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GPRS/Connection stays on and kills my batt. life :(

I have an unlocked Cingular 8525 on TMOBILE. I have TZONES plan. I have it set to check my gmail/hotmail every 60minutes....also have NewsBreak to check RSS feeds 2 times a day.
The problem is that my connection stays on once it is started on its own. Since phone is in my pocket i cant tell till i take it out and then i have to manually close the connection.
So is there a setting or .cab or app to close innactive connection? Anything that wont affect me while im browsing or chatting MSN.
I tried search but could not find the answer, also i suck at searching...sorry.
Thanks in advance!

adam we need a bit more info.
Please could you add the info about your device (ROM, Radio version etc...) into your sig, and also fill out your country and carrier in your profile.
An updated radio stack might fix this.

Having a cab that would turn off inactive connections would be very useful. Hope somebody finds the answer, same thing occurs with my device, I have to manually turn off after finished using. It is possible that the connection will terminate on my device when inactive, I have never trusted it to happen. If it is possible with my current radio is there a way to set the amount of time till disconnect. Maybe you know the answer Mrvanx.

With Comm Mgr Pro you can set to close idle connections for a X quantity of senconds..... (this is, connections that havent data traffic during x seconds)

How can i check my ROM and Radio version? Ive only had my phone for 2 weeks.
The apps connect on their own thru my TZONES GPRS data plan. When they are done getting new mails/rss feeds the connections remains open untill i manualy close it....this eats up my battery.
Where can i get Comm Mgr Pro? HOw much?

danielherrero said:
With Comm Mgr Pro you can set to close idle connections for a X quantity of senconds..... (this is, connections that havent data traffic during x seconds)
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Thanks for the info, I haven't put that on my device as of yet, just waiting to see some additional feedback. I just looked at the post and it seems that there is plenty to read there now, I will read over the course of the day and likely install. Will let you know if I find any issues.

o0adam0o said:
How can i check my ROM and Radio version? Ive only had my phone for 2 weeks.
The apps connect on their own thru my TZONES GPRS data plan. When they are done getting new mails/rss feeds the connections remains open untill i manualy close it....this eats up my battery.
Where can i get Comm Mgr Pro? HOw much?
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Free
Discuss from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299070
Download from www.commmgrpro.com

Here is the thread for comm manager pro.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299070&highlight=comm+mgr+pro

Gracias Daniel!
Hopefuly this solves my issue and i dont have to close my connection manualy many times a day!

o0adam0o said:
Gracias Daniel!
Hopefuly this solves my issue and i dont have to close my connection manualy many times a day!
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My connection is on 24/7 (alot of the time in UMTS mode) and i havent had to charge it up yet since upgrading to the new radio.
GPRS might be attached but its not ALWAYS transferring.

mrvanx said:
My connection is on 24/7 (alot of the time in UMTS mode) and i havent had to charge it up yet since upgrading to the new radio.
GPRS might be attached but its not ALWAYS transferring.
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Good point mrvanx, i always thought the radio was just for wifi
Im going to look into what radio i have and whats the newest one i can upgrade to....and HOW to do it...lol Im a newbie for PPC phones....Ive had 3
S60 Nokias before my 2 week old Hermes. So i got ALOT to learn.

o0adam0o said:
Good point mrvanx, i always thought the radio was just for wifi
Im going to look into what radio i have and whats the newest one i can upgrade to....and HOW to do it...lol Im a newbie for PPC phones....Ive had 3
S60 Nokias before my 2 week old Hermes. So i got ALOT to learn.
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If you wait for about 10 mins im updating my "radio upgrade guide".
The radio stack just controls the phone and GPRS stuff, wifi and BT are part of the OS.
BTW the latest version (1.40.30.00) works great, no complaints of battery drain, shogunmark has had his device on for over a day and is around 50% on battery life.
While you are waiting you might want to safeguard your device against a potential Brick (knackered device) by Flashing HardSPL to your device

If connection is staying on like mine did, it's worth checking data transfer icon is still active on Comm Manager

how to make GPRS/EDGE always on?

I have the t-mobile wing with the $30 total internet unlimited plan, it's so annoying when my GPRS/EDGE connection disconnects itself after a few minutes when i'm on aim or browsing the web, i know there's a patch or hack to make it stay on as long as i want it to, can someone please link me to it, i've been search the forum for 20 minutes already....... THANKS

download at this link
hello,
try this application, it work s for me to turn off edge automatically, but there is an option even for always turn on edge data connection :
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
it wotks fine for my p4350

early81 said:
hello,
try this application, it work s for me to turn off edge automatically, but there is an option even for always turn on edge data connection :
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
it wotks fine for my p4350
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hey thanks! this is EXACTLY what i'm looking for, i used to use it on my windows mobile 2003 device, i hope this one works for wm6 smoothly without any issues...

HI don't know if will work on windos mobile 6 , i'm sure about wm5 it works perfectly on it , i saved up 60% battery every day !!!

Hey this is also what I was looking for. Only I also want to give my premission to make a connection and thats not in this program.

early81 said:
HI don't know if will work on windos mobile 6 , i'm sure about wm5 it works perfectly on it , i saved up 60% battery every day !!!
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anyone know if this works for wm6? i really want to install this if it doesnt mess up anything in wm6 THANKS

early81 said:
HI don't know if will work on windos mobile 6 , i'm sure about wm5 it works perfectly on it , i saved up 60% battery every day !!!
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i don't think having GPRS/EDGE connected all the time would result in such a severe battery drain(-60%) if no data is actually being transferred, meaning if no internet applications are running in the background.

hi,
i too thought that, but try to believe, now i charge herald once 2 days and over, before i was charging once at day ....

early81 said:
hi,
i too thought that, but try to believe, now i charge herald once 2 days and over, before i was charging once at day ....
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lol well... i'm sure there is a battery drain, but not as severely as 60%! if you don't believe me, charge your phone to 100%, then connect to GPRS/EDGE, turn phone off and leave on your desk for a few hours... the battery will probably still show 95% or 98%

Orange Internet - Cost of connection

Hi. Well firstly just a quick hello as this is my first post on these forums!
I've just got my HTC Touch HD and think it's a great phone. However I'm having a few interent connection problems. I'm with Orange and have 500mb a month internet with them. I would like my phone to access my home wifi when at home, my work wifi when at work (which is patchy at the best of times) and when these aren't availabe, connect via orange through my phone.
The problem I have is that I woke up this morning to find my Orange Interent had been on all night (Just over 10 hours)........is this eating into my 500mb limit, or do I have to accessing a program for it to run the 500mb down?
Also, does the GPS for tomtom and google maps need interent access?
Thanks for any light you can she don this!

The 500mb is how much you download to your phone for the month. If your orange internet is on all night, but not downloading anything you are fine, if on the other hand, you had a site eg BBC on opera all night, it will eat up each time the page refreshes.. does this make sense?
One tip I do to ensure I only use wireless is to turn off data communication when in the house, so it only picks up my wifi..

Hi
I'd recommend downloading Tweak HD. It's got lots of options to disable Orange internet and wap to stop things like this happening. I was having the same problem until I got this brilliant program.

Ah great.Thanks guys. There wasn't any programs running, so hopefully it wasnt actually downloading etc. I have tried turning the connection off...but it seems to turn itself back on whenever it needed it!
I'll try the HD Tweak program, I've seen it about but not tried it yet.
Thanks again.

Im on Orange aswel and have the 500MB a month package.
I downloaded an app that you can put in your data plan (500MB) for the month and then it gives you a % of your used and your remaining.
Pretty cool app I must say, and i've never maxed that out and I use my phone constantly, 3 e-mail accounts constantly syncing, google maps (latitude), you tube, tomtom, web pages etc.

Hi JayPeg
I dont suppose you remember where you downloaded it? Or what it was called. Sounds like it would help me get used to knowing the limit.
Thanks for your reply

JayPeg said:
Im on Orange aswel and have the 500MB a month package.
I downloaded an app that you can put in your data plan (500MB) for the month and then it gives you a % of your used and your remaining.
Pretty cool app I must say, and i've never maxed that out and I use my phone constantly, 3 e-mail accounts constantly syncing, google maps (latitude), you tube, tomtom, web pages etc.
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In future try and provide names of software to help other users otherwise your post is useless.

You can achieve that with SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/).
They have a 14-day trial to try out the tool.

The HD will always use wifi in preference to 3g, unless you've changed something there.
The problem comes if you don't close apps fully, many of them stick with the same connection they used last. You can demonstrate this with websites like whatismyip.com , note your 3G and wifi ones and do some experiments.

K_Hismoom said:
You can achieve that with SPB Wireless Monitor (http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/wirelessmonitor/).
They have a 14-day trial to try out the tool.
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SPB Wireless Monitor is useful, but I found there was often up to a 50MB difference (sometimes over, sometimes under) when compared to my Orange Bill. Visiting http://orangeworld.co.uk from your phone will give you an accurate (accurate in terms of what Orange will bill you for anyway and it's also sometimes a little out of date) measurement of network usage.

moshbeard said:
Visiting http://orangeworld.co.uk from your phone will give you an accurate (accurate in terms of what Orange will bill you for anyway and it's also sometimes a little out of date) measurement of network usage.
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I only get info on SMS and call timers from there? Any ideas why that might be?

Data Connection keeps turning itself on?

I turn my data connection off through the phone settings but it seems to keep turning itself back on? Has anyone experienced this and/or knows how to sort it out?
Cheers guys

Yes there are many threads about this, check you have no auto connections enabled, like weather, facebook, mail ect, but to be honest, if the data connection is idle, it uses no more power than if it were off, i let mine run all day and i only loose 10% battery, and thats checking email every 2 hours and weather updating every 3.
Leo really is an always on device.
There are reg tweeks and cabs, and progs to help, but i found them all pretty buggy and useless, just leave it on and dont worry.
Now if you can stop the damn wireless disconnecting on sleep im a happy man .

I'll take that advice my good man ;p
Nice one bruvver ;p

jrvenge said:
Now if you can stop the damn wireless disconnecting on sleep im a happy man .
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You don't want that.. trust me. It brings a whole new meaning to 'battery hog'!

you can also configure another data connection with fake data to prevent it from connecting.

Werid that cus my nokia 5800 stays connected to wireless for 3 days on one charge?

It is strange, but data connection almost constantly on didn't affect my HD2's battery life too badly..in fact it made almost no difference.
maybe because battery life wasn't very good in the first place

Well it should not unless its being used, good advice is drop to GSM only if you dont neet a fast connection, i have my device on GSM always, and use Morits com manager to switch to 3G+ if i need the speed, i have done this with all my phones.
3G is a bit of a power monster, and rather pointless drain unless your using it.

I,m using Nodata program to disable data connections. The draw back is you have to enable them back if you want to use internet. The program is definetly good for roaming if you want to be on a safe side.
http://htcdriver.com/index.php?page=nodata

Hey thats a handy app thanks

nodata switched my data connection back on while abroad. I just hope not to get a horrific bill now!!!

HD2 has useless 3G ? Trouble initializing connection upon request

Hey, I have a serious problem with my hd2 that nakes it practically useless as an internet device.
every time i try to connect to the internet using msn, opera, rss, youtube etc it wont even try to connect and switch radio to H.. only after trying a few times it randomly works. like theres a problem with requesting 3g.
I have tried it on various roms and radios, task29, you name it.
This makes me really want to sell the device but hopefully someone can help me keep it because its.mostly good !
thanks for any tip!

Silencer23 said:
Hey, I have a serious problem with my hd2 that nakes it practically useless as an internet device.
every time i try to connect to the internet using msn, opera, rss, youtube etc it wont even try to connect and switch radio to H.. only after trying a few times it randomly works. like theres a problem with requesting 3g.
I have tried it on various roms and radios, task29, you name it.
This makes me really want to sell the device but hopefully someone can help me keep it because its.mostly good !
thanks for any tip!
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have u tried hooking up to wi-fi?
try switching sim cards with some1 else who has a data plan
1) the same provider as u
2) different provider as u
if 1 & 2 works, it might be ur sim card
if only 2 works, mayb u wanna give ur provider a call..
hope it helps..

Silencer23 said:
Hey, I have a serious problem with my hd2 that nakes it practically useless as an internet device.
every time i try to connect to the internet using msn, opera, rss, youtube etc it wont even try to connect and switch radio to H.. only after trying a few times it randomly works. like theres a problem with requesting 3g.
I have tried it on various roms and radios, task29, you name it.
This makes me really want to sell the device but hopefully someone can help me keep it because its.mostly good !
thanks for any tip!
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I would suggest trying a friends sim card (preferably a different network) and seeing if you can narrow the problem down to either the phone or your service provider

That is a good idea, will do !
Any other suggestions while I search for a friend ?

don't know about winmo, but I was walking with a friend, when suddenly she asked me to download a song, I normally never use 3G, because data isn't standard in my plan, so I have to additionally pay for it, and I downloaded 20 mb in 3 minutes, so I'm not saying this is really fast, but as far as I'm concerned, it's a good speed for browsing. As stated above, maybe buy a sim from another operator, with a reload card system.. those are cheap. Test it out, changes between ops are huge. Depending on how to coverage is in your area...