There have been some peeps talking about data speed on their network, with this in mind I did a little test using www.speedtest.net
The website's big desktop flash is a little slow to load on our phones, but goes on to work perfectly.
I am on UK Vodafone and was standing in Leicester Square (Central London) 9PM ish when I performed the test.
I am using Doc V9 froyo (based on JPO)
I managed 4Mbps download (I think vodafone support 7 mbps at this loaction, possibly network contention was an issue)
I also managed 3mbps Upload speed, (I have no idea what vodafone support), which is good going as I have Virgin 50 mbps broadband at home and only get 1.7 mbps upload (as stipulated by my contract with them)
Why go to the website, "there is an app for that"
Not the best of results from that site over the years it can throw in some idiotic figures like 20MB ps
jje
there are several apps for speedtest, but imo speettest net is the most handy one
I generally get fairly accurate figures off them too,, and I find that my MBB is a lot faster than the BB we had from the fixed line,,
And I can take it anywhere with me,, Plus I'd never hit the 8mbp/s that Eircom said I'd get here,,
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this is my first week using tmobile in the US with the nexus one.
I am not able to get download speeds more than 800kbps. it does not matter how good the reception is.
I have tried in various places in north CA and in cleveland OH.
I think that such speeds are pretty bad for 3g. with at&t I used to 2-3mbps at times.
my friend with the verizon droid is seeing 1.5mbps-2.5mbps download speed .
what are other users on tmobile are seeing?
seems like tmobile is rate limiting the speeds or their network is just really bad.
How are u measuring the speed? I use the speed test app and it used to have a server close by in San Jose (65 mi) now I have to use a server in new Mexico and I'm in CA so that makes it seem slower too
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
clubtech said:
There are two apps in the market i test with: speedtest.net and extreme speed test.
I also checked with the laptop tethered to the phone. same pathetic speeds. i can hardly call it 3g comparing to the competitors.
Is it the phone or is it tmobiles network?
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i just got 2MB/s up and 400 kb/s down
WOW thats whats im talking about best ive ever seen
still waiting for those 6mb/s up and 1mb/s down (a.k.a. my cable high speed enternet at home)
I have never seen verizon that fast in my area, generally 500 kbits to 1mbits but I would say that you are getting the norm for tmo as mine have never reached 1 mbit but can go past 10 mbit on wifi.
BGR did a test a while back although not scientific agrees with the tests I have done in my area.
BGR Carrier Wars
Average Download Speed
1. Sprint: 1361kbs
2. AT&T: 933kbps
3. T-Mobile: 786kbps
4. Verizon: 701kbps
Average Upload Speed
1. Verizon: 322kbps
2. Sprint: 267kbps
3. AT&T: 180kbps
4. T-Mobile: 177kbps
Try this speed test....
I usually see 1000 - 1200 kbps but quite often see 1700 - 2000 kbps using the speedtest.net app in the android market. Something to remember, your 3G connection is initially UMTS and will switch to HSDPA on demand and when available. You may notice that your first test will show a ping of ~300ms and speeds of 500 - 700 kbps (UMTS), but if you hit "test again" immediately after the first test completes you should see a ping of about ~175ms and approximately double the speed (HSDPA). I've noticed that the default server (closest server according to the speedtest.net app) is usually slow and doesn't give me proper results. I've had very good luck using the Chicago server. Try using the Chicago server and run back-to-back tests, let us know if your results change.
I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
jmacdonald801 said:
I would agree T-Mobile's 3G is crap. Using a Rogers G1 on AT&T using speedtest.net app, I was seeing over 2Mbit down and over 800kbit up consistently.
T-Mobile's so called "7.2 Mbit upgrade" is a joke. Kind of like their coverage maps. I want to like them, but at least in my area, AT&T obliterates them. It's too big of a different for me. If an AT&T 3G compatible nexus one is released, I will have to get one. I could probably live with the slower speeds if the coverage wasn't so spotty.
Your move T-Immobile.
-James
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As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
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As a former T-Mo Wireless Engineer Intern, I can tell you that there is only a very very small roll out on 7.2 right now. They are testing the network before they enable more circuits. The original plan when I worked there was for a gradual 2 city per month rollout. Then slowly build the network to cope with added traffic. Its suppose to be a gradual process that will also involve using old equipment and expanding current 3g service. The high speed roll out was priority one, then is service expansion. Also contracts were involved last I saw that would expand coverage 2-fold, but negotiations for tower rights were falling through, so I don't know where thats going.
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Wow, talk about an honest answer. If I could just get coverage at my house, I could support team Magenta
-James
There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
Today is my first day on tmobile with the N1, I've been running on Edge ATT.
I was worried about switching over because my gf has had tmobile and doesn't have great service at our house.
I was afraid mine would be worse with the 3g issues the N1 has been having but it appears to be almost identical to hers.
in my living room we get 1-2 bars 3g and I see test speeds of 50-300 down and 950-1250 up.
I go to my office right above the living room and get 3 bars and 700-900 down speeds with 700-900 up speeds.
No stoked about it but I havnt had any signal swapping issues so I'm going to use it for GPS to test out now and see how it does. GPS and mapping even on edge with ATT was super fast so I have high hopes.
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There is an issue with 3g on the nexus that has been commented on a number of times, and that is the flapping of UMTS and HSDPA. (not to be confused with those flapping between 2g and 3g). With my G1 I was able to get speeds as high as 3Mbit, but I too have only seen 800Kbit max on my nexus and I believe its due to this constant flapping of 3g technologies.
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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So are you saying that if you pop in the SIM card from the N1 to the G1 in the same place you get 3Mbps vs. 800Kbps on the N1?
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Correct, I get full signal at my work (-63dBm 25asu). The G1 didn't skip around and stuck firmly to UMTS, and I was getting much better rates with it. My N1 however maxes out at no more than 800.
@jmcdonald what are you agreeing with LOL were talking about decent speeds then you say you agree with the low speeds??? LOL
Anyway I don't have 3g flopping problems neither did I on my g1
I am seeing speeds in most cases upward of 2.2 mbps... and am even averaging over 1mbps in upload speeds which is pretty good when I have full 3g reception in the Northern NJ area.
I get anywhere from 2.0 - 3.5Mbps down on average, and I have seen up to 4.5Mbps down on occasion. Up is always around 1 - 1.3Mbps.
However, I'm in Philadelphia, and we have HSPA+
Wow, I don't know how you guys are getting DL speeds upwards of 1.5mbps! Here in San Diego, the most I've seen anyone on ATT get is around 1.2mbps, and 1.1 on Sprint. Tmo is usually anywhere from 700-1mbps with some spikes over that now and then.
My G1 and N1 get the same speed range.
I'm in Maryland, just outside of D.C. I also just switched from AT&T to T-Mobile (yesterday actually). I'm also getting DL speeds of like 700-800 kbps. Hope it will someday be a little faster than that.
download - 137kbps
upload - 217kbps
From all the repots in this post it seems that tmob is just slower in some parts of the country and faster in others.
I hope they are planning on catching as 700-800kbps is a joke.
I wrote them an email asking why my data connections were so slow. Here was my reply:
Hi *****,
Thanks for your email to Virgin Mobile about your new phone.
We can only provide you with the information that's stated on the website when it comes to the technical information as we're not given any additional facts of the phone. After checking the website it doesn't state anything in regards to what the speeds should be when the phone is connected to the internet. If you'd like to take a look, click here.
There isn't any speed caps involved on your Virgin Mobile contract. Your HTC HD2 is able to connect at up to 3.5G, also known as HDSPA. You may find the connection slow if the tower you are connecting to is a 2G tower. You can identify what speed your connection is by looking at the top-right corner of the phone, a G icon would mean a slow connection. A 3 or a H should allow you to view web pages extremely quickly.
If you find that you're not getting on with the phone and you're unhappy with how it runs you've got 28 days from purchase to return the phone.
We hope that the above information provides useful.
If there's anything else we can help you with, just reply to this email. You can also give us a call on 789 from any Virgin Mobile phone – it's just 10p, no matter how long you talk for. Or, you can call us on 0845 6000 789 from a fixed line phone. These calls are charged at local rate.
Kind regards,
*****
Virgin Mobile
So I've got a phone capable of 'up to 3.5G' but they make no claim about what speeds I should be getting.
Bear this in mind if you're thinking of going Virgin too.
There is no network in the world that can gaurantee that you will be getting HSDPA speed 100% of the time.
Thats just common sense mate.
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There is no network in the world that can gaurantee that you will be getting HSDPA speed 100% of the time.
Thats just common sense mate.
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You are correct.
But surely there should be a minimum amount of service a customer should expect.
Imagine a water utility company saying they couldn't guarantee how much water would come through the pipes, but you should pay your bills anyway for 'up to' a certain amount of water per month. And if it falls to a cupful of water per day, then too bad, it just means your neighbours were using a lot of water, tough.
I'm not expecting full speed 3G. I'm expecting pages like this one to load faster than 1 minute later, and without constant drop outs when I'm sat still in a chair in central London with full bar reception and my phone displaying 3G at the top.
There are so many variables to consider, forum usage can slow down, bandwidth usage in your area, atmospheric conditions etc, I'm also on virgin and when browsing this site on opera via 3G speeds are plenty addequate, no more than 3 seconds between links.
Sometimes i will get dropouts too but they are very rare the 3G network is massively over stretched with the popularity of 3G dongles and people sat there torrenting and what not, this is why the FUP is in effect, the 3G network at the moment cannot sustain a free for all.
Having said this you should be expected to get a reasonable service, in the past when on Tmobile, same as Virgin as it happens I have complained when not having any service for 3 days and they have knocked a few quid off my bill.
I found this on another forum from a poster called DBMandrake:
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Having been with Virgin (with my iPhone) and then leaving them due to their poor data network I feel I should comment here.
Virgin can not (or will not) provide true HSDPA speeds on a mobile plan. Even if you see an HSDPA indicator on your phone, at best you will get around 350kbit/sec, which is standard 3G speed not HSDPA, as they throttle the bandwidth. You can get HSDPA speeds on a mobile broadband dongle from Virgin, but not on a data plan for a phone.
Before a dozen people jump in and say "but I get more than 350Kbit on Virgin", some older grandfathered plans may still have uncapped speeds, but currently selling ones do not.
I contacted technical support on more than one occasion regarding this and they were unable to do anything or offer any means of increasing the speeds above 350kbit, (even by paying more) and were unaware of what speeds I should be receiving in the first place, and had no idea whether 350kbit constituted an acceptable speed.
Secondly, Virgin put all web traffic through an image optimizer that dramatically compresses the images. While that may look acceptable on a 1 inch screen, and speed up page loads, it looks god awful on an iPhone screen, especially when zooming in, and there is NO way on a mobile phone to disable or bypass this image optimizer.
Both of these policies are in place because T-Mobile (whose network Virgin piggybacks on) also have these policies, except in T-Mobile's case you CAN pay more to get your speed uncapped (web 'n walk plus tethering addon) but you still cannot get the image optimizer disabled.
For these reasons (and others) I left Virgin and went to 3 and never looked back. No annoying image optimizer, and uncapped speeds which regularly exceed 1.2Mbit and go as high as 3Mbit in some locations, and far better 3G coverage to boot. No comparison if data is important to you as it is to me.
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http://www.talk3g.co.uk/showthread.php?p=36854
I can only assume it's a problem in certain areas, which by the nature of things there's not much that can be done, other than put more masts in, its purely down to location and network load.
But if the limit on Virgin/Tmobile is capped at 350kbit is that really a problem for general browsing, email and social networking? I certainly haven't encounted a lack of bandwidth since moving to virgin last week.
I would think the limit is there to keep the network usuable to all, as said before an unlimited uncapped network would surely grind to halt. If you read virgins T&C they state they cannot guarantee any speeds, to do so would be wrong due to the nature of the of the whole system.
I'll admit I'm being a bit hyper sensitve to the data rates. It's because I was really excited about the HD2 and really putting it through its paces. Which I can do, apart from mobile web, which is more of a gentle Sunday stroll after lunch... with my gran.
I appreciate that it's a bit of a phone mast lottery when it comes to data rates, but when you work in Zone 1 of London you'd expect the infrastructure to be better able to cope by now.
And I detest the whole 'up to' measurement on data when advertising plans. I understand why it's written such, but providers should have to provide a realistic picture of what the average punter can expect on a daily basis. Not what theoretical person could get while pigs are landing on the moon.
Virgin Speed
I have seen this in other forums.
I have gone to a speed test site (www.dslreports.com) and run from opera browser with both phones on my desk showing 4bars (H)
- on my HD with orange 1M to 1.2M
- on my HD2 with Virgin getting 200k - 250k.
Will be looking into this further with a view to returning HD2 under 28day return policy.
Is anyone having issues with their 3G speeds?
I'm sat next to my colleague (iPhone 3G) and I'm on the 20th floor of my building which is in the middle of London (City of London).
We both have the Bandwidth tester from Speedtest.net
We are both connecting to the same server (London. Hosted by Namesco)
We test @ the same time ... He is getting about 850kbps and I'm getting about 56kbps
This is quite embarrassing because I've been going on about my new fone like a geek all week .....
I HAVE noticed that when I choose the servers (within the Speedtest.net app) it seems to think that I am 130 miles away from London!
I switched on the options under 'Location' from within the phone's settings so that it could find out where it was. (I normally have this turned off to save juice) Still the same result tho
Does anyone know how I can improve this???
(FYI...Phone debranded & running R1FA016 but on UK Voda)
Are you both on Vodafone ? Sounds like your phone is on Edge and not 3G. I guess the capacity of the network must be a little stretched in the centre of the City.
I am typically getting 3500kbps on 3G with 'Speedtest' where I am !
I did the exact same test against a friends 3GS, both on vodafone (in syd australia) at the same time, in the same room, with speedtest.
I got close to 900kbps, and he got high 400's
I'm running 016 also.
I've seen a little over 2mbps max so far (depends on location of course)
He's on O2!
I thought that 50 metres up in the air in the centre of London would be the LAST place suffering from bad 3G coverage! LOL
Any ideas on the '130 miles distance to the London Server' part?
thanks!!!
Just switched to '3G only' and got 603k!!!!
I think you sussed it! I can live with that!!!!
Thanks all
I noticed that when I was i Covent Garden last week, crap bandwidth, I was trying to use maps but gave up waiting and just asked someone which way to go lol.
I would have thought central London would be good for speed but I guess its just really busy and over subscribed.
I've got mine on Vodafone, got 2.5Mbps the other day, just tried it again and got 1.8Mbps
I recently bought a TMOUS HD2 and I'm finding the 3G speed to be awful even though T-Mobile says there is 3G in my area. I currently get around 1.5Mbps on my Tilt2 on AT&T, the HD2 gets .2-.5Mbps. I bought the phone knowing I was going to be flashing the ROM so I didn't get a baseline before I flashed. I went with the Energy ROM in which the chef recommended radio 2.07.50. Unfortunately I didn't pay attention to which radio came stock. I have since flashed to 2.12.50.02 and get the same slow speed with either radio. My question is, is it possible that this is a radio problem, are there some settings in the ROM I can tweak, or am I just in an area with ****ty 3G?
what website and download size are you testing with? I get 1.5-3 mbps usually with t-mobile hd2 in san antonio, tx. (with hspa+ just right around the corner).
I am testing using internet explorer (the only thing it is good for, doesn't do server side rendering, so it is more accurate) and testing on mobilespeedtest.com and 1mb download size.
I tested mine 3 times in IE and once in opera 9.7, I got about 120k, 140k, 150k and 200k. Not in that order, just easier to remember it. My phone isn't even fast enough to watch youtube videos properly with. You'd think Vegas would have good reception...
have you called t-mobile to check for outages? When they are working on the hspa+ rollout in a city, data is getting jacked up.
http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#
says that vegas already has hspa+ so I would call t-mobile.
On a side note, I read that hspa+ will be capable of 42mpbs down sometime next year.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/rumor-mill-t-mobile-punching-hspa-42-mbps-2011/2010-07-07
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have you called t-mobile to check for outages? When they are working on the hspa+ rollout in a city, data is getting jacked up.
http://t-mobile-coverage.t-mobile.com/#
says that vegas already has hspa+ so I would call t-mobile.
On a side note, I read that hspa+ will be capable of 42mpbs down sometime next year.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/rumor-mill-t-mobile-punching-hspa-42-mbps-2011/2010-07-07
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That probably explains why I couldn't get my location in the weather tab or google maps, the towers were being upgraded. Still, says fast mobile web, which it's performing well under. I'm not even getting quality edge, even though it shows full 3g. Hmm, maybe tmobile is lying about their connection like apple was?
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what website and download size are you testing with? I get 1.5-3 mbps usually with t-mobile hd2 in san antonio, tx. (with hspa+ just right around the corner).
I am testing using internet explorer (the only thing it is good for, doesn't do server side rendering, so it is more accurate) and testing on mobilespeedtest.com and 1mb download size.
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I've tested with dslreports, mobilespeedtest and speakeasy (via tethering), all with the same results. Went to the T-Mobile store today and had the sales guy pull out a used HD2 for me to test the speed with, and he checked on his myTouch slide with the same results. Guess I'm just SOL.
t-mobile uk? you won't go above that without the £5 top up thing they offer, which enables hsdpa.
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t-mobile uk? you won't go above that without the £5 top up thing they offer, which enables hsdpa.
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OP is in the US.
Can someone give me some of thier speed test results for the virgin Mobile network. I currently get 2 mb/s download and 1.6 upload with tmobile, But I will be ditching my tmobile plan and selling my Vibrant. Tmo has me pissed off.
I will be buying the intercept and i will also be tehtering with it. Does the Mobile AP work on the froyo update for this phone?
lol 65 views and no one can answer?
My father uses samsung intercept with virgin mobile. You can take a long piss in the bathroom before google.com loads on that phone. The phone is allright but their network is just horrible. Im looking at below .5 download slash upload speeds
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Virgin Mobile UK if that's who you mean are a Virtual Network using TMobiles network .
jje
Obviously depends on location, but here are some I took while at home and out and about around central Florida:
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Obviously depends on location, but here are some I took while at home and out and about around central Florida:
No linking allowed yet, pretty stupid.. Here:
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I live in Winter Garden FL and get about 600k down and 120 up.
Well depending on the location and time of the day, i get download speeds between 250kbps to 1100 kbps and uploads between 150 to 450kbps.
Way better than t-mobiles piss ass speeds of 20kbps inside the house and work. If you need 3g speeds u need to go stand outside the building..
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the thing to remember when asking about dl and ul speeds on the intercept is also it was cheated in many departments one of those being radio. it's a EVDO rev. 0 not the newer, faster EVDO rev. A radio. This also limits the speeds you'll get compared to your vibrant. As always your mileage will vary based on signal strength as well
Roughly Los Angeles area here (San Fernando Valley to be more precise) and I get anywhere from 600-1400 down and about a consistent 120 up.
here close to dallas on my virgin mobile.. im getting 1.2 d and 400 up
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I live in Winter Garden FL and get about 600k down and 120 up.
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Keep in mind my screenshots are for KB/s and not kbps.