Fat32 limits 4GB+ transfer, what about NTFS opition or others? - Atrix 4G General

Although this is not much of an issue before, but with the power of dual core..I can play alot of mkv, avi types directly without doing conversion.
Now, the problem is that those files tends to be pretty huge and often goes over Fat32 transfer limits which I hate the most..
But the player I use, arcMedia, tends to only view folder inside atrix storage and not SD card which makes things a little uneasy for me.
Are there any options that allows me to get rid of the 4Gb limits? Or reformat it?
(Internal storage inside atrix)
From what I look around so far, the desktop dock USB doesn't take NTFS format drive..and alot of other formats as well..

Toady i got my xoom, and found the xoom file system is "generic hierarchical".
what is generic hierarchical? i heard that android's file system is fat32, which can not put over 4gb files onto android device, i want to konw that can i transfer over 4gb files to xoom with generic hierarchical, now i can not find over 4gb file, everyone can help me test it. thanks.

Android won't read NTFS, Windows won't read EXT, so currently the only way is to seperate your file.

amtrakcn said:
Android won't read NTFS, Windows won't read EXT, so currently the only way is to seperate your file.
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xoom file system is "generic hierarchical".
not FAT32? have no 4Gb limits?

The weird part is that, when i use to own a Motorola Milestone i had been using an 8GB card and had it formatted to NTFS and no problem. Smooth like butter.
Im currently using a Patriot MicroSD LX Series 16GB Class 10 and Atrix wont recognize NTFS but only FAT 32. Kinda suxs. Hopefully there is a fix for this.

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[Q] Media files (music, pictures, video) in SD Card not recognized by Honeycomb?

I read somewhere in this forum yesterday someone mentioned that when he inserted a SD Card full of pictures, the built-in Picture Gallery in Honeycomb does not display the pictures in the SD Card. He can only open each picture one by one from the File Manager. Further comments from other folks clarified that Asus added/mounted the SD Card reader but Honeycomb native applications do not recognized them yet.
Is this the case for all media files stored in either microSD card or the full SD card? I mean, most people (especially the 16GB owner) surely plan to use the microSD or SD card to expand the storage of the device. But if those media files cannot be recognized by the Honeycomb application, that means we still need to copy to the internal storage for those files?
I do not have the transformer yet but want to know about it. Thanks!
lie_ui said:
I read somewhere in this forum yesterday someone mentioned that when he inserted a SD Card full of pictures, the built-in Picture Gallery in Honeycomb does not display the pictures in the SD Card. He can only open each picture one by one from the File Manager. Further comments from other folks clarified that Asus added/mounted the SD Card reader but Honeycomb native applications do not recognized them yet.
Is this the case for all media files stored in either microSD card or the full SD card? I mean, most people (especially the 16GB owner) surely plan to use the microSD or SD card to expand the storage of the device. But if those media files cannot be recognized by the Honeycomb application, that means we still need to copy to the internal storage for those files?
I do not have the transformer yet but want to know about it. Thanks!
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Hopefully this will be addressed as honeycomb matures. You can however access the files using a file explorer app, far from ideal but it will do for now.
From the File Manager, can we copy a folder from the SD card to the internal storage?
Or from the SD Card to an extenal storage like HDD?
(I'm trying to ask if we can copy a bunch of pictures in a SD card (taken from a camera) and store them in the external storage for backup and internal storage for displaying in the tablet).
lie_ui said:
From the File Manager, can we copy a folder from the SD card to the internal storage?
Or from the SD Card to an extenal storage like HDD?
(I'm trying to ask if we can copy a bunch of pictures in a SD card (taken from a camera) and store them in the external storage for backup and internal storage for displaying in the tablet).
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Yes, you can copy files and folders using the file manager.
I have no problems with any of the few thousand photos or few thousand songs i have on my micro SD. The transformer recognizes everything fine in gallery, music app etc...
16g transformer here.... Hope that helps.
Also, After the recent OTA a few days ago my sd card disappeared, but i just popped it out put back in and back to normal...
codehtmai said:
Yes, you can copy files and folders using the file manager.
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And hopefully with the 3.1 update in June can just plug the camera in and move the files across in the file explorer..
Gallery3D is a piece of crap. It doesn't refresh properly
tonyz3 said:
I have no problems with any of the few thousand photos or few thousand songs i have on my micro SD. The transformer recognizes everything fine in gallery, music app etc...
16g transformer here.... Hope that helps.
Also, After the recent OTA a few days ago my sd card disappeared, but i just popped it out put back in and back to normal...
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So, if I get it correctly, the issue I mentioned earlier is only with the full SD Card? (not affecting the microSD)?
At least, that's not that bad (as in our smartphone, the Android does recognize all music, pictures stored in the microSD card).
lie_ui said:
So, if I get it correctly, the issue I mentioned earlier is only with the full SD Card? (not affecting the microSD)?
At least, that's not that bad (as in our smartphone, the Android does recognize all music, pictures stored in the microSD card).
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I can only speak for myself but that is the case for me.
I am having the same problem. I tried putting a few cd's onto both the sd and mcsd and still nothing. I cannot get the songs to play in the music player. I can however access pictures but cannot find any of the songs. Anyone else have this problem?
Most people said as soon as they plug in the card the TF automatically recognizes the songs and plays. Mine does not and I cannot find them anywhere even with an explorer app installed? I am also a Android novice!
No problems with pictures..
Regarding music, Have you tried going into settings >manage Apps and delete/clear the cache for the music player? That worked for me.
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I had the same problem, until I removed the Music from my internal storage.
Now the music app sees everything on the MicroSD.
I've not had much luck with them seeing stuff on the dock mounted SD cards though.
That did it!!!!!! WOoooohooooooo! Thanks man. Jeez why should that be so damn difficult?! Thanks a ton man,
IceColdCinco said:
No problems with pictures..
Regarding music, Have you tried going into settings >manage Apps and delete/clear the cache for the music player? That worked for me.
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No problem, glad it worked for you.
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pictures work just fine. as people have said, music can be iffy, just clear the data and it'll work.
one thing though, anything plugged into the USB ports or SD slot on the dock WON'T load in any of the default apps. at least not on the 3 USB drives i've tried. you can still open everything from the file manager without any issues, but they won't show up.
Make sure your sdcard is formatted using fat32
You are welcome
How do you get the camera to save images to removable storage?
I have no issues with default music app and playerpro seeing all my music on my microsd card.
marhodges said:
How do you get the camera to save images to removable storage?
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At this point you don't :-(
Hopefully 3.1 or a subsequent update will work all this out.
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Make sure your sdcard is formatted using fat32
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I don't think that matters - Transformer can read/write external USB hard drives formatted to NTFS; there's no reason why it shouldn't read NTFS cards, either (not that I've tried, as it's kinda rare to have one).

What is the SD card for?

Hello all I am typing this on my new iconia. The tablet seems to always want to use internal memory for everything (pictures videos etc.)and does not offer app2sd or a way to even navigate to the microsd card without a 3rd party app like astro, so what is the SD card intended for?
It is a little odd there's no mention of it in the default file browser, isn't it?
It's not a primary feature; not when the tablet itself sports 32GB of storage, I guess. It was enough that Android supported it, so they bunged it in just because.
If you've filled up your 32GB I can see how it would be a hassle trying to use the external SD card as easily as you do the internal storage.
http://youtu.be/JmvCpR45LKA
You can never have to much storage. I keep my 32gb flash drive and 250gb hard drive close by.
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hazard99 said:
You can never have to much storage.
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Amen to that!! I've got 2.5Tb storage on my server, 1Tb on this PC, 1Tb on my PS3, about 700 megabytes in removable storage and then some in various gadgets.. and I STILL feel like I'm running out of space all the time!
Well my tablet is a 16gb and is running out of room due to offline maps. I had not really considered that the data would be handled differently than an android phone where the app lives in internal memory and the data was on the SD card.
I've moved all of my video and music to the external SD card; PowerAmp has no issues with the files being there (and has an option to look in any subfolder off /mnt/ to find the files.)
Since most of my music is in WMA format I don't use the default Music player very often and don't know if it's "smart" enough (i.e. been told) to look in a /Music folder on the external card.

Putting movies onto SDcard?

Hi guys,
I have a 32GB SD card which is formatted in the TN7. I can remove it and put it in my Mac and copy some movies (under 2GB each) onto it, but I keep getting an issue where I can move over about 2 or 3 movies, but after that it doesn't want to know!
Sometimes they are on the card but when inserted into the TN7 and trying to play the movie it doesn't work!
I have tried both ways of using the Android transfer program as well as removing the SD card from the tablet and putting it in my Mac but still get the same problem.
I don't want to put them all on the TN7 as it will take up alot of memory, cant transfer them to the card in either with the SD card issue.
Running all latest software.
Any other way to try it?
Cheers
ady702 said:
Hi guys,
I have a 32GB SD card which is formatted in the TN7. I can remove it and put it in my Mac and copy some movies (under 2GB each) onto it, but I keep getting an issue where I can move over about 2 or 3 movies, but after that it doesn't want to know!
Sometimes they are on the card but when inserted into the TN7 and trying to play the movie it doesn't work!
I have tried both ways of using the Android transfer program as well as removing the SD card from the tablet and putting it in my Mac but still get the same problem.
I don't want to put them all on the TN7 as it will take up alot of memory, cant transfer them to the card in either with the SD card issue.
Running all latest software.
Any other way to try it?
Cheers
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Hmm, interesting issue. Can't say I know the solution but what I would try next would be to see if the problem duplicates when using a different PC, maybe a windows machine for greater difference. I've personally moved 6 movies in one go and had them all appear and play on my TN7.
gtmgtm said:
Hmm, interesting issue. Can't say I know the solution but what I would try next would be to see if the problem duplicates when using a different PC, maybe a windows machine for greater difference. I've personally moved 6 movies in one go and had them all appear and play on my TN7.
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I tried to do the transfer in Windows (under VMware) but when I copy the file over I get a message saying that I might not be able to view the file if I copy it over?! Some files work and others say they cannot be played.
ady702 said:
I tried to do the transfer in Windows (under VMware) but when I copy the file over I get a message saying that I might not be able to view the file if I copy it over?! Some files work and others say they cannot be played.
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Are they all in supported video formats?
JakeTheOneDude said:
Are they all in supported video formats?
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MKV and MP4 files
Got a new 64gb card today and still get the same problem, transferring movies to it lets say 6 of them. 2 will work fine and other ones will fail to play.
What memory cards are you guys using?
Ok so messing around I put the movies I wanted on the tablets storage, then I got ES file manager and tried to copy them on to the 64GB micro sdcard, but when you go play the file it says movie cannot be played! I copied 7 over and only 4 play. Weird thing is they all play fine from the tablets own storage but copying them to the sdcard has some issue somewhere.
Hello.If you are plaing on built in player try mx player on sw settings.Im using mx player on 64gb sandisk mobile ultra without problems.
thanks, tried that already but the problem is copying the movies from internal memory to sdcard, they always 60% fail the other 40% work!
Thought I would just try this FakeFlashTest..
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I can return the 64GB one for a refund
Try Hd Tune pro and check for errors in sd card.

Why sd card?

Sd card whats the point if most app/games are install internal memory. No option for adapted storage, the hack seems to do more harm than good. Whe i download a big game. Even when i transfer file to sd, most memory stay in internal. I see almost no use for it
eduardmc said:
Sd card whats the point if most app/games are install internal memory. No option for adapted storage, the hack seems to do more harm than good. Whe i download a big game. Even when i transfer file to sd, most memory stay in internal. I see almost no use for it
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Why this thread if you have no use of a SD Card?
SD cards are not just for game storage, people keep their personal videos and pictures on them and like the ability to swap between devices and take their pictures and videos along.
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I've exhausted my internal storage with apps and app data so I wouldn't be able to take pictures and video if it weren't for the SD card. I also store movies and TV shows for areas where I have no data. I can also pop in my Phantom 3's micro SD Card and view it's 2K footage.
I've got a 200GB which I used the hack to adopt... No troubles at all. I would much rather have this setup than no expansion path and just 64GB onboard.

USB max size

What is the max size USB drive that I can use with these Android units?
As long as it's formatted to fat32, any size should work
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thachosenone said:
As long as it's formatted to fat32, any size should work
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is that the same format required for micro sd cards?
CadillacMike said:
is that the same format required for micro sd cards?
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I believe so
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Windows will not let you FAT32 format anything bigger than 32 Gib, so you will need to use a utility called fat32format - just google it. With that I was able to install a 250 Gb USB SSD drive in my glove compartment!
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Windows will not let you FAT32 format anything bigger than 32 Gib, so you will need to use a utility called fat32format - just google it. With that I was able to install a 250 Gb USB SSD drive in my glove compartment!
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With a drive that size, how long does it take to read the files?
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With a drive that size, how long does it take to read the files?
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Read what files?
Playing movies or music is instant, because it only reads a very small part at a time. If you are copying files the size of the drive has nothing to do with throughput. The SSD drive is faster than anything else (USB flash drive or SD card), but the throughput is bottle-necked by the USB2.0 interface.
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Read what files?
Playing movies or music is instant, because it only reads a very small part at a time. If you are copying files the size of the drive has nothing to do with throughput. The SSD drive is faster than anything else (USB flash drive or SD card), but the throughput is bottle-necked by the USB2.0 interface.
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I meant more like opening the music folder and having to scroll from A to Z and having a lot of music. I'm kind of comparing apples to oranges here, as I'm thinking about my old Kenwood deck. It would take a while to scroll through 50,000 mp3's looking for something. The more I think about it, it is probably more related to the deck than the storage.
I have a 128gb memory stick formatted in fat32. It only take about 5 mins when I 1st connect the memory stick. otherwise it plays instantly, and searching is instant. I use Poweramp as my music player app.
Koush
Nothing on my unit takes 5 minutes, not even 5 seconds. Everything seems to be instant. Of course I don't have 50,000 mp3's and even if I did, I would not dump them into a single folder - I would rather organize them into manageable playlists. The reason I installed the large SSD is because I found myself replacing large chunk of my mp3 collection with VEVO mp4s that I download from YouTube. It seems more fun when you have a head unit capable of playing music videos. Also I have a fairly large collection TTC videos, which can also be listened to.
That's the exact response I was looking for.
You can use what ever you want anything over 32gb you must format from xfat to fat 32 you loose some capacity but not enough to worry about
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