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Touch screen w/o touching?

I've noticed that on my NS, I don't have to actually touch the screen to tap keys. I can keep my finger slightly hovering over the glass and it still recognizes my input. Sometimes it actually causes me to mistype at a higher rate than other phones.
Are you guys seeing this too?
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Glad to see I'm not the only one who's experienced this....I thought I was going crazy. It's sporadic at best, but when it happens it is annoying. I can't say for sure what causes it, but I'd love to hear other people's opinions.

I've been getting this as well.

same here. Guess they have the capacitance set a bit too high.....

yup, me too. infact. my home button gets phatom long pressed and the light is off on it...have to power it off/ turn the screen off and on muliple times. that insanity has occured about 4 times thought.

Thanks for the replies. I went back into Best Buy and tried their demo phone. So either it's supposed to be this way or they messed up a whole batch of phones. I wish I could remember whether the vibrant did this or not, but it's not standing out.

Sometimes touchscreen nonresponsive too. This is not relating to partial outer border touching either.
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kjy112 said:
Sometimes touchscreen nonresponsive too. This is not relating to partial outer border touching either.
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I believe Engadget did mention did this during their review @ http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/10/nexus-s-review/.
Their exact quote: "One other thing of note -- we noticed a few missed or latent presses on the touchscreen which occasionally led to stuttery behavior or an opened item that we didn't mean to tap. It's hard to say if this was a software or hardware issue (and we know that sometimes Android devices can be particularly finicky when syncing). It wasn't a deal-breaker by any means, but we saw the issue rear its head a handful of times, and felt it was worth mentioning."

it's nothing ,, the Samsung galaxy S does that too D:

that happens due to the static on your finger.

Hi
I opened a thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879872) because I definitely have a problem on the back capacitive button, just wondering how many people are affected?
In fact I have seen this in four devices now, it looks that there is a batch of defective Nexus S phones out there affected by this problem?

It's normal. My Nexus One is like that too. It's magic.

So, it is normal to have un-responsive back button after some times?
Damn ... this is bad. I hope I can cope with it. I really hate hardware problem.
And still could not understand why Google cannot fix it.
Last time from HTC ...
And now from Samsung ...
*Still waiting Nexus S from UK*
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It's normal. My Nexus One is like that too. It's magic.
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gogol said:
So, it is normal to have un-responsive back button after some times?
Damn ... this is bad. I hope I can cope with it. I really hate hardware problem.
And still could not understand why Google cannot fix it.
Last time from HTC ...
And now from Samsung ...
*Still waiting Nexus S from UK*
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There's a thread for the back button, that's a real issue. Some people have the Back button issue, some the Home button issue. Both of those buttons are on the outer edge of the phone, so something may be messed up when the phone was being assembled.

KF Touchscreen Sensitivity Issues

Hello everyone,
I have been playing with my Kindle Fire, since I got it, and I am about ready to chuck it out the window, or just call Amazon for a new one, but I first wanted to see if you guys had any suggestions. My touchscreen is oversensitive. WAY oversensitive. Oversensitive to the point that if I have to type anything into the keybaord, I will be three letters in, the keyboard will close, and I will have to start over. So sensitive/messed up that when scrolling an article in landscape mode, using only my left hand to scroll, random links will click on the right side of the page. The opposite happens if I do it with my right hand. I like the device, and look forward to rooting it, and ICS goodness eventually, but I wanted to know I have a dud and need to return it, or if there is some hidden setting somewhere or what. I am open to trying anything. Side note: I also own a thunderbolt, and find its touchscreen too sensitive, but nowhere NEAR the KF. I am making sure to make deliberate presses and swypes, and trying to make sure no extraneous part of my hand interferes at all. (sometimes even using one hand to poke at the keyboard with the device sitting on the table will still produce the problems.)
Thanks for the help!
Brock

Hey Brock!
I've noticed that my screen is a little more sensitive than my epic 4g but not to the extreme you are talking about.
Perhaps your screen is bugged or something try calling amazon and see what they say.
Also as a side note try rubbing your hands over the screen smudge it up pretty good. Does that make a difference? I know it will look ugly but maybe there was a film or something on the screen. Just to test
*forgive any grammar or spelling mistakes I injured my right hand and it is hard to type with bandages *

Hi
I have a bunch of problems too. Mine is sensitive, and its sometimes a problem not overscroll, but yours seem to be extreme.
As a way out, if you have time drop by a BestB** and try it there, if yours is the same, not to much left to do....

I've been using mine all day and I don't even need to touch the screen. If I get my finger really close to the screen it reads as a touch. I'd say that's a tad too sensitive.
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johnsmith970 said:
I've been using mine all day and I don't even need to touch the screen. If I get my finger really close to the screen it reads as a touch. I'd say that's a tad too sensitive.
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They are all like that. Its because the touch screen is capacitive. My Screen at work does that.

I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding the touchscreen not sensitive enough....
The Dreamer

TheDreamer68 said:
I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding the touchscreen not sensitive enough....
The Dreamer
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Same here. I have to sometimes tap things a couple of times to register...

TheDreamer68 said:
I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding the touchscreen not sensitive enough....
The Dreamer
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Same here, I feel like I have to push the screen really hard to get it to register. I hit the screen lightly and it does not register my touch. I'm used to my EVO 4g, maybe it is just a lot more sensitive than the fire.

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I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding the touchscreen not sensitive enough....
The Dreamer
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Same problem here.

TheDreamer68 said:
I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding the touchscreen not sensitive enough....
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Same here, but it's not as simple as it not registering the touch. Most times the button will animate to show I've touched it but nothing happens. It happens most often with the back button, but happens in the browser and some other apps occasionally. I've had some luck with slower more deliberate taps, but it seems like a software bug to me.
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I was using my mom's so I could teach her how to use it, and see if I wanted one. Her was also not sensitive enough many times. It wasn't just that I am used to my Droid 2 because my mom who never used a touch screen before had the same issues. Sometimes it would take 3 or 4 taps to make it work. I just thought it was a bug that would be fixed. It was minor. I ordered my one, so on Tuesday I will see how mine is.
OP I say contact tech support immediately.

My screen is fine, the only problem I'm having is the menu gets pressed, it shows that it was pressed but nothing happens
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The two kindle fires I've used have the same touchscreen issue: there is a jerk (along the longest direction of the screen) on touch down. Once the finger is down the reported position is fairly stable, but the initial touch down needs to be smoothed out (or the first few samples from the touch screen should be thrown out).
This causes most of the issues I've seen on mine, where pressing buttons is either inaccurate or they go down and come up without activating (because the touchscreen reported a touch down inside the button and then jerked out of the button area and reported a touch up).
I've spent way too much time on touchscreen drivers (way too much!) and this is a fairly common electrical issue, and the software workaround is fairly straightforward to implement in the kernel. It's surprising that Amazon shipped the device like this (as well as various SGX drivers issues on some apps), especially as every review mentioned it as an issue!
Anyway, once we can build and flash kernels reliably I'm sure we can fix most of the touchscreen issues.

My kindle too !!!
Because of this, I'm getting very stressed ㅠㅠ
It's a matter of the touch panel... would be fixed by software?
If this is not possible... Then I'll be selling the Kindle

I downloaded an app called ILITEK Touch Utility which appears to have made my touchscreen work better. It is in the Google Market.

TheDreamer68 said:
I'm having the opposite problem...I'm finding the touchscreen not sensitive enough....
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Exactly x100
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krelvinaz said:
I downloaded an app called ILITEK Touch Utility which appears to have made my touchscreen work better. It is in the Google Market.
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I'll have to try that out, would be nice to tweak it some Thanks!

mine is not too sensitive, sometimes i have to press multiple times for it to register

Bumping this thread, because this issue is annoying the hell out of me. Those having the touchscreen not being sensitive enough, it's the same issue as those finding it too sensitive. The problem in reality is that it's ridiculously sensitive, and as your finger presses down on the screen, it's sometimes reading that as an attempt to swipe/scroll rather than a tap/press, which is why you see things light up still, but not launch.
This is frustrating me more and more as time goes on. I've tried this, which I can tell adjusts some of these settings but doesn't really make much difference for the problem. I've also tried this, which didn't help any after calibration.
Some people have speculated (or confirmed, for all I know) that this can be adjusted via the kernel. Does anybody know of anything that might help with this? It's so sensitive it's making me want to avoid the damned thing. I'm about ready to restore the stock ROM and give it to my sister as an early Christmas present.

The awesomeness that is Hashcode is working on 3.0 kernel over in the dev section. The kernel is still a work in progress and has come a long way. At the end he is apparantly going to update the touchscreen driver. I hope that will fix any said issues.
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Capacitive buttons not responding when phone not held in hand?

Anyone has this problem? For example if I lay the phone down on my bed, I won't be able to hit the back button. The entire touchscreen responds done though...
Anyone?
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Yep.............

"You're holding it wrong."

That sounds very strange.
Well, I'd hate to say it, but are you "pressing them wrong"?
What I mean is, we all know the buttons are a little tricky, how the touch sensitive part is near the top of the button. Could it be you've trained yourself to easily press them the correct way while holding, but when it is lying down you end up pressing it lower? Due to the angle of your finger when you touch it?
I've never had any trouble when the phone was laying down, and just tried it out again right now. I do have to touch them in the exact same spot (shifted a bit higher) as when holding it.

When I first got my N1 I noticed the same. Just hit it a bit higher
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Yea I tried out suggestions by you guys, hitting higher did help!
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Odd, I always had this problem, never considered it much of a problem. Mainly cause I hold it 99% of the time, but I did find that if I touch it lower, as in touch the bezel at the same time as I touch the button, no problem.
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Clarkster said:
That sounds very strange.
Well, I'd hate to say it, but are you "pressing them wrong"?
What I mean is, we all know the buttons are a little tricky, how the touch sensitive part is near the top of the button. Could it be you've trained yourself to easily press them the correct way while holding, but when it is lying down you end up pressing it lower? Due to the angle of your finger when you touch it?
I've never had any trouble when the phone was laying down, and just tried it out again right now. I do have to touch them in the exact same spot (shifted a bit higher) as when holding it.
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This! I thought the same thing as the OP when i first got mine, but you get used to it.

I've also experienced this... but as the others would say just hit higher or you'll get used to it.
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Having vibrate on for button press helps a lot because of the issue with having to hit the buttons higher.

It does get a little annoying but small price for such a good phone really I'm loving it regardless. It does seem like a strange thing though I've not come across it on some of the other android phones I've had before.

Had never happened for me. Its the same if i hold it in hand or not.

If only HTC would place that power button on the side...

... they would have made way, way more profit
No seriously, HTC One, fantastic device, everything is amazing, but again that power button on the top. Why? :crying: :crying: :crying:
I'm seriously having a first world crisis here.

Most of the custom Roms here allow for the volume buttons to wake up the phone. It's saving my finger stretching so much.

MillyMoo106 said:
Most of the custom Roms here allow for the volume buttons to wake up the phone. It's saving my finger stretching so much.
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Holy crap, seriously? So a simple button remap should work? Anyone any idea how the button map files should be modified to make this work.. (Long time out of the low level customization business )

I like the button placement on the top left. Last year on the One X is was on the right side... That was a bit hard to reach.
They included the IR Blaster in the Power Button. That could be a reason why its on the top.

shox22 said:
I like the button placement on the top left. Last year on the One X is was on the right side... That was a bit hard to reach.
They included the IR Blaster in the Power Button. That could be a reason why its on the top.
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Ah, the HTC One X had the button placed on the side! Revolutionary for HTC. So they saw their profit drop and thought.... hey.. ****, you know what, it must have been that button. Stop the press! The button needs to go back to the top like we always did LoL

appelflap said:
... they would have made way, way more profit
No seriously, HTC One, fantastic device, everything is amazing, but again that power button on the top. Why? :crying: :crying: :crying:
I'm seriously having a first world crisis here.
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The home button is also an IR blaster so it couldn't be on the side.

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The home button is also an IR blaster so it couldn't be on the side.
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It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.

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It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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Seriously? I've been wishing they'd do this for years. It's a universal (programmable) remote too so I can do my TV, Stereo (which I actually use a lot) and Roku box. It's a great feature.
Plus, if I'm sitting down, especially on a couch, I usually have already pulled my phone out of my pocket.

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It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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A little reading goes a long way... With the tv app running the screen auto wakes on movement.
To the op. There is already a thread about this. We really needed another one. :banghead:
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I wonder if the issue is really just hypothetical, as in the people who object don't have their One yet. I guess I'm lucky cause I had a Nokia and an iPhone before this so I've had the button on the top for several years. I'm concerned too about how tall the phone is but I have a case already and it isn't a problem to shift the phone slightly to get my finger up there (I have small hands).
That, the battery and the MicroSD card are non issues for me, but then I might be in the minority too. I've never been more excited to own or impressed with the design of a phone. In fact it's a little embarrassing how hard it is to wait two weeks.

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Ah, the HTC One X had the button placed on the side! Revolutionary for HTC. So they saw their profit drop and thought.... hey.. ****, you know what, it must have been that button. Stop the press! The button needs to go back to the top like we always did LoL
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It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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Actually, top left is better for right-handers because it allows you to fully stretch your finger, rather than cramping it in an awkward position if it's on the top right. But personally, if there was no IR Blaster, I would prefer it on the right side of the phone because it's so much easier and more natural to hit it with your thumb, with the way you hold a phone.

anit77 said:
A little reading goes a long way... With the tv app running the screen auto wakes on movement.
To the op. There is already a thread about this. We really needed another one. :banghead:
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We need a lot of these threads. All over the internet, these threads. Can't have enough of them.

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It was still on the top in the one x, just the right side of the top compared to the left now. (it's always been top right iirc for htc and iphones) minus maybe small exception. I think right top is better for right handers... But as htc knows... Most people are left handed... /sarcasm this must be why they chose the left side now.
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Oh.. they didn't. Nevertheless, always a major reason why I didn't want a HTC.
Anyway, let's do some button remap magic .. yay.

Product F(RED) said:
Actually, top left is better for right-handers because it allows you to fully stretch your finger, rather than cramping it in an awkward position if it's on the top right. But personally, if there was no IR Blaster, I would prefer it on the right side of the phone because it's so much easier and more natural to hit it with your thumb, with the way you hold a phone.
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Yeah, that depends I guess on individual. Having owned htc phones and an ipod, and being right handed I prefer it be on the right side... So probably more about hand size. I've tried to hit the top left of my current phone as if it was the htc one to see the comfort... Doesn't work for me
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Oh crap, no S-OFF yet, so no way to set a WAKE parameter for the volume buttons yet.
Is there a known workaround yet for enabling the volume buttons to wake up the device (don't want to flash a rom yet)?

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Oh crap, no S-OFF yet, so no way to set a WAKE parameter for the volume buttons yet.
Is there a known workaround yet for enabling the volume buttons to wake up the device (don't want to flash a rom yet)?
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You dont need soff for button remap

I have galaxy tab 2 , always hitting power button when trying to hit volume up , most stupid thing ever , power button should be on top
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shox22 said:
You dont need soff for button remap
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Really? Okay great... Pretty long time ago that I have played with HTC devices. But anyway, this is the problem. I have root, can modify files in the system directory. But all those changes are undone when rebooting the devices, i.e. the changes are not permanent. Because the keymap files are loaded when booting the device there's really no way to change anything.
Anyone? Non permanent write access ?

Product F(RED) said:
It could be, but you'd have a landscape remote. Power button placement should take precedence over a gimmicky feature most people won't use. I don't speak for everyone, but even as a geeky person, I'd rather reach for the remote than pull my phone out of my pocket, unlock it, and launch a remote control app to do the same thing.
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That's exactly what I thought but when I actually tried it I got the coolest feeling ever it's gimmicky but no joke it's funnier than most apps I've ever used. Either that or I am easily amused plus I have my phone out when I watch tv anyway so it comes in quite handy
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Sunk in home button, normal?

Picked up my 32 GS4 yesterday and now I am noticing that the home button is sunk in. It's completely flush with the screen. Doesn't stick out at all. It works completely fine, but makes a really audible clicking noise. Obviously Samsung doesn't manufacture these all the same. I am worried if it will get worse in time. A google search brought many results with the GS3's home button. Apparently some think its normal, some don't. I am really fussy when it comes to QC on flagship phones.
Just wondering if anyone else has a sunk in home button?

its normal.

I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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Yup. Flush. You're good.
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It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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jetlitheone said:
It's not normal. My s4 didn't have that and one of them did. It should be slightly raised.
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Yeah. I have noticed a couple Note 2's home buttons being flat, while others were slightly raised. I don't know if its considered not normal, as it functions just fine.
I do not like the loud audible click the button makes. I might try to swap it towards the end of my 14 days.
EDIT: Ok, looking at it really closely, its not completely flat. Maybe a tad lower than the other phones. I don't know, I would hate to return a phone because I'm too OCD.

Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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The home button functions perfectly fine. Since it doesn't stick out, the tactile feedback isn't that great. May take it to AT&T this week. Haven't decided. I am actually more concerned about my power button. Seems very hard to push and mushy, like its not sticking out as much as it should.

My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?

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Mine is slightly raised. Does it function properly? Have good tactile feedback? If so, I would say it's all good.
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My home button is just BARELY above the rest of the phone, but it feels very responsive and a bit 'clicky'. While it's not raised so much, it at least feels really solid.
However my unlock button seems like it's really sunken in and almost hard to press at times, does anyone else have one like that as well?
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Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.

MattMJB0188 said:
Same exact issue here with the power button. The home button I can live it, but the power button should be clicky and not feel so mushed.
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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.

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Thank god, at least I'm not the only one. This is my second s4, I just brought back my first one from HUGE battery issues. Would lose 15-20% while idle while I was asleep.
Already noticed a huge difference with my new one, except now I've noticed the mushed in unlock button. It's functional, it just feels like it has the possibility of eventually getting stuck somehow...Maybe I'm just being overly attentive and sensitive with the new one.
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Then exchange it. When they bring your new phone out thoroughly examine it first.

I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.

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I'm very tempted, but at the same time , I don't wanna be THAT GUY who keeps bringing back phones because one very tiny detail is slightly off-putting of their OCD.
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Yeah I know what you mean. And I've been that guy many times. Its just when signing a 2yr contract and paying $200+ dollars, one has to be persistent. They all hate me at my local AT&T store but I pay their paychecks.

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wttisme said:
I looked at 3 S4s before I picked one that I was satisfied with before I left the store. Some people don't care, but when paying this much for a phone I feel like it should be perfect.
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And AT&T kept bringing out S4's and let you have your pick? Must have been nice. My local AT&T store would never do that.

Neither would mine. Best Buy MIGHT, but it's not very nice to make them keep opening boxes of new products. Not sure if they can still sell them as such afterward.
The unlock button does seem more sunken than it should be. Might swing by the ATT store in a day or two just to check out their display...If it's that bad, i'll bring it back to best buy and see if they're willing to do another exchange . I only have 4 days left on my 15 day window unfortunately.

Did you put a screen protector

DAMN! I wish I didint see this thread because my OCD just kicked in...
Mine is raised about 1mm up. On my note II its about 2mm.
It feels normal to me...
With the Invisheild HD its flush with that....

artvandalay22222 said:
I don't have one yet, but I just wanted to say that I really wish they would have used a capacitive button instead. I work construction, and dust/sand etc. destroys the physical buttons. Also will miss the search button that I have on gs2 I like pressing and holding it for voice search
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I'm also coming from a gs2, and while the lack of a capacitive home button and search button is a bit weird, if you long press the menu button it pulls up search. I know it isn't exactly what you want, but it's close.
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