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HTC Calendar

Hi,
I'm currently impatiently awaiting the arrival of my HD2 from expansys. I'm just wondering about the calendar functionality. I've heard from a few places an HTC program is used instead of the default WinMo version. Is this capable of handling multiple google calendars? My wife and I like to share calendars to keep up on what's happening as life gets quite busy and this function on iPhone is very useful...
Thanks
David

Hi there,
The calendar is an interface for the built in ms app. It should not support google calendar at all.
However, my wife and i use exchange for that. Actually shared calendar was the reason she wanted exchange.

Hi Sproxy,
I thought the problem was with the activesync program in WinMo that stopped syncing multiple google calendars. I thought that because on the iPhone you can sync multiple google calendars through using the Exchange protocol but on WinMo you are limited to one calendar...
Does anyone know how you can get it working or if this might be a future feature?

IrishDavid said:
Hi Sproxy,
I thought the problem was with the activesync program in WinMo that stopped syncing multiple google calendars. I thought that because on the iPhone you can sync multiple google calendars through using the Exchange protocol but on WinMo you are limited to one calendar...
Does anyone know how you can get it working or if this might be a future feature?
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if you can sync one google calendar, it would be enough because you just have to sync one calendar, which is your own. Your wife calendar events can be added under "add friends calendar" in google calendar.

nghj said:
if you can sync one google calendar, it would be enough because you just have to sync one calendar, which is your own. Your wife calendar events can be added under "add friends calendar" in google calendar.
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I don't think thats quite what the original post was getting at.
With ActiveSync, you can sync a calendar, this will bring the main google calendar from your account, ie yours. It doesn't support multi calendars from google.
There is a program out there called OggSync http://oggsync.com/ which reports that it does support all calendars for WinMo.
I've not had chance to try it myself, but will be doing when my HD2 arrives.

1) It is possible to sync two Exchange Servers with your PPC. See http://tinyurl.com/yhuq7ap
Shortcut:
Change the registry key
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\ActiveSync\EnableNonLocalCrossPollination]
from (DWORD) 0 to (DWORD) 1
Use a registry editor like Pocket TotalCommander to edit the key.
2) Google offers to sync your calendar, contacts and mail via the ActiveSync Protocol. See http://tinyurl.com/dc4kq9
Shortcut:
Server: m.google.com (use SSL)
Username: [email protected] (with the @gmail.com / @googlemail.com part!)
Password: IHopeYouHaveAGoodPW
I've never tested the solution I provide here, but this should theoretically work.
If you test it, some (including me) might be interested to hear your experiences.
~Chris

Hi guys, nicelad_uk got more to what my intention was. I have looked and tested with the emulator and found that it's impossible to sync more than one google calendar through exchange. I was wondering whether if HTC had actually rewritten the calendar app and it would therefore support multiple google calendars.
I have tried the OggSync application with outlook and will try it out again when i get my HD2. My only problem is I didn't like that you couldn't add to other calendars (not your main calendar) from without outlook and I just wonder if it will be possible to do so from WinMo...
I really hope Microsoft sort out this stupid problem sometime soon it really is quite frustrating!
Thanks for the help,
David

cimnine said:
I've never tested the solution I provide here, but this should theoretically work.
If you test it, some (including me) might be interested to hear your experiences.
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It doesn't work. Or at least it didn't work for me when I tried. Reading the suggestions about this workaround carefully I came to the conclusion that it might work with ActiveSync connection to PC, but not Exchange over the air.
IrishDavid said:
I really hope Microsoft sort out this stupid problem sometime soon it really is quite frustrating!
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The bad news is that it's not a bug and therefore won't be fixed. It's by design and considered to be a "security" feature. This way your company thinks that their stuff won't end up somewhere on Google. I know it's stupid (and wrong), but I don't make decisions here.
BTW, it works the same on the iPhone and Android - only one Exchange connection allowed.
What we really need is native support for IMAP Idle really - there's no need whatsoever to use Exchange for personal mail.

Hi, I lookong for some solution (plugin) for Windows mobile 6,1 calendar to switch off or on the phone and another network services and the ringing profiles depending on calendar timepoints. I did not found solution for this problem, otherworlds I would like to integrate some scheduler to the calendar. Is it possible?

Anyone tried FUNAMBOL for Adnroid?

I think it's supposed to propose a solution for the lack of exchange support (calendar for example) with android.
Anyone knows if it really does?

itaysk said:
I think it's supposed to propose a solution for the lack of exchange support (calendar for example) with android.
Anyone knows if it really does?
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What lack of Exchange support?
I have been using my Android Device with full exchange support for a long while now.
As to the OP, no, I have not used this app...

exchange on N1
Calendar Sync, Accept invitations, overlay Gmail and exchange calendars in a single view, GAL support, auto complete from Gmail and GAL when composing an email, search email on server.
All of the above worked perfect on my good old iPhone.

itaysk said:
Calendar Sync, Accept invitations, overlay Gmail and exchange calendars in a single view, GAL support, auto complete from Gmail and GAL when composing an email, search email on server.
All of the above worked perfect on my good old iPhone.
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I can accept and create calendar events without issue. Never had a need to overlay Google and Corp calendar since I want to keep them separate...
I use 2 different apps for personal and work email, so don't need personal contact in my corp directory or work contact in my personal directory. I can auto complete names without issue in those respective apps as well.
Glad the iPhone let you do that, but I would not have used those features.

Talderon said:
I can accept and create calendar events without issue. Never had a need to overlay Google and Corp calendar since I want to keep them separate...
I use 2 different apps for personal and work email, so don't need personal contact in my corp directory or work contact in my personal directory. I can auto complete names without issue in those respective apps as well.
Glad the iPhone let you do that, but I would not have used those features.
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Hey... maybe I'm missing something.
How do you use calendar? N1 doesn't come with exchange calendar app. Are you using Moto's CorpCal?
What about autocomplete in exchange mail "To" field? Did you do anything special to enable it?

I run my own Funambol server and have used the client for years on Windows/Linux Thunderbird/Outlook and Windows Mobile.
The client for Android only syncs contacts at the moment, and it works. But, the developer typically works at a snails pace, so I'm not expecting to see full sync capability for another 2 years.

Exchange calendar & contacts sync to Nexus but not to Google account

I have a stock Nexus One for AT&T running Froyo 91. My Outlook Exchange calendar and contacts (which is my primary source for each) sync perfectly to the phone, but will not sync to my Google account. I have tried deleting and recreating my Google account calendar and contacts; alas, to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

kmohr said:
I have a stock Nexus One for AT&T running Froyo 91. My Outlook Exchange calendar and contacts (which is my primary source for each) sync perfectly to the phone, but will not sync to my Google account. I have tried deleting and recreating my Google account calendar and contacts; alas, to no avail. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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It won't sync to your google account just by setting it up on the phone. It still pulls from the multiple sources to give you a single view of all your events on the phone itself. If you want to sync your calendar/contacts to your google account itself, you'll need to use Google Sync. http://www.google.com/mobile/sync/

Mi|enko said:
It won't sync to your google account just by setting it up on the phone. It still pulls from the multiple sources to give you a single view of all your events on the phone itself. If you want to sync your calendar/contacts to your google account itself, you'll need to use Google Sync.
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Thanks for your reply. I've been to that URL, and it seems odd to me that Google Sync is not available for Android? What am I missing?

kmohr said:
Thanks for your reply. I've been to that URL, and it seems odd to me that Google Sync is not available for Android? What am I missing?
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Your post is confusing. Are you saying that your Google calendar is not syncing with your phone? Or are you saying that your Google calendar is not syncing with your outlook calendar?

gibosn6594 said:
Your post is confusing. Are you saying that your Google calendar is not syncing with your phone? Or are you saying that your Google calendar is not syncing with your outlook calendar?
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Apologies for the confusion; I'll try again. My Exchange email (and *.edu extension), contacts, and calendar all sync to my Nexus One just fine. Likewise, the email from my Google account syncs to the native Google email app on the phone. However, my Google calendar and contacts both remain empty; in other words the Nexus One calendar and contacts are not syncing to my Google account. I hope this clarifies my issue. Thanks again.

@kmhor
Two things. Have you checked the sync settings for google to make sure calendar and contacts are syncing?
Secondly, and more basic, do you have anything in that google calendar and contacts?
Also if it is google apps set up through your edu (I have that) which you are trying to sync have they activated the Cal / contacts?
Most likely it is the first setting.

snlu178 said:
@kmhor
Two things. Have you checked the sync settings for google to make sure calendar and contacts are syncing?
Secondly, and more basic, do you have anything in that google calendar and contacts?
Also if it is google apps set up through your edu (I have that) which you are trying to sync have they activated the Cal / contacts?
Most likely it is the first setting.
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Yes I have checked the settings and they are set to sync. Second, no, my Google account calendar and contacts are blank. This is the point: I want to populate them by syncing from Exchange via my phone. I hope this clarifies my question. Thanks for your reply.

So you want to go from exchange to your phone and then to Google.
No your phone does not do that.

Your phone keeps the Google stuff separate from the MS exchange stuff. It combines them in to a single view on your handset.
You can migrate the calendar using MS outlook on your PC. Open outlook and sync to your MS exchange account. Then download google calendar sync:
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955
And this will sync your calendar from MS outlook to Google calendar.
I don't know how to migrate Contacts or Notes.

mr_raider said:
Your phone keeps the Google stuff separate from the MS exchange stuff. It combines them in to a single view on your handset.
You can migrate the calendar using MS outlook on your PC. Open outlook and sync to your MS exchange account. Then download google calendar sync:
http://www.google.com/support/calendar/bin/answer.py?answer=89955
And this will sync your calendar from MS outlook to Google calendar.
I don't know how to migrate Contacts or Notes.
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Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry. This seems like a significant impediment to wide-spread adoption of Android for business users. Like it or not, MS Exchange is a huge established base for business. The idea that one cannot maintain a single list of contacts, tasks, and notes, in addition to a synchronized calendar calendars between one's work and non-work systems is vexing. For all it's other challenges, Windows Mobile does this pretty well.
OK, off my soap box and on to Google's N1 forum with the suggestion. Thanks again.

kmohr said:
Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry. This seems like a significant impediment to wide-spread adoption of Android for business users. Like it or not, MS Exchange is a huge established base for business. The idea that one cannot maintain a single list of contacts, tasks, and notes, in addition to a synchronized calendar calendars between one's work and non-work systems is vexing. For all it's other challenges, Windows Mobile does this pretty well.
OK, off my soap box and on to Google's N1 forum with the suggestion. Thanks again.
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You misunderstand. Your phone will sync google calendar, mail and contacts to google, and exchange mail/calendar/contacts, to exchange server. It will show gmail under gmail, and exchange mail under email. It will combine Google contacts with Exchange contacts in a single list on your phone. It will however keep them segregated. You can NOT cross sync a gmail contact with exchange server. This is right and as it should be.
In your calendar or contacts you can select to show gmail contacts, exchange contacts or both.
I have owned WinMo phones from 5.0 onwards, and I can tell you winmo can not do any of this. It can only sync contacts/calendar to one account, either MS exchange, or gmail. And that's only because gmail is compatible with exchange prtocol.

mr_raider said:
You misunderstand. Your phone will sync google calendar, mail and contacts to google, and exchange mail/calendar/contacts, to exchange server. It will show gmail under gmail, and exchange mail under email. It will combine Google contacts with Exchange contacts in a single list on your phone. It will however keep them segregated. You can NOT cross sync a gmail contact with exchange server. This is right and as it should be.
In your calendar or contacts you can select to show gmail contacts, exchange contacts or both.
I have owned WinMo phones from 5.0 onwards, and I can tell you winmo can not do any of this. It can only sync contacts/calendar to one account, either MS exchange, or gmail. And that's only because gmail is compatible with exchange prtocol.
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Mr_Rader: Thanks again for your help. I think you just answered my question. My hope is to be able to seamlessly maintain a single list of contacts between Exchange and Google. In other words, if Mr. Smith's phone number changes and I update it in Exchange while at work, I would like that change to be reflected in Mr. Smith's Google contact when I want to call him from home and am looking him up his contact information on Google contacts. If I understand you correctly, this cannot be done and I would need to update his contact twice to ensure consistency.
My reference to WinMo related to the ability of my old HTC Kasier to essentially serve as a conduit between Exchange Contacts on my work account and Outlook contacts on my home machine. When I synced via USB at home, it compared the contacts on Exchange to those on the home machine, and updated both to reflect the information in the most recently updated version. This is what I am trying to acheive here.
Thanks again.

kmohr said:
Mr_Rader: Thanks again for your help. I think you just answered my question. My hope is to be able to seamlessly maintain a single list of contacts between Exchange and Google. In other words, if Mr. Smith's phone number changes and I update it in Exchange while at work, I would like that change to be reflected in Mr. Smith's Google contact when I want to call him from home and am looking him up his contact information on Google contacts. If I understand you correctly, this cannot be done and I would need to update his contact twice to ensure consistency.
My reference to WinMo related to the ability of my old HTC Kasier to essentially serve as a conduit between Exchange Contacts on my work account and Outlook contacts on my home machine. When I synced via USB at home, it compared the contacts on Exchange to those on the home machine, and updated both to reflect the information in the most recently updated version. This is what I am trying to acheive here.
Thanks again.
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I use a licensed syncing tool (gSyncit) to sync my work calendar (in Exchange 2007) from Outlook 2010 to my google account 'Work' calendar. It then propagates to iCal on my Mac and my Nexus One.
This effectively is using my Google account as the conduit rather than the phone - would this be an acceptable alternative? gSyncit handles contacts, calendars, etc.
http://www.daveswebsite.com/software/gsync/

CodeMonkey said:
I use a licensed syncing tool (gSyncit) to sync my work calendar (in Exchange 2007) from Outlook 2010 to my google account 'Work' calendar. It then propagates to iCal on my Mac and my Nexus One.
This effectively is using my Google account as the conduit rather than the phone - would this be an acceptable alternative? gSyncit handles contacts, calendars, etc.
http://www.daveswebsite.com/software/gsync/
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That would work, except I need to get past our local IT support folks who frown upon installing such third-party apps on work machines. I will check it out though. Thanks for the suggestion!

kmohr said:
That would work, except I need to get past our local IT support folks who frown upon installing such third-party apps on work machines. I will check it out though. Thanks for the suggestion!
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No worries.
I tend to forget about the IT support policies - being a developer gets me a lot of slack

CodeMonkey said:
No worries.
I tend to forget about the IT support policies - being a developer gets me a lot of slack
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Yeah, and I hear you guys get all the beautiful women too! Maybe in my next life... ;-)

Calendar which is "Visible" but "Not Synced"?

Since updating my Streak to 2.2, I seem to have lost any Calendar which is only visible on the Phone, but which does not synchronise with Google. I am sure that 2.1 had one (called "PC Sync", I think).
(Note: I keep all my data in Outlook. I want to share it with my phone. I do NOT want Google to have any access to it).
When I look in the Calendar application, there is only one Calendar listed (Menu - More - Calendars), which is the one from my linked GMail account. There are 3 options available for that calendar:
1) "synced, visible" - which means that I can see the data in the calendar application, but that it is also synced with my Google account;
2) "synced, not visible" - which means that I can NOT see the data in the calendar application, but that it is still synced with my Google account;
3) "not synced, not visible" - which means that it is not synced with my Google account (great!), but I can't see the data in the calendar application :-(
What I really want is a fourth option "not synced, visible", but this doesn't exist.
I can create new calendars from my PC when logged on to Google (but these have the same set of options on the phone and cannot be set to "not synced, visible"). I cannot find any way of creating a new calendar on the phone itself.
I'm almost ready to give up on Android and go back to WinMo, unless anybody here can help ...

Philip, the standard Android phone will have a native calendar and contact app that is visible. From there, you have the option to sync or not sync each with Google. Please do not give up on Android devices simply because Dell has done things differently than the standard Android device.
There is a solution. You must find a third party vendor that has a calendar provided with their software and install it. You have a requirement that the sync with Outlook does not use Google as the conduit. We must look at the chart at syncdroid dot net with a P under the Calendar column which indicates the have a Provided Calendar app. We see that there are 4 options available for you. MyPhoneExplorer is free, has a very good reputation, and uses USB or Wi-Fi to sync. VCOrganizer Pro has a good reputation and syncs via Wi-Fi. MyLinkAdvanced syncs with USB. CompanionLink for Outlook has a good reputation, free phone and email tech support, has a free 14 day trial and syncs through USB or Wi-Fi. If you would really like to use a wireless sync so the calendar is synced at any time, you can enroll with the $10 per month plan with CompanionLink to send your data with encryption through CompanionLink's servers to your Streak. Since it's encrypted, not even CompanionLink can "see" it.
If you are using Outlook 2010, you may not use MyLinkAdvanced because it is not compatible with Outlook 2010.
One great benefit of most non-native calendars is that you have the ability to search for an item. This is not possible with the native calendar app.
I personally use CompanionLink for Outlook and it works well.

Emperor Crusher said:
the standard Android phone will have a native calendar and contact app that is visible. From there, you have the option to sync or not sync each with Google.
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Unfortunately that's not quite the full story. As I explained, if I choose NOT to synchronise with Google, then there is no option to actually view my data within the Android Calendar application. (Contacts are not a problem, only the Calendar).
Emperor Crusher said:
There is a solution. You must find a third party vendor that has a calendar provided with their software and install it. You have a requirement that the sync with Outlook does not use Google as the conduit. We must look at the chart at syncdroid dot net with a P under the Calendar column which indicates the have a Provided Calendar app. We see that there are 4 options available for you. MyPhoneExplorer is free, has a very good reputation, and uses USB or Wi-Fi to sync.
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I'm well aware of http://synchdroid.net, but unfortunately the information there is incorrect in respect of MyPhoneExplorer - it does not provide either Calendar or Contact applications on the Andoid platform (I know this because I use MPE to get my data from Outlook to my Dell Streak).
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VCOrganizer Pro has a good reputation and syncs via Wi-Fi.
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That has not been my experience with VCO, unfortunately - it duplicated my Contacts and corrupted my Outlook data. You just need to look at the comments in the Android Marketplace to see that many people have had problems with this application. What leads you to believe that it has "a good reputation"?
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One great benefit of most non-native calendars is that you have the ability to search for an item. This is not possible with the native calendar app.
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True - but the native application can share its data with other applications (such as CalWidget, which I find very useful).

Suggestions:
Jorte - provides an independent calendar app, can import csv files to get you Outlook data in
Offline Calendar - stand alone calendar app
AnCal - another standalone calendar

Philip,
Let me repeat what I said. The STANDARD ANDROID phone has a Calendar app that remains visible whether or not you sync. Put another way, Dell has made their Streak to be a NON-Standard Android, if what you say is true - and I have no reason to doubt you.
I said that MyPhoneExplorer has a very good reputation, but VCOrganizer just has a good reputation. I see both good and bad about every program on the forums. Comparably, VCOrganizer just has less bad than others, from what I have seen. Your milage may vary.
CompanionLink for Outlook syncs to it's own calendar, but it also syncs that calendar with the native calendar. Now, even if the native calendar is invisible, it stands to reason that the Companionlink DejaOffice Calendar will still sync with it. Therefore, Calwidget will still get information from it. Because Dell has, um, provided you with this opportunity, you can test the free trial of Companionlink to see if this is true.

Philip,
I saw this quote on the FJSoftware forum and they are the developers of MyPhoneExplorer. The answer came from their staff.
Does the app just facilitate syncing or does it contain it's own Calendar and Contact app?
Both. MyPhoneExplorer has basicly its own interface. But you can enable the sync f.e. to Outlook and other apps.
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So, that's where I got my information. Perhaps there was some confusion in the translation. I have asked them to clarify this.

MyPhoneExplorer
OK, I think that I understand the confusion.
MyPhoneExplorer maintains its own Contact and Calendar applications on the PC, but not on the (Android) phone, where it uses the native applications.
I think that this stems from its origins as a way to synchronise SonyEricsson phones with a PC, in the days before PIMs like Outlook were widely used.

I have the exact same problem as the OP and I think that most of the suggestions offered here miss the nature of the problem.
At least under GB with CM7 nightlies there is no way to have a standalone calendar that does not sync with Google. You can install AnCal or Offline Calendar and they will maintain their own files, but these are not visible to the standard Android APIs that 3rd party conduits which sync with Outlook rely on. I have verified this on my own phone, where I have three calendars: Personal (GCal), Work (GCal), and AnCal. When you open the stock Calendar app (or at least as stock as CM7 makes it), you ONLY see the two GCal calendars. When you launch the MPE client on the device you ONLY see the two GCal calendars. For app practical purposes AnCal might as well not exist.
Worst of all any attempt to sync with MPE or syncdroid dumps all your Outlook data on Google's servers. If you try to use this software to sync your work calendar you may end up fired for putting unsecured sensitive information in Google's hands. If your company has an exchange server this problem is solved, otherwise you are out of luck.
I am with the OP here.... Android REALLY REALLY needs a "visible, no sync" calendar option. Google cannot be trusted any more than any other corporation to safeguard sensitive data, forcing you to put all your calendar info on the cloud is just ridiculous.
The last bit may be a bug in the CM7 nightlies that may get resolved once the official release comes around. I though that I could work around the problem by turning off calendar sync under "Accounts and Sync" and leaving the calendar as "visible, sync". Since I don't use my GCal for practically anything of value I was ready to sacrifice the sync in order to prevent my work calendar from ending up on Google's servers. Turns out that CM7 ignores the global setting under "Accounts and Sync" and responds to the calendar sync setting in the Calendar app. Hope this is just a temporary bug that gets fixed.

GroovyGeek said:
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I am with the OP here.... Android REALLY REALLY needs a "visible, no sync" calendar option. Google cannot be trusted any more than any other corporation to safeguard sensitive data, forcing you to put all your calendar info on the cloud is just ridiculous.
The last bit may be a bug in the CM7 nightlies that may get resolved once the official release comes around. I though that I could work around the problem by turning off calendar sync under "Accounts and Sync" and leaving the calendar as "visible, sync". Since I don't use my GCal for practically anything of value I was ready to sacrifice the sync in order to prevent my work calendar from ending up on Google's servers. Turns out that CM7 ignores the global setting under "Accounts and Sync" and responds to the calendar sync setting in the Calendar app. Hope this is just a temporary bug that gets fixed.
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Nope, you're right - it's not a bug in a particular interim release. Froyo 2.2 does the same thing. There is no "visible, no sync" setting, and the sync settings for the phone are ignored if you want to view your calendar data (because you have to select SOME form of 'visible', which is only 'synced, visible').
Why in the world would Google FORCE you to sync your Calendar data if you want to view it? I agree, that seems rather insane.
- Tim

[Q] Sharing a Google account on multiple phones

I imagine quite a few people have set up multiple Android phones for their immediate family, and I'm looking for suggestions.
I have three myTouch 4Gs (one for each family member). We each have our own Google account and we also have a "family" Google account, which I am planning to use for shared contacts and calendars. Each person will also want their own calendar and contacts.
Should I first configure each phone to use the "family" account, and then add each person's "user" account to the phone for contacts and calendar? If I do this will each phone automatically sync the shared contacts & calendar and then the individual user's contacts & calendar?
Can Android handle this or is this a bad idea?
BTW I'm aware that one user can own the calendars and share them with the other users (that's what I do now for the iPhone), but I don't believe the same can be done for contacts, can it?
Thanks ... Mike

Either way, Android can handle multiple Google accounts since 2.x update.

You need to set them up using the one you want as default first. Theres no way to change this afterwards.

@option94 - thanks. What would br the downside of having a particular account be the default? Would it only affect the Market? Or does Gmail always use the default account for sending, even if (say) you are replying to a message sent to your non-default account.
@borodin1 - thanks.

I dont recall who, but someone had an issue with it. I believe it was something to do with calendar. And you are correct about the market.

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I dont recall who, but someone had an issue with it. I believe it was something to do with calendar. And you are correct about the market.
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So one more thing occurred to me as I was playing around with these phones trying to get them set up "right" the first time. If all three have the same default Google account, what happens with the "Back up data with my Google Account" option? If enabled, would each phone clobber the others' backup? That wouldn't be good.
Thanks again.
Mike

Thats one that I haven't run into. I would hope that they would all sync with each other, but then you would be sharing contacts and such among all three phones.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to set them up as follows and see how it goes:
All phones - set up "family" Google account first (which means they will all share the same Market account). Sync calendar only. Turn off "Back up data with my Google Account".
Individual phones - set up the individual's Google account second, and sync contacts and mail.

Sounds good. Let us know how it goes.
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Is there a way to clear the Calendar cache without doing a Factory data reset?
I didn't like the idea of the other two family members being able to manage the calendars, so I decided to switch to the following setup (only tried on mine so far):
All phones - set up "family" Google account first (which means they will all share the same Market account). Sync none of calendar, contacts, and mail. Turn off "Back up data with my Google Account".
Individual phones - set up the individual's Google account second, and sync calendar, contacts, and mail.
However ... Even after forcing several syncs and a reboot, the built-in calendar still only lets me choose calendars from the "family" account, not from my individual account. CalWidget lets me choose from both sets of calendars (the "family" set and my individual set, but if I choose my individual set it doesn't display any entries. And Jorte doesn't tell me whether it's getting entries from the "family" or "individual" calendar.
Since the "Family" calendars are shared (read-only) to the individuals they have the same names in both "family" and "individual". I suspect I have confused Android, and am looking for a way to clear out whatever cached information it might have.
Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks ... Mike

wenglish said:
Thanks for the info. I'm going to set them up as follows and see how it goes:
All phones - set up "family" Google account first (which means they will all share the same Market account). Sync calendar only. Turn off "Back up data with my Google Account".
Individual phones - set up the individual's Google account second, and sync contacts and mail.
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I've been doing this for a few months. I don't sync anything with the family account though, I just use it for the Market. I would like to know if the Back Up data with my Google Account option will clobber or replicate settings among multiple phones, or if it's smart enough to store the settings and link them to the SIM card ID or something.
Otherwise, it works great.

signal15 - I have run into a problem with the setup I described (and which you are also using I believe). Do you have multiple calendars owned by the "family" (shared) account? If so, are they still displaying OK?
In my case the "family" account has multiple calendars and shares them to the three family members' gmail accounts.
On phone 1 (mine) I am syncing only the calendars in my personal gmail account (which are shared out from the family calendar). Up to last night it worked OK (showing all the calendars), but as of last night all those calendars (except for the default calendar of my personal gmail account and the defaulty calendar of the family account) have disappeared from the phone - I can't see them listed in the settings where you get to see which calendars should be displayed.
Phones 2 and 3 are syncing the calendars in the family gmail account (which is the owner of the calendars), and they are working OK (so far).
One of the annoying aspects of all this is that you're never sure whether something went wrong on the phone, or at Google's end.

I fixed the problem of disappearing calendars, by following steps from the Pimlical forum.
I needed to force stop Calendar Sync Adapter and clear data & force stop Calendar Storage, then do a sync all.
I have my calendars back, but I really don't want to have to be doing this periodically. I really expected better from Google (I'm particularly annoyed at them right now because I recently discovered there's a long-term "functional anomaly" that prevents appointments more than a couple of months old from syncing to the phone).

This won't help with contact syncing but you can share a calendar with full read write privileges with multiple accounts already in google calendar. I believe you have to set it up from the desktop version of the Google calendar website but after that it works perfectly with your phones.
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