I have a weird issue. I took a picture of a car from a bit of a distance (about 20metres).
When I look at it from the camera app and zoom in, it's clear enough that you can read the number plate (license plate for you Americans), but if I zoom the same using the gallery app, it is blurry and you cannot make out the characters.
I don't know why the gallery zoom is worse! Odd
Thats odd...maybe some dev here sheds some light on this...
The stock gallery resizes the original image for display, and zooms in on the resized one.
I assume this was done for performance sake. (I'm aware there are other gallery viewers that don't do this and are just as fast.)
Any idea of an alternative I can try?
3Shirts said:
I have a weird issue. I took a picture of a car from a bit of a distance (about 20metres).
When I look at it from the camera app and zoom in, it's clear enough that you can read the number plate (license plate for you Americans), but if I zoom the same using the gallery app, it is blurry and you cannot make out the characters.
I don't know why the gallery zoom is worse! Odd
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Gallery app compresses pictures
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625100
See post #7 for a much better app for viewing pictures
Maybe because you took it at 20 Metres, (20 nanometeres?) and its blurry?
/s, I'm American, haha. METERS!
3Shirts said:
Any idea of an alternative I can try?
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B&B gallery is a good alternative.
As I'm rooted and using a custom ROM I don't have the HTC Sense image viewer.
And the froyo one I don't really like because it only organizes the photos by date and when you zoom in it becomes pixelated.
Want an image viewer which will organize by name and will be clear when zoomed into a picture.
Thank you.
Gallery should be the thing.
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Gallery should be the thing.
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That's the one I'm saying is **** lol.
Since I don't get such pixelation in any viewer, I'm not sure what'll work for you. JustPictures! is another viewer, and, I like it.
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Stock gallery has the confirmed blurry/pixelated issue when zooming in all the way. Incidentally, this seems to be related to the 24MB managed heap restriction, which seems a bit low especially when google coders say you shouldn't use native heap allocation too much.
Anyway, You are right, I'm lost too without htc sense gallery and there is no way to port it at the moment. I've found that when I need to zoom all the way in a photo I can use pictureviewer, which has no navigation though.
PS justpictures sorta works, however it's the slowest and most choppy gallery I've seen on android
Definitely no slowness, pixelation (etc) here. Gallery app is the only sluggish one for me. Maybe check you have enough mem space free before opening the app... Known to slow down most apps and make them sluggish on Android.
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th3 said:
Definitely no slowness, pixelation (etc) here. Gallery app is the only sluggish one for me. Maybe check you have enough mem space free before opening the app... Known to slow down most apps and make them sluggish on Android.
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
This is also confirmed by Google, both in eclair and froyo.
This is also completely unrelated to the quantity of free memory, but rather by the fixed limit of memory allocation in the managed heap. I can post the link of code.google if you want to read a very technical discussion about it.
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
This is also confirmed by Google, both in eclair and froyo.
This is also completely unrelated to the quantity of free memory, but rather by the fixed limit of memory allocation in the managed heap. I can post the link of code.google if you want to read a very technical discussion about it.
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Your exactly right and you know what I exactly mean.
Because in the HTC Sense picture viewer you can quite clearly see the difference when you zoom into the pictures compared to the stock android gallery and you can zoom in more with the HTC Sense picture viewer.
I think i would be fine though if in the stock gallery you could at least sort them by name and size. Only sorts it by date, quite annoying.
I might be wrong but I think the issue was even worse on 2.1
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Nobody said stock gallery is slow, please read carefully the post. Next, take a high definition picture, 5 M Pixel or more, then open it on your computer and on your phone. Zoom in all the way on your phone and compare the result to the same level of detail on the computer.
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I read fine the first time. You've misunderstood me.
1. The "etc" meant in reference to any issue you mentioned including "slow/choppy/blurry"; they're all non-issues for me on both viewers - Sense and JustPictures! - except the stock Gallery app. That's sluggish and blurry, which as you correctly mention, is well known for the latter.
2. Except for testing, I never need to put high def images to view on the phone, ever, and the phone taken images give me no problem viewing in any of the 3 apps. AFAICT, only high quality pics are problematic in the stock Gallery app for me. I'll test more on more free time.
3. I didn't mention the blurry stock Gallery zoom could possibly be fixed by more free memory, but to your "most choppy/slowest viewer" remark for JustPictures!. Android routinely performs dirt slow for any app loading a lot of data when the memory space is sub ~45MB.
4. As to the discussion links re the stock Gallery limitations; I've already seen them priorly.
Late Edit: thankfully, you linked the crappy browser image quality pic I complained about there too: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6021
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(aaargh, damn tapatalk lost 20 rows I was writing here...) hehe to sum up
- we miss HTC gallery
- stock android gallery is a problem for me when reading small text in big pictures or details in landscapes. Sometimes it's not very crisp anyway when zoomed in.
- justpictures is slow on my overclocked desire, plenty of memory free . Don't know, some market comments say the same. I also have some problems with pinch zoom. Shame because it looks nice.
Ps: I'm starting to hate tapatalk! Hehe
Edit: by the way, increasing heap size in build. Prop does not help
I think I've found a way to make justpictures bearable (for me)
Small thumbnails, no tilt, portrait mode. The first time you go through your photos it will be a pain (stops and shutters all the time) but subsequently, while not very smooth, can be used.
Pinch zoom is still a bit of a mistery to me: once you start zooming it's quite hard if not impossible to change photo by sliding.
I don't know if it's stock behaviour but I also can't maintain the max level of zoom and keep panning, as soon as I take the finger off it zooms out.. .
I've finished more thorough testing now.
You are right. The Sense viewer zoom level quality and picture sharpness is by far the better of the three viewers. I've tried with up-to 8MB and 8MP images. A 24MB and a 26MB high resolution image fails any level of zoom on all viewers though.
Re the Gallery viewer; I don't fully understand how their heap size explanation holds across all test cases when I have 192KB ~1000x1500 JPEGs giving the same poor zoom quality even at a low zoom level.
Re JustPictures!; during testing I could not replicate any of your earlier mentioned issues leaving it all stock... until I by chance cleared the cache. Ever since, it has been slug slow loading/navigating, choppy and >2MB pics as well as high resolution pics render blurry. You can zoom in more than the Gallery viewer and retain fidelity but no where close to the acuity the Sense viewer achieves. It seems inconsistent and unstable. You can check it out, but I take this recommendation back.
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andycted said:
Pinch zoom is still a bit of a mistery to me: once you start zooming it's quite hard if not impossible to change photo by sliding.
I don't know if it's stock behaviour but I also can't maintain the max level of zoom and keep panning, as soon as I take the finger off it zooms out.. .
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I've never been able to change image while zoomed, and panning while zoomed always resets the zoom for me. Understandably, not ideal at all.
The album sort/view options are the only current advantages it holds above the Sense viewer for me.
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Yup, justpictures looks ok at first and they are updating often, but it's quite messed up in some stuff deep down. If you notice, even when it has cached the images, while scrolling fast enough many still show 'working' in place of the image itself and the choppiness isn't completely gone.
The zoom interface is the last bit that makes it non-recommendable, I think they tried to do something smart there, but failed.
About stock gallery: In fact it's quite strange that heap size could restrict viewing small images correctly, nontheless it's a restriction which I guess hampers proper developement and could force developers to be lazy and just avoid to go near that limit anyway. Stock gallery is from the same guys that developed cooliris for the web and while it always looked awesome, it lacked a bit in functionality.
I think the argument on that google code thread against native stack use doesn't hold much water.
For some reason, google or samsung felt that we shouldn't be able to see the full quality of our picks in the stock gallery app. I was wondering this for my self because my pictures kept appearing blurry on my phone but not n my pc.
I suggest everyne download large image viewer from the market, it allows you to see your pictures in full resolution instead of the blurry mess that the gallery offers. I hope this issue gets handled though, this phone is way too powerful to be forced into lower quality image viewing!
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gobmonster said:
For some reason, google or samsung felt that we shouldn't be able to see the full quality of our picks in the stock gallery app. I was wondering this for my self because my pictures kept appearing blurry on my phone but not n my pc.
I suggest everyne download large image viewer from the market, it allows you to see your pictures in full resolution instead of the blurry mess that the gallery offers. I hope this issue gets handled though, this phone is way too powerful to be forced into lower quality image viewing!
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not samsung..google
I've always hated the blurriness on the stock gallery app too. It was the same on the EVO. The difference with this image viewer app is night and day. I love it Thanks!
I love this gallery for it's functionality, but damn, you are right. It just kills the quality the second you start zooming in.
Large Image Viewer does a nice job, just wish you didn't have to tap left and right arrows to goto the next picture.
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I've always hated the blurriness on the stock gallery app too. It was the same on the EVO. The difference with this image viewer app is night and day. I love it Thanks!
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It was not the same on the evo,the evo had sense gallery which showed the pictures in full res,its the aosp gallery that does enehance the quality, its better with froyo though
I was taking a few sample pictures and found myself very dismayed by the quality when reviewing with the built-in Gallery application.
However, when I viewed them on my desktop PC later, it became obvious that the quality was significantly higher than it initially appeared.
Basically, Gallery sucks when zooming in.
YES! At first I thought the camera wasn't full 5mp, but I was relieved to see the pics were were full 5mp on my comp. It's really stupid how it degrades them.
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Pictures take a lil time to load fully. Also the zoom is a problem with andriod known fact.
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The built-in gallery loads the images in a reduced resolution. This is a known problem in 2.1 and beyond that Nexus One owners discovered back in January/February. Unfortunately they seem to be slow in doing anything about it.
You can vote for it to be fixed on the Android issues site (log in with your Google ID and star it to raise its priority/visibility):
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6587
The workaround is to use another gallery app, like the Multi-touch Gallery by BandB...
So yesterday I email myself a few pics of my car I had on my I pad. When I check them out I notice they are low on detail. I was thinking what the heck higher Res and less detail? I compared the same pic on the ipad and instantly notice the difference. Thinking its impossible I jump into the market and look for another photoviewer and low and behold it displays all that missing detail. I started comparing all my pics on the zoom in both apps on my device (for reference I downloaded viewpic basically it was the first free app I found).
Anyone else notice this? Looks like the stock gallary app is helping to hurt the first impression of the screen and camera when checking out pics. Thankfully it ain't a hardware thing.
Until Google fixes the stock viewer, here is a solution that works for me.
arrtoodeetoo said:
Q: Photos in the stock viewer are blurred when scaled to fit the screen. How do I view my DLSR pics and other high quality photos without the blur?
A: Download QuickPic from the market (free). It's a photo viewer that scales correctly without garbling photos.
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Yep, I have noticed the same, and my Vibrant had the same issue with it's gallery App when it first came out, it was eventually fixed.