I love my Archos 70 IT, and I'm really impressed by the great multimedia players Archos included. I've been using the video function to browse my local network for SMB shares - I have a 1.5TB NAS storage appliance loaded with TV shows, music and movies. I open the NAS over SMB and can stream videos great. However, a lot of my library is in 720p quality. These files play fine for about 1 minute, then get very choppy.
I haven't yet attempted to copy a 720p video to the Archos locally to see if it will play smoothly. I suspect it will, since it plays just fine for a minute or more in most cases. I think the network buffer is running low. If I pause the video for 5 seconds then resume, it plays smoothly for a few more seconds before getting choppy again. But pausing it for longer doesn't seem to help any more.
I don't see any options in the app to change the buffer length or anything like that. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can improve hi-res network video playback?
Note: I'm using an 802.11g wireless network with the Archos about 5 feet from the WAP. No signal strength issues.
Even with a regular PC or laptop, it's kind of iffy for me to stream 720P consistently. While in theory, a WiFi G connection is supposed to be 54 Mbps, in reality, it's often a lot lower due to interference from other WiFi radios. Where I live there are a dozen WiFi radios that show up when I do a scan. What's amazing is that one or two of them are stronger than my wireless router a few feet away. Who are these people?!
Bye.
Ha, thanks for the response. I can definitely stream 720p to my laptop successfully. The radio in the Archos might not be able to keep up though. Dunno. In any case, some sort of buffer options would help!
sprocket87 said:
I love my Archos 70 IT, and I'm really impressed by the great multimedia players Archos included. I've been using the video function to browse my local network for SMB shares - I have a 1.5TB NAS storage appliance loaded with TV shows, music and movies. I open the NAS over SMB and can stream videos great. However, a lot of my library is in 720p quality. These files play fine for about 1 minute, then get very choppy.
I haven't yet attempted to copy a 720p video to the Archos locally to see if it will play smoothly. I suspect it will, since it plays just fine for a minute or more in most cases. I think the network buffer is running low. If I pause the video for 5 seconds then resume, it plays smoothly for a few more seconds before getting choppy again. But pausing it for longer doesn't seem to help any more.
I don't see any options in the app to change the buffer length or anything like that. Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can improve hi-res network video playback?
Note: I'm using an 802.11g wireless network with the Archos about 5 feet from the WAP. No signal strength issues.
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The fact that it plays ok at first, then gets choppy indicates that you're playing through the contents of the buffer faster than it can be replenished by the network stream. A bigger buffer would make it play longer, but it would still run out. Picture a bucket with a hole in it. If you don't fill it faster than it drains out the hole, it will eventually be empty, no matter how big the bucket. Pausing is like putting your finger in the hole. It lets it refill, but it can only get so full. Pull out you finger and it starts draining again. The only solution is a bigger hose or a smaller hole
I too get the choppiness when streaming via smb. But I have put a 6gb 720p movie on my A70S, and it too gets choppy. This was with 2.1.4. AND with the newer 2.1.8. so then I fully restored the device to increase the swap file, and it's not any better. Now im rooted using archangel, and used setcpu to keep the cpu maxed, but not any better than it was.
btw, i used the archos video splitter app to get such a big file on there.
Even 1.5gb 720p cartoons act up, i get the video falling behind when there is alot of motion. I'm hopeful it will get better!
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I too get the choppiness when streaming via smb. But I have put a 6gb 720p movie on my A70S, and it too gets choppy. This was with 2.1.4. AND with the newer 2.1.8. so then I fully restored the device to increase the swap file, and it's not any better. Now im rooted using archangel, and used setcpu to keep the cpu maxed, but not any better than it was.
btw, i used the archos video splitter app to get such a big file on there.
Even 1.5gb 720p cartoons act up, i get the video falling behind when there is alot of motion. I'm hopeful it will get better!
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Did you put the movie on your SD card? How fast is your SD card? Try moving it to internal memory and playing it from there.
Yes, i forgot to mention that. I tried it first on the SD card, still crap. Put it on the internal memory, still just as bad. I did think that doing so would fix it, but, no dice. unfortunately.
Of course you should be able to play a 720P video from inside your Archos cleanly. By any chance is the video encoded at a high bit rate, like maybe 10 Mbps? I have a bunch of videos I can play fine on mine, however, I encoded them at maybe 2 - 4 Mbps. The specs for your Archos says:
Video Playback1 • MPEG-42 HD (up to 720p, 30 [email protected])
• MPEG-42 ([email protected] AVI, up to DVD resolution, 30 [email protected])
• H.264 HD ([email protected] up to 720p, 30 [email protected])
• WMV9/VC1 (AP up to 720p 30 [email protected])
• M-JPEG (Motion JPEG Video) in VGA resolution
With optional plug-in (downloadable on www.archos.com):
• Cinema: MPEG-2 (up to DVD resolution MP/D1, 30 [email protected] Mbps)
With the above codecs, the device can play video files with the following extensions: AVI, MP4, MKV, MOV, WMV, MPG, PS, TS, VOB, FLV, RM, RMVB, ASF, 3GP
Are you well within these requirements? A PC or laptop can usually go way past this.
Bye.
One of the files is 720p avc1 dts at 6425 Mbps, and 4.38 gb. I'll have to check the other files when I get home. But that's not too high quality is it?
No, but if these are Animes the chance is high that they are encoded with "to many" b-frames.
The Archos allows [email protected] most new HD Animes are encoded as [email protected] which has way to many B-Frames for the small buffer on the DSP.
I think you are pushing it on the bit rate. I have tried encoding at various bit rates and quite frankly, encoding at 2 Mbps is good enough visually on an A101. I suggest Handbrake to re-encode down to 2 - 4 Mbps.
Bye.
creationblur said:
One of the files is 720p avc1 dts at 6425 Mbps, and 4.38 gb. I'll have to check the other files when I get home. But that's not too high quality is it?
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I agree, but we shouldn't have to, ya know!?!
You read my answer?
And if grandma had wheels she'd be a streetcar.
Handbrake is my friend.
Bye.
creationblur said:
I agree, but we shouldn't have to, ya know!?!
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Yes yes, I did. BUT...
And wasn't the new firmware supposed to make these higher profile files play better??
wish in one hand....
No.
The decoding of highbitrate files within the specs is better now.
"One of the files is 720p avc1 dts at 6425 Mbps, and 4.38 gb."
avc1 == H.264 and if you look into the specs, there it says -> H.264 HD ([email protected] up to 720p, 30 [email protected])
So you are allready above what the DSP ( the VideoCoProcessor in the Chip ) can handle.
And then normally these type of files have variable bitrate and can go up to 20MBit.
And if then these files have more then the allowed 5 B-Frames the dsp just pukes.
So did anything ever come of this?
I'm having the same issue with the latest firmware (2.3.20).
Being able to increase the buffer and waiting a few minutes before watching something would be a whole lot better than copying the entire thing or just sticking to SD.
Hi,
I have been trying to watch videos streamed from my PC to my tablet but so far I have had little success...
I am using MX Player Pro to watch videos and ES Explorer to access my PC contents. I have no problems with opening any files including videos and streaming of small files (~300MB movies) works perfectly. The problem is - I would like to watch my Blu-Ray and DVD rips, which are 10GB +. Alas, in this case, it buffers 1 second of movie per 20 seconds in real life. It is unwatchable.
So, the question is - how I could I speed it up? The signal is full (I run the tests with PC and Nexus next to my router, Netgear), the PC has all other connections turned off (mail/browser, antivirus updates etc. all turned off) though it shows the connection speed of only ~80-120Mbps. I guess I am lacking ideas...
Thank you for help,
Theriel
theriel said:
Hi,
I have been trying to watch videos streamed from my PC to my tablet but so far I have had little success...
I am using MX Player Pro to watch videos and ES Explorer to access my PC contents. I have no problems with opening any files including videos and streaming of small files (~300MB movies) works perfectly. The problem is - I would like to watch my Blu-Ray and DVD rips, which are 10GB +. Alas, in this case, it buffers 1 second of movie per 20 seconds in real life. It is unwatchable.
So, the question is - how I could I speed it up? The signal is full (I run the tests with PC and Nexus next to my router, Netgear), the PC has all other connections turned off (mail/browser, antivirus updates etc. all turned off) though it shows the connection speed of only ~80-120Mbps. I guess I am lacking ideas...
Thank you for help,
Theriel
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Are your computer connected through wireless? If streaming BR movies you need a lot of bandwith which maybe you won't get if you have a bad wifi connection.
theriel said:
Hi,
I have been trying to watch videos streamed from my PC to my tablet but so far I have had little success...
I am using MX Player Pro to watch videos and ES Explorer to access my PC contents. I have no problems with opening any files including videos and streaming of small files (~300MB movies) works perfectly. The problem is - I would like to watch my Blu-Ray and DVD rips, which are 10GB +. Alas, in this case, it buffers 1 second of movie per 20 seconds in real life. It is unwatchable.
So, the question is - how I could I speed it up? The signal is full (I run the tests with PC and Nexus next to my router, Netgear), the PC has all other connections turned off (mail/browser, antivirus updates etc. all turned off) though it shows the connection speed of only ~80-120Mbps. I guess I am lacking ideas...
Thank you for help,
Theriel
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Have you tried VLC player? Don't know if it will help with your problem. I'll be getting my N10 tonight, so I'll be checking on that aspect of it for sure.
Hi i have just purchased my Nexus 10 and installed XBMC, the installation went fine and i have set up my movie share from my pc but when i try to stream 720p mkv movies through XBMC the video is all juddery
Is there anyway to fix this please
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Hi i have just purchased my Nexus 10 and installed XBMC, the installation went fine and i have set up my movie share from my pc but when i try to stream 720p mkv movies through XBMC the video is all juddery
Is there anyway to fix this please
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There are a few options.
- Google to find XBMC variants that includes HW acceleration
- Install a Plex server and app combo. It will transcode your 720p videos on the fly but the interface is very nice and supports many back end OSes
Be aware that the shutter via WiFi may be simply that the video bitrate is higher than your WiFi supports (consistently)
My personal set up to get reliable playback well away from my router is not for the faint of heart but I will mention it none the less.
Backed server:
- Ubuntu with a Web server
- Python script that creates Web pages of my video collection with metadata from MythVideo database
N10 apps:
- MX Player
- Boat Browser
N10 HW:
- micro USB OTG cable
- USB Gigabit Ethernet adapter
- Gigabit Powerline adapters connecting router to backroom
I did warn you it was extreme but it works without issues day in and day out even with 1080p content.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app
This is the best explanation i have had, thankyou very much
Hi guys,
finally some weeks ago Nexus Player was officialy released in my country (Italy): low price and official Nexus product suggest me to turn it into my personal media center. I'm using an old i3 notebook running Kodi, but i prefer something more compact, less loudly and with a dedicated remote: Nexus Player seems to have all these features, but searching on the net i'm not sure if it can play H265 smoothly.
Tipically all my media files are on a hd connected to my router and trough samba Kodi search on it: 99% of my files are 720P X265 (tv-show), 1% 1080p X265.
I don't care about 4k.
Someone can confirm that 720P/1080P x265 are smooth on Kodi-Nexus Player?
Thank you so much, sorry for my bad english
BYE!!!
Yes, I am able to stream to kodi and plex 1080p X265 files without issue. Even my larger (+10gb) files stream without buffering. That said, my NP is 5 feet from my router, so there's no interference.
Very good, i have tv on the same room of my router, so no interferences in my case too
Thank you metaljr81, can you tell me what have you installed?
Kodi X86 or ARM? Stock Rom? some tricks?
THanks!!
You need the x86 builds of kodi. I'd recommend joining the Kodi Alpha testing community to get the latest. Or you can do the nightlies from kodi.tv if you prefer the manual method.
CM12.1 here, but not necessary for kodi unless you use external storage for your NP.
Add fusion.tvaddons.ag to your file manager sources for all the good add-ons.
quality
metaljr81 said:
Yes, I am able to stream to kodi and plex 1080p X265 files without issue. Even my larger (+10gb) files stream without buffering. That said, my NP is 5 feet from my router, so there's no interference.
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are these files you've downloaded in x265 or ones you've converted yourself? only ask because when I try HEVC files on my nexus player, it shows some pretty nasty artifacting that i don't see on my laptop or desktop. as far as I've seen, the nexus player has to SW decode, so router proximity shouldn't affect the playback on small files should it?