Same old blah blah, carriers are bad/holding back android/adding bloat/etc.
I just got my hands on a decrypted 339 update, did anyone notice that it was android 2.2.1? With it being launched simultaniously with 340 it wasn't given much attention since At&t users are more vocal than rogers users (or something)
Breakdown:
Oct 22 -> 305 (Unlocked 2.2)
Feb 8 -> 340 (at&t 2.2)
Feb 10 -> 339 (Rogers 2.2.1)
Feb 11 -> 341 (AWS 2.2.2)
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Feb 21 -> 344 (Softbank 2.2.1)
The breakdown pretty much explains itself. It took months for 340 to come out and it didnt get 2.2.1. 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 are stability/security updates, not feature updates. So it matters which you have.
The biggest mistake Dell made with streak release was to have it tied to ATT in US.
I am an ATT user , but just hated how ATT went about it . Its not even available in their website...
My guess is that they are still testing to see if they will offer it through their portal/site. I'm with att also.... well until May 15, 2011 when the legacy/old blue side (att wireless mmode) gets cut for the 4g network when it goes live.
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Carriers such as AT&T are well known by that,they cripple phones and hold them back.They do the same even with the iphone.
Carriers cripple, hold back the potential of phones, in hopes that you will buy into their "this new model fixes that" BS. So far, it appears the masses are buying into it. iPhone, iPhone2,3,4,5
Until Google puts it foot down, and controls the releases of software, it will continue.
Dell deserves the brunt of the blame for availability of this device. Apparently they think they can sell smartphones direct from their website.
Are you really going to basically blame each carrier for the Streaks shortcomings? Dell doesnt have experience in the the smartphone game. Isn't that the bigger issue?
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I agree the problem lies with Dell as well.
Sure, ATT isn't helping things, what with the ATT stores not even knowing this thing exists... but Dell marketing is almost non existent.
Getting past the fact that they call it a tablet and market it as a tablet and then do nothing to raise consumer's awareness of its existence, they really need to market it as a phone. And, they need to actually pop a buck or two to that end.
I've sold at least 5 of these things just using it in the last 3 months day to day. And, like all of the other Streak users, I'm sure, I get no end of "is that your phone?" comments or "wow that's big". No one knows this thing exists. Heck, I'm a phone geek from way back, and until my girlfriend found it at Best Buy I didn't know it existed and we almost ended up with WinMo7 phones.
Dell needs to pick it up on the marketing side of things. If they do, ATT will be forced to acknowledge its existence and support will increase.
If you go into the bestbuy mobile in our mall, the streak is up front with the tablets and not in the att section of phones.
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AWS 2.2.2
Will the AWS 2.2.2 work with an AT&T Streak?
I recently purchased and received my Dell Streak through AmazonWireless. I recently updated to the AT&T 2.2
Currently, I have:
Android version
2.2
Baseband Version
GAUSB1A134031-US
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9-perf
OEM Version
GAUSB1A134031
Build Number
14844
I am curious if the new version AWS 2.2.2 is worth loading, or if I should hold out. Based on what I've read, AWS 2.2.2 is generally available, but is not being published to AT&T subscribers (and others). Is that correct?
Eribos said:
Will the AWS 2.2.2 work with an AT&T Streak?
I recently purchased and received my Dell Streak through AmazonWireless. I recently updated to the AT&T 2.2
Currently, I have:
Android version
2.2
Baseband Version
GAUSB1A134031-US
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9-perf
OEM Version
GAUSB1A134031
Build Number
14844
I am curious if the new version AWS 2.2.2 is worth loading, or if I should hold out. Based on what I've read, AWS 2.2.2 is generally available, but is not being published to AT&T subscribers (and others). Is that correct?
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Yes it works perfectly well with at&t, only thing is there is no one as of this time who is able fo root 345 2.2.2
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I was just at best buy about 1/2 hour ago and I looked at the streak. It was the first time I've seen one in person. I was very intrigued until I noticed that it was running ****ing Donut.
nerdtaco said:
I was just at best buy about 1/2 hour ago and I looked at the streak. It was the first time I've seen one in person. I was very intrigued until I noticed that it was running ****ing Donut.
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There's an update once u buy it. Nobody should be on donut anymore.
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nerdtaco said:
I was just at best buy about 1/2 hour ago and I looked at the streak. It was the first time I've seen one in person. I was very intrigued until I noticed that it was running ****ing Donut.
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No more donuts anymore,now every device is running at least 2.2.Also go to dell.com maybe their prices are better than at Best Buy besides that the devices will be unlocked and no AT&T crap,that's what I did,and ended up paying $434 vs $546.
Best Buy Employees told me they may not be getting anymore stock of the Streak in. Its not able to be ordered in their system, and they are not going to replenish accessories either.
Don't know if its true. I am sure Dell has some Streaks left, but how many?
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Why the delay?? Just as was the case with the Motorola Backflip, the little people at AT&T are busy crippling the Streak and adding their UI changes and their bloatware/crapware.
They promised Backflip purchasers an early update from 1.3x, guess how that has turned out. The UI and other changes done by the AT&T gnomes make the update much, much harder.
What is seldom mentioned is that with adding these changes to the Streak will also make it harder and harder to later do FROYO. Maybe impossible! Buttons are already non-standard right out of the box. Add the UI and the crapware.....
We should start a pool, whoever can guess the month and year you can get your Streak OTA to FROYO or GINGERBREAD gets a free HTC android phone with the latest upgrades Factory installed and de-bugged.
Knowing all this already, looks like AT&T has done a deal so that, at least initially, the've axed T-Mobile and there will be no direct competitive Dell sales of unlocked and uncrippled Streaks.
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Knowing all this already, looks like AT&T has done a deal so that, at least initially, the've axed T-Mobile and there will be no direct competitive Dell sales of unlocked and uncrippled Streaks.
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Interesting, and I'll take 03 '12 for the pool
Any source on the "...no direct competitive Dell sales..."?
I Hope I am wrong on that but during the short history of Android on AT&T no manufacturer of any device sold by AT&T has at the same time sold it directly unlocked. Nor during that same period, has AT&T ever provided an upgrade to any of its Android phones. History has a way of repeating itself. Again, maybe this is the dawn of a new era. I hope AT&T and Dell are listening.
Apple likewise does not sell the IPhone direct and unlocked. Go figure!
As Apple has repeatedly warned this week, if you own an unlocked Iphone, it is not in warranty. That is now true of AT&T Android phones is it not?
I hope you're wrong too
My initial (gut reation) thoughts were towards 2 recent items, 1) the ruling that thou shalt not lock thy devices, and 2) Dell seems to be committed to direct sales of their devices and doing so unlocked.
However, these idealological thoughts aside, you're right, recent history doesn't support my dreams.
So dell streak is now available in the US, any evo users been able to play with one (uk version been out a while) or considering switching?
Nope under contract. Its another 9 months before I can get another phone.
The Dell Streak is very enticing, I would love to see one and play around with it for a while. The two drawback in my mind are pocket-ability and that it's only running Android 1.6. The UK version is on 2.1, so there is good hope they'll have 2.1 updates for the US version shortly.
In conclusion, I don't see myself trading the HTC Evo in for a Dell Streak, however, I'm intrigued by it's hardware. HTC Evo makes for a well rounded, every day device and I see potential issues with the Dell Streak making it as an every day use device/cell phone.
Hay, I just checked for updates using my streak and got a n 404 error. Maybe they are getting ready to release 2.2 of course they may also be cancelling support for the Streak.
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hmm.. Maybe, but I wouldn't your breath just yet. similar thing happened when 2.2 was released for O2 and unlocked devices. The landing page changed, but the update wasn't pushed till about a week later.
also this is a bit too close for "a couple weeks" as dell/att stated
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I just talked with a rep at the local at&t store. He said that the upgrade will happen in February, and that the stores are now providing training on the upgrade to their sales people.
I have a feeling it will be released around the same time as the Dell Streak 7 which is suppose to be around the corner. I am sure they share the same Dell Stage UI on 2.2.
Keep our fingers crossed it is soon... tired of this 1.6 slow thing...
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I just talked with a rep at the local at&t store. He said that the upgrade will happen in February, and that the stores are now providing training on the upgrade to their sales people.
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That sounds like bull because the update is supose to be sent directly to your phone all you have to do is download it and run it. You dont need training for that. If you can read and follow directions anyone should be able to do it
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Rogers update page changed today too; from a generic Dell "phone is up to date" to an actual Rogers branded upgrade page, the message was still the same.. something like "rofl, can't believe you bought at 1.6 device... we pwned you!" or the sort
eddyboat2002 said:
That sounds like bull because the update is supose to be sent directly to your phone all you have to do is download it and run it. You dont need training for that. If you can read and follow directions anyone should be able to do it
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Given the number of threads on modaco about updates going wrong etc, training is probably quite a good idea! But I imagine what they mean is training on how to use the Streak with 2.2 installed, given the big changes that have happened to the ui in the update.
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Froyo OTA update for AT&T-locked Dell Streak expected on February 1st
What I read at streaksmart.com
Froyo OTA update for AT&T-locked Dell Streak expected on February 1st
Why wait? Flash it now. Lol!
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The training they are referring to is training for the new features for the sales reps in the stores.
Feb 2 is the release date for the Dell Streak 7 and if is released with Android 2.1, 2.2 or 2.3, I would guess that the upgrade for the
Dell Streak 5 would be released as well.
Training??????????? Most the people that work in att store dont even know what a dell streak is
carhigh said:
Training??????????? Most the people that work in att store dont even know what a dell streak is
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Do they even sell the Streak in their stores? We lease space to an ATT store and the only Dell-branded product I've seen there was a 3G netbook.
Att does not sell the streak. Bestbuy has exclusivity on selling it. Like I said, att sales reps in the stores have no idea what the streak is
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lol..I went to the AT&T store yesterday to pay my bill and the service representative came up to me and asked what am I holding. I told him it was a Dell Streak and he asked me from which provider I go through. I said AT&T and he was just dumbfounded. Lol they really have no idea what the Streak is.
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AT&T DJ_Steve STREAKDROID v1.6.1
******Superuser Rooted*******
stormtrooper1 said:
lol..I went to the AT&T store yesterday to pay my bill and the service representative came up to me and asked what am I holding. I told him it was a Dell Streak and he asked me from which provider I go through. I said AT&T and he was just dumbfounded. Lol they really have no idea what the Streak is.
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AT&T DJ_Steve STREAKDROID v1.6.1
******Superuser Rooted*******
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I went to the AT&T store to look at a Streak, and the Rep had to ask another Rep, who asked another Rep, who asked a manager what a Streak was. The Manager said they don't sell it, they you had to either go online to AT&T or Best Buy to get one. They were half right because you can't buy them from AT&T online either.
i was on the phone with a rogers retention manager because they messed up my bill after i got the streak. the rep didnt know what a streak was either but at least she was smart enough to say she wanted one after she looked it up
Training store saletrons?
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Training??????????? Most the people that work in att store dont even know what a dell streak is
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Well, perhaps training on 2.2 since some of their phones may eventually have it. I sincerely doubt that it's training on the Dell Streak.
Of course, who would believe a saletron from an AT&T store? It's almost as bad as those idiots that say "well a Best Buy saletron said the Froyo update to the Streak is coming out on February 1."
A Feb. 1 release date of the update was just confirmed to me by a Best Buy employee and it also was in an employee newsletter! Woohoo!!!!!
Yeeeesss!
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Good Luck.. These people in best buy and reps on the phones know absolute poppycock as to when it will be released.
I hope for you that it is released, or you can easily use the qdl to get to froyo now.
Interested to see what is in the new build though.
Well it wouldnt hurt to wait another day. But if it doesnt come tomrrow then qdl it.
Been enjoying 2.2 since the second day I had my Streak thanks to the helpful people here at xda.
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Seems Best Buy got snookered along with the rest of us....
well.. kinda thought I would be right about this....
Best Buy... ATT Phone reps... Your local Radioshack guy...
KNOW JACK **** ABOUT ANY RELEASE DATES FOR UPDATES.
You can't even trust twitter updates from the companies either. You have three options..
1. Use QDL tool to go to Froyo now.
2. Sit and wait it out until it is released
3. Get another device that has froyo or later.
The worst part about streak owners not updating via QDL is that the software is NOT BETA... they are fully tested OEM unlocked roms!
When i was with the captivate, the cookers were hacking pieces together from 4-5 different froyo roms from different phones.. and it was still not as stable as the streak.
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A Feb. 1 release date of the update was just confirmed to me by a Best Buy employee and it also was in an employee newsletter! Woohoo!!!!!
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P. S. - Update on the update (2/2) - An AT&T rep was in the Best Buy store that I just visited. Another BB employee confirmed
yesterday (2/1) as the day the rollout started. Just then an AT&T rep walked into the store and the BB employee asked him "what's the story on the update for the Streak"? The AT&T rep verified that it was supposed to have started on 2/1 and he has not heard anything to the contrary.
Froyo Update not released on Feb 1 as I reported!
Crap!!! I spoke to Dell yesterday and they said the announcement about the Froyo update for
Feb 1 were wrong. They are still working on it!
Oh, well. I been snookered!
Oh give me a break. Att Rep, bestbuy employee bull****. It doesn't matter what they tell you. The have no clue about anything.
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When I had my Streak warrantied out, (back in late november) they told me there was an update coming, I replied "I know there is, I'm already running froyo" lol, the rep didn't seem to care.
This just makes me angry. Galaxy S 4G is getting an update to Gingerbread via Kies:
WHERE IS OUR UPDATE??????????
Do you think this update will help Vibrant development at all? Maybe Gingerbread GPS drivers can be pulled from it and work on our phone? 911 calling issue fix?
"Beginning November 15, a software update will be available for the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. The update will upgrade the device to Android 2.3./Software version T959VUVKJ6.
Devices upgrading to Android 2.3./Software version T959VUVKJ6 will benefit from various improvements based on customer feedback.
Devices upgrading to T959VUVKJ6 will benefit from:
Android 2.3(Gingerbread)
Google Security Patch
Camera enhancements
Wi-Fi enhancements
Note: The upgrade to KJ6 is NOT required. You may opt out of the upgrade and continue using software version T959VUVKD1.
Important:
This upgrade will not be sent to devices Over the Air (OTA / FOTA) - Instead, you must install the upgrade by connecting your Galaxy S 4G to a PC using Samsung Kies Mini software. "
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1810
Yup. It pissed me off too when I read it. I'm hoping that we can benefit from this update. The more and more I look at it, it is starting to turn out that I might as well just pony up the cash for a SGSII.
at this point I don't care about an update, the only reason I would be interested would be to better my battery life on miui. Oh well I will my have my sgs2 next week.
Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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Got a text today from T-Mobile, today marks 1 year of being a loyal customer. What a joke!! SGSII, I think I'll wait a coupla monthes, see what else they got.
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Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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EXACTLY what I was going to say! T-mobile smacks us Vibrant users hard, denying us gingerbread when other carriers are providing it to their Galaxy S customers, and our response is ... to buy a new, more expensive phone from T-mobile?
Not me. I would feel way too much like a $ucker. I'm not buying another phone from T-mobile. I'll go international on the SGS II or I won't go at all. And when my contract is up I'll remember how T-mobile snubbed their Vibrant customers.
To be fair Verizon is just as bad. It seems that the American mobile market is terrible compared to the international market. Say what you want about apple but at least they told the carriers to go shove a stick up their asses.
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There's a link in the update to a Mini Kies for Mac. Is that new?
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T-Mobile spit in our face they should at least allow us to get drivers
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Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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i'm getting one for $300 new and if its not up to par, I will sell it and make a profit. I want a bigger screen, the phone is fast enough for anything I'll ever do. Also there will always be something better around the corner.
If a car manufacturer sold 2011 cars that got a certain mpg, and in 2012 they sell that same exact car but they tweaked the way the car's computer was programmed so it got a better gas mileage, would the car manufacturer offer to reprogram your car's computer for free? Nope. Customers would pay more money on gas for as long as they own that car. Funny how nobody complains about free car engine computer upgrades that are available to similar cars with identical engines and computers (when it hits them in the wallet!), but we cry because our cell phones aren't upgraded to an operating system that is only available on different phones with different processors.
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Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics.
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The Vibrant got one upgrade, from 2.1 to 2.2; if we are going to base our future expectations on the Vibrant's history, we should assume the SGSII will get one upgrade - probably to ICS.
Now back to your question: why get a SGSII? I think that for the most part people are first choosing T-Mobile, and second choosing the phones T-Mobile has to offer. For the most part the SGSII is 'better' than the Vibrant, that's why people are getting one. In a year there will be phones that are 'better' than the SGSII and people will buy those phones. That's why.
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To be fair Verizon is just as bad.
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ATT is bad too. Can anyone name an American carrier that is awesome at updating their phones? You can name some examples from a specific carrier, but that same carrier will have phones that they 'should have' upgraded but never did.
Guys, be patient and wait for Galaxy Nexus. You would never have to wait again )
CharlieBoy808 said:
Yup. It pissed me off too when I read it. I'm hoping that we can benefit from this update. The more and more I look at it, it is starting to turn out that I might as well just pony up the cash for a SGSII.
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Buying a SGS2 On T-Mobile would be the worst mistake you could ever make. Didn't you learn a lesson from the Vibrant fiasco?
HTC and Motorola have both made statements on ICS updates. Samsung USA has not said one thing about ICS update. SGS2 on T-mobile is different from all the other variants of SGS2. SGS2 on Vibrant internals are so different that it probably requires a bunch of unique drivers not common to the other SGS2 variants. Trust me don't but the SGS2. You will be lucky to get ICS and if you do it will probably come a year from now, by that time the next version of Android will be out and Samsung will have LONG FORGOTTEN SGS2 on T-Mobile. Don't make the same mistake TWICE.
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Why are you guys getting sgs2 when you can clearly see the lackluster costumer support from T-Mobile. You're going to be in the same situation in a couple of months with no ics. I hope your planning on getting the international version and not the T-Mobile version. Don't let your compulsion reward the T-Mobile execs who failed us. I don't know about you but with stable CM 7.1 eb streamline kernel and my added ffc I've got a phone that hasn't given any problems and given me all the features that I could want from any newer phone. Just my two cents, not meant to tell you what to do.
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Perfectly stated!
From a chat session with t-mobile support:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to ~Craig M.
Me: When will the Gingerbread update for the Vibrant be available?
~Craig M:* Welcome to T-Mobile live Chat. My name is Craig and I will be happy to assist you. For your reference my Rep ID is 1320828. Please give me a moment while I open your account.
Me:* Hi Craig. Thank you
Me:* I read this article today: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-1810
~Craig M:* I have read your question and will be more than happy to assist you with your request. For the protection of your account, may I have the last four digits of your social please?
Me:* ####
Me:* I would like to know when a Gingerbread update for the original Samsung Vibrant will be available.
~Craig M:* As per the article, the update will start being sent out effective November 15th, however this is for the Galaxy S 4G, which is newer than the Samsung Vibrant.
Me:* Right, I understand that.
Me:* Seeing as Vibrant owners already feel somewhat ripped off by the Galaxy S 4G, I was just wondering if the release of GB for the GS4G had led to any new information on the future release of GB for the Vibrant.
~Craig M:* Unfortunately, we do not have any information regarding an update for the Vibrant.
Me:* Lovely. Well if you could please pass along my interest to whoever you can I would greatly appreciate it. Getting awfully tired of picking up Android phones from t-mobile that never get the upgrades that were originally promised.
~Craig M:* I can certainly pass that along. Did you have any other questions that I can answer for you today?
Me:* No that's all. Thank you for your time.
if you want updates, get a Nexus.
Just that simple.
We were promised an update to Froyo. It took a bit of pressure to even have that released, but we got it. We were never promised an update to Gingerbread, so they have no obligation to give us one. And it makes no financial sense for them anyway, which is what it really comes down to. I'm not saying I like it, that's just the way it is. We will not be getting an update to Gingerbread.
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If a car manufacturer sold 2011 cars that got a certain mpg, and in 2012 they sell that same exact car but they tweaked the way the car's computer was programmed so it got a better gas mileage, would the car manufacturer offer to reprogram your car's computer for free? Nope. Customers would pay more money on gas for as long as they own that car. Funny how nobody complains about free car engine computer upgrades that are available to similar cars with identical engines and computers (when it hits them in the wallet!), but we cry because our cell phones aren't upgraded to an operating system that is only available on different phones with different processors.
The Vibrant got one upgrade, from 2.1 to 2.2; if we are going to base our future expectations on the Vibrant's history, we should assume the SGSII will get one upgrade - probably to ICS.
ATT is bad too. Can anyone name an American carrier that is awesome at updating their phones? You can name some examples from a specific carrier, but that same carrier will have phones that they 'should have' upgraded but never did.
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You are missing a big point here. Sure, nice car analogy, but what if you have a Toyota and they don't update your gas mileage, but Ford does update a similar model car? Would you still be just as likely to buy a Toyota next time?
That's what we have here. I have a Droid X and a Vibrant (and a Galaxy S 4G for that matter). The Droid X and Vibrant came out virtually within days of each other. I've had official GB on my Droid X for months now. Vibrant will never get GB. The Droid X also had Froyo months before the Vibrant. Both phones were released with Eclair.
So, when I'm getting my next phone, I'm certainly going to factor that in. I know Motorola/Verizon will be more apt to update my phone as compared to Samsung/TMobile (personally, I put more of the blame on Samsung than TMobile, but that's debatable).
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We were promised an update to Froyo. It took a bit of pressue to even have that released, but we got it. We were never promised an update to Gingerbread, so they have no obligation to give us one. And it makes no financial sense for them anyway, which is what it really comes down to.
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Not sure about that. Buy a Motorola/Verizon phone next time because you are more likely to get future updates and it does affect Samsung financially. I doubt that too many people will make that a big factor in their decision, but, over time, the bad reputation could start to have a deeper impact to Samsung's financials.
It all comes down to the finances. Motorola/Verizon bean counters calculated that the upgrade to GB made financial sense and Samsung/TMobile calculated that it didn't.
They're not giving us anymore updates. IMO this has been apparent for a long time. A $500 phone has pretty much become obsolete as far as TMob/Samsung are concerned. What I'm wondering is who's to blame? Did TMob drop the ball, or Samsung? Either way I'm leaving TMob, and won't be purchasing any more Samsung products. Screw 'em both. I will not spend hundreds on a new phone every year, which is exactly what they want.
Anyone interest in a Morotola, maybe take a glance and Motorola's Bootloader policy here http://blog.opticaldelusion.org/2010/08/clearly-you-have-no-idea-what-efuse-is.html and here http://www.droid-developers.org/wiki/Booting_chain.
Since XDA is abound with noobs and hackers, it should be known that the EFuse chip will not let you change your bootloader or run any type of FastBoot-OEM Unlock. Just letting you know it will trip the chip and brick instantly.
I came from a Motorola that was never scheduled to get a 2.2 update and we hacked it and created our own, but took some serious time and support, none of which came from Morotola or our carrier. In fact our carrier released their "official" version of 2.2 and when we broke it down, found our code in the libs, modules,...Since open source, what could we do?
Just an fyi to anyone that is wanting to move to a Motorola (albeit the Atrix boot unlock was leaked, but as far as I know, that is the only one in the whole Mfamily).