Hi all,
First, I am new to this Android thing and I don't know where else to post a such question.
But anyway, now on to my question.
I understand that rooting my device may brake the warenty, but if there is some other solution to the below problem, that would be great!
I am visually impaired and therefor me and others who are in the same situation rely on screen reading software, such as Spiel and Talkback that already exists in the market and they can be activated in the accessibility preferences of the phone after they have been installed.
In order for them to work, some text-to-speech engine has to be installed and the voice data for that as well, like Espeak.
The phones we have to use are the ones with physical qwerty keyboards and the ones that have physical arrow keys or a trackball. But now to my question.
Each time I have to do a factory reset of my Samsung Galaxy 5510 I must get someone sighted help me set up my Google account and then I can login to the market and install Spiel/Talkback and with some assistance enable the accessibility preferences.
This is really anoying. SO my question is, would it be possible to integrate these programs into some rom or maybe backup the phone so that I can restore it from a PC or maybe with some application that can be launched from the phone and then I select the image file, like a backup program and then all my settings are back.
I really apologize if this is the wrong forum, but any help is really apreciated since I know that several others are facing the same problem.
What do you think?
Could this be something to look at?
may I ask why you are doing a factory reset so often?
or do you just mean you upgrade to a new rom?
anyway, it should be really easy to have these apps installed by default in any rom. I doubt they would work in the setup procedure but you could skip the setup and then add your accounts later, when the text to speech apps are running.
No, I am not upgrading the ROM and I am not doing a hard reset that often, BUT, if i would have to do that it would be great if the screen reader service, such as Spiel could be launched by default and I don't know if this phone can be upgraded.
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Hi guys,
Been searching around but can't find answers, please if you know this question has been asked, just point me in the right direction.
I have a Vodafone Magic (yeah, yeah, I know, stupid right? Fancy wanting an android phone that the supplier will never upgrade past 1.6) But I didn't have that knowledge at the time. While I'm not happy with the phone generally, I have a more specific question.
I have always been happy enough using the stock broswer, although I have tried others too. But Just yesterday a problem turned up, that even using alternate browsers does not help with. When I go onto google site, and into preferences (settings) for google, which goes basically to the same page regardless of browser, I have always been able to save my prefernces, Ie safe search (other than moderate), save location, save searches etc. But yesterday, and since, every time I change a setting, save and then go back into settings, nothing I changed has altered.
Basically rambling, but say I change safe search to strict, press save, goes back to google page, go back into settings, and sure enough safe search is back to moderate.
This used to happen only when I cleared cache.
What the hell have I done to the phone to cause this, it's really quite irritating.
I have turned phone off and back on. I haven't done a factory reset yet, as hoping there is a solution that doesn't invole reinstalling all apps etc. I haven't done a soft reset, because I don't know if one exists.
Thanks in advance,
Steve
"have a Vodafone Magic is stupid right?" I don't think so haha
Has anyone attempted to lock down the Tab? Lock down in terms of limiting application downloads, systems changes etc. I am looking to roll the Tab out to my sales department but I wouldn't trust these guys with potato gun much less this thing. However, the boom to business appears very significant with its addition. I have every practical application that they could need and a bit more on my test model. The problem I think I'll find is when they attempt to add applications to the Tab and possibly brick the thing. Am I hoping for too much or does this seem sensible? Thanks for the help, cheers.
Wouldn't it simply be a case of using adb to rename Vending.apk so the Market is inaccessable (as well as renaming the Samsung Apps application if applicable)? It would be possible to undo it, but it would be very difficult for a novice android user.
You can use "app lock" to put a password on the apps you don't want them to use and you can lock the installer and market with a password.
You don't have to worry about bricking a device from installing an app on the market though, it would take alot more than that to brick the device.
KG4's advice is good, but that would still allow them to transfer items to the SD card and install if they wanted to. Best bet would be to password the installer.
Thanks for the help guys. The next hard part is training the sales department on how to use the thing. It shouldn't be that bad. 'Shouldn't' is the key word here.
Cheers!
Hi all,
I am part of an IT Client team and we are trying to prep for the deployment of the GS4. The S3 is our current standard and was received pretty well, but some of the features are overwhelming to our sales force. Is there any way that we can disable some of these features perhaps even automatically via ADB and a USB cable?
Also, we are wanting to have our company app preinstalled. Currently it resides in the marketplace but apparently some of our sales force don't understand the Play Store and that they actually have to go find the app and install it. Is there a way to automatically sideload our app? We were also discussing a launcher like launcherpro with an xml file included that contains default locations for icons, data, etc.
Has anyone tried this before? Please advise with ideas/suggestions. We don't want to flash a ROM generated by our company because that would require too much overhead on our part to manage because thousands of phones need to me maintained. We also don't want to root the NatureUI/Touchwiz stock rom that comes with the S4.
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Hi all,
I am part of an IT Client team and we are trying to prep for the deployment of the GS4. The S3 is our current standard and was received pretty well, but some of the features are overwhelming to our sales force. Is there any way that we can disable some of these features perhaps even automatically via ADB and a USB cable?
Also, we are wanting to have our company app preinstalled. Currently it resides in the marketplace but apparently some of our sales force don't understand the Play Store and that they actually have to go find the app and install it. Is there a way to automatically sideload our app? We were also discussing a launcher like launcherpro with an xml file included that contains default locations for icons, data, etc.
Has anyone tried this before? Please advise with ideas/suggestions. We don't want to flash a ROM generated by our company because that would require too much overhead on our part to manage because thousands of phones need to me maintained. We also don't want to root the NatureUI/Touchwiz stock rom that comes with the S4.
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I'm not quite sure about disabling features on the stock ROM. I know there's an Easy mode that can be used for first time smartphone owners. As far as preloading your company app, you can write a script to do so. However, that requires you to manually enable developer mode and USB debugging on every single phone. I'm not sure how practical this is, considering you have so many phones. A better way might be to send a mass text message or email to each of the phones with the play store link to the app. Once again, considering the employees might be unfamiliar with the phone, a text would probably be the simple way to go. I would use side-loading as a way of installing your app in the event that someone had an issue with the text. I believe you'd run into the same issues with preinstalling LauncherPro and associated xml files. It doesn't seem there's a way you can properly deploy what you need to w/o going hands on on all units.
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Depending on what functionality you would like to disable, you can go to the App Manager heading in the Settings menu, and disable system apps you don't use. In terms of disabling parts of functionality in certain system apps, that probably wouldn't be possible on stock unrooted devices.
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apparently some of our sales force don't understand the Play Store
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I'm not sure how to solve your problem. I was going to say once you are willing to ADB and USB debug you might as well cook up the ROM the way you want it and blast it on with Odin.
However, one thing to be concerned about is the OTA software updates that you probably want your users to be able to receive. If you mod the stock software (either with ADB or a modded ROM) in such a way to make the phone status 'Custom' your users won't be able to get updates and bug fixes from Samsung.
I would just try to hold their hand through getting the app installed (ie. email them a link to it when they get a phone so all they have to do is tap the link and hit install) and leave the rest of the phone alone.
I rooted my GS5 recently and nothing went wrong but when I uninstalled a root app the short-cuts on my keyboard disappeared. By that I mean that my keys on my keyboard normally had short-cuts on them that could be activated by holding the key for 1 second but ever since I uninstalled the root app they disappeared and now I have to go to the other tab on the keyboard to use my short-cuts. Its not a huge deal but its something I got used to and now that its gone it feels weird not having the option. Btw the app I deleted was the one I had to install to get Xblast Tools and Wanam but I cant remember the name of the app. Any help would be appreciated
Restore your backup to fix everything with two or three clicks.
If you aren't making backups, now you know why you should start doing so. Root is very useful but also gives you the power to cause greater damage. You should for instance never delete an app, just rename it so that you can revert changes if you need to.
I have no idea what app you are alluding to. Perhaps someone else will recognize it. Or you could break down and do a search. No doubt if you try a handful of different keywords you would quickly identify the app that you want. It's a good habit to always search before posting a question anyway. Often it gives you an immediate answer. And at the least enables you to pose better informed questions.
HTH
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I did a factory reset before submitting my device to Samsung repair. But before doing it, to not have any trace of my online/offline data after reset I had to take care of ‘Factory Reset Protection’ (FRP) so that it won't ask to enter my email after reset. I removed the device security locks including fingerprints and also any Google account associated as said by 99% articles over internet (at least in my 30 mins of read thru of Google searches specifically for Samsung & also generally for android). Also had checked necessary options for all of my datas to be synced to Google. But in order to reinforce my knowledge about FRP and how it’s getting triggered I went thru some YouTube videos and articles specifically for Samsung & also generally for android prior to reset. And finally everything was good to go and ready for repair
Got my device after repair and did a reset again for Google to ask to restore my apps from previous backup of the same device. But it didn’t as you can see from the pic attached.
So what could be the reason you ask. When I removed the Google account (primary) for reset process, all the ‘App datas’ (thankfully not my contacts and other stuffs) were cleared from Google servers. Simply to say, the ‘Remove account’ option will tell Google that this device is no longer associated with this account and to delete all Android related datas associated and there is no way you can get this back.
So I don’t know whom to blame. The hundred’s of article over Internet about FRP (example: http://www.androidcentral.com/factory-reset-protection-what-you-need-know )
OR Samsung for not giving any information anywhere in internet or even in the Software (as warnings) [Their only website related to FRP is still down here in my country at least]. OR Google? For not giving any clear information regarding this action.
Anyway there is no use in crying over spilt milk. All I have to do now is manually install all my 83 apps one by one that were previously installed and who knows whether their respective datas can still be synced. There were even circumstances which most of us should have gone thru when the Google not showing yesterday app restore list but 1 week ago in the setup process.
Things like this can very well frustrate anyone if they are heaving depending on cloud. This is just one of the many little things(software, H/W dependent) in Android that may frustrate a user very much. NO WONDER WHY PEOPLE MOVE TO iOS. Because over customizability and all there are some stuffs that matters the most and iOS still excels in that. We geeks know that but it’s the freedom and exploration that makes us forget all those important stuffs.
For those of you gonna say “YOU SHOULD HAVE USED SMART SWITCH, ADB BACKUP, TITANIUM BACKUP OR SOMETHING ELSE” -- when something is meant to work it should work. I even had bad experiences with Titanium backup, could be device specific but whatever it is.
Welcoming all POSITIVE and NEGATIVE comments. LOL.
Running stock TouchWiz with the April patch. Tried a reset without removing Google account and it didn't ask for the mail ID to be entered for verification during setup process. So basically something have changed recently on how FRP works and whatever I've wriiten is what you have to take care of. regarding backup and all. Please share this thread with you friends. .
Will appreciate a thanks.
Thanks for sharing. Seems like a good warning for all of us.
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Sorry to hear of your difficulties. My own frustrations have been building with Android as well. It is ridiculous how much we have to eff around with hidden settings and tweaks to get decent battery life. I am keeping an eye on the iPhone 7 to be honest.
Though apple ecosystem has its own share of frustrations.
Thanks for the info. I too had experience of some backup apps not working as they intended to be. Even Titanium Backup had given me tension when new android version comes or sometimes for no reason. But my go to solution(even without root I believe) is always have been Tasker+AutoInput combo. When nothing works out I just program them both to install apps from PlayStore based on the app list I manually backed up with another app. That's it. Don't know whether that will cause any bad effect on device hardware. Does it?
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Sorry to hear of your difficulties. My own frustrations have been building with Android as well. It is ridiculous how much we have to eff around with hidden settings and tweaks to get decent battery life. I am keeping an eye on the iPhone 7 to be honest.
Though apple ecosystem has its own share of frustrations.
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I agree as i mentioned in OP. Sad to see Snapdragon 820 users struggle with battery life by removing un-wanted system packages. This even exists to an extent in my unlocked DUOS version. Google gotta have more control over Android. Hope with Android N this is not just gonna be with updates but also else where. Come on Google it's 2016.
OH gosh. This is an important piece of information. Somebody should link to this info by posting an article in xda-developer.com . Is there any way to reuquest?
Thanks BTW for a warning
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.Simply to say, the ‘Remove account’ option will tell Google that this device is no longer associated with this account and to delete all Android related datas associated and there is no way you can get this back
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1) Disable Internet connectivity (wifi, data)
2) Remove accounts, then
3) Factory reset
Google doesn't know that about the removal so app data is still in your account, yet the device no longer has any link to the Google account so it's safe against FRP.
That said, with multi devices (and household members sharing 1 common account as the base account), I don't back app data to Google at all. TiBu has its quirks but I've yet to lose anything with it. On the contrary, I probably have too much back up (who needs Gingerbread apps back ups??? yeah, I still have them LOL).
lost_ said:
1) Disable Internet connectivity (wifi, data)
2) Remove accounts, then
3) Factory reset
Google doesn't know that about the removal so app data is still in your account, yet the device no longer has any link to the Google account so it's safe against FRP.
That said, with multi devices (and household members sharing 1 common account as the base account), I don't back app data to Google at all. TiBu has its quirks but I've yet to lose anything with it. On the contrary, I probably have too much back up (who needs Gingerbread apps back ups??? yeah, I still have them LOL).
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That's the only way it seems for hard reset. But as I mentioned in my OP there is no need of removing the Google account for soft reset. FRP won't be triggered.