
well it shows like it always charging but does it? if it always charge it cant be good
ITAYSHARONI said:
So its the S7.1 kernel? because its support EB
well it shows like it always charging but does it? if it always charge it cant be good
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It's every kernel by MDeejay where he's put extended battery support in.
Every version starting with V4 if I remember correctly.
It's not overcharging that's for sure. And I guess not really damaging the battery but it's not the way that I like it, that's why I said I'm using Hastarin's normal 8.5.1 kernel version where this driver is not present.
But...
In the end, if you leave it long enough on chare it WILL STOP charging and the light WILL turn GREEN.
But then charging cycles will start (back and forth between 99 and 100% and light between amber and green).
Do a search in Hastarin's kernel thread and you'll find my posts about this....
i had kernel 6.1 and i didnt have the problem
about the Hastarin kernel in my opinion the s7.1 is better
work more smooth and 3-5ma on standby
ITAYSHARONI said:
i had kernel 6.1 and i didnt have the problem
about the Hastarin kernel in my opinion the s7.1 is better
work more smooth and 3-5ma on standby
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Then you should ask in Mdeejay's kernel thread...
ok, Thanks h.vanleeuwen

How to activate extended battery support on mdj kernels

i have charged my extended battery for a whole night 8 hours ans still i drains just like the regular battery how should i activate extended battery on mdj7.5 kernel
cardoflex said:
i have charged my extended battery for a whole night 8 hours ans still i drains just like the regular battery how should i activate extended battery on mdj7.5 kernel
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If ur able to use android with ur extended battery, then the kernel patch is doing its job and is already "activated". If it weren't, you wouldn't be able to load up to a launcher.
cardoflex said:
i have charged my extended battery for a whole night 8 hours ans still i drains just like the regular battery how should i activate extended battery on mdj7.5 kernel
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That's what it is suppose to do because it's not fully supported I guess. When it dies (at normal speed) take the battery out for like 5 seconds and then put it back in and turn the phone back on. It will boot up with ~60% battery remaining.
hd2k10 said:
That's what it is suppose to do because it's not fully supported I guess. When it dies (at normal speed) take the battery out for like 5 seconds and then put it back in and turn the phone back on. It will boot up with ~60% battery remaining.
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The code being used is from hastarin and is in beta.... Wait, are you using the 2400mah battery, and not the official one?, if so, then it's a known problem, and none of the kernels have support for it.
Moon2 said:
The code being used is from hastarin and is in beta.... Wait, are you using the 2400mah battery, and not the official one?, if so, then it's a known problem, and none of the kernels have support for it.
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Yes, I assume it only does it because the kernels are supporting the official 2300mA one; but if his is doing the same as mine, I'd imagine he has the 2400mA also.
hd2k10 said:
Yes, I assume it only does it because the kernels are supporting the official 2300mA one; but if his is doing the same as mine, I'd imagine he has the 2400mA also.
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He doesn't have an extended battery, he uses data from the official battery users to modify the kernel to support it. PS. there are other threads mentioning the same problem about this type of battery.
Moon2 said:
He doesn't have an extended battery, he uses data from the official battery users to modify the kernel to support it. PS. there are other threads mentioning the same problem about this type of battery.
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I was referring to the OP having the 2400mA.
You do know the MDJ 7.5 doesn't support the extended battery. You would either have to downgrade to MeeDJay Froyo HD 4.2 (which supports the extended battery) or do a kernel upgrade to MDJ 7.6 (which also supports the extended battery).
Speaking of the extended batt and MDJ.
I had a weird readout on the Leicke 2300mAh one which I believe might be identical to the original HTC.
It would drop 10% the first 30 min with no ussage at all. It would show 10% left at 3.75 Volts or so.
I just installed MCCM_HD_V2.0 and hastarin_r8.5.1_eb. The readout seems alot better now. Now it is at 3.921 Volts and showing 83%
I dnt ave the orginal battery
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
i am not use the official htc battery i bought mines frm amazon or $20 2400
Use hastarin 8.5.1eb, MDJ's ext battery support isn't there yet. I tried his 7.6HD and wasn't reading my battery correctly at all and it was dropping 1% per minute. Under 7.6, my battery read 73%. I switched to hastarin 8.5.1, and the reading was 90% which was the same reading as it was in WinMo.
raysacr said:
Use hastarin 8.5.1eb, MDJ's ext battery support isn't there yet. I tried his 7.6HD and wasn't reading my battery correctly at all and it was dropping 1% per minute. Under 7.6, my battery read 73%. I switched to hastarin 8.5.1, and the reading was 90% which was the same reading as it was in WinMo.
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I second that. Try Hastarin instead of MDJ for the extended batt.
Mine is at 71% now where as with MDJ's kernel it would show around 10%.
thanks very much for ure help guys

kernel extended battery

there is a rom or kernel for extended battery?
would be good for those who have
thanks
desire stock sense rom from cotulla, and many other roms like: MDJ, ...
tritran18518 said:
desire stock sense rom from cotulla, and many other roms like: MDJ, ...
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Are you sure of that? I've been known to be wrong before LOL, but AFAIK the current kernels don't support EB and the rom just boots and switches itself off. Are you running with an EB currently on a NAND build? It will be great to get confirmation that it does indeed work as I'm currently telling other users that EB is not supported yet.
ClydeB1 said:
Are you sure of that? I've been known to be wrong before LOL, but AFAIK the current kernels don't support EB and the rom just boots and switches itself off. Are you running with an EB currently on a NAND build? It will be great to get confirmation that it does indeed work as I'm currently telling other users that EB is not supported yet.
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Some of the kernels compiled by others do not support EB but I've got the "original" nand rom booted on a cheap ebay version....authentic one purchased but won't be here for several weeks so can't confirm about the E400.
mdj has support?
Maybe I use the cheap EB from eBay, not the one from HTC
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my batt is original
sorodrigo said:
there is a rom or kernel for extended battery?
would be good for those who have
thanks
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Not yet, supposedly the ones with hastarin kernel at least let the rom boot fine, but I can't confirm since I left my extended battery in another country and am waiting for my family to send it back to me
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
AFAIK 'Official' EBs need the special Kernel to boot, knock-off ones don't, you just get wrong readings (die in normal time, pop battery out, put back in and have 60% left) --- I have the 2400mAh Ebay-Knockoff and can confirm it working with any EB or Non-EB kernel.
Nand not compatible
Tried Desir HD ROM's, desire ROM from cotulla and none are compatible with eb.
it boots until lock screen then re-start from begining....
on the other hand...
NAND drain less battery than SD builts....
matmar said:
Tried Desir HD ROM's, desire ROM from cotulla and none are compatible with eb.
it boots until lock screen then re-start from begining....
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On a normal Desire build the extended battery would of course work out of the box but EB support has not been a priority for the developers...especially since most don't even have EB's.....in their defense they were busting tail to get nand working and then look at all the nice stuff the bootloaders and clockworks gives us so I am in NO WAY complaining.
The problem is...to add in office EB support they have to take an OLD eb driver and future port it to work with the new desire battery driver.....and no one has been in a rush to do that cause it's NOT a simple process...in the most recent hastarin kernels he had some up with some version that would support the EB but his kernel was PPP only and many of the nand ones are using RMNET again....so...for now you have to bide your time and wait for a cook who actually knows enough to do more then grab the latest GIT code and compile it. Someone like hastarin or cotulla who can actually apply the driver, make required changes and test it out....which means the cook also has to have an offical EB to test with...hastarin got one a while back from donations but I have not seen him posting in the nand forums.
Lastly....you can't just install magldr, play around with nand and then boot your old reliable SD Build from magldr...for whatever reason they will boot and then promptly freeze at the lock screen probably looking for driver support which is not there...so it's kinda an "all or nothing" thing once you decide to "go nand".
mdj's nand rom doesn't support e400.
hope there will be one soon.
Apparently tytung release a kernel for extended battery check out his post...but I can't get it to work
Hastarin's kernel DOES semi support EB... as in it actually lets you use the phone with the official EB...
only problem being it charges to 60% then goes fully charged... similarly it drop from fully charged to 60% in about 20 mins..
apart from that it works....
will do for now untill the EB issue is properly addressed... unless we have to wait for an "official EB from HTC for the Desire/HD/Nexus.
Cambxo said:
Apparently tytung release a kernel for extended battery check out his post...but I can't get it to work
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His kernel is hastarin's 8.6 re-built, it allows to use official EBs but kills the camera.
So it's close but not the solution.
nutmegy said:
Hastarin's kernel DOES semi support EB... as in it actually lets you use the phone with the official EB...
only problem being it charges to 60% then goes fully charged... similarly it drop from fully charged to 60% in about 20 mins..
apart from that it works....
will do for now untill the EB issue is properly addressed... unless we have to wait for an "official EB from HTC for the Desire/HD/Nexus.
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In comments made by hastarin in his sd thread I believe the desire DOES have an extended battery but it's NOT compatible with ours which is why a different driver is required....the normal battery was fine but the EB wasn't when they ported the desire battery driver over but since it gave better support for regular battery then the previously used one they went ahead and used it.
Tytung's Kernel (works for me (not too well), but I'd recommend using the normal battery): Kernel
nutmegy said:
Hastarin's kernel DOES semi support EB... as in it actually lets you use the phone with the official EB...
only problem being it charges to 60% then goes fully charged... similarly it drop from fully charged to 60% in about 20 mins..
apart from that it works....
will do for now untill the EB issue is properly addressed... unless we have to wait for an "official EB from HTC for the Desire/HD/Nexus.
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Not entirely true, it charges full, it only "seems" to charge to 60% because the first reading is read as a stock battery, (it'll 'die' just as fast as a stock battery after fully charged) then all you do is pop the battery out of the phone for like 5 seconds, put it back in and boot up and then you have the remaining ~60%. It's annoying...but it does work.
But as someone stated, the Desire builds actually do (in a sense) support the EB all around, atleast the unofficial ones. It'd charge mine full then drain normal speed to 15% then stay at 15% for hours and hours until the actual EB was at 15%, then drain till dead and actually be dead.
I have an Unofficial 2400mAh EB and have never had a problem (they work with Non-EB Kernels just as well as EB Kernels), the only thing is only Desire builds let you drain the entire battery without reseating the battery.
---Official EBs are another story however, they actually do need an EB-Kernel due to drivers.
2600 mAH Battery Test
Just plugged in a 2600 mah EB (Hongkong) battery and booted. It has booted and begun charging ok. Will post usage results.
Using Clean Desire prj 0.2

[Q] Would having an Extended Battery cause Kernel Issues?

Hey all-- just bought a 2400mAh extended battery. Will there be any kernel issues due to incompatibility or whatnot? Are extended batteries supported?
there may be problems. Some kernels do support extended batteries though, just read the opening post as the chef usually says yey or ney.
optiknerv said:
there may be problems. Some kernels do support extended batteries though, just read the opening post as the chef usually says yey or ney.
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Ok. Thank you kindly!
>>>>>>>>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=813 <<<<<<<<<<
GoCkillaz said:
Hey all-- just bought a 2400mAh extended battery. Will there be any kernel issues due to incompatibility or whatnot? Are extended batteries supported?
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The 2400mAh works fine with and without EB Kernels, only Official Batteries require the EB Kernel due to drivers.
I can confirm the 2400mAh Ebay one working with and without EB Kernels, you just have to take the battery out and put it back in when the phones dies (It'll drain just as fast as a normal battery, then you take the battery out for like 5 seconds, put it back in and then start the phone up and you'll have 60% or so remaining)

ROMs that support extended battery?

Guys i need you help!
A few days ago i stumbled to a cheap extended battery for HD2 and i bought it.
Unfortunately i just found out that most Android NAND ROMs dont support it....
Can you please point me to a ROM build that does support it?
Its a non-HTC 2600mA battery....
Currently im using CoreDroid 1.6 and its draining my extended battery just like a normal one.....
Thanks!
extended battery support is kernel related, not rom related.
every rom which is using the current tytung or rafpigna kernel supports extended battery, so my guess: nearly every rom out there
renna1992 said:
extended battery support is kernel related, not rom related.
every rom which is using the current tytung or rafpigna kernel supports extended battery, so my guess: nearly every rom out there
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Well...CoreDroid 1.6 uses rafpigna 1.9OC kernel.....
Why is it draining my battery so fast?
I charged it to 100% at 16:00,now is 23:30 and its already at 65%.....
neurokrem said:
Well...CoreDroid 1.6 uses rafpigna 1.9OC kernel.....
Why is it draining my battery so fast?
I charged it to 100% at 16:00,now is 23:30 and its already at 65%.....
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how much have you used your phone? if there were a few calls, a lot of music/games/whatsapp/whatever its perfectly normal.
renna1992 said:
how much have you used your phone? if there were a few calls, a lot of music/games/whatsapp/whatever its perfectly normal.
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Not much.
I used like i use it normaly.
A few cals during the day,couple of texts and a few minutes of internet...
My standard battery usualy lasts 24-36hours.
I thought extended battery would give me 2-2.5x longer battery life....
I read somewhere that when battery level reacher zero extended battery users should restart the phone and it will go back to 60%....
I wonder if Android can even charge extended battery to 100%?
If the battery you bought is a non HTC battery then it may not be what it is advertised to be, ie not the ma that it is supposed to be, you hear many stories of cheap or 'fake' extended batteries
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA App
Get "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" and that tells you what mAH your battery is and that way as its non-htc you will know if its genuine, i bought a non htc battery apparently 1600 mAH when i first got phone but had no idea back then and only until i got "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" it told me it was 1230mAH which is the original battery so i just use one as a spare now and take 2 out with me, so i can drain it as much as i want, as i know ill never be without
Ok,here's what i did.I let the phone discharge to 50% thatn i powered it off and took the battery out for 10 seconds.
After rebooting the phone battery level was 78%
Im guessing that rafpigna kernel can read extended batteries just not entirely correct.
I'll wait until phone discharges completely and will take out and reboot again.
I tried Battery monitor widget and it reports 1230ma....
When i finish testing i will report back.

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