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Spent a week with it. So useful and can totally see where a tablet fits into my life. Unfortunately, build quality issues will have me returning it back to Walmart. Sad to see it go though. Maybe will come back to this one since features are the best. New Samsung one looks very nice as well but loses some features that I might need.
What was wrong with yours?
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yes, ive been thinking of getting one, but ill have to order online
what sort of issues did you have?
The biggest issue is light bleeding from the bottom edge (in landscape mode). So bright and some on other edges too. Also it creaks everywhere. Friends pick it up and immediately notice the shoddy manufacturing. As an OS, it is awesome.
one thing about the design of the TF101... other than the oft complained about sharp edges, do the power/volume buttons seems a little cheap as well? I don't have much experience with other tablets, but these feel a little like the ones on cheap electronics in past years.
I have not had many issues with creaks, but while the screen is great to look at I too have much light bleed and there is a random blotch on the screen that is noticeable in darker screens. lastly I noticed a stuck/dead pixel also in a dark screen but that is too small to care about. I will be exchanging mine once best buy gets more stock though.
I do love the tablet very much.
i have the same light bleed issue but none of the creakiness. i don't see how they can let that happen on so many devices where one of the main selling points is the high quality display.
the most irritating thing for me is that whenever i boot it up or play a video on mute an odd crackle comes out of the speakers. i just don't understand why that has to happen.
Mine is going back to BB right after the weekend. Its not a bad tablet, but my old G-tab kicks this things ass all over the place. I find it to be slow at doing most everything compared to the g-tab. No benefit for the money and that stupid propritory usb cord at the bottom of it. Looked promising, but for the money I will buy more g-tabs.
flintdragon said:
The biggest issue is light bleeding from the bottom edge (in landscape mode). So bright and some on other edges too. Also it creaks everywhere. Friends pick it up and immediately notice the shoddy manufacturing. As an OS, it is awesome.
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I'm not noticing any of that, mine is well built and beautiful, and no light bleed. Maybe you just got a bad one.
Mine has a tiny bit of light bleed on the bottom when in landscape mode. But it's absolutely not a deal breaker by any means. You guys have super high standards or something.
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Mine is going back to BB right after the weekend. Its not a bad tablet, but my old G-tab kicks this things ass all over the place. I find it to be slow at doing most everything compared to the g-tab. No benefit for the money and that stupid propritory usb cord at the bottom of it. Looked promising, but for the money I will buy more g-tabs.
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Not to diss you, bro, but that is some ridiculous sh!t right there. I have the GTab, Xoom, and the Transformer. The only thing 'better' about the GTab is that there has been more time to develop on it, so the options are more varied for root/kernel/ROM activities. The TF101 is already well on it's way there (and it is brand new).
Hardware-wise...there is no comparison. I've got two words for you: viewing angle.
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Not to diss you, bro, but that is some ridiculous sh!t right there. I have the GTab, Xoom, and the Transformer. The only thing 'better' about the GTab is that there has been more time to develop on it, so the options are more varied for root/kernel/ROM activities. The TF101 is already well on it's way there (and it is brand new).
Hardware-wise...there is no comparison. I've got two words for you: viewing angle.
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Agreed... I HATED my GTab for those viewing angles (or lack thereof)
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Agreed... I HATED my GTab for those viewing angles (or lack thereof)
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100% Agreed! My GTab screen is horrible. The screen alone on my TF is well worth it.
Interesting, just got mine today and absolutely no light bleed, no creaks. Seems solid to me.
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Mine doesn't creak. I read in the FAQ (in the stickies) that if yours creaks, exchange/RMA it.
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Mine doesn't creak. I read in the FAQ (in the stickies) that if yours creaks, exchange/RMA it.
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Youre holding it wrong!!!!! You're suppose to squeeze it and not hold it!!!!
Honestly, I have quite the opposite experience with my TF. My TF feels as solid/sturdy as any other tablet I've held and I was actually pleasantly surprised when I received it. Some minor light bleed from one of the corners, but I didn't even notice it until I inspected it and any iPad I've ever seen has had much worse.
Not to say you didn't have a bad unit possibly, just don't want people to get the wrong idea. I love my TF and am more than satisfied with it's build quality. If build quality is an issue for you, I'd be careful with the new Samsung. Their devices all feel cheap shoddy to me at least.
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Honestly, I have quite the opposite experience with my TF. My TF feels as solid/sturdy as any other tablet I've held and I was actually pleasantly surprised when I received it. Some minor light bleed from one of the corners, but I didn't even notice it until I inspected it and any iPad I've ever seen has had much worse.
Not to say you didn't have a bad unit possibly, just don't want people to get the wrong idea. I love my TF and am more than satisfied with it's build quality. If build quality is an issue for you, I'd be careful with the new Samsung. Their devices all feel cheap shoddy to me at least.
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Ditto on all of that from me
Asus did mention quality issues as the reason for the shipment delays, i will be getting another one in June so i'll see then
Overall, i am happy with it, mine does creak, but i can live with it, I did not want to invest alot of money in a tablet, i think $400 is an excellent price
Plus the interest in the device made me want to get it, the threads are really popular
and if the build quality on the models in the summer is better and it eliminates the creaks , i will send it in under warranty
im waiting on amazon.ca to ship my tablet i hope mine don't crack and creak , but if it does i don't think ill return it
ouch...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/22/motorola-xoom-display-is-low-end-and-poorly-calibrated-according-to-displaymate-showdown/
Say it aint so. Heh
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Just a repost of what Xoom owners have known since they first bought their tablet.
The screen is garbage.
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Just a repost of what Xoom owners have known since they first bought their tablet.
The screen is garbage.
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I like mine but that crap about the screen dimmer is true and it is annoying
Yawn neeeeeext!
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The screen is just as good as any regular average computer monitor.
Transformer= cheap p.o.s. build quality & ****ty battery (tablet only, who really cares about it's performance as a netbook? if i wanted one i'd buy one)
Ipad2= nice, but like being on house arrest, or watching tv with everything over PG on parental lock. far too many limits.
I'm very happy with my Xoom and it's "bad" screen.
Hi all,
Well the first thing i did when i set my Xoom up was turn off Auto Brightness as i do on all my devcies and turned brightness on full and found the screen on the Xoom to be bright and sharp. Then i strated reading all these posts about how poor the Xoom screen was and just couldn't understand it at all as my experiences are totally different. Only when i turned on the Auto brightness did i suddenly see what the compliants where about as it made the screen horrible. But really the fix is so simple just don't use Auto brightness and its all good IMHO.
Marc
Actually, if you read carefully through the test results, none of the displays did all that well. What really put the XOOM screen in last place was screen reflections and poor viewing angles, in most other critical tests, results were equal to or close to the competition.
If you put an anti-reflective screen protector on the XOOM, it compensates well for the XOOM's biggest shortcoming, screen reflections - (I use Boxwave Cleartouch Anti-Glare on the XOOM) the difference is pretty amazing and the screen looks quite good.
I am surprised that these professional reviewers made no mention of the two versions of the XOOM screen. So we don't even know which screen version they reviewed.
i llike the zoom screen. With autobrightness on.
Yep, I've turned off auto-brighness and have an anti-glare, anti-fingerprint screen protector and I've never looked back. I have zero complaints about the screen now.
Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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+1. I completely agree. This whole thread seems like not much more than an exercise to justify someone's choice to sell the Xoom for another tablet.
I use A LOT of devices during my work day....and in terms of day to day use I have been very happy with the Xoom's screen.
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Who actually compares screens side by side? It's a bit like a ****-length contest. I'm happy with mine but I don't feel the need to wave it about next to others to impress....
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I totally agree. There will always be something bigger ( so to speak) and better what I find funny is that they didn't mention the bleeds and dust specks people are having on those other screens. There screen might be better but mines clearer oh and it works like it suppose to.
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I went to Bestbuy on Sat and looked at the SGT10.1 and iPad 2, played with both for a good few minutes, I'd say the iPad is at the top in terms of screen crispness and picture quality, iPad OS in general is very polished ... the SGT and Xoom imo is a close second, I have an anti glare protector on my Xoom so it does reduce the picture quality obviously. As said above set the brightness to 50-60% and you will see the Xoom screen pop.
All in all the Xoom will stay with me for two reasons ... SD card access (I have mine rooted so no crying about lack of SD access) and 2ndly it is so versatile having access to ROM's and Kernels, this kills my desire to ever want an iPad, I hate to be boxed in.
It's funny, the screen was one of the major reasons I returned my iPad2. I hated it because the resolution was too low, which made text look horrible.
The Xoom screen is brilliant as long as you take the brightness off auto.
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The Xoom screen is brilliant as long as you take the brightness off auto.
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That! Think that this was the first thing that I did on my Xoom.
I was using an ipad 2 the other day and yes the screen is far clearer but my xoom feels more like a mans toy rather then a childs toy.
dont mind having a worse screen when my battery lasts 4 days and i can do what i want with it and not controlled my apple.
also wouldnt get the transformer due to the speaker locations makes it to wide.
you get what you are happy with.
i love my xoom. i came from the viewsonic gtab so i naturally love the xoom screen compared to the gtab.
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I totally agree. There will always be something bigger ( so to speak) and better what I find funny is that they didn't mention the bleeds and dust specks people are having on those other screens. There screen might be better but mines clearer oh and it works like it suppose to.
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I think it's silly the "guru" of displays didn't review the GTab 10.1, since it's using a PLS screen which is Samsung's competitor to IPS.
Regarding the 'comparison' comments however: I was recently seated next to a woman on a flight from NYC and she had an iPad2. As I sat there and looked at a magazine on my xoom, I couldn't help but notice that her screen had outstanding viewing angles. When I put the xoom onto my lap and looked at it, the colors washed out and looked terrible. I ended up returning it and bought a GTab instead.
So - I think comparisons are valid, here. Especially in an environment where a direct comparison could be made. In my case it was on a plane, where I happen to be a lot.
The GTab's screen is fantastic. As good as the iPad2. The build quality on my unit is fine, but there are a lot of complaints about dust under the screen, and so on. I would gladly go back to the 'thicker' xoom if they came out with a higher quality screen. The xoom felt great. But in the end, the screen sucked (I had the Sharp with bad light leakage) and that was, in a word, unacceptable - no matter how many people trumpet out that screen bleeding on tablets is normal. It's not.
This is definitely a superior phone to the iphone 4 in most ways, with things such as swype, larger screen, 1080p video, 8MP camera to mention a few. But every time I see an iphone4, I can't help wishing the SGS2 looked more like it. The iphone 4 is aesthetically pleasing with that really nice brushed silver band all the way around it and those cool silver buttons such as the two separate volume rockers. And the back of it has that super polished black glass with silver or white logo. I suppose it would be more fragile if dropped than the SGS2. The whole thing just looks so sexy.
I'm not suggesting my SGS2 is ugly, far from it, it's beautiful, but it's perhaps more like the iphone 3G in shape, ie, a slightly older design copy. I'd like to see the SGS3 looking more like the iphone4. Anyone agree or perhaps you don't find the iphone that special to look at?
if they where to make it have more of a premium feel it would be more heavier and i think they like it light i also think the sgs 3 when it comes out will be lighter with a better screen probably 4.4 or 4.5 inch screen
Hmm, i've seen enough people with iphone4s oggling my sgs2 so I guess it can't look that bad, I understand what you mean about the iphone 4 looking pretty but I wouldn't want a copy
actually, i'd be happy if the SGS series looked nothing like the iPhones at all! What's the point of having an iPhone clone that's not an iPhone? Or a device that's clearly better, only to be labeled as it's clone?
As much as i hate to admit it, the series so far has already quite clearly been inspired by iPhone design, resulting in lawsuits and what not - as well as the wrath of both the android and iPhone community - calling the phones 'clones' of the iphone (SGS1 vs 3gs especially).
it's just that it's such an amazing series of phones - clearly superior to anything else out there - so i do wish it had it's own distinct design philosophy. A bit like what HTC is doing with it's unibody design - it might be gimmicky but it's certainly distinct and it defines and separates HTC phones from other ones in the market.
Though it's clear that samsung worked hard on the SGS2 design. i really do like it, and to make such a powerful phone so thin is a marvel of design and engineering in itself. The monolithic and minimalist exterior are a step in the right direction, so too is the textured back. The only thing i'd change is removing the home-button and the chrome border around the phone, and the samsung logo from the front - so that the face of the phone would look like a slab of black industrial sexiness - somewhat like the nexus s.
Even though I must confess to being a dedicated anti-fan of all things Apple, I honestly believe the iPhone 4 is the single ugliest piece of hardware I have seen in a long time - square, boxy, dull...and that's before you turn the thing on and the boredom levels reach critical.
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Even though I must confess to being a dedicated anti-fan of all things Apple, I honestly believe the iPhone 4 is the single ugliest piece of hardware I have seen in a long time - square, boxy, dull...and that's before you turn the thing on and the boredom levels reach critical.
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That made me lulz.
I feel the same, I think the iPhone overall well crafted, but far from special. and it does indeed hit critical when you switch that screen on lol.
People say that the phone can't be premium and light but I'd argue that a Titanium chassis would probably be lighter than plastic. I think to make the SGS2 more premium removing the lump from the bottom of the phone would work wonders. Again the bezel could have been Titanium, which would have looked cool. If anything getting rid of the home key would have made the phone more Samsung and less iPhone.
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Even though I must confess to being a dedicated anti-fan of all things Apple, I honestly believe the iPhone 4 is the single ugliest piece of hardware I have seen in a long time - square, boxy, dull...and that's before you turn the thing on and the boredom levels reach critical.
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You must not see much hardware in your day to day, or your Apple hatred is blinding you. There's tons of ugly, tacky and terribly designed hardware being released every day. Just look at the PC Modding community or all the mid and low-end phones.
@diablous
You are correct, the build quality is very good and we shouldn't forget that.
It's the design I have a problem with - it's like a 1970/80s Volvo - you know you're not going to come off worst if you hit anything smaller than a sixteen wheeler, but it's not going to attract anything much better than Susan Boyle in the lady stakes.
For the record I'm not overwhelmed by the SGS2 either. It's OK and certainly a bit better than the iPhone 4. iPhone 3 was actually quite sexy...but still boring.
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I don't disagree, but I'm talking high end kit here, not the dodgy clones and wannabees
The SGS2 and all Samsung smartphones before it look like an evolution of other Samsung phones that came out before the iPhone.
Samsung copied nothing. The F700, which came out before the iPhone, had the metal surround, square centre button and similar interface.
Even if Apple had a point about the SGS2 looking like the iPhone, which i dont think it does, it still has a problem with the fact that if anything the iPhone copied Samsungs design in the first place. Lets also not forget that the iP4 has design elements that clearly came from the Nokia N96..
looking at it from eastetics i'd say sgs2 is more beautiful than the ip4
it's thinner, lighter and the overal blackness appeals me alot
but i have to give it to the ip4 handle wise
it has a mute switch and spreaker on the bottom side.
best layout i have ever worked with is an idevice.
and headset remote with volume is for me also a big plus
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It's the design I have a problem with - it's like a 1970/80s Volvo - you know you're not going to come off worst if you hit anything smaller than a sixteen wheeler, but it's not going to attract anything much better than Susan Boyle in the lady stakes.
For the record I'm not overwhelmed by the SGS2 either. It's OK and certainly a bit better than the iPhone 4. iPhone 3 was actually quite sexy...but still boring.
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What you call boring, for some of us, means classy, clean and beautiful. Everyone has their own idea of what looks good. The iPhone has always been regarded as one of the best looking hardware pieces ever made, in all it's versions and Apple has always spent a lot of money on getting the design right.
Just as a curiosity, what do you consider a good looking phone that isn't "boring"?
I love the body. BEFORE the iPhone 4, ask yourself, what was each manufacturer trying to achieve with there phones? (flagships/higher band phones)
THEY WANTED thinness AND lightness.
As soon as the iPhone 4 comes along, the whole industry generally tries to focus on heavier phones. The GS2, makes a stand and brings a whole new feel.
I personally feel uncomfortable with an iPhone 4 in my hand because it feels very brick-like (mainly due to the weight).
Plus, look at home many iPhone users converted to The GS2. I've seen SO many on the forums. God knows how many there are around the world.
I also like the smooth plastic on the bottom-back. (the bulgy bit with the speaker)
Whether it was intentional design or not, I think it's great for some grip and I generally find my little finger resting on the verge (where the back cover rises to the smooth plastic)
i think the SGS2 is a pretty good looking Phone had friends pick it up and say "this is really nice", or "wow that is light!" etc. i think its a Great phone. i Hate iPhones tbf but i did have an iPhone 4 and think the quality of the build was Slightly better (bar the stupid antenna design.. Doh!) mainly due to the higher quality materials used. still cant complain though, i love my S2 !
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What you call boring, for some of us, means classy, clean and beautiful. Everyone has their own idea of what looks good. The iPhone has always been regarded as one of the best looking hardware pieces ever made, in all it's versions and Apple has always spent a lot of money on getting the design right.
Just as a curiosity, what do you consider a good looking phone that isn't "boring"?
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Not sure why you are getting quite so defensive about me expressing my opinion when you then go on to present your own highly subjective opinion as if it is fact. You sound a bit like an Apple fanboi? At least I have been quite open in expressing my prejudice against Apple.
To satisfy your curiosity, I like the HD2 - nice mix of functional oblong and sexy curves. Now, to be clear, that's my opinion, not a statement of fact. It's neither right nor wrong.
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Not sure why you are getting quite so defensive about me expressing my opinion when you then go on to present your own highly subjective opinion as if it is fact. You sound a bit like an Apple fanboi? At least I have been quite open in expressing my prejudice against Apple.
To satisfy your curiosity, I like the HD2 - nice mix of functional oblong and sexy curves. Now, to be clear, that's my opinion, not a statement of fact. It's neither right nor wrong.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound aggressive. I do like Apple and I love their industrial design. I am not, however, a "fanboi" or else I wouldn't have an SGS2 and an HTC Sensation with me
I admit I just find it hard to conceive the iPhone 4 as "ugly", but again, to each his own and I really can't blame you for voicing your own opinion. My apologies. I just wanted to debate a bit on the idea of phone design, which is something I find very interesting.
I agree on the HD2, it's introduces a bit of a "mean" look to the slate design and makes it look tough. The only thing I don't like are the curved buttons. I think squared ones would've looked better.
Come on guys!
This phone is a real master piece, definitely unique in design and really appealing!
It's great to be special!
I wish they...
1- Change the logo
2- Place the speaker at the bottom (to prevent sound muffling)
3- Make a mute button
4- Place the power button at the top (mistakenly pressed when pressing volume rocker)
iphone = glassy brick ....................
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Come on guys!
This phone is a real master piece, definitely unique in design and really appealing!
It's great to be special!
I wish they...
1- Change the logo +1
2- Place the speaker at the bottom (to prevent sound muffling) +1
3- Make a mute button. Maybe a button mapping, like a long press on the volume down or something, but not a separate button.
4- Place the power button at the top (mistakenly pressed when pressing volume rocker) +1
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound aggressive. I do like Apple and I love their industrial design. I am not, however, a "fanboi" or else I wouldn't have an SGS2 and an HTC Sensation with me
I admit I just find it hard to conceive the iPhone 4 as "ugly", but again, to each his own and I really can't blame you for voicing your own opinion. My apologies. I just wanted to debate a bit on the idea of phone design, which is something I find very interesting.
I agree on the HD2, it's introduces a bit of a "mean" look to the slate design and makes it look tough. The only thing I don't like are the curved buttons. I think squared ones would've looked better.
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No worries my friend, a bit of healthy debate is always good.
We can agree to disagree about the iPhone, but at least we have some common ground on the HD2.
I'll see your square buttons and raise you soft buttons like the SGS2 though - the only real weakness (in my opinion) with the HD2 was the tendency of the touchscreen to fail apparently because of some connectivity issue caused by wear from repeated use of the power button. Twice mine had to go back for repair.
I'm not sure the SGS2 will ever rival the HD2 for versatility, but it's the first phone that I've had that can work quickly enough to keep me from getting impatient. It's a heck of a device, iClone or not. (And I say definitely NOT)
Honestly never want to own a phone with the iPhone 4 design again. While it looks nice, it demands a case. Drop it your screwed, oh and its a smudge fest front and back.
Hey guys! Just made my first impressions video on the Galaxy Note 4! Went a different route and didn't get into the obvious since it's not a full review, and just went into how it felt using the device for a short time.
Video link:
The Galaxy Note 4 - My Casual First Impressions: http://youtu.be/-FPV6Vlu0qg
Written:
The first thing you’re going to notice with the Galaxy Note 4 is it’s excellent build quality, rivaled by only a few phones. Having owned a Note 3 and being satisfied with it’s fake metal banding, once you get a phone with this kind of build quality you really realize what you were missing out on. Holding it gives you a very premium feel in your hand which is awesome. Even with the chamfered edges, it’s still comfortable to hold. I’d say it feels better and more substantial in your hand than that of the LG G3 even with it being quite a bit larger.
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The display on this is my favorite. Displaymate also says this is the most accurate display on the market today. One thing I missed from using phones with an LCD display, is when the background is black.. the pixels are still lit up. As we all know, this is not the case with samsung phones and the blacks are purely black and really make the images pop. Oh, and for all the people that complain and say the screen it too vibrant? You realize you basically have a TV in your pocket, right? Go to the settings and CHANGE it do a different mode. Cinema mode is what seems to be the most accurate.
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The back, still being faux leather, still feels very nice in the hand and personally.. I like a plastic back. When I owned the HTC One I was way to scared to set that thing down without a case because I didn’t want to either, A, mess up the screen. Or B, mess up the nice metal backing. Not to mention in the winter it can get quite cold to the touch and just isn’t worth the trade-off to me.
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Performance on this thing is just incredible. Now I don’t like stock launchers. Even with the Nexus 6 I will be putting Nova launcher on it. So all of that “touchwiz lag” people talk about, I’ve yet to see it no this phone while with my Note 3, the first day you could notice it right off that bat with certain things. Keep in mind, switching the launcher only changes your homescreen, touchwiz is still everywhere else. But.. it’s a lot better than it was.
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One thing that I’ve noticed with this phone and that can get quite annoying is the feature to minimize whatever screen you’re on. It’s a really nice feature, but I find myself accidentally activating it all the time when trying to go to my notification tray. I like to swipe down from the corner, and now that is how you minimize the app. So, I now have to adjust a bit and make sure I’m not hitting the corner exactly.
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One thing I didn't plan on mentioning with this phone was the whole "gapgate" issue. Because to me, while I could see very clearly in videos that there is some sort of gap, I figured it wouldn't effect anything on a day-to-day basis, if at all. That was until today.
I took my phone out of my pockets (it's the weekend, I'm wearing only sweats and casual clothes), and sure enough.. there was lint or something at the top of the display. So I had to actually take a receipt I had laying around to dig it out because sadly, my nails would not suffice.
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Conclusion:
Other than the small gripe I have with the minimizing the window and the.. I'm not even sure if it should be a big deal to me or not, gap issue, this phone is absolutely incredible.
However, if you're ready for an upgrade, wait until the Nexus 6 is out officially before deciding on whether you should get this, the Nexus 6, or for you Verizon folk, the Droid Turbo.
nice video
appreciate your input, good video!
Turn off multi window if you don't use it and it won't minimize window
You can turn of the swipe to minimize gesture but still keep multi window on but you'll have to activate it by holding the back button
Well I'm returning s8 plus. It just can't beat out pixel overall. Pros and cons of s8 plus for anybody interested.
Pros
Screen- is bright and very big
Battery- best battery I've ever used to date
Sdcard- also best phone with sd slot I've used to date, loads 10,000 plus photos in seconds
Camera- excels in low light, regular light it can't touch pixel
Web pages- loading and scrolling is probably fastest I've ever seen on mobile device
Samsung pay- still love Samsung pay over Android pay
No bezels- looks amazing and sleek
Samsung ui- I've always loved it and I still like it. Has countless options that are unreal but still not as fast as pure Android but that's to be expected
Edge screen- probably my favorite feature. Absolutely love night clock
Cons
Screen- is weird ratio and colors look over saturated except on basic mode then everything else looks washed out. Some apps don't like no bezels. Keyboard is weird and reply tabs in notification bar are very tiny and odd
Camera- normal light pixel has it beat, too saturated and unrealistic
Fingerprint sensor location- yes you get used to it but back on pixel and it is still way easier
Screen protector/case- good luck getting a glass screen protector to stick and a case to match without intruding on each other
No bezels- I found it hard to reach to bottom of phone for home button or anything on nav bar really
Bixby/buttons- bixby needs no statement it is just rubbish (and bixby button) and the other buttons are spread out. I like how pixel has volume and power on same side and textured power button
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Well I'm returning s8 plus. It just can't beat out pixel overall. Pros and cons of s8 plus for anybody interested.
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Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.
[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)
However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]
Enjoy your Pixel XL
coldmethod said:
Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.
[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)
However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]
Enjoy your Pixel XL
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They might but things like the over saturated screen and weird ratio are very big deals to me so therefore they outweigh all the good lol
Yes the fingerprint is weird. I honestly think they quit R&Ding the device and just threw on back to beat iphone out and get some sales. Hopefully they take their time with the Note 8 and it is perfection. I would rather have my note 7 back over the s8 plus at this point.
Touchwiz has gotten better but yes it could still use some more features. But hey they all could always use more feautres!
oneandroidnut said:
They might but things like the over saturated screen and weird ratio are very big deals to me so therefore they outweigh all the good lol
Yes the fingerprint is weird. I honestly think they quit R&Ding the device and just threw on back to beat iphone out and get some sales. Hopefully they take their time with the Note 8 and it is perfection. I would rather have my note 7 back over the s8 plus at this point.
Touchwiz has gotten better but yes it could still use some more features. But hey they all could always use more feautres!
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Fair call on the oversaturation, I think I have just gotten used to it (almost all of my devices are Samsung, I'm constantly fiddling with our TV picture settings ). Although I'd probably suggest getting used to the new aspect ratio, I imagine it will make an appearance on the Note 8 and become the norm, considering Samsung now has a penchant for using large phones with one hand.
Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.
No bezel - this is a plus for me, and most people. This is the way smartphones are going. Less bezel = better phone. More for aesthetics than anything.
Screen protector/case - I never use them. They ruin the look and feel of the phone.
Camera - still the best on the market in my opinion. Beats anything else out there.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...probably-shouldnt-buy-a-google-pixel-anymore/
the_scotsman said:
Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.
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Cheers for the tip, I hadn't touched this setting, but now I've made the switch it looks much better.
coldmethod said:
Fair call on the oversaturation, I think I have just gotten used to it (almost all of my devices are Samsung, I'm constantly fiddling with our TV picture settings ). Although I'd probably suggest getting used to the new aspect ratio, I imagine it will make an appearance on the Note 8 and become the norm, considering Samsung now has a penchant for using large phones with one hand.
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Yeah I don't like the fake look though. If I take a photo I want it to be realistic. I took some photos and then look at photo and object and was like man it looks way off. The note 8 better have a normal screen ratio!
the_scotsman said:
Default screen mode is Adaptive - this over saturates the screen colours. Use Amoled Photo. This is calibrated to Adobe RGB standard.
No bezel - this is a plus for me, and most people. This is the way smartphones are going. Less bezel = better phone. More for aesthetics than anything.
Screen protector/case - I never use them. They ruin the look and feel of the phone.
Camera - still the best on the market in my opinion. Beats anything else out there.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...probably-shouldnt-buy-a-google-pixel-anymore/
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I can't stand the over saturation. Looks bad unless you drop to basic. Pixel camera is best imo ?
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I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
TheAnarchist1 said:
I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
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I couldn't have said it better. The s8 is just so close to perfection but so far from it lol
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I smell descent in the S8+ ranks... lol
coldmethod said:
Looks like your Pros outweigh your Cons, although I do agree with your statement on the fingerprint scanner.
[RANT]Whatever possessed Samsung to place it where it is, is beyond me, for me the placement has rendered it pretty much well useless (Yes, in time you will get used to it; I could also get used to driving my car from the back seat, but bad design is bad design). Thankfully there are other options to secure your phone (facial recognition is by far my favourite and quickest; Even if it isn't as secure...)
However, I have always detested Touchwiz, even with the constant improvements it doesn't compare to some of the top launchers out there.[/RANT]
Enjoy your Pixel XL
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I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
I forgot garbage bixby and the button!!!
Edited op for it!
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you forgot a couple more things that makes the s8+ sweep the floor with it..
HDR screen certification.
IP68 water and dust proofing.
Wireless charging and Fast Wireless Charging
Micro SD card expansion.
Bluetooth 5.0
Always On Display.
Iris scanner security.
bye felicia
-Alan said:
I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
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I also read somewhere that the above sensor placement may hold the CrApple iSh#t 8 from being delivered as per their normal schedule, if it is true at least CrApple have the sense to ensure deadlines don't affect the final product. (please excuse my uncharacteristic optimism regarding CrApple products)
For the fanboys/fence sitters - Yes Apple has it's applications, yes some people prefer simple... this is an Android forum. As I have said in the past iPhones are for people that want a smartphone but aren't smart enough to use them. ~ from an open platform fanboy.
oneandroidnut said:
I forgot garbage bixby and the button!!!
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I too forgot this useless piece of redundant garbage (sort of points out how irrelevant Bixby is in a world of Google Now), although the button remapped to be a "back" button is handy.
Hopefully Samsung will pull their collective heads out of each other's butts and allow the button to be remapped to whatever the consumer wishes without a 3rd party app, instead of the usual "this is how you will use the device you payed for and rightfully own" attitude of large corporations.
-Alan said:
I read that the only reason they threw the sensor in the back was because they ran out of time. They wanted it in the screen but didn't have enough time time for production.
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They wanted it to be on the same spot as the home button under the screen, but Synaptics couldn't get it working good enough in time.
I'm also going to return mine. I'm kind of disappointed that the audio quality is subpar IMHO. Comparing it with my Nexus 6P, the sound level is lower than the 6P and honestly the 6P sounds more crisp. If I'm paying close to a grand for a device- S8+ with paid bundle, I would wish the manufacturer doesn't skimp on features like Samsung did with this phone. The mono speaker audio and then the issue with the tint... I tried adjusting in settings but there's still a slight red hue which is annoying to say the least. The fingerprint scanner... But I can get used to that. The Bixby button being disabled to use with other applications. It's just too many compromises for a device like this. Thinking I'll wait for the Note 8 or the next Pixel. Damn, I had such high hopes and really wanted to like this phone, but I can't justify spending $950 on something I'm not fully satisfied with.
xxsanioutlawxx said:
I'm also going to return mine. I'm kind of disappointed that the audio quality is subpar IMHO. Comparing it with my Nexus 6P, the sound level is lower than the 6P and honestly the 6P sounds more crisp.
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Well pointed out. One of the major gripes I think is the sound quality. I have tested a bunch of different HiFi headphones on my S8+ but it's nowhere close to the previous Mate 9 audio quality: to low the volume, mushy details in medium tonality, overall "not there". I am not sure where Pixel stands from the sound quality perspective but I would be eager to test it beforehand.
h4ck3r69 said:
you forgot a couple more things that makes the s8+ sweep the floor with it..
HDR screen certification.
IP68 water and dust proofing.
Wireless charging and Fast Wireless Charging
Micro SD card expansion.
Bluetooth 5.0
Always On Display.
Iris scanner security.
bye felicia
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I actually have sdcard in the op thank you and they still don't beat the pixel lol always on you know pixel has this too right?
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the_scotsman said:
They wanted it to be on the same spot as the home button under the screen, but Synaptics couldn't get it working good enough in time.
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Once again shows Samsung is becoming more like Apple. I got money on the s9 having it under screen on front pulling more people in to buy it instead of waiting a few more months and perfecting the s8!
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TheAnarchist1 said:
I also went back to my trusty Pixel XL. It is the first time I have ever voluntarily gone back to a device. The Pixel's performance can't be even distantly touched by the S8+. The optimization is worth its weight in gold alone. The S8+ is a beautiful and all around more polished piece of hardware that is severely hampered by what might be a disparity in GPU requirements v. Infinity display requirements and software that simply makes horrid use of the 2017 spec bump underlying it. I think Samsung went a bit too ambitious this time and left a few too many rough edges.
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There were two key features that kept me from getting the pixel. Wireless charging and dust and water resistant. In my line of work I need That! If pixel 2 has those, I'm sold.