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I am new to the Android OS, but would like to remove as much bloatware as possible one I've achieved that SU goodness.
Things like:
VZNavigator
VZRingtone
VZMusic
VZVideo
Verizon Backup Assitant
BING
TW.Launcher
Need for Speed
Tetris
etc...
Can anyone contribute to a definitive list of apps that are safe to remove from the Fascinate, once rooted?
(Also, how can I remove the VZ-related bookmarks from the Browser app?)
Not sure if this is related or not, but I removed the mobile hot spot app or whatever it was called using Titanium Backup uninstall and now the Wifi cannot scan and will not stay on or work at all.
BTownTKD said:
I am new to the Android OS, but would like to remove as much bloatware as possible one I've achieved that SU goodness.
Things like:
VZNavigator
VZRingtone
VZMusic
VZVideo
Verizon Backup Assitant
BING
TW.Launcher
Need for Speed
Tetris
etc...
Can anyone contribute to a definitive list of apps that are safe to remove from the Fascinate, once rooted?
(Also, how can I remove the VZ-related bookmarks from the Browser app?)
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I have removed nfs, vzvideo, vztones, vzmusic, and backup assistant and so far everything seems fine
I also have root with the help of this forum ....
QUESTION: .... do you have a backup / recovery bootloader like nandroid or clockwork mod installed (or are we waiting for these to be released) ?
mddmx said:
I also have root with the help of this forum ....
QUESTION: .... do you have a backup / recovery bootloader like nandroid or clockwork mod installed (or are we waiting for these to be released) ?
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We are waiting.
What I typically do is create a folder /system/app-del/ and rather than deleting, I will move the apps to that folder. If the phone freaks out or something, I can quickly use adb to move them back and reboot the phone if needed. I also usually will back up the folder to the SD card before making changes just to be safe. Luckily, we have the Fascinate dump which can help us restore original files if needed.
I use Root Explorer, adb or Titanium Backup to move/remove/freeze apps. Here is my current list of apps I removed:
Code:
$ ls /sdcard/backup/app-del/
MobileAP.apk
MobileAP.odex
CityID_1.0.27_vzw.sch.i500_12118-release.apk
GlobalSearch.apk
GlobalSearch.odex
BuddiesNow.apk
BuddiesNow.odex
i500_411Search-debug_20100604_KST.apk
I500_MyVerizon_05202010.apk
NFSSInstallerSamsungEmbed_1.1.64.apk
Skype_mobile.1.0.0.19.live.apk
TetrisInstallerSamsungEMBED.apk
MyFiles.apk
MyFiles.odex
BackupAssistant.apk
BackupAssistant.odex
Blockbuster_Stub_v0_2_build_12-unsigned-signed.apk
CarHome.apk
CarHome.odex
Final_Schi500_3.0.3.3_07262010.apk
I500_BingSearchAndroid_07152010.apk
i500_VCASTTones_QA_060310_1436.apk
redding-7648-signed-zipped.apk
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock1.apk
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock1.odex
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock2.apk
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock2.odex
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock3.apk
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock3.odex
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock4.apk
SamsungWidget_AnalogClock4.odex
VCastMusic.apk
VCastVideo.apk
vnav_4.7.0.258_i500_rel_PROD_signed.apk
VSuiteApp.apk
VVMService.apk
VVMService.odex
Street.apk
Based on what I've read, I may add these apps back temporarily when the 2.2 OTA is pushed out to us just to be safe. I also like to remove apps that are available in the Market. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that once an app is updated via the Market, the old version in /system/app is ignored by the system and it goes off of the newer version in /data/app.
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What I typically do is create a folder /system/app-del/ and rather than deleting, I will move the apps to that folder. If the phone freaks out or something, I can quickly use adb to move them back and reboot the phone if needed. I also usually will back up the folder to the SD card before making changes just to be safe. Luckily, we have the Fascinate dump which can help us restore original files if needed.
I use Root Explorer, adb or Titanium Backup to move/remove/freeze apps. Here is a small unfinished list of apps I removed:
Code:
# cd /system/app-del
# ls -l
-rw-r--r-- root root 308579 2010-08-12 04:30 Blockbuster_Stub_v0_2_build_12-unsigned-signed.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 89373 2010-08-12 08:30 BackupAssistant.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 181496 2010-08-12 08:30 BackupAssistant.odex
-rw-r--r-- root root 296557 2010-08-12 08:30 BuddiesNow.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 79024 2010-08-12 08:30 BuddiesNow.odex
-rw-r--r-- root root 567236 2010-08-12 04:30 CityID_1.0.27_vzw.sch.i500_12118-release.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 45780 2010-08-12 08:30 i500_411Search-debug_20100604_KST.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 1150714 2010-08-12 04:30 I500_BingSearchAndroid_07152010.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 1206267 2010-08-12 04:30 I500_MyVerizon_05202010.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 1827308 2010-08-12 04:30 i500_VCASTTones_QA_060310_1436.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 1147181 2010-08-12 08:30 Skype_mobile.1.0.0.19.live.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 4360017 2010-08-12 04:30 VCastMusic.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 2361927 2010-08-12 04:30 VCastVideo.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 2302429 2010-08-12 04:30 vnav_4.7.0.258_i500_rel_PROD_signed.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 1039483 2010-08-12 04:30 VisualVoiceMail.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 271480 2010-08-12 04:30 VisualVoiceMail.odex
-rw-r--r-- root root 130669 2010-08-12 08:30 VisualizationWallpapers.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 29792 2010-08-12 08:30 VisualizationWallpapers.odex
-rw-r--r-- root root 57286 2010-08-12 04:30 VVMService.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 161200 2010-08-12 04:30 VVMService.odex
-rw-r--r-- root root 761981 2010-08-12 04:30 Dlna.apk
-rw-r--r-- root root 1333896 2010-08-12 08:30 Dlna.odex
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im wanting to remove sync service as i just want to use googles sync but had to use a friends computer for adb as i was having issues with mine, have you tried that app out?
bdube said:
im wanting to remove sync service as i just want to use googles sync but had to use a friends computer for adb as i was having issues with mine, have you tried that app out?
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Nah. I'm not removing much. Removing too much can break some things, so I'm being very cautious as I really, really like this phone and it does everything very well so far. If I'm not sure which .apk is what (such as Amazon - I didn't know which one that was by looking at the files), I'll use Titanium Backup which will show me the app icon and name. Then I'll uninstall from there.
Here is a list of the files I removed, so far:
CityID_1.0.27_vzw.sch.i500_12118-release.apk ---- CityID
i500_411Search-debug_20100604_KST.apk ---- 411 Search
I500_MyVerizon_05202010.apk ---- My Verizon app to access your account
I500_BingSearchAndroid_07152010.apk ---- BING
i500_VCASTTones_QA_060310_1436.apk ----VCast junk
NFSSInstallerSamsungEmbed_1.1.64.apk ---- NFS game/demo
redding-7648-signed-zipped.apk ---- Kindle app
Skype_mobile.1.0.0.19.live.apk ---- Skype
VCastMusic.apk ---- VCast Music
VCastVideo.apk ---- VCast Video
VisualVoiceMail.apk ---- Voicemail icon for Verizon's VVM
vnav_4.7.0.258_i500_rel_PROD_signed.apk ---- Verizon's VZNav
TetrisInstallerSamsungEMBED.apk ---- Tetris game
Blockbuster_Stub_v0_2_build_12-unsigned-signed.apk ---- Blockbuster app
Final_Schi500_3.0.3.3_07262010.apk ---- MobileIM
To be clear, when the word "Removed" is used, it's as in "renamed" or "deleted". You've not actually uninstalled the apps, right?
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To be clear, when the word "Removed" is used, it's as in "renamed" or "deleted". You've not actually uninstalled the apps, right?
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what I do is copy that file to the /sdcard location so I have a backup. Then the next thing I do is "rm FILENAME" so it deletes. At the end of everything I execute "sync"
Do NOT remove Backup Assistant. Your phone will not boot after you wipe it.
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Do NOT remove Backup Assistant. Your phone will not boot after you wipe it.
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What do you mean by "wipe it?" What exactly is "it?" I've removed it and my phone is working fine. If I could possibly be screwed in some way, id like to know how.
I've heard the sgs phones do not respond to well to removing touchwiz so I would leave that I read someone saying "I know you're very tempted to remove touchwiz but DO NOT DO IT" this was on I believe either the captivate or the vibrant not sure but I would advise just to get a 3rd party launcher and leave touchwiz alone.
my question is I performed a backup then uninstalled thru Titanium Backup, is there a way I can like copy/paste all those Verizon garbage programs (lol) into a file on my sd card for an unforeseen situation down the road to where I can just re-install them if needed
Can someone possibly post some of the removed apk's I ran into a situation which some may also run into.... I by defualt only had 1 backup allowed therefore when i individually backed up all the apk's I didnt want then un-installed, then performed a full backup it over-wrote my previous backup to the current full backup....!!!!
I read somewhere that you shouldnt un-install "back-up assistant" or the phone wont boot?? is this true? if so that was one of the apk's in my initial un-install that i can not restore!
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If someone can possibly post some verizon apk's that i can just save to my sd card that would be awesome
the following apk's are:
Kindle
Blockbuster
411 Search
NFS Shift
Tetris
InnoPath ActiveCare
Bing
VCast Videos
VCast Music
Backup Assistant
Desk Cradle
3G Mobile Hotspot
Write & Go
Buddies now
Daily Briefing
ThinkFree Office
MobileIM
VZ Navigator
VCast Tones
sorry for the above lengthy list...
Wait, so what does removing TouchWiz do? Take you back Android 2.1 vanilla?
no, probably potentially brick it because at the moment theres no recovery or custom roms to fall back on and touchwiz is still the main launcher
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Do NOT remove Backup Assistant. Your phone will not boot after you wipe it.
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what does one do if they have already deleted backup assistant? :/
You can pull the files from the Fascinate system dump. Put them on your SD card for archival purposes or use a file manager to put them back.
where is that at?
I have tried using ES File Explorer, Root Uninstaller & Titanium Backup. But they somehow just can't delete apps from the system dir.
ES can't set the RW on /system, neither can Root Uninstaller. And the Titanium "Force uninstall" method does not work either.
Any suggestions?
What apps are you trying to remove?
CMStats, Gallery3D.
Try using Root Explorer > System> Apps. When you get to the list of apps, change the mount to r/w instead of r/o. Now when you long press on the app you will get a series of options, including "delete".
I would not bother trying to uninstall any apps that come with CM7. Being on there does not hurt and uninstalling them can have negative consequences.
For those getting an insufficient storage error in the Google play store or when side loading, which only affects specific apps (not all apps, which has been discussed elsewhere) the following may work for you.
The error is caused by application data folders, which you will have to delete and then reinstall the app. Steps to fix are below:
1) Uninstall the app in the app manager
2) Using your favorite file explorer with root access navigate to /Data/app-lib/
3) Find the folder, which corresponds to the package you have having issues with (for instance com.adobe.reader-1 for adobe reader) and delete it
4) Reinstall from the android market
5) OPTIONAL - restore backup of your data from titanium backup.
Hopefully this will prevent you needing to reflash the ROM and format storage, which i was about to do before rooting around in the app-lib folder and noticing the folders for uninstalled apps that I could not re-install were still there.
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For those getting an insufficient storage error in the Google play store or when side loading, which only affects specific apps (not all apps, which has been discussed elsewhere) the following may work for you.
The error is caused by application data folders, which you will have to delete and then reinstall the app. Steps to fix are below:
1) Uninstall the app in the app manager
2) Using your favorite file explorer with root access navigate to /Data/app-lib/
3) Find the folder, which corresponds to the package you have having issues with (for instance com.adobe.reader-1 for adobe reader) and delete it
4) Reinstall from the android market
5) OPTIONAL - restore backup of your data from titanium backup.
Hopefully this will prevent you needing to reflash the ROM and format storage, which i was about to do before rooting around in the app-lib folder and noticing the folders for uninstalled apps that I could not re-install were still there.
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Many thanks , cause i,ve tried everyhting, lucky patcher, clear devil-cache, system-cache, clear market , everything, but this solutions was the only one that works. Now i can install the app
The real problem is a permissions issue. There's a more elegant solution which doesn't involve deleting a folder nor deinstalling an app.
a) With your favorite terminal program navigate to /data/app-lib (/data, not /Data, case is very important). I do this from my Linux box, accessing the phone remotely with the help of SSHDroid.
b) Then, do an "ls -la" to see the files inside this directory along with their permissions. In my case, I see this:
Code:
/data/data/berserker.android.apps.sshdroid/home # cd /data/app-lib
/data/app-lib # ls -la
total 1089
drwxrwx--x 135 system system 8192 Mar 26 17:11 .
drwxrwx--x 25 system system 4096 Mar 26 22:55 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Feb 18 17:28 ND.filter-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 4 17:20 aolmo.WifiCrackWLAN-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 26 08:06 at.sapps.applauncherdashclockextension-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Feb 26 19:18 berserker.android.apps.ftpdroid-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 10 08:25 berserker.android.apps.sshdroid-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 10 08:26 berserker.android.apps.webdroid-1
...
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 21 22:55 pl.baggus.barometr-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 16 21:08 robj.any.dash-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 8 16:21 ru.gloom.SMSExtension-1
drwxr-xr-x 2 system system 4096 Mar 2 19:10 stericson.busybox-2
As you can see, every folder belongs to system:system and has the "drwxr-xr-x" permissions. If, for whatever reason, the folder corresponding to the non-working app looked different, the fix is easy:
1) If it had a different user or group, run this command:
Code:
chown -R system:system [I]name.of.the.folder[/I]
2) If it had different permissions, run this command:
Code:
chmod -R 755 [I]name.of.the.folder[/I]
That's it!
Of course, if the problem lies inside a folder other than /data/app-lib, just navigate to the corresponding folder
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This may work for some people, usually when there is a .odex file left over from some previous processes. For me it did not work, which is why I had to do it the way I posted in the OP.
Just clear data
None of the above worked for me. I saw on another site to go in the App Manager (Settings > Apps) and "clear data" for the troubled app(s). This worked for me.
Dav_prime said:
For those getting an insufficient storage error in the Google play store or when side loading, which only affects specific apps (not all apps, which has been discussed elsewhere) the following may work for you.
The error is caused by application data folders, which you will have to delete and then reinstall the app. Steps to fix are below:
1) Uninstall the app in the app manager
2) Using your favorite file explorer with root access navigate to /Data/app-lib/
3) Find the folder, which corresponds to the package you have having issues with (for instance com.adobe.reader-1 for adobe reader) and delete it
4) Reinstall from the android market
5) OPTIONAL - restore backup of your data from titanium backup.
Hopefully this will prevent you needing to reflash the ROM and format storage, which i was about to do before rooting around in the app-lib folder and noticing the folders for uninstalled apps that I could not re-install were still there.
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well.... there's a problem for me, i open up /data, but /app-lib is missing
terrybear2k said:
well.... there's a problem for me, i open up /data, but /app-lib is missing
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Which /data directory are you in? Did you navigate up to root first?
Good looks! Gonna try this next time I get a 'insufficient storage' message.
Dav_prime said:
Which /data directory are you in? Did you navigate up to root first?
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i guess its root, the content is different from my sdcard's, (eg. acct, app-cache, cache, config, data, dev) with es file explorer. but then i use sd-maid, i can see the contents inside "data". guess es stopped 1/2 of the support for browsing root folders?? weird... but still, when using sd-maid the app-lib still missing. i can see "anr, app, app-asec, app-private, audio"
Dav_prime said:
Which /data directory are you in? Did you navigate up to root first?
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I also do not have /data/app-lib, and I'm certain I nav'd up to root first. any suggestions would be most welcome. I'm unable to install *any* new app, either from Play, or as a side-load.
tia, RA
rrtid54 said:
I also do not have /data/app-lib, and I'm certain I nav'd up to root first. any suggestions would be most welcome. I'm unable to install *any* new app, either from Play, or as a side-load.
tia, RA
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found a fix that worked for me, and others here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32155340&postcount=12
Yeah there are a lot of causes for these errors so this may not be the fix you need.
I have the app-lib folder on my nexus4 running stock 4.4.
What devices and roms are you running?
Dav_prime said:
Yeah there are a lot of causes for these errors so this may not be the fix you need.
I have the app-lib folder on my nexus4 running stock 4.4.
What devices and roms are you running?
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thanks for the reply. device is a VZW Galaxy S3, rooted but stock ROM, 4.1.2. 'link2sd' worked to correct the problem.
be well, RA
I recently started having this problem with hangouts and Google drive, and I can't find the corresponding folders in my app-lib folder. Anyone know where google stores those files?
cliffyb said:
I recently started having this problem with hangouts and Google drive, and I can't find the corresponding folders in my app-lib folder. Anyone know where google stores those files?
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Look in /system/app
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jd1639 said:
Look in /system/app
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I found the hangouts apk in /system/app/ but deleting that just uninstalls hangouts, and attempting to reinstall just gives me the insufficient space message again
cliffyb said:
I found the hangouts apk in /system/app/ but deleting that just uninstalls hangouts, and attempting to reinstall just gives me the insufficient space message again
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I would try flashing the cache.img from the factory image in fastboot
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OK, thanks dav_prime. /data/app-lib worked like a charm. I used root explorer and instead of fishing through things I deleted the whole file. Reinstalled from play store no error message.
Dav_prime said:
For those getting an insufficient storage error in the Google play store or when side loading, which only affects specific apps (not all apps, which has been discussed elsewhere) the following may work for you.
The error is caused by application data folders, which you will have to delete and then reinstall the app. Steps to fix are below:
1) Uninstall the app in the app manager
2) Using your favorite file explorer with root access navigate to /Data/app-lib/
3) Find the folder, which corresponds to the package you have having issues with (for instance com.adobe.reader-1 for adobe reader) and delete it
4) Reinstall from the android market
5) OPTIONAL - restore backup of your data from titanium backup.
Hopefully this will prevent you needing to reflash the ROM and format storage, which i was about to do before rooting around in the app-lib folder and noticing the folders for uninstalled apps that I could not re-install were still there.
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Thanks!
Dav_prime said:
For those getting an insufficient storage error in the Google play store or when side loading, which only affects specific apps (not all apps, which has been discussed elsewhere) the following may work for you.
The error is caused by application data folders, which you will have to delete and then reinstall the app. Steps to fix are below:
1) Uninstall the app in the app manager
2) Using your favorite file explorer with root access navigate to /Data/app-lib/
3) Find the folder, which corresponds to the package you have having issues with (for instance com.adobe.reader-1 for adobe reader) and delete it
4) Reinstall from the android market
5) OPTIONAL - restore backup of your data from titanium backup.
Hopefully this will prevent you needing to reflash the ROM and format storage, which i was about to do before rooting around in the app-lib folder and noticing the folders for uninstalled apps that I could not re-install were still there.
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Very Helpful! Thanks a lot!
--Rafael
Would you tell me if I install a root required app as system app,will it work without root i.e. after unrooting or not? Thanks in advance :good:
Alan0101 said:
Would you tell me if I install a root required app as system app,will it work without root i.e. after unrooting or not? Thanks in advance :good:
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No never bro either it is installed as system app or user app, if it requires root permission then it always requires root permission independent upon is it system app or an user app.
I have seen that system pannel app works fully when installed on nougat as system app but does not work fully when installed as user app it asks for adb or rooting to work fully.
Hmm, interesting. I think it might work. I am not rooted now. But try this.
- First, root your Droid flashing Magisk.
- Install LSpeed from Play Store.
- Install Titanium backup and from there turn LSpeed into system app.
- Then uninstall root by flashing this on Magisk
- Reboot and check if LSpeed is working.
I am curious about this as well! Thanks for asking!
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hackermssharma said:
No never bro either it is installed as system app or user app, if it requires root permission then it always requires root permission independent upon is it system app or an user app.
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Question :- Don't the system apps have access to the ROOT directory of Android??
SuvamLP4549 said:
Hmm, interesting. I think it might work. I am not rooted now. But try this.
- First, root your Droid flashing Magisk.
- Install LSpeed from Play Store.
- Install Titanium backup and from there turn LSpeed into system app.
- Then uninstall root by flashing this on Magisk
- Reboot and check if LSpeed is working.
I am curious about this as well! Thanks for asking!
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Question :- Don't the system apps have access to the ROOT directory of Android??
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U should try I am sure this will not work
I have had the Oneplus 5 for many years. After each update of OxygenOS I uninstalled some system apps (Chrome Google Photos, Gmail, Google Movies etc) in Solid Explorer (with root access).
But, since the update to OxygenOS 10.0.0 with Android 10 this does not work anymore. Solid Explorer says that the app has been deleted, but after a reboot it is still there.
When I try to uninstall one of the apps with Titanium Backup, the message "Cannot remove system app. Failed to locate the apk file."
Does anyone have an idea how to permanently uninstall and delete system apps?
Thanks!
Berta Paneslowski said:
I have had the Oneplus 5 for many years. After each update of OxygenOS I uninstalled some system apps (Chrome Google Photos, Gmail, Google Movies etc) in Solid Explorer (with root access).
But, since the update to OxygenOS 10.0.0 with Android 10 this does not work anymore. Solid Explorer says that the app has been deleted, but after a reboot it is still there.
When I try to uninstall one of the apps with Titanium Backup, the message "Cannot remove system app. Failed to locate the apk file."
Does anyone have an idea how to permanently uninstall and delete system apps?
Thanks!
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On Android 10 it's not possible anymore to delete system apps directly from OS, even with root access. You must use Titanium for show the path of apps you want deleted, system apps are located on :
system/system/app
system/system/priv-app
Go in recovery TWRP
> mount Cache, System, Vendor, Persist, Data, Firmware partitions
> Advanced > File Manager > system/system/priv-app/Gmail > "Folder" button on right bottom > Delete
Do the same thing for all apps that you want deleted.
Actually,it does get deleted from a root explorer, however, few apps have symlinks as well, or few apps have stubs as well. Hence those may invoke reinstallation automatically. Those are the ones which need to be deleted permanently from recovery (especially).
As you have discovered, several apk files are system linked and so every reboot will bring them back. To counter this I use the xXx debloat script. The module is flashed in Magisk and allows one to select which apps and services you want removed. Here is a link to the module on xda: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=82391573&postcount=2.
You can flash the module with stock settings or make a custom profile as I did.
I have a question or two...
1) Is it ok to convert Chrome and Google Maps from system to user apps in android 10?
2) Will first deleting the app using TWRP, then install it from Playstore convert the app from a system to a user app?